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Nimue (Nimue)
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I recently discovered that I had a passive scrund about Great Britain's royal family. (A passive scrund is a scrund you never even thought about until you learn something surprising & realize that you have been assuming the opposite.) What is it??
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Elizabeth II relevant? her ancestors? her husband? her sister? her children? her grandchildren?

Succession to the throne relevant?
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Elizabeth II relevant?yes her ancestors? I'm not sure her husband?yes her sister? yes her children? yes her grandchildren?no

Succession to the throne relevant? no
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Is the name Windsor relevant? Or any other name associated with the royal family, e.g. Mountbatten?
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Is the name Windsor relevant? no Or any other name associated with the royal family, e.g. Mountbatten? no
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Are their titles relevant?
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Are their titles relevant? no
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Ah - so, the relevant parties are:

HM The Queen
HRH The Duke of Edinburgh (Prince Philip)
HRH The Prince of Wales (Prince Charles)
HRH The Princess Royal (Princess Anne)
HRH The Duke of York (Prince Andrew)
HRH The Earl of Wessex (Prince Edward)

and the late Countess of Snowdon (HRH Princess Margaret).

Is anyone else relevant? Viscount Linley (The Queen's nephew)? Lady Sarah Chatto (the Queen's niece)? Their respective children?

Are the royal in-laws relevant? Diana, Princess of Wales? The Duchess of Cornwall (Camilla)? Sarah, Duchess of York? Mark Phillips? Timothy Laurence? HRH the Countess of Wessex (Sophie)?

Are any of the Queen's cousins relevant, or their spouses and children?
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Ah - so, the relevant parties are:

HM The Queen
HRH The Duke of Edinburgh (Prince Philip)
HRH The Prince of Wales (Prince Charles)
HRH The Princess Royal (Princess Anne)
HRH The Duke of York (Prince Andrew)
HRH The Earl of Wessex (Prince Edward)

and the late Countess of Snowdon (HRH Princess Margaret).

Is anyone else relevant? Viscount Linley (The Queen's nephew)? Lady Sarah Chatto (the Queen's niece)? Their respective children?

Are the royal in-laws relevant? Diana, Princess of Wales? The Duchess of Cornwall (Camilla)? Sarah, Duchess of York? Mark Phillips? Timothy Laurence? HRH the Countess of Wessex (Sophie)?

Are any of the Queen's cousins relevant, or their spouses and children? Anyone who lives in Buckingham Place or often visits as a family member is relevant.
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"...the weekday home of the Queen and Prince Philip but also the London residence of the Duke of York and the Earl and Countess of Wessex." (Which means Viscount Severn and Lady Louise, as well, and probably TRH Princess Beatrice and Princess Eugenie of York when they're not abroad)

Plus the offices of the Royal Household and the workplace of 450 people.

So is the scrund about Buckingham Palace itself, rather than a particular member of the Royal Family?
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"...the weekday home of the Queen and Prince Philip but also the London residence of the Duke of York and the Earl and Countess of Wessex." (Which means Viscount Severn and Lady Louise, as well, and probably TRH Princess Beatrice and Princess Eugenie of York when they're not abroad)

Plus the offices of the Royal Household and the workplace of 450 people.

So is the scrund about Buckingham Palace itself yope, rather than a particular member of the Royal Family It's not about any particular member of the royal family?
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Did you think that the royal family lived in Buckingham Palace all the time? Was the scrund about who exactly resides in Buckingham Palace? About how much of the extended family lives together?
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Did you think that the royal family lived in Buckingham Palace all the time? no Was the scrund about who exactly resides in Buckingham Palace? noish or yope About how much of the extended family lives together? no
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HINT: The scrund concerns palace servants.
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Was it about how many servants they have? Who the servants are? Where they live? What their duties are?
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Was it about how many servants they have? Who the servants are? Where they live? What their duties are? no to all!!
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Is it about their payment/benefits? The nature of their relationship to their employers and/or guests? Any other details of their contract? Their privity to information?
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Is it about their payment/benefits? no The nature of their relationship to their employers and/or guests? noish or yope Any other details of their contract? no Their privity to information? no
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RECAP & HINT: Add the following to the puzzle statement: The scrund involves a background fact about royal servants.
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How they are chosen/hired? How much of a role they have in the royals' daily life? Security?
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How they are chosen/hired? yope or yesish How much of a role they have in the royals' daily life? no Security? no
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Are very few of them British citizens? Or have some other demographic oddity about them?
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Are very few of them British citizens? irrelOr have some other demographic oddity about them? yes or yesish
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Are they not royalist? Not racially Britons? Not Anglicans? Not something else considered quintessentially British or royalist? And the royal household does not look for this trait even though you would assume it would?

Are they allergic to Corgis? Or anti-fox-hunting?
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Is the royal household administered by a foreign company?

Anything to do with Eire (as opposed to Northern Ireland)?
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Are they not royalist? Not racially Britons? Not Anglicans? Not something else considered quintessentially British or royalist? And the royal household does not look for this trait even though you would assume it would? no to all!!

Are they allergic to Corgis? no Or anti-fox-hunting? no
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Is the royal household administered by a foreign company? not that I know of

Anything to do with Eire (as opposed to Northern Ireland)? no
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Are they directly chosen by the royals rather than by some overarching administration?
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Are they directly chosen by the royals rather than by some overarching administration? irrel
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Demographic oddity: age? Gender? Race? Ancestry? Religious views? Political views? Professions?
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Demographic oddity: age? Gender? Race? Ancestry? Religious views? Political views? Professions? no to all!!!!
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HINT: It's a different demographic group: keep trying!!
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Level of education? Wealth? Family status?
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Anything to do with clothing? Or the specific tasks undertaken by the staff?

Anything to do with who hires them?

Demographics: Languages spoken? Where they live? (If so, on site? Nearby? Do the staff commute?} Where they are trained?
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Anything to do with clothing? no Or the specific tasks undertaken by the staff? no

Anything to do with who hires them? no

Demographics: Languages spoken? noWhere they live? no(If so, on site? Nearby? Do the staff commute?} Where they are trained? no
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Marital status? Sexual orientation? Anything genetic? Anything to do with their families?

Could they be considered a "niche market" by advertisers?(if there were enough of them)?
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Are they Jacobites?
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Marital status? see next answer Sexual orientation? yesAnything genetic? see previous answer Anything to do with their families? see previous answer but one

Could they be considered a "niche market" by advertisers? yes(if there were enough of them)?
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Are they Jacobites? irrel

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