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Redwine (Redwine)
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Posted on Wednesday, February 05, 2014 - 12:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

John dropped the rope. Kyle fainted.
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Wednesday, February 05, 2014 - 1:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it a jump rope? An ordinary thick rope? Thickness of the rope relevant?
Was John holding the entire rope? One end?
Is a game relevant? Tug-o-war?
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Posted on Wednesday, February 05, 2014 - 2:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Balin:
Is it a jump rope? No. An ordinary thick rope? Possibly. Thickness of the rope relevant? Noish. It's rather a thin rope.
Was John holding the entire rope? No. One end? No.
Is a game relevant? No. Tug-o-war? No.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 05, 2014 - 5:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did Kyle faint because something was revealed that had previously been hidden by something else (directly or indirectly held in place by the rope)? Did he think that dropping the rope would cause something awful to happen? or did Kyle faint for purely physiological reasons (lack of oxygen, being held upside down for a long time, blood loss, etc.)?

Did John drop the rope intentionally? Did Kyle expect him to?
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Posted on Wednesday, February 05, 2014 - 7:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Biograd:
Did Kyle faint because something was revealed that had previously been hidden by something else (directly or indirectly held in place by the rope)? No. Did he think that dropping the rope would cause something awful to happen? Yes. or did Kyle faint for purely physiological reasons (lack of oxygen, being held upside down for a long time, blood loss, etc.)? No.

Did John drop the rope intentionally? Yes. Did Kyle expect him to? No.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 05, 2014 - 8:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Something awful: death? Injury? Loss? Disaster? Did John intend for Kyle to think something awful would happen? Did John want to scare Kyle? Teach him a lesson? Play a prank?
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Posted on Wednesday, February 05, 2014 - 9:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Galfisk:
Something awful: death? Injury? Loss? Disaster? All of them, mostly death. Did John intend for Kyle to think something awful would happen? Yes. Did John want to scare Kyle? Yes. Teach him a lesson? No. Play a prank? Yes.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 05, 2014 - 10:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the rope holding someone up? Something?
Is a third person (or more) relevant?
Redwine (Redwine)
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Posted on Thursday, February 06, 2014 - 12:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Balin:
Was the rope holding someone up? Something? No to both.
Is a third person (or more) relevant? There were other people, but they are not relevant.
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Posted on Saturday, February 08, 2014 - 8:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was anything attached to the rope at any time during the puzzle?
Death: to Kyle? To John? To someone else?
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Posted on Tuesday, February 11, 2014 - 9:55 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Galfisk:
Was anything attached to the rope at any time during the puzzle? No, but...
Death: to Kyle? Yes. To John? Yes. To someone else? Yes.
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Posted on Tuesday, February 11, 2014 - 11:12 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did Kyle think the rope should be attached to something? Did he mistake it for another rope? Is there anything special we should know about the rope, except that it is a rope?
Death by: falling? Fire? Explosion? Suffocation? Projectile? Laceration? Impact? Poison? Freezing? Heat? Strangulation? Starvation? Dehydration? Drowning? Inhalation?
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Posted on Tuesday, February 11, 2014 - 2:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Galfisk:
Did Kyle think the rope should be attached to something? Yes. Did he mistake it for another rope? No. Is there anything special we should know about the rope, except that it is a rope? No.
Death by: falling? This. Fire? Explosion? This is also possible. Suffocation? Projectile? Laceration? Impact? Poison? Freezing? Heat? Strangulation? Starvation? Dehydration? Drowning? This is also possible. Inhalation? No to the rest.
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Posted on Tuesday, February 11, 2014 - 3:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are John and Kyle in the same place? Are weapons involved? The military? Airplanes? Ships? Subs?
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Posted on Wednesday, February 12, 2014 - 9:38 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Galfisk:
Are John and Kyle in the same place? Yes. Are weapons involved? The military? Airplanes? Only this, no to the rest. Ships? Subs?
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Posted on Wednesday, February 12, 2014 - 3:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the rope attached between the two planes? Is someone tightrope-walking across the rope?
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Posted on Wednesday, February 12, 2014 - 9:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does Kyle think a plane will crash? Disintegrate? Stop functioning? Does he think that something will come loose from the plane? That something will open? Are they on an airplane? Parachuting relevant?
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Posted on Thursday, February 13, 2014 - 9:39 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Balin:
Is the rope attached between the two planes? No. Is someone tightrope-walking across the rope? No.

Galfisk:
Does Kyle think a plane will crash? Yes. Disintegrate? No. Stop functioning? Noish. Does he think that something will come loose from the plane? No. That something will open? No. Are they on an airplane? Yes. Parachuting relevant? No.
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Posted on Thursday, February 13, 2014 - 11:47 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does he think the rope should be attached to a control surface? Relevant what kind of plane they are on? Was the rope dropped: inside the plane? Out of the plane? Did it completely leave the plane?
Crash by: descending into the ground? Going out of control? Hitting a mountain, building or tower? Being impossible to land safely? Running out of fuel? Is the landing gear relevant?
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Posted on Thursday, February 13, 2014 - 1:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does he think the rope should be attached to a control surface? Relevant what kind of plane they are on? Was the rope dropped: inside the plane? Out of the plane? Did it completely leave the plane?
Crash by: descending into the ground? Going out of control? Hitting a mountain, building or tower? Being impossible to land safely? Running out of fuel? Is the landing gear relevant?
Redwine (Redwine)
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Posted on Friday, February 14, 2014 - 11:12 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Galfisk:
Does he think the rope should be attached to a control surface? Yes. Relevant what kind of plane they are on? I don't know much about planes, I imagine ordinary passenger airplane. Was the rope dropped: inside the plane? Yes. Out of the plane? No. Did it completely leave the plane? No.
Crash by: descending into the ground? Possibly. Going out of control? Yes. Hitting a mountain, building or tower? Possibly. Being impossible to land safely? Less likely. Running out of fuel? No. Is the landing gear relevant? No.
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Control surface: rudder? Elevator? Aileron? Flaps? Relevant? Does Kyle know much about airplanes? does John? Has Kyle fooled John into thinking the rope is very, very important?
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Posted on Friday, February 14, 2014 - 3:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I mean: Has John fooled Kyle into thinking the rope is very, very important?
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Posted on Monday, February 17, 2014 - 8:44 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Galfisk:
Control surface: rudder? Elevator? Aileron? Flaps? Relevant? I don't know which one, so probably not relevant. Does Kyle know much about airplanes? No. does John? Yes, why? Has Kyle fooled John into thinking the rope is very, very important? Kyle did not fool John.

I mean: Has John fooled Kyle into thinking the rope is very, very important? YES!
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Posted on Monday, February 17, 2014 - 8:55 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is John flying the plane? Or is he a mechanic? Did he tell Kyle he needed to use the rope to steer? Did he tell Kyle it was very dangerous to drop the rope? Relevant why he's doing this? Or does he just enjoy playing pranks? Is the relation between John and Kyle relevant?
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Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2014 - 11:00 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Galfisk:
Is John flying the plane? Yes. Or is he a mechanic? Did he tell Kyle he needed to use the rope to steer? Yes. Did he tell Kyle it was very dangerous to drop the rope? Yesish. Relevant why he's doing this? He does it just as a prank, but he uses a certain opportunity to make this prank. Or does he just enjoy playing pranks? Yes. Is the relation between John and Kyle relevant? No.

That's more or less the whole story, just some details are missing.
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Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2014 - 2:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Should Kyle have known better? Is Kyle's profession relevant? Is he a reporter? Was the incident recorded and/or broadcast? Did it have unfortunate consequences for John after the fact? For Kyle?
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Posted on Monday, February 24, 2014 - 2:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Galfisk:
Should Kyle have known better? I'd say he should. Is Kyle's profession relevant? No. Is he a reporter? Was the incident recorded and/or broadcast? No. Did it have unfortunate consequences for John after the fact? No. For Kyle? No.
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Posted on Friday, February 28, 2014 - 1:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

As there seem to be no more interest in this puzzle and most of it is done, I'm going to spoyle it after the weekend, if there are no more questions.
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Posted on Monday, March 03, 2014 - 8:55 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

******SPOILER*********

This is one of the pilots' pranks I read about recently.
John is a pilot of a passenger airplane. During flight he leaves the cockpit to go to the toilet. He keeps two edges of a long rope in his hands, the rest of the rope remains in cockpit. He handles the edges of the rope to the passenger, Kyle. John tells Kyle to keep the rope in the given position, as it's attached to the steers of the plane and keeps it on track.
John comes back, takes the rope back from Kyle and drops it on the floor. Kyle faints.


Thanks for playing, especially Galfisk for really lots of good work here.

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