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Wizardofnz (Wizardofnz)
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Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 2:16 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A man is preparing to sell a large part of his CD collection. He packs the discs in a box to take to the local charity store, but deliberately keeps one CD he now absolutely despises for himself. Why?
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Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 4:02 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Relevant why he doesn't like it anymore? Relevant how he got it? Relevant exactly what CD it is? Does he intend to do something with it? Give it to someone? Is something other relevant about the CD other than the sound stored on it? Is it in any way different from most CDs?
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Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 12:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

He used to like the CD, yes? Is it valuable? autographed by the artist? He's not the artist himself is he?

Was it given to him as a gift? even though he hates it does it have sentimental value for him?

Does he use the CD for some other purpose?

Has he committed a crime? Would the CD incriminate him? or alternatively prove his innocence should he ever be charged with something?
Wizardofnz (Wizardofnz)
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Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 7:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Jondahr:

Relevant why he doesn't like it anymore? no Relevant how he got it? no Relevant exactly what CD it is? no Does he intend to do something with it? yes Give it to someone? no Is something other relevant about the CD other than the sound stored on it? no Is it in any way different from most CDs? no

Peter365:

He used to like the CD, yes? yes Is it valuable? no autographed by the artist? irrelevant He's not the artist himself is he? no

Was it given to him as a gift? irrelevant even though he hates it does it have sentimental value for him? no

Does he use the CD for some other purpose? than listening to? no

Has he committed a crime? no Would the CD incriminate him? no or alternatively prove his innocence should he ever be charged with something? no
Jondahr (Jondahr)
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Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 7:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it a music CD? If so, relevant what genre? If yes: rock? pop? classical? alternative? indie? hip-hop? metal? folk? soundtrack?

Does he only intend to listen to the CD himself? Or play it for someone else?
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Is it a music CD? yes If so, relevant what genre? If yes: rock? pop? classical? alternative? indie? hip-hop? metal? folk? soundtrack? irrelevant: let's say for the sake of the puzzle that it's Nana Mouskouri

Does he only intend to listen to the CD himself? yes or play it for someone else? no
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Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 8:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is there some part of the music on the CD he needs to hear again? Lyrics? Or the music itself?

Does it help him with something?
Like, does it help him sleep?
Or keep him away?
Or make him angry so he can let off some steam?
Or make him cry?
Or something like this at all? Or is this entirely OTWT?
Wizardofnz (Wizardofnz)
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Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 8:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is there some part of the music on the CD he needs to hear again? no Lyrics? Or the music itself? n/a to both

Does it help him with something? yes
Like, does it help him sleep? no
Or keep him away? from...?
Or make him angry yes so he can let off some steam? no
Or make him cry? no
Or something like this at all? worth exploring Or is this entirely OTWT? not at all
Lynne (Lynne)
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Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 8:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does listening to something he despises help him concentrate on his work?
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Does listening to something he despises help him concentrate on his work? no
Lynne (Lynne)
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Does he want to prove a point? Will anybody overhear it being played? If so, is that relevant?
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Does he want to prove a point? no Will anybody overhear it being played? only him If so, is that relevant? it's relevant that he will
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Is his profession relevant? Or hobbies?
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Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 8:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is this a form of discipline for himself? Self motivation for something?
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Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 8:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Jondahr:

Is his profession relevant? no Or hobbies? no

Lynne:

Is this a form of discipline for himself? yes, with a soupcon of ish Self motivation for something? yes, with another soupcon of ish
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Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 8:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does he force himself to listen for some reason? Will it improve his perseverance with something else? 'If I can listen to Nana Mouskouri, I can do xyz'?
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Does he force himself to listen for some reason? yes! Will it improve his perseverance with something else? 'If I can listen to Nana Mouskouri, I can do xyz'? no
Lynne (Lynne)
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Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 8:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is there anyone else involved in the reasoning? A girl who has a similar taste in music and if you can get used to NM then you can tolerate her choice?
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Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 8:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Oh, I'm sorry, I've turned 'him' into 'you'!
Wizardofnz (Wizardofnz)
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Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 8:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is there anyone else involved in the reasoning? no A girl who has a similar taste in music and if you can get used to NM then you can tolerate her choice? no

Oh, I'm sorry, I've turned 'him' into 'you'! Hehe! He could quite plausibly be 'me' - I don't disagree with his logic
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Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 8:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does he play it so he can tolerate other canned music he's subjected to in public places?
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Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 8:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

How often does he play it per day? Once, twice, several times? On permanent repeat?
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Does he play it so he can tolerate other canned music he's subjected to in public places? no

How often does he play it per day? Once this - literally per day , twice, several times? On permanent repeat? no to rest

Good question
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Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 8:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is this a spiritual thing? Does he get annoyed when he listens to it? Peaceful? Learning to be neutral about it?
How long will he continue playing it once a day? Week/s, month/s?
Is it a forfeit he has to do from a game he once played? Or a dare?
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Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 8:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is this a spiritual thing? no Does he get annoyed when he listens to it? very Peaceful? Learning to be neutral about it? no to rest
How long will he continue playing it once a day? Week/s, month/s? potentially indefinitely
Is it a forfeit he has to do from a game he once played? Or a dare? no to both
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Is this entirely self imposed? Is he working on anger management?
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Is this entirely self imposed? yes Is he working on anger management? no
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Does anybody else know about this?
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Does anybody else know about this? no
Lynne (Lynne)
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Will he ever change to another singer that he doesn't like?
Does he play records that he does like in the same session?
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Will he ever change to another singer that he doesn't like? he could theoretically achieve the same effect with another singer, but there would be no point in changing
Does he play records that he does like in the same session? no!
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Does he do anything at the time apart from sitting and listening? Is he in a special place, or just at home?
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Does he do anything at the time apart from sitting FA and listening? yes, he does perform a relevant action every time this occurs Is he in a special place, or just at home? at home
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Is he in a difficult position? Like standing on his head? In the bath or shower?
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Is he in a difficult position? no, quite at ease Like standing on his head? In the bath or shower? no to both
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Does he use it as an alarm to get him out of bed in the morning and as far away from it as possible?
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Does he use it as an alarm to get him out of bed in the morning and as far away from it as possible? YES!

***** SPOILER *****

He plays the detested disc in his CD alarm clock every morning. While the white noise of the alarm may wake him, the angry adrenaline he produces from hearing his least favourite artist breaking his sleep ensures he's wide awake when he needs to be


Well done, Lynne - this is the closest I've come to answering questions in real time, and it's rather exciting.
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Thanks, Wiz! It's always fun to play in real time, but it's a matter of catching people at the right time. Good puzzle.
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Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 9:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

...but what a terrible way to start the day!
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Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 9:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Think of it this way: It can only get better!
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Many of the people who design vihslems must agree with this guy's logic. I agree with Balin's assessment that most are annoying, and am thankful that radio/CD/MP3 alarm clocks exist for those who prefer less of a rude awakening.

(If you don't get what I'm talking about, check the neologism dictionary)

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