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This is a fairly well-known story, so early spoilers feel free to email

All M&M's taste exactly the same. But a group of people once demanded a bowl of M&M's have all the brown ones removed. They did this often and were deadly serious about it. Why?
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Were this group of people racist? Were they allergic to an ingredient of brown cover? Were M&M's supposed to be eaten? If eaten, by this group of people?
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Were this group of people racist? No Were they allergic to an ingredient of brown cover? No Were M&M's supposed to be eaten? Not sure, irrelevant If eaten, by this group of people? If yes, yes
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Is the reason for their request personal about them? Personal about one of them? Something about brown M&M's? Something about brown colour?

Before they did it for the first time, did something happen that prompted them to do so? Were there only one group of people doing so? Did they demand brown ones removed every time they were ordering M&M's?
Is it relevant where they ordered their M&M's?

Could other group of people demand red ones removed for similar reason? Would any other colour removed serve the purpose of the group of people in the puzzle sentence?
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Is the reason for their request personal about them? Personal about one of them? Something about brown M&M's? Something about brown colour? No to all

Before they did it for the first time, did something happen that prompted them to do so? Not sure Were there only one group of people doing so? Other groups do similar things Did they demand brown ones removed every time they were ordering M&M's? No
Is it relevant where they ordered their M&M's? Yes

Could other group of people demand red ones removed for similar reason? Yes Would any other colour removed serve the purpose of the group of people in the puzzle sentence? The exact color they chose was arbitrary
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I know this one. I'll stay out.
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Did they start demanding one colour out after a relevant event?
Did they want to make a point? If yes, about racism?
Did they order M&M's in cinema? In sports arena?
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Did they want the brown ones removed, along with other colors? e.g. they wanted only blue, no other color?
Did they want this done for a special occasion?
Who are 'they'? An organization? a family? HAF? HAM? Mixed?
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Oh wow I mentioned this story in a conversation last night.
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Did they start demanding one colour out after a relevant event? No
Did they want to make a point? Noish If yes, about racism? No
Did they order M&M's in cinema? In sports arena? Neither

Did they want the brown ones removed, along with other colors? No, just brown e.g. they wanted only blue, no other color?
Did they want this done for a special occasion? No
Who are 'they'? An organization? DOYD a family? Some of them are related, but no HAF? HAM? Mixed? All HAM

I just realized by searching the archive that this story was the source of a puzzle many years back. I don't recognize any of the names in the thread, but veterans might have perused it I suppose.
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Relevant how many they were? Did they need there to be one colour for each of them left? No ingriedients of m&ms relevant? Could they have chosen something other than m&m to do this with?

Was the visual impression of the m&ms without the brown important?
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Relevant how many they were? Just "a bowl" Did they need there to be one colour for each of them left? No No ingriedients of m&ms relevant? No Could they have chosen something other than m&m to do this with? It could have just as easily been Skittles or any multi-colored packaged food item

Was the visual impression of the m&ms without the brown important? No
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I'm familiar with this one, too; and, while it may not be my place to say, the answer to 'Before they did it for the first time, did something happen that prompted them to do so?' is yes (since you weren't sure yourself).
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Thanks for the assist. That's what I thought tbh, but I figured it didn't really affect the puzzle either way. The threat of something happening is probably sufficient.
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Would the multi-colored foot item have to be circular, small and solid? Some combination of these? Would Fruit Loops work? Could they have used circular coins instead and served the same function? If so, would they have had to remove one kind of coin? If coins wouldn't work, is it relevant that not all coins are the same size? If so, would it work if all coins were the same size?
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Team colors relevant?
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I know this one too so will bow out but I agree it makes a good basis for a puzzle!
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Did they need a mix of x number of colours, and usually m&m's come in x+1 number of colours, so they wanted one colour out?
Did they order their m&m's packed? Just loose in a bowl? Did they do something relevant with m&m's, besides eating them?
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Would the multi-colored foot item have to be circular, small and solid? Some combination of these? Would Fruit Loops work? Could they have used circular coins instead and served the same function? If so, would they have had to remove one kind of coin? If coins wouldn't work, is it relevant that not all coins are the same size? If so, would it work if all coins were the same size? Really, any candy or food with small, differently-colored individual items would work. So Fruit Loops could work, so might Lucky Charms or gummy bears, but not coins or Cheerios.

Team colors relevant? No

Did they need a mix of x number of colours, and usually m&m's come in x+1 number of colours, so they wanted one colour out? No
Did they order their m&m's packed? Just loose in a bowl? Loose in a bowl Did they do something relevant with m&m's, besides eating them? No really, besides checking for brown ones
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Did they make another relevant request concerning the rejected colour? Like: take all browns out and give them to X?
Did they take brown ones out by themselves? Or have someone to take them out for them?
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Did they make another relevant request concerning the rejected colour? No Like: take all browns out and give them to X? No
Did they take brown ones out by themselves? Or have someone to take them out for them? They wanted someone else to remove them
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Was there a bet involved? A game?
If they got all colours of sweets in a bowl, would it cause financial loss for them? Emotional loss? Health damage? Social damage? Would they not get expected benefit?
Were they paid to issue such a request? Did they do it in their professional capacity? Were they checking the quality of the service in the place where they made that request?
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Was there a bet involved? A game? No to both
If they got all colours of sweets in a bowl, would it cause financial loss for them? Possibly Emotional loss? Health damage? This was their main concern Social damage? With a little of this Would they not get expected benefit?
Were they paid to issue such a request? Yope Did they do it in their professional capacity? Yes Were they checking the quality of the service in the place where they made that request? Yes!
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Is the reason for their action just a whim? Are they doing this just because they can?
Show business involved in any way?
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Is the reason for their action just a whim? Are they doing this just because they can? No, they have a very serious reason for doing so
Show business involved in any way? Yes
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Is it sort of hidden camera? Would the group win a prize if they can get someone to remove all the brown M&M's from their bowl? Would the employee of the place win a prize if he/she stays polite upon such a request?
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You said that "their main concern" was "health damage", but that the color they chose (brown) was arbitrary, and furthermore, that they were doing it to test the quality of service. So was it NOT that they were concerned a negative health effect for THEM? but rather that if their request were ignored, that the requests of others with real health implications would likely also be ignored?
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Is it sort of hidden camera? Would the group win a prize if they can get someone to remove all the brown M&M's from their bowl? Would the employee of the place win a prize if he/she stays polite upon such a request? No to all

You said that "their main concern" was "health damage", but that the color they chose (brown) was arbitrary, and furthermore, that they were doing it to test the quality of service. So was it NOT that they were concerned a negative health effect for THEM? It was for themselves and others but rather that if their request were ignored, that the requests of others with real health implications would likely also be ignored? Yes
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What I meant with the first question was, did they think that eating brown M&Ms would pose an actual risk to their health (except maybe the psychological effect of anger at their request being ignored)? or did they use an innocuous request to judge how another, later request, that WOULD actually have severe health consequences, would be received by those serving the food?
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What I meant with the first question was, did they think that eating brown M&Ms would pose an actual risk to their health (except maybe the psychological effect of anger at their request being ignored)? No or did they use an innocuous request to judge how another, later request, that WOULD actually have severe health consequences, would be received by those serving the food? Yes
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Were they "mysterious clients", sent by the management of the place to check service quality? Were they doing research? Carrying out a survey?
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Were they "mysterious clients", sent by the management of the place to check service quality? Were they doing research? Carrying out a survey? No to all
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Were they activists of a health issues concerned organisation? Were they making a TV or radio program concerning life of people with particular health conditions? Did they make their request in the place that should be (or claimed to be) particularly concerned about health issues?
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Were they activists of a health issues concerned organisation? Were they making a TV or radio program concerning life of people with particular health conditions? Did they make their request in the place that should be (or claimed to be) particularly concerned about health issues? No to all

CORRECTION: The answer to whether they were concerned "that if their request were ignored, that the requests of others with real health implications would likely also be ignored?" should be NO. They were concerned about other requests with health implications for others, but they were the ones making the requests.
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Time for a hint I think.

The request for M&M's was not verbal. How they made the request is important.
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Did they write down the request? Did they sign it?
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Did they write down the request? Did they sign it? Yes to both.
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Were they management of M&M's serving place? Did they want the brown M&M's not to be served in that place at all?
Was their request sent by mail to the M&M's serving place?
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Were they management of M&M's serving place? Did they want the brown M&M's not to be served in that place at all? No to all
Was their request sent by mail to the M&M's serving place? Yes, or perhaps fax
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This is random and gross, but does it pertain at all to animal droppings?
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This is random and gross, but does it pertain at all to animal droppings? Fortunately no
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Phew. Glad to hear it. :-)
Was the request written as a sort of petition?
Is it important what type of group they were? Affiliated by career? Religion? Some other common cause?
Would people outside any group doing this consider the reason legitimate/rational?
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Was the request written as a sort of petition? No
Is it important what type of group they were? Yes Affiliated by career? Kinda this, they worked together Religion? Some other common cause? No to the rest
Would people outside any group doing this consider the reason legitimate/rational? The reason is rational and legitimate
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HINT: The group in question was a musical group
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Relevant what musical group it was? What genre? Were the other groups who did this also musical groups?
Did they share their instruments with others? Were they afraid M&M residue would be left on the instruments/microphone?
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Relevant what musical group it was? What genre? The genre is more relevant than the actual band Were the other groups who did this also musical groups? No other groups actually did this, but they might've for the same reason
Did they share their instruments with others? Were they afraid M&M residue would be left on the instruments/microphone? Both irrelevant
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Rock? Jazz? Pop? Country? Orchestra? Marching band?
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Rock? This Jazz? Pop? Country? Orchestra? Marching band?
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Any rock band habits relevant? Like smashing instruments or crowd-surfing?
Were they worried for the health of their audience? Crew? Band memebers? Other bands?
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Any rock band habits relevant? Yesish Like smashing instruments or crowd-surfing? Neither of those
Were they worried for the health of their audience? Yes Crew? Occasionally Band memebers? Yes Other bands? Occasionally
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Is relevant habit usually a rock thing, or is it implemented in other genres? Headbanging relevant? Screaming?
Is the health hazard only present at concerts? Is it M&M residue people come in contact with? On band members? On instruments?
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Is the relevant habit usually a rock thing, or do other genres implement it? Headbanging relevant? Screaming? Specific instruments? Specific clothing/costumes?
Is the health hazard M&M residue? Is the band mostly worried about concerts?
Would the residue get on people due to contact with the band? Instruments? Stage?
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Is the relevant habit usually a rock thing, or do other genres implement it? Probably a few other genres might, but typically rock Headbanging relevant? Screaming? Specific instruments? Specific clothing/costumes?
Is the health hazard M&M residue? Is the band mostly worried about concerts? Yes
Would the residue get on people due to contact with the band? Instruments? Stage? No to everything else
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Hmmm, tricky tricky. You said earlier it was important that they wrote the request...
Is important where the band was performing? Relevant what country? relevant what building? Specific audience?
Were they performing somewhere they did not speak the language?
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Hmmm, tricky tricky. You said earlier it was important that they wrote the request... Yes, very
Is important where the band was performing? They asked this of every venue Relevant what country? relevant what building? Specific audience?
Were they performing somewhere they did not speak the language? The rest isn't relevant
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Was there a specific reason they could not make the request verbally? Physical reason? Moral reason? Matter of convenience? Did they have access to phones?
Would the request be met if they made it verbally? Did they write it to keep it secretive? Did the public know the band made said requests?
Were the M&Ms only eaten by the band? Or by crew? By audience members?
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Was there a specific reason they could not make the request verbally? Yes Physical reason? Moral reason? Matter of convenience? Did they have access to phones? I'll give you a gimme and say it was for legal reasons
Would the request be met if they made it verbally? Probably Did they write it to keep it secretive? Noish Did the public know the band made said requests? It was reported later
Were the M&Ms only eaten by the band? It was in their dressing room, so probably Or by crew? By audience members?
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Did they write it in order to have a permanent record of it? To have proof in case there was a problem?
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Did they write it in order to have a permanent record of it? No To have proof in case there was a problem? No
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Were they required to make written request? Were their other requests also written? Was the written request needed for accountancy reasons?
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Were they required to make written request? Yes Were their other requests also written? Yes Was the written request needed for accountancy reasons? No

I think you're all over-thinking this. What kind of written requests would be legally required of a band before they perform?
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Contract?
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Contract? Yes
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Did the band make any other silly requests in their contract? Was this always mentioned in all of their contracts?
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Did the band make any other silly requests in their contract? No Was this always mentioned in all of their contracts? Only ones in large venues, which I believe was pretty much ALL of their venues.

Watch the slight FA, btw. The request itself was for something silly, but their reason for doing so certainly was not.
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Did their contract stipulate that ALL the brown M&Ms must be removed from any M&Ms they were given?

I *like* brown M&Ms!
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Did their contract stipulate that ALL the brown M&Ms must be removed from any M&Ms they were given? It did

I *like* brown M&Ms! The color? Because all M&M's taste the same...
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Were they testing how carefully a venue read the contracts they signed? to determine whether they would choose to perform there again?
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Were they testing how carefully a venue read the contracts they signed? Yes! to determine whether they would choose to perform there again? Yope, but I think it's close enough for a...

*******SPOILER*******
The rock band Van Halen always stipulated in its contracts with venues that there would no be brown M&M's in the bowl backstage. The contract further stipulated that if there were any, Van Halen would forfeit the show but still receive full compensation. The portion demanding M&M's was always towards the beginning of the contract, while the section demanding no brown ones was always halfway through.

Van Halen's bizarre M&M proclivities became something of a legend, as more than once disappointed fans were told they would be denied a performance because David Lee Roth found a brown M&M. But years later, Roth admitted that there was ingenious reason for the M&M clause. Van Halen traveled with nine semis carrying a massive amount of flashy sets, pyrotechnics, and technical gear. The contract was hundreds of pages of very exact and technical specifications. Without the venue taking even the smallest precaution seriously, the band and the fans would all be in danger. The M&M's were devised as a test to see whether they had actually read the contract cover to cover.

Roth told one example where upon arriving at an arena, he found the accursed brown M&M's. He trashed his dressing room and refused to perform. Later that night the entire stage sunk through the floor because management neglected to look at weight requirements, causing $80,000 of damage.

The next day, the headlines all said that David Lee Roth flipped out because there were brown M&M's in his dressing room and caused $85,000 worth of damage. "Well," he recalled, "Who am I to get in the way of a good rumor?"

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