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Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Wednesday, January 29, 2014 - 9:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

After bombing a test, a student hopes that he got a 50, not a 40 or a 60. Why?
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Posted on Wednesday, January 29, 2014 - 9:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are we talking about a test that one might sit in the classroom of a secondary school?

And the score they earn is a percentage, and the pass mark is set at 50? 60?

Are the student's previous marks relevant? Is he hoping to qualify too highly for something, but not highly enough for something else?

Does he hope to get 50 because it would create some kind of interesting pattern or other mathematical oddity?

Are the marks of his classmates relevant?
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Is the subject relevant?

Is a bet involved?
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Posted on Thursday, January 30, 2014 - 1:52 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does the teacher allow students to retake assignments if they get below a certain score? So a 60 would be too high to retake and the student would be stuck with it? But maybe the the teacher only allows students to gain a certain number of points on the retake, so even if the student gains the maximum he'd still fail if he got a 30?

Would the student be happy if he got a 45? 55? 49? 51? 41? 59?
Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
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Also, does "bombing" mean doing poorly, or did he actually detonate a bomb during the exam? Or maybe call in a bomb threat to the school so he didn't have to take the exam?

I know there was a bomb threat the day of a major exam at one of UConn's regional campuses. Then there was another bomb threat the day the test was rescheduled. And they had to reschedule it again, but there was another bomb threat. Finally, they caught the person who called in all three. She's in jail now.
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Thursday, January 30, 2014 - 5:00 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are we talking about a test that one might sit in the classroom of a secondary school? Yes

And the score they earn is a percentage, Yes and the pass mark is set at 50? 60? This

Are the student's previous marks relevant? Yes Is he hoping to qualify too highly for something, but not highly enough for something else? No

Does he hope to get 50 because it would create some kind of interesting pattern or other mathematical oddity? No

Are the marks of his classmates relevant? No

Is the subject relevant? No

Is a bet involved? No

Does the teacher allow students to retake assignments No but OTRT if they get below a certain score? Yes So a 60 would be too high to retake and the student would be stuck with it? Yes But maybe the the teacher only allows students to gain a certain number of points on the retake, Yes so even if the student gains the maximum he'd still fail if he got a 30? Not exactly

Would the student be happy if he got a 45? 55? 49? 51? 41? 59? He'd be happy if he got 50-59

Also, does "bombing" mean doing poorly This, or did he actually detonate a bomb during the exam? Or maybe call in a bomb threat to the school so he didn't have to take the exam?

I know there was a bomb threat the day of a major exam at one of UConn's regional campuses. Then there was another bomb threat the day the test was rescheduled. And they had to reschedule it again, but there was another bomb threat. Finally, they caught the person who called in all three. She's in jail now. Sheesh, there's better things to do if you don't study...
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Posted on Thursday, January 30, 2014 - 8:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So it would be correct to say that the student would rather narrowly fail than narrowly pass or completely fail? Would he be happy if it turned out he had done better than he thought and got a high pass mark?

Is there a certain mark below which you are not considered to have taken the exam at all? And the student would rather just not have that exam on his record, rather than have it but with a bad grade?

Are any other exams or marks relevant? If so, previous marks for the same subject? For different subjects? Future marks? Is the student thinking about his average for the year/semester?

If he gets a 50, will this somehow mean that his overall grade is better than if he got a 40 or a 50? Will it mean that he has the chance to make this the case?

Is there something relevant that only students who score below 50 have to do? That only they can do? That only students who score above 60 have to do? That only they can do? That only students who score 50-59 have to do? Can do?
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Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 - 2:55 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So it would be correct to say that the student would rather narrowly fail than narrowly pass or completely fail? Yes, but the numbers are relevant Would he be happy if it turned out he had done better than he thought and got a high pass mark? Yes

Is there a certain mark below which you are not considered to have taken the exam at all? No And the student would rather just not have that exam on his record, rather than have it but with a bad grade? No

Are any other exams or marks relevant? See below If so, previous marks for the same subject? For different subjects? Future marks? Is the student thinking about his average for the year/semester? This - good q

If he gets a 50, will this somehow mean that his overall grade is better than if he got a 40 or a 60? No, but... Will it mean that he has the chance to make this the case? Yes-ish

Is there something relevant that only students who score below 50 have to do? That only they can do? That only students who score above 60 have to do? That only they can do? That only students who score 50-59 have to do? Can do? No to all, but you're circling around it. There is something only students who score below 60 can do
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Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 - 3:02 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Can only students with a grade below 60 retake the test? I have a professor who lets students redo homeworks if they get below 6/10 and some students who have gotten a 6 had begged him to change it to a 5 so they can retake it. He agreed to do so in all those cases.
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Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 - 5:21 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it one of those classes where the lowest score on all the tests is dropped? Did he have a bad test score earlier in the semester that he really wants dropped?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Saturday, February 01, 2014 - 11:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Can only students with a grade below 60 Yes retake the test? No

I have a professor who lets students redo homeworks if they get below 6/10 and some students who have gotten a 6 had begged him to change it to a 5 so they can retake it. He agreed to do so in all those cases. Nice prof.

Is it one of those classes where the lowest score on all the tests is dropped? No Did he have a bad test score earlier in the semester that he really wants dropped? No
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Posted on Sunday, February 02, 2014 - 1:55 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is getting below a 60 a failing grade for the exam? And getting 60 or above a passing mark? Are only students who get below a 60 on the test eligible for some extra credit assignment?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Sunday, February 02, 2014 - 8:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is getting below a 60 a failing grade for the exam? And getting 60 or above a passing mark? Are only students who get below a 60 on the test eligible for some extra credit assignment? Yes to all
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Posted on Sunday, February 02, 2014 - 9:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does the student want the chance to do something for extra credit to make up his grade? If he got 40, would he still be allowed to do the extra credit assignment? Would 40 be so low that he could not bring his average up enough even with the extra credit?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Monday, February 03, 2014 - 4:57 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does the student want the chance to do something for extra credit to make up his grade? If he got 40, would he still be allowed to do the extra credit assignment? Would 40 be so low that he could not bring his average up enough even with the extra credit? Yes to all.

****SPOILER****

This professor allows any student who fails a test, and only those who fail a test, to perform an extra credit assignment, with the possibility of regaining up to half the points not gotten on the test. This student needs at least a 75 in order to keep his GPA high enough for the honor roll, so he hopes he got a 50, because that would allow him with full extra credit to get that 75. If he got a 40, he could only get a 70 maximum; if a 60, he'd get no extra credit at all.

That's two solves in a row, Enjay. Good work.

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