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A woman was born into a poor and uninfluential family in 1957. She lived a fairly busy but unremarkable life, never living more than 50 miles from the small town in which she was born.
Her husband was born in 1940. Despite concern from their respective families about their age difference, they married in 1977. Although they tried, they were unable to conceive children, a cause of much grief for her.
Her husband died in 2005, having stood beside her and supported her in everything she did, modest as her achievements were.
She won an extremely prestigious award 6 times. He never won it once. Why not?
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I'm presuming this is a real life story?
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Is the age gap relevant to the spioler? Was he too old to win it? Is their childlessness relevant? Was the aware anything to do with children?
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Award no aware.
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I'm presuming this is a real life story? It's actually a FMOI, but it's been tested and peer-reviewed to ensure that it actually could have happened

Is the age gap relevant to the spioler? yes Was he too old to win it? on at least one occasion, yes Is their childlessness relevant? indirectly and somewhat vaguely Was the aware anything to do with children? as in, having them? no
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I was thinking more about humanitarian work with children.
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I was thinking more about humanitarian work with children. Oh, I see. The awards are also not about this.
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Did she win awards for work? The same work as her husband did? Did they work together?
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Did she win awards for work? at least one The same work as her husband did? no Did they work together? no
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Was it the same award each time she won it, or different ones? Nobel peace, literature, philosophy etc?
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Was it the same award each time she won it, or different ones? it was the same award Nobel peace, literature, philosophy etc? I see - there are no sub-categories to this award
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Did she win awards for work? at least one

Were some of the awards for something other than 'work'?
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Were some of the awards for something other than 'work'? yes
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Is it relevant when she died/if she is still alive? If she is not, did she win the awards during her lifetime? Was she aware of having won them? Did she deliberately work to win them?

World records relevant? Was the award related to science? The media? Her profession? Did she win it for her achievements?

Is it relevant where she lived?
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Did she invent something? Create something? Was she an artist? Scientist?
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Is it relevant when she died/if she is still alive? She could either still be alive or have died within the last year or so If she is not, did she win the awards during her lifetime? yes Was she aware of having won them? yes Did she deliberately work to win them? no

World records relevant? no Was the award related to science? in at least one case The media? in at least one case Her profession? in at least one case Did she win it for her achievements? such as they were, in at least one case

Is it relevant where she lived? yes
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Did she invent something? no Create something? no Was she an artist? no Scientist? no
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Did she live in New Zealand? Anything to do with farming?
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Did she live in New Zealand? no Anything to do with farming? no
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OK - Americas, Europe, Australasia, Antarctica, Arctic, Asia, Africa?
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OK - Americas, this Europe, Australasia, Antarctica, Arctic, Asia, Africa?
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Could a man have won the award that she won? Is there a specific age after which one cannot win it? Is there a specific lower age limit to winning it? Is the prize connected to literature?
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Could a man have won the award that she won? at least one award could not have been won by a man Is there a specific age after which one cannot win it? at least one award could not have been won after a specific age Is there a specific lower age limit to winning it? no Is the prize connected to literature? no - or perhaps one of them, in a probably unhelpfully vague sense
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Are the specific years in the prompt relevant? Could we move them all forward ten years, and have the puzzle work? Back ten years? Forward or back one year?

Americas: North America? USA? Is the specific location within the country relevant? The specific city? State/Province?
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Is the award given out at set time intervals? Every year? Is there a prize associated with the award? Is winning the award a positive thing? Did she win one of the awards about a year ago?
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Are the specific years in the prompt relevant? yes Could we move them all forward ten years, and have the puzzle work? no - the number of awards would change for both, although she would still outnumber him greatly Back ten years? as above Forward or back one year? as above

Americas: North America? USA? yes to both Is the specific location within the country relevant? at a generic level, yes The specific city? State/Province? no to both
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Is the award given out at set time intervals? yes Every year? yes Is there a prize associated with the award? outside of official recognition, I don't believe so Is winning the award a positive thing? yes Did she win one of the awards about a year ago? yes
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Are the prizes she's receiving an actual prize that exists? Either way, is it extraordinary for one person to win the award that many times?

Generic location: Does she live in a rural area? An urban area? Suburbia? Relevant? Or is the specific region more relevant? If so, does she live in the Northeast? Midwest? The South? The Southwest? The West?
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Does one person receive the award each year? A group? Does the award have different criteria for eligibility every year? Or is it more that the things she did to win the awards had certain criteria?
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Does one person receive the award each year? sometimes A group? sometimes Does the award have different criteria for eligibility every year? no Or is it more that the things she did to win the awards had certain criteria? yes

Good questions
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Sorry, Missed AlexanderHamilton's questions

Are the prizes she's receiving an actual prize that exists? yes Either way, is it extraordinary for one person to win the award that many times? it's highly unusual, and often involves an extraordinary life

Generic location: Does she live in a rural area? yes An urban area? Suburbia? Relevant? not terribly Or is the specific region more relevant? this If so, does she live in the Northeast? unlikely Midwest? most likely The South? unlikely The Southwest? highly unlikely The West? possibly
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If a group one the award, would they be a cohesive group who did something together? Or would it be possible for more than one unconnected person to win the award?

Is farming relevant? Is the prize well known to most people? Is it prestigious only within a particular field?
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Or rather, won the award...homophone issues
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If a group one the award, would they be a cohesive group who did something together? often Or would it be possible for more than one unconnected person to win the award? <>b>yes</b>

Is farming relevant? no Is the prize well known to most people? yes - at least in the developed world, and more likely in the western hemisphere Is it prestigious only within a particular field? no

Or rather, won the award...homophone issues homophonebia will not be tolerated
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Was the award one of beating a world record?
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Was she ever the youngest or oldest person to do a particular something?
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Is the spacing between the years she won the award relevant? Has she ever won the award in consecutive years?

Did she ever win an award after her husbands death? Is it relevant that there are roughly six years between today and the year her husband died? Did she win ALL of her awards after her husband's death?
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Was the award one of beating a world record? no
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Lynne:

Was she ever the youngest or oldest person to do a particular something? no

Alexanderhamilton:

Is the spacing between the years she won the award relevant? there isn't a relevant pattern Has she ever won the award in consecutive years? no

Did she ever win an award after her husbands death? yes, at least one Is it relevant that there are roughly six years between today and the year her husband died? no, again looking at it from a 'pattern' perspective Did she win ALL of her awards after her husband's death? no
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Was the woman awarded the awards for her own achievements? As a representative of an entity? Is woman's nationality relevant? Was she awarded the awards for what she had done within her professional capacity? Is her religion relevant?
Is it relevant how the award givers learned of her achievements?
Did she run awareness campaigns?
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You state that these people dwell in the land of Figment (of your imagination). Is the award also a figment, or is it a part of the real world? Could I possibly have won it? Is it an award that is still being 'given'?
Is the award something concrete e.g. a statuette? certificate? cash even? or is it just 'a record'?
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Redwine:

Was the woman awarded the awards for her own achievements? in at least one case As a representative of an entity? as part of an entity, in at least one case Is woman's nationality relevant? yes, in at least one case Was she awarded the awards for what she had done within her professional capacity? yes, in at least one case Is her religion relevant? no
Is it relevant how the award givers learned of her achievements? no
Did she run awareness campaigns? at least one of her awards is related to an awareness campaign of sorts

Solo1:

You state that these people dwell in the land of Figment (of your imagination). True, but there are a number of people in the world meeting her circumstances, or close enough to. She lived a fairly unextraordinary life, after all Is the award also a figment, or is it a part of the real world? No, it's very real Could I possibly have won it? yes Is it an award that is still being 'given'? yes
Is the award something concrete e.g. a statuette? certificate? cash even? or is it just 'a record'? this - although the recipient is entitled to something
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Were all awards given to her by the same people? Were they 6 different awards? Or 6 times the same award, but honoring her different achievements?
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Were all awards given to her by the same people? yes Were they 6 different awards? no Or 6 times the same award, but honoring her different achievements? yes
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Were they normal awards, like Nobel, Pulitzer, Oscar etc? Or just sort of recognition? First positions on a type of list?
Was she a protagonist of six lateral puzzles?
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Were they normal awards, like Nobel, Pulitzer, Oscar etc? yes Or just sort of recognition? no First positions on a type of list? no
Was she a protagonist of six lateral puzzles? Haha! Only this one... so far.
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There is actually a guy who appears in 6 or so published lateral thinking puzzles... Edward J. Harshman has a section in one of his books dedicated to 'Brian Braggart', teller of tall tales. It's a series of 6 Encyclopaedia-Brown style puzzles where a compulsive liar is convicted due to a counterfactual clue. Not really what I like to see in a lateral puzzle, but to each their own.
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Is the relevant award given every year? Once a year? Is there only one award given on each occassion?
Was she awarded for some material products of her activities (like books, photos)?
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Is the relevant award given every year? yes Once a year? yes Is there only one award given on each occassion? Yes - but as established, it sometimes goes to multiple people
Was she awarded for some material products of her activities (like books, photos)? no
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Is it relevant who gives the puzzle? If yes, is it government? NGO? an international entity? children? journalists? scientists? academics?
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Is it relevant who gives the puzzle? Do you mean the award? I give the puzzle :P If yes, is it government? NGO? yes an international entity? yes children? journalists? and yes scientists? academics?
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If I won the award, would I want to brag about it? Would I be a little bit ashamed of it? Or just neutral about it?
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If I won the award, would I want to brag about it? Possibly Would I be a little bit ashamed of it? no Or just neutral about it? possibly
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"Is it relevant who gives the puzzle?" - sorry, too little sleep & coffee for me, no offense intended :P

If the woman had children, would this make her incapable of getting the award? Would it just mean she would have no time for the activities she was awarded for? Did she adopt children?
Was the award just being appointed/elected on a position?
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Are children relevant in any way? Had either of them been married before? Did either have children by a previous marriage?
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Redwine:

"Is it relevant who gives the puzzle?" - sorry, too little sleep & coffee for me, no offense intended :P We are truly kindred spirits. I try not to let my cups of coffee:hours of sleep ratio exceed 1.

If the woman had children, would this make her incapable of getting the award? It would make her highly unlikely to qualify for at least one of them Would it just mean she would have no time for the activities she was awarded for? yes Did she adopt children? no
Was the award just being appointed/elected on a position? no

Solo1:

Are children relevant in any way? not terribly; as established, they would get in the way of at least one of the awards Had either of them been married before? no/irrel Did either have children by a previous marriage? no
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If you were to tell me the award she won, would I most likely have heard of it?

So she most likely lives in the Midwest, or possibly the West. Do most or all recipients of the award come from these areas? Did she win the award for activities that are most common to these areas? Is it highly unlikely she'd live in the Southwest because the climate makes some aspect of this puzzle impossible?
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If you were to tell me the award she won, would I most likely have heard of it? yes

So she most likely lives in the Midwest, or possibly the West. Do most or all recipients of the award come from these areas? Recipients of this award come from all over the world, but one instance of her winning the award was shared with midwesterners Did she win the award for activities that are most common to these areas? no Is it highly unlikely she'd live in the Southwest because the climate makes some aspect of this puzzle impossible? no
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I see she won in 1969, then?

If so, I bow out, and great puzzle. ;)
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Yes. Well done, sir.
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If the woman was born one year later, could she still have won the award 6 times? Would she have won less awards? Would she not win any of them?
Same questions please if she was born one year earlier.
Are there any rules concerning giving this award to the same person? Was the woman able to win the award again?
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Was one of the awards at a beauty pageant?
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Redwine:

If the woman was born one year later, could she still have won the award 6 times? She would have missed out on one; although there are those that would argue that she would still qualify for it Would she have won less awards? one fewer Would she not win any of them? no, she would win the other 5
Same questions please if she was born one year earlier. she would qualify for all of them... just.
Are there any rules concerning giving this award to the same person? no Was the woman able to win the award again? Yes, theoretically she could continue to win the award until she died.

Lynne:

Was one of the awards at a beauty pageant? no
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Are subsequent awards connected with her different stages of life, like one award when she was a child, one - not married adult etc?
Is the award just a title? Is the award a medal?
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Are subsequent awards connected with her different stages of life, like one award when she was a child, one - not married adult etc? at least one of the awards is connected with her stage of life
Is the award just a title? Not an honorific such as 'Lady Redwine of Przedmieście Szczebrzeszyńskie, but the title of being that year's recipient of that award Is the award a medal? no
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Did she actively compete for awards? Was her achievements passive (like, being portrayed on the remarkable photo)? Was she ecological activist? Activist for children or human rights?
Is the award connected with specific field of activity (like: ecology)?
Was she a part of relevant international organization?
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Did she actively compete for awards? no Was her achievements passive (like, being portrayed on the remarkable photo)? the majority were Was she ecological activist? yesish Activist for children or human rights? more this, although few people in the world knew what her name was
Is the award connected with specific field of activity (like: ecology)? no
Was she a part of relevant international organization? in at least one case, yes. in another case, she was part of what could be more accurately described as a movement
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Is National Geographic relevant to this puzzle? Is World Press Photo relevant to this puzzle?
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Is National Geographic relevant to this puzzle? Is World Press Photo relevant to this puzzle? no to both
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Is the award-winner chosen by a jury? Elected in voting? If the latter, are the people voting journalists? Former recipients of the award? Members of the relevant NGO? ordinary people?
Are there, in the first stage, several nominees chosen for the award and in the next stage the winner is appointed? If yes, are the nominees appointed by governments? By press agencies?
You said that the situation is a figment of your imagination - does it refer to the award? The woman? The situation of six-time winner?
Did anybody get this award more than once?
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Is the award-winner chosen by a jury? a panel Elected in voting? no If the latter, are the people voting journalists? Former recipients of the award? Members of the relevant NGO? ordinary people? <b>n/a to all>b?
Are there, in the first stage, several nominees chosen for the award and in the next stage the winner is appointed? yes, but it's all done by the same panel - they reveal the runners-up after the award is issued If yes, are the nominees appointed by governments? By press agencies? n/a
You said that the situation is a figment of your imagination - does it refer to the award? no, the awards she won were the specific 6 awards meted out in the 6 specific years she won them for the 6 specific reasons The woman? yes, she's fictional, although her circumstances are not extraordinary at all The situation of six-time winner? as above
Did anybody get this award more than once? yes
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Is it a music award? A movie award?
The reasons:
1. For something related to her work
2. For someone related to her nationality
3. For being part of a movement
4. As a member of an organization, for activities of this organization
5. missing
6. missing
Correct?
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Is it a music award? A movie award? no to both
The reasons:
1. For something related to her work yes
2. For someone related to her nationality yes
3. For being part of a movement yes
4. As a member of an organization, for activities of this organization this is tied to both or either #1 or #3, depending on your view. It's not a separate award
5. missing
6. missing
Correct? it is now
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As AlexanderHamilton said, she won in 1969, as a twelve-years old girl. Was that the first award? Was it the one connected with nationality?
Was the woman a paid employee of an organization? Did she have a relevant position in the organization?
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Did she win a national spelling bee in 1969?
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When you say "He never won it once" - he = her husband, correct?
And does this mean "He didn't win it ever" or "He didn't win it one time, though he did on other occasions"?
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Redwine:

As AlexanderHamilton said, she won in 1969, as a twelve-years old girl. Was that the first award? yes Was it the one connected with nationality? no
Was the woman a paid employee of an organization? yes Did she have a relevant position in the organization? yes - but one she shared with thousands of others

Lynne:

Did she win a national spelling bee in 1969? n-o

Plebeian:

When you say "He never won it once" - he = her husband, correct? correct
And does this mean "He didn't win it ever" correct or "He didn't win it one time, though he did on other occasions"? incorrect
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A lot of your answers refer to "At least one" award being different from the rest - does this imply that one particular award was a "special" what was quite different from the others?
Or were all of the awards quite different, so that for most questions asked, at least one would be outside of a given yes/no answer?
(Hope that makes sense...)
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A lot of your answers refer to "At least one" award being different from the rest - does this imply that one particular award was a "special" what was quite different from the others? no
Or were all of the awards quite different, so that for most questions asked, at least one would be outside of a given yes/no answer? yes, this is the correct interpretation - bearing in mind that it was the same award
(Hope that makes sense...)
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The woman was born into a poor and uninfluential family...
...was her husband?

She lived a busy but unremarkable life...
...did her husband?

Would her husband have won more awards if she had not been married to him? Or if she had not existed at all?
If someone else had married the husband instead, would that someone else have won any of the six awards? Or would she still have won all six regardless of her marital status?
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The woman was born into a poor and uninfluential family...
...was her husband? irrel

She lived a busy but unremarkable life...
...did her husband? irrel, but he probably didn't live an incredibly remarkable one

Would her husband have won more awards if she had not been married to him? no Or if she had not existed at all? no
If someone else had married the husband instead, would that someone else have won any of the six awards? not necessarily Or would she still have won all six regardless of her marital status? are we talking about the woman in the puzzle statement or her husband's hypothetical other wife? Either way, the husband would not have influenced the number of awards
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Is the award something along the lines of Sakharov Prize?
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Is the award something along the lines of Sakharov Prize? It's certainly more well-known, and typically won by higher-profile people. However, there are some similarities with the selection criteria in some years
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Erm, you said the woman was fictional, correct?
Were these awards made in a fictional world?
Or were the awards made in this world to a fictional character?
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You said her family was 'poor and uninfluential." Would she have won these awards if she had been from a rich and influential family? Would she have won them more often if that were the case?
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Plebeian:

Erm, you said the woman was fictional, correct? She's fictional in the same sense that the 'unknown soldier' is a fictional person. Anyone born under her circumstances would have won most of these awards, and there were many. Some of the awards are based on her life choices, but these choices were, again, made by a number of people
Were these awards made in a fictional world? no
Or were the awards made in this world to a fictional character? no


Solo1:

You said her family was 'poor and uninfluential." Would she have won these awards if she had been from a rich and influential family? most of them, yes. Probably the rest of them, too, but that's up to conjecture Would she have won them more often if that were the case? No - I added that clause just to illustrate her lack of privilege/nepotism which might have led to winning awards, unjustly or otherwise
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Is it Time's Person of the Year? Or something similar, which is sometimes awarded to groups or to an abstract category of people?
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Is it Time's Person of the Year? yes! Or something similar, which is sometimes awarded to groups or to an abstract category of people? the aspect you have highlighted is relevant

So, we've worked out what the award is now. I could spoli the puzzle at this stage, but there may be some interest in working out exactly what the awards were handed out for - and why her husband, being of the lifespan, sex, and some undiscovered factors that he was, did not qualify for them.

So far, we have established, that she has won:

- One award related to her paid work, for a relevant organisation
- One award related to her 'nationality' (she is a born and bred midwesterner, most likely)
- One award related to her being part of a movement, for a relevant organisation
- Three more awards she won passively, that her husband did not qualify for.

If you're stuck, I'll give you the years she won them.
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Do you permit working from the list of Time awards? For now I will avoid looking it up

Did she win any of the awards personally? Were they all won due to her being a member of a category that won?

Was one of them for people under a certain age ('the children of America', 'the teenager' etc?)

Was one for all women? All women of a certain category?

Was one of the awards won by everybody?
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Oh and - if yes to an award won by everybody, was it post-2005, hence why her husband did not win it?

Was one award pre-1977 and would have been unwinnable by the woman had she been married then?

Was one of the awards dependent on her not having children?
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Was the award made to a Category of person, e.g. making "The Mother" the Person of the Year,
Or was this to a specific, named person?
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I see my questions are being asked by others in similar ways, apologies, should have read other posts
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Enjay:

Do you permit working from the list of Time awards? I might - it depends how the next few rounds of questioning go For now I will avoid looking it up

Did she win any of the awards personally? no, all were shared Were they all won due to her being a member of a category that won? yes

Was one of them for people under a certain age yes - the first ('the children of America', 'the teenager' etc?) '25 and under', specifically. She won this in 1966.

Was one for all women? no, but... All women of a certain category? this

Was one of the awards won by everybody? yes - the infamous 'you'

Oh and - if yes to an award won by everybody, was it post-2005, hence why her husband did not win it? correct - 'you' won it in 2006.

Was one award pre-1977 and would have been unwinnable by the woman had she been married then? her marriage did not change her eligibility for any award

Was one of the awards dependent on her not having children? no

Plebeian:

Was the award made to a Category of person, e.g. making "The Mother" the Person of the Year yes - all 6 times,
Or was this to a specific, named person? no

Current awards tally:

1966 - The Under-25
???? - Related to her 'nationality'
???? - Related to sub-category of 'women'
???? - Related to organisation/paid work
2006 - 'You'
???? - Related to movement/unpaid work
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Did the award for sub-category of women was won by her before marriage? After marriage?
Sub-category of women:
childless women?
working women?
NGO's women?
women of particular age?
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Did the award for sub-category of women was won by her before marriage? this After marriage?
Sub-category of women:
childless women?
working women?
NGO's women?
women of particular age? no to all
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Did the sub-category of women have in common: something about how they look like? Something about their family status? Something about their financial condition? Something about their race? Something about their religion? Something about their living environment? Something about their activities?
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Did the sub-category of women have in common: something about how they look like? Something about their family status? Something about their financial condition? Something about their race? this is closest, but not right Something about their religion? Something about their living environment? this too, although possibly misleading Something about their activities? no
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Women of particular ethnicity? Women of particular social status?
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Women of particular ethnicity? yesish - a number of people would consider the common denominator an 'ethnicity'. Women of particular social status? no
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Activism relevant? For any particular cause? Or just activism in general?

I know someone who lists 2006 Time Person of the Year on her resume under "awards." Now that I'm applying for jobs after graduation, maybe I should list it too.
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Also, wild guess - is she a cyborg who won when the Computer won?
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Gregoryuconn:

Activism relevant? yes! For any particular cause? no Or just activism in general? yes

I know someone who lists 2006 Time Person of the Year on her resume under "awards." Now that I'm applying for jobs after graduation, maybe I should list it too. It's a pity you're not from Europe, or you could add a Nobel Peace Prize to your list of accomplishments

Also, wild guess - is she a cyborg who won when the Computer won? No, I would classify that as a 'remarkable life'

I've been here since the turn of the millennium, and I think that this is the first puzzle I've ever hosted to run past 100 posts.
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So did the win as "The Activist" just for being an activist?

Was either the nationality or women award given to all American women?
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Also, wasn't there one given to Earth? And since she lived on Earth, maybe she won that award too? Or is that too much of a stretch?
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So did the win as "The Activist" just for being an activist? Close enough - the award was given to 'the protester'

Was either the nationality or women award given to all American women? yes

Also, wasn't there one given to Earth? there was And since she lived on Earth, maybe she won that award too? no Or is that too much of a stretch? Yes :P There were a few broad category awards such as 'the peacemakers' that one could lay spurious claim to, but this award was represented by a few nameable people (who were identified on the cover), so I haven't counted these awards among her achievements.

Current awards tally:

1966 - The Under-25
???? - Related to her 'nationality'
1975 - American women
???? - Related to organisation/paid work
2006 - 'You'
2011 - The protester
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Were the woman's parents born in America? Is that relevant? Did first-generation Americans win the award? Native Americans?
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Were the woman's parents born in America? irrel Is that relevant? no Did first-generation Americans win the award? a good number did Native Americans? many did, although this would be due to a geographical technicality. The spirit of the award was not geared towards those on reservations, for example
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Did she work for any UN agency? Did she work for an ecological organisation?
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Did she work for any UN agency? Did she work for an ecological organisation? no to both
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Was the woman American citizen? Was she a citizen of more than one state? Was she a citizen of any state?
Is the second award related to citizenship? To nationality that is not connected with citizenship?
Did she work for a human rights organisation?
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Was the woman American citizen? yes, born and bredWas she a citizen of more than one state? no/irrel Was she a citizen of any state? yes - but not, for example, Hawaii or New Hampshire
Is the second award related to citizenship? I'm fairly sure it required her to be a US citizen To nationality that is not connected with citizenship? I would argue that it's more about nationalism than citizenship
Did she work for a human rights organisation? no
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Since it was relevant that she lived in the midwest, was one of the awards given to 'midwest America' or similar?
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Since it was relevant that she lived in the midwest, was one of the awards given to 'midwest America' or similar? Close enough - it was given to 'the middle Americans' a somewhat ambiguous and ill-defined formulation of the silent majority. Her husband, at the time, did not qualify for that award...

One piece of the puzzle remains.

1966 - The Under-25
1969 - The 'middle Americans'
1975 - American women
???? - Related to organisation/paid work (a nationalistic, non-human rights-based one)
2006 - 'You'
2011 - The protester
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Government workers? Public employees? People of any specific profession? If so, will you allow [LTPF list of industries]?
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Government workers? in a manner of speaking Public employees? yes People of any specific profession? yes If so, will you allow [LTPF list of industries]? that would pretty much give it away instantly, so no. It shouldn't take you long, regardless
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Was she in the military? Espionage relevant?
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teachers?
medical staff of some kind?
police?
firefighters?
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Enjay:

Was she in the military? yes! Espionage relevant? no<

***** SPOILER *****

The woman was Time magazine's 'person of the year 6 times, mostly due to the far-from-unusual happenstance of her birth. She was born in the American Midwest in 1957. She married an older migrant in 1977. Like a number of American women, she enlisted to fight in the gulf war around 1991, but was unable to travel. She remained as a member of the United States army, taking on an administrative role near where she grew up. After her husband's death in 2005, she became involved in a fairly non-commital way with the occupy protests. So, despite not having lived a life that could reasonably be described as remarkable, she qualified for 6 of these awards that her husband did not. They are:

1966 - As a member of the 'Under 25, A.K.A. The inheritor'
1969 - As a member of the 'Middle Americans'
1975 - As a member of the 'American women'
2003 - As an 'American soldier'
2006 - As 'you'
2011 - As 'the protestor'


Thanks to all for playing - this is not only the longest puzzle statement I've ever used, but it turned out to be the longest puzzle. I appreciate and admire the tenacity of all the solvers; it would be a disservice to name any one player, but you all know who you are.

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