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Balin (Balin)
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Ian has stopped making mistakes when singing songs. What year is it?
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Balin, I'm compiling this list of my LTPF puzzles of all time, and there's already a couple of yours there. Why do I feel this one's going on it too?

Has Ian stopped making mistakes in the songs he is singing? If so, lyrics? Melody?

Or has he stopped making mistakes in some other area while he sings? If so, did he previously sing and make mistakes? Did he previously not sing and make mistakes?
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Balin, I'm compiling this list of my LTPF puzzles of all time, and there's already a couple of yours there. Why do I feel this one's going on it too? I'm flattered. But I do hope this is a good one.

Has Ian stopped making mistakes in the songs he is singing? Yes If so, lyrics? Melody? Irrel

Or has he stopped making mistakes in some other area while he sings? No If so, did he previously sing and make mistakes? Did he previously not sing and make mistakes?
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Is Ian a human adult male?

Has Ian stopped making mistakes because he's singing different songs, which he doesn't get wrong? Or has he started singing the same songs as before, error-free? Or has he stopped singing altogether, hence no mistakes?

Does Ian make money from singing?

Did Ian previously make mistakes on all songs, but now makes mistakes on none?

Has Ian had a medical operation that has influenced his ability to sing?
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Is Ian a human adult male? I see him as a child but he could very well be an adult. Assume H/C/M.

Has Ian stopped making mistakes because he's singing different songs, which he doesn't get wrong? Or has he started singing the same songs as before, error-free? This Or has he stopped singing altogether, hence no mistakes?

Does Ian make money from singing? Irrel, assume No

Did Ian previously make mistakes on all songs, but now makes mistakes on none? Assume Yes

Has Ian had a medical operation that has influenced his ability to sing? No
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Is Ian famous? Does Ian sing songs in public? Was anybody correcting his previous mistakes? Is Ian also playing an instrument?
Is mondegreen relevant?
Did the mistakes have something to do with Ian's pronunciation? Could Ian hear properly at the time he was making mistakes?
Was Ian aware of his mistakes?
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Is Ian famous? No, Ian is a figment of my imagination Does Ian sing songs in public? Yes Was anybody correcting his previous mistakes? Presumably Is Ian also playing an instrument? No
Is mondegreen relevant? No
Did the mistakes have something to do with Ian's pronunciation? Irrel Could Ian hear properly at the time he was making mistakes? Yes
Was Ian aware of his mistakes? Irrel, assume Yes
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Did Ian make mistakes deliberately?
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Did Ian make mistakes deliberately? No
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Did Ian sing songs that listeners recognized?
Does it matter who listened to him sing?
Was he singing incorrect notes?
Was he inserting incorrect lyrics?
Was he making normally recognizable songs unrecognizable?

Is the song genre relevant? Song titles?
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Did Ian sing songs that listeners recognized? Yes
Does it matter who listened to him sing? Only in determining the genre
Was he singing incorrect notes? Was he inserting incorrect lyrics? Either of these work; exactly what his mistakes were is irrel
Was he making normally recognizable songs unrecognizable? Probably not

Is the song genre relevant? Very Song titles? Not really
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Did the rules concerning this genre change so that Ian sang it exactly the same as before but these were not mistakes anymore?
Did the listeners make the same mistakes as Ian?
Are mistakes typical for the genre?
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Are the listeners mostly male? Female? A mix?
Are the listeners teenagers? Children? Young adults? Older adults? A mix?
Do the listeners have anything in common besides liking the music genre? Or do they even like it? Are they forced to listen to it even though they don't like it?
Are the listeners in fact human?
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Did the rules concerning this genre change so that Ian sang it exactly the same as before but these were not mistakes anymore? No
Did the listeners make the same mistakes as Ian? No
Are mistakes typical for the genre? I'd say No

Are the listeners mostly male? Female? A mix? Mix
Are the listeners teenagers? Children? Young adults? Older adults? A mix? Mix
Do the listeners have anything in common besides liking the music genre? Yes Or do they even like it? Irrel, assume Yes Are they forced to listen to it even though they don't like it?
Are the listeners in fact human? Yes
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Does he use a lyrics sheet now? And the year is whenever the printing press was invented?
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Does he use a lyrics sheet now? Irrel - remember, exactly what his mistakes are is irrelevant And the year is whenever the printing press was invented? No
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Did Ian stop making mistakes only as a result of growing up? Did Ian become a professional singer? Was he threatened with relevant consequences if he continued singing with mistakes?
Did Ian have an opportunity to hear a record of himself singing?
Did Ian make mistakes as a result of external condition that changed? Did the listeners expect the mistakes?
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Did Ian stop making mistakes only as a result of growing up? Did Ian become a professional singer? Was he threatened with relevant consequences if he continued singing with mistakes?
Did Ian have an opportunity to hear a record of himself singing?
Did Ian make mistakes as a result of external condition that changed? Did the listeners expect the mistakes?
All irrel
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Do the listeners listen Ian live? From a record?
Did Ian stop making mistakes on a certain date (day, month and year)? Are day and month relevant? Did Ian stop making mistakes willingly?
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Do the listeners listen Ian live? Yes From a record?
Did Ian stop making mistakes on a certain date (day, month and year)? OTWT Are day and month relevant? Month yes, day no Did Ian stop making mistakes willingly? Irrel
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By 'genre' are we talking about a musical style such as rock, pop, classical, celtic etc.

Or a lyrical style such as love, protest, political etc.?

Count 'punk' as a musical style for the purposes of this question
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By 'genre' are we talking about a musical style such as rock, pop, classical, celtic etc. More "musical" but "lyrical" applies too.

Or a lyrical style such as love, protest, political etc.?

Count 'punk' as a musical style for the purposes of this question
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Just to check:
- if the only mistake that Ian had been making was that he was singing the song too slowly, then this mistake would have stopped happening from a certain month of a certain year?
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Just to check:
- if the only mistake that Ian had been making was that he was singing the song too slowly, then this mistake would have stopped happening from a certain month of a certain year? No. The MONTH is relevant to the genre. The YEAR is what you have to figure out.
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Is it music for a certain holiday? Christmas? Halloween? Patriotic music for the 4th of July?
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If the only mistake that Ian had been making was that he was singing the song too slowly, then this mistake would have stopped happening during a certain year?
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Is it music for a certain holiday? Christmas? This Halloween? Patriotic music for the 4th of July?
If the only mistake that Ian had been making was that he was singing the song too slowly, then this mistake would have stopped happening during a certain year? No and OTWT

You now have all the information you need to figure out the year. Remember, if your mother didn't want you to play with your food, she never would have told you to eat your words.
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Is he a Christmas caroler?
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Is he a Christmas caroler? Yes
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Still really confused, so apologies for stupid questions :-S

Ian used to make mistakes when singing?

He no longer makes the mistakes due to some as-yet-unknown reason?

This reason is somehow related to the year that the mistakes stopped?

If all Ian was doing wrong was singing the songs too slowly, then this mistake would have been corrected by this as-yet-unknown reason?

*looks baffled*

Oh... is the answer "2013"?
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Still really confused, so apologies for stupid questions :-S

Ian used to make mistakes when singing? Yes

He no longer makes the mistakes due to some as-yet-unknown and irrelevant reason? This reason is somehow related to the year that the mistakes stopped? No If all Ian was doing wrong was singing the songs too slowly, then this mistake would have been corrected by this as-yet-unknown reason? No

The reason for Ian's no longer making mistakes is IRRELEVANT to determining the year. All you need to know is that he used to make mistakes while singing carols, and now he doesn't.


*looks baffled*

Oh... is the answer "2013"? No, but I was expecting someone to guess that for a week now...

Again, if your mother didn't want you to play with your food, she never would have told you to eat your words.
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Is the answer a number of a year? Or a description of a year (for example, leap year)?
And I guess Ian's age in that year is not relevant...
As Christmas carols are relevant, the relevant year must be A.D., correct?
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Is the answer a number of a year? This Or a description of a year But this will be VERY helpful (for example, leap year)? Not along these lines
And I guess Ian's age in that year is not relevant... Correct
As Christmas carols are relevant, the relevant year must be A.D., correct? Correct
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Did everyone singing Christmas carols make mistakes before the relevant year? Is particular carol relevant?
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Did everyone singing Christmas carols make mistakes before the relevant year? No Is particular carol relevant? No

HINT: The italicized sentence a couple posts up is a clue to what TYPE of puzzle this is...
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I got that it's a kind of wordplay, and as I'm totally bad at these, I try to figure out the solution other way...

If the boy's name was different, would the year be the same?
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I got that it's a kind of wordplay, and as I'm totally bad at these, I try to figure out the solution other way... Yes it is a wordplay puzzle.

If the boy's name was different, would the year be the same? The boy's name CANNOT be different!
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Ok, if it's not 2013, is it 0 AD?
(or 7 BC, or whatever the current estimated year of Jesus's birth is)
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Ok, if it's not 2013, is it 0 AD? (or 7 BC, or whatever the current estimated year of Jesus's birth is) No - and the year 0 AD doesn't actually exist
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"Ian has stopped making mistakes when singing songs. What year is it?"

If I rephrased that as:

"In what year did Ian stop making mistakes when singing songs?"

would it still work as the same puzzle?
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"Ian has stopped making mistakes when singing songs. What year is it?"

If I rephrased that as:

"In what year did Ian stop making mistakes when singing songs?"

would it still work as the same puzzle? I think so, but remember, this is about wordplay.
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Relevant what Christmas carols he sings? Did he sing the same ones when he made mistakes and now? If so:

"Jingle Bells"
"Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer"
"Santa Claus is Coming to Town"
"It's Beginning to look a Lot like Christmas"
"12 Days of Christmas"
"Italian 12 Days of Christmas"
"37 Days of Christmas" from The Simpsons
"Snowy the Frostman"
"We Wish You a Merry Christmas"
"We Three Kings"
"The First Noel"
"Good King Wensinclass"
"Joy to the World"
"White Christmas"
"Let it Snow"
"Holy Night"
"Silent Night"
"What Child is This"
"Winter Wonderland"
"Santa Baby"

Something I missed?
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Relevant what Christmas carols he sings? No Did he sing the same ones when he made mistakes and now? Presumably, irrel
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Are Roman numerals relevant? Ian would stand for I, Mistakes for M, Christmas possibly for X, and Carols for C...
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Are Roman numerals relevant? Ian would stand for I, Mistakes for M, Christmas possibly for X, and Carols for C... No, but a clever thought.
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Still baffled :-S It is relevant that he's singing Christmas carols, yet it is irrelevant which ones he sings, what mistakes he makes, and how those mistakes are corrected. But it's relevant that he's called Ian... ... ...


Did Ian previously make mistakes in the years prior to the year that is the answer to this puzzle?

And Ian does not make mistakes now it is the year that is the answer to the puzzle?

[ie if the answer to the puzzle was 1984, then he made mistakes up until 1983, and stopped making mistakes from 1984 onwards?]



Would Ian still have made the mistakes, and still have ceased those mistakes this year, if he had instead been singing:
- Advent hymns - which would also traditionally only be sung in December?
- Christmas pop songs?
- Christmas carols in the middle of July?



So Ian could have been singing "Hark the Herald Angels Sing" too slowly? (Irrelevant if he is, but he could be?)

And if so, he would have stopped this mistake due to some irrelevant reason? So let's say for example it could be because his Mum had promised him extra chocolate cake for singing better, so he tried harder? (again, irrelevant, but it could be?)

But... the bit I don't get... if he stopped making the mistake due to that reason, that reason wouldn't have corrected the mistakes? So if he stopped singing "Hark the Herald Angels Sing" too slowly because his Mum promised him chocolate cake, then the promise of chocolate cake would not have stopped him singing too slowly?



If the mistake had been singing too slowly (again, irrelevant, but if it had been), then he now sings them at the right speed?


*head hurts*

(And I know it's a word puzzle, but clearly it involves more than just the words in the puzzle question, so I'm still confused! :-()
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Relevant that -ian is a suffix meaning 'possessing this quality or subscribing to this'?

Specifically, Christ-ian?
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Still baffled :-S It is relevant that he's singing Christmas carols, yet it is irrelevant which ones he sings, what mistakes he makes, and how those mistakes are corrected. But it's relevant that he's called Ian... ... ... Yep.

Did Ian previously make mistakes in the years prior to the year that is the answer to this puzzle? Irrel

And Ian does not make mistakes now it is the year that is the answer to the puzzle? Also irrel

[ie if the answer to the puzzle was 1984, then he made mistakes up until 1983, and stopped making mistakes from 1984 onwards?]

Would Ian still have made the mistakes, and still have ceased those mistakes this year, if he had instead been singing:
- Advent hymns - which would also traditionally only be sung in December?
- Christmas pop songs?
- Christmas carols in the middle of July? This is possible, but not the others. The songs must be Christmas carols.

So Ian could have been singing "Hark the Herald Angels Sing" too slowly? (Irrelevant if he is, but he could be?) Yes, he could have been.

And if so, he would have stopped this mistake due to some irrelevant reason? So let's say for example it could be because his Mum had promised him extra chocolate cake for singing better, so he tried harder? (again, irrelevant, but it could be?) Sure, why not.

But... the bit I don't get... if he stopped making the mistake due to that reason, that reason wouldn't have corrected the mistakes? So if he stopped singing "Hark the Herald Angels Sing" too slowly because his Mum promised him chocolate cake, then the promise of chocolate cake would not have stopped him singing too slowly? Um, that may have been me causing unintentional confusion. My bad. It's irrelevant either way.

If the mistake had been singing too slowly (again, irrelevant, but if it had been), then he now sings them at the right speed? Yes, he no longer makes that mistake.

*head hurts*

(And I know it's a word puzzle, but clearly it involves more than just the words in the puzzle question, so I'm still confused! :-() It involves either those words or synonyms of them.
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Posted on Friday, November 08, 2013 - 9:39 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If we rewrote the puzzle sentence: "Ian sings Christmas Carols properly now" would we get the same year? Would it be impossible to get any year?
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Posted on Friday, November 08, 2013 - 2:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If we rewrote the puzzle sentence: "Ian sings Christmas Carols properly now" would we get the same year? Presumably - the "mistake" part is relevant though Would it be impossible to get any year? It is only possible to get one year.
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Posted on Saturday, November 09, 2013 - 5:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the Solution along the lines "end of Carolingian era"?
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Is the Solution along the lines "end of Carolingian era"? Well that was a nice little jump. Leap-of-the-year candidate?

****SPOILER****

Ian has stopped making mistakes when singing songs.

The songs are Christmas carols
Mistakes = errors
Stopped = end

So this is the "end of the caroling Ian error" - or the "end of the Carolingian era", which is AD 987.

Nice leap, Sleepingbeaver, and nice work everyone else.
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Posted on Sunday, November 10, 2013 - 7:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The leap may not seem quite so inexplicable if you had condescended to answer my question from Thursday, November 07, 2013 - 10:04 pm, but it was a clever bit of thinking nonetheless.
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Posted on Sunday, November 10, 2013 - 10:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I never actually saw that question - my bad.
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Looking back, that statement seemed unnecessarily harsh. Bad Monday morning pre-coffee Wizardofnz. No hard feelings are harboured.
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No hard feelings are felt.
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oops...I've overlooked that question too =)

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