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Wizardofnz (Wizardofnz)
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Posted on Tuesday, January 14, 2014 - 11:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A man leaves his girlfriend and heads overseas to start a new life, taking his every last possession with him. Distraught, she throws out every item in the house that reminds her of him.

Immediately afterwards, as an act of revenge, she (legally) makes a subsequent series of sales on eBay. She makes a considerable sum of money and gravely wounds her former boyfriend in the process. What did she sell?
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Presumably he didn't leave anything at all that belonged to him? So the stuff she sold was her's to sell? But somehow related to him? Was it tangible stuff? Did it gravely wound her former boyfriend in terms of his reputation? Financially?
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Did she sell gifts that he had given her?
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Does she use the money she makes to 'gravely wound' him?
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Presumably he didn't leave anything at all that belonged to him? yes So the stuff she sold was her's to sell? correct; no theft is involved But somehow related to him? yes Was it tangible stuff? no! Did it gravely wound her former boyfriend in terms of his reputation? Financially? no to both

Did she sell gifts that he had given her? no, these were thrown out as things 'that remind her of him'

Does she use the money she makes to 'gravely wound' him? No; it was the sale itself
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Did she sell things like copyrights that they both owned? Rights to something or other?
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Did she sell things like copyrights that they both owned? Rights to something or other? no to both
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Was he physically gravely wounded or just upset by what she did?
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Was he physically gravely wounded or just upset by what she did? just upset
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Intangible stuff: computer data? Services? Information?
Would any average boyfriend be upset if their ex-girlfriend sold what she did? Do we need to know something they did when still together? Or owned? Or did not do?
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Was it photos of him?
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Did the man suffer material loss as a result of the sales? Financial loss? Social difficulties? Legal difficulties? Embarrassment?

Was the ex-boyfriend wounded because what she did revealed something about he feelings towards him? Because it was a heartless thing to do?

Is it relevant why the man left his girlfriend? Relevant where he moved to? Where they lived to begin with?
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Did the items she sold represent material value for buyer(s)? Was it passwords? Some virtual stuff they collected in games?
Would any possible buyer immediately know it was an ex-girlfriend's revenge?
Did the sales result in his (even small) financial loss?
Did all the sales concern the same type of stuff?
Did they live together during their relationship? Is that relevant?
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Galfisk:

Intangible stuff: computer data? yope Services? no Information? yes
Would any average boyfriend be upset if their ex-girlfriend sold what she did? yes; if this information existed to sell, it would upset any boyfriend in this scenario Do we need to know something they did when still together? yes, strictly speaking. May not be the most useful line of enquiry, though Or owned? no Or did not do? no

Martinfg:

Was it photos of him? no; these would likely remind her of him

Enjay:

Did the man suffer material loss as a result of the sales? Financial loss? Social difficulties? Legal difficulties? Embarrassment? none of the above

Was the ex-boyfriend wounded because what she did revealed something about he feelings towards him? not relevantly Because it was a heartless thing to do? mostly this

Is it relevant why the man left his girlfriend? Relevant where he moved to? Where they lived to begin with? no to all of these

Redwine:

Did the items she sold represent material value for buyer(s)? potential material value, yes Was it passwords? no; the ex-boyfriend was powerless to thwart her scheme once the auction started Some virtual stuff they collected in games? no
Would any possible buyer immediately know it was an ex-girlfriend's revenge? As this is a true story, she pretty much mentioned that in the auction. Even if she hadn't, the nature of the sale would certainly raise a few eyebrows, given that it wasn't the boyfriend himself who was selling them
Did the sales result in his (even small) financial loss? no
Did all the sales concern the same type of stuff? yes
Did they live together during their relationship? yes Is that relevant? no
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Was he in the process of inventing something? And she gave away his secrets? Did she give away magician type secrets?
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Is it correct to say that her actions result in only emotional hurt to her ex-boyfriend?
Was the harm done to ex-boyfriend as soon as the auctions started? As soon as someone bought the offered stuff? If he had bought the offered stuff, would the harm still have been done to him?
Did she sell information about his likes and dislikes? Did she sell some kind of database (like phone numbers of his friends)? Were any other people concerned, besides her, her boyfriend and the buyer(s)?
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Lynne:

Was he in the process of inventing something? And she gave away his secrets? Did she give away magician type secrets? no to all, but definitely OTRT

Redwine:

Is it correct to say that her actions result in only emotional hurt to her ex-boyfriend? That was his only net loss; there was net gain for the buyers
Was the harm done to ex-boyfriend as soon as the auctions started? it would have started As soon as someone bought the offered stuff? this is where the bulk of the damage would be done If he had bought the offered stuff, would the harm still have been done to him? He would have suffered some indignity and the financial loss in association with purchasing the item for no gain
Did she sell information about his likes and dislikes? the information didn't pertain to him specifically Did she sell some kind of database (like phone numbers of his friends)? No. Remember people were willing to pay a lot of money for this Were any other people concerned, besides her, her boyfriend and the buyer(s)? no
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Is the ex-boyfriend's profession relevant?
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Is the ex-boyfriend's profession relevant? no
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Did the relevant information concern her? Her ex-boyfriend's hobbies?
Did the information concern Internet activities? Computer/Video games?
Was the information verbal?
Did she sell video records? Sound records?
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Did the relevant information concern her? Her ex-boyfriend's hobbies? this!
Did the information concern Internet activities? Computer/Video games?
Was the information verbal?
Did she sell video records? Sound records? no to rest
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Was the sold information a sort of know-how?
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Did the eBay purchasers receive information in the form of an email?

The hobby - puzzles? crosswords? did he write books? Write scripts for films/TV programmes? Did she reveal spoilers?
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Redwine:

Was the sold information a sort of know-how? It wasn't a know-how. It was a know-...?

Lynne:

Did the eBay purchasers receive information in the form of an email? I believe so.

The hobby - puzzles? crosswords? did he write books? Write scripts for films/TV programmes? Did she reveal spoilers? no to all
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Know-what? Know-who? Did she sell answers to something? Puzzle solutions? Some mathematical formula? Game strategies? Cheat codes? Virtual assets in a game? Such as in-game gold? Is a game relevant?
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Know-where? Know-when?
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Is it information that is useful to him in his new location?
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She is selling bit patterns?
In the form of data files?
Executable files?
Picture files?
Text files?
Sound files?
Movie files?
Files generated by a well known program such as
Microsoft Excel files?
Microsoft Powerpoint files?
Other such files?
References to pages on the web?
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Galfisk:

Know-what? Know-who? no to both Did she sell answers to something? Puzzle solutions? Some mathematical formula? Game strategies? Cheat codes? Virtual assets in a game? Such as in-game gold? no to all Is a game relevant? no

Redwine:

Know-where? yes Know-when? no

Lynne:

Is it information that is useful to him in his new location? no

Abc:

She is selling bit patterns? no
In the form of data files? no
Executable files?
Picture files?
Text files?
Sound files?
Movie files?
Files generated by a well known program such as
Microsoft Excel files?
Microsoft Powerpoint files?
Other such files? n/a to all
References to pages on the web? no
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Wild guess: Was he a trainspotter or planespotter? Did she sell information on where to spot a specific train / plane?
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Wild guess: Was he a trainspotter or planespotter? Did she sell information on where to spot a specific train / plane? No, he was not a 'spotter' of any sort, but this is OTRT
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Does the ex-boyfriend know the information that she is selling? If so, does he not want many other people to know it?

Is she selling the location of something? A map? If she wanted to, could she make the sale by meting the buyer in person and speaking to them, without giving them anything physical?

Has the boyfriend hidden something? Is there something valuable that only he knew the location of, but now others will too?
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Does the ex-boyfriend know the information that she is selling? yes If so, does he not want many other people to know it? yes

Is she selling the location of something? yes A map? co-ordinates, but yes If she wanted to, could she make the sale by meting the buyer in person and speaking to them, without giving them anything physical? yes

Has the boyfriend hidden something? no Is there something valuable that only he knew the location of, but now others will too? yes
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Has he found buried treasure? Is geocaching relevant? A dead drop?

Will all the buyers receive the same coordinates?
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Has he found buried treasure? no Is geocaching relevant? no A dead drop? no

Will all the buyers receive the same coordinates? no - although had she chosen another outlet, she could have sold all the same co-ordinates to multiple people
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Will the buyers go to the locations that she sells them? Will they need to communicate with each other in order to make sense of the coordinates? Has the man been to the location before? Was he planning to go? Was he planning to sell the coordinates?
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Will the buyers go to the locations that she sells them? individually, yes Will they need to communicate with each other in order to make sense of the coordinates? no Has the man been to the location before? yes Was he planning to go? no Was he planning to sell the coordinates? no

Remember, this relates to his hobby. It's quite a common one
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Is his hobby sports-related? Has he found perfect locations for doing this sport?

Does he hunt? catch butterflies or other insects? collect plants? mushrooms? truffles?
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Is his hobby sports-related? yes Has he found perfect locations for doing this sport? yes!

Does he hunt? yes (slight DOYD) catch butterflies or other insects? collect plants? mushrooms? truffles? no to rest
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Does he hunt in the sense of "chasing wild animals or birds in order to catch or kill them for food, sport or to make money"?
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Does he hunt in the sense of "chasing wild animals or birds in order to catch or kill them for food, sport or to make money"? Aside from the word 'chasing', that definition covers his sport
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Does he set traps for the animals? Relevant what animals he hunts for?
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Does he set traps for the animals? yes Relevant what animals he hunts for? yes
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Are they mammals? reptiles? amphibians? birds? fish? Are they commonly found in [LTPF list of continents]? Are they endangered? Is it common to hunt for them?
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Are they mammals? reptiles? amphibians? birds? fish? This. He's a keen fisherman Are they commonly found in [LTPF list of continents]? yes to all Are they endangered? some are Is it common to hunt for them? very

**** SPOILER *****

She sold the GPS co-ordinates for bountiful fishing spots that he had discovered and made her swear never to reveal to anyone. Based closely on a true story:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/8132996


Well done, Doriana. Now, I will tackle your menage-a-quatre puzzle.
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Whoop whoop, two solves in a row - and another nice puzzle!

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