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Infidelity has led to an argument between a man and his sister. What is going on?
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Infidelity in the sexual sense? or otherwise?
His infidelity to his wife? Hers to her husband? Both? Neither? Simply the idea of infidelity?

Is this contemporary? Historical? If the latter, LTPF list of centuries, please.
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When I was typing the above, I saw a pop-up advertising 'Printable Bible Games.' Which leads naturally to the thought that there could be unprintable Bible games. Dear, dear!
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Infidelity in the sexual sense? This or otherwise?
His infidelity to his wife? No, but you're OTRT Hers to her husband? Ditto Both? Neither? See above Simply the idea of infidelity? Actual infidelity

Is this contemporary? Yes. It could happen today, but I believe it was around 1990-ish. Historical? See above If the latter, LTPF list of centuries, please.
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The infidelity of their spouses?

Is this RL? fiction? If RL, prominent persons, someone we might have heard of? Or just ordinary Joe/Joan Sixpacks?
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The infidelity of their spouses? Yes

Is this RL? Yes fiction? If RL, prominent persons, someone we might have heard of? Or just ordinary Joe/Joan Sixpacks? This

I think I remember someone calling it in on a radio talk show. It's nobody I know
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The infidelity of the brother's wife? the sister's husband? both? was brother or sister unhappy because the sibling had called the radio talk show?
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The infidelity of the brother's wife? the sister's husband? both? This was brother or sister unhappy because the sibling had called the radio talk show? Irrelevant. Argument started before brother called the show.
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Were the brother's wife and sister's husband having an affair?
Were both siblings disapproving of their spouses' infidelity?
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Were the brother's wife and sister's husband having an affair? Yes
Were both siblings disapproving of their spouses' infidelity? Yes

Now you need to figure out what the argument was about
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Just to clarify, were they having an affair with each other? Separately? With the other sibling?
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Just to clarify, were they having an affair with each other? Separately? With the other sibling?
Let's use names to make it clearer. Let's say Don and Lana are the brother and sister. Don's wife had an affair with Lana's husband
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Did Don do something Lana did not approve of? Did Lana do something Don didn't approve of? Both?

Did Don react to the affair with anger? Depression? Denial? Want for revenge? Forgiveness? Want to fix things with his wife?
Same questions for Lana.
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Did Don do something Lana did not approve of? Noish Did Lana do something Don didn't approve of? It's more that (at the time of the argument) Lana wanted to do something Don doesn't approve of Both?

Did Don react to the affair with anger? Mostly, this Depression? Denial? Want for revenge? Forgiveness? No Want to fix things with his wife? No
Unsure about the rest

Did Lana react to the affair with anger? This at first Depression? Denial? Want for revenge? Forgiveness? This, later Want to fix things with her husband? This too, later
Again, unsure about the rest
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Did Don not want Lana working things our with her husband? Did Lana decide it was okay for her hubby and Don's wife to sleep together?
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Did Don not want Lana working things our with her husband? Not quite. But if Lana didn't work things out with her husband, the argument would never have happened Did Lana decide it was okay for her hubby and Don's wife to sleep together? No
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Did the argument pertain to finances? Morals? Children (if there are any involved)? Legal matters?
Did Lana cut ties with Don's wife? Did Don want her to?
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Did the argument pertain to finances? Morals? Yope Children (if there are any involved)? Legal matters? No to rest
Did Lana cut ties with Don's wife? Actually, Don did this. He divorced his wife. She was already out of the picture before the argument took place Did Don want her to? Lana had no choice in this matter
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Okay, so Don divorced his wife, but Lana wanted to work crap out with her husband. Don did not like this? Was he angry for another reason related to this? Was Lana angry at Don?
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Okay, so Don divorced his wife, but Lana wanted to work crap out with her husband. Don did not like this? He didn't like it, but accepted it Was he angry for another reason related to this? Yes Was Lana angry at Don? Yes, but she wouldn't be angry if he weren't angry
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Would the average person be angry for the same reason? Would Lana be angry if Don did whatever it was?
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Would the average person be angry for the same reason? I'm not sure. Some would and some would not Would Lana be angry if Don did whatever it was? Please rephrase. I'm not sure I understand this question
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Did Don disapprove the way Lana choose to fix matters with her husband? Did Lana, fixing matters with her husband, do something that hurt Don?
Did Don and Lana previously agreed to both divorce their spouses and later Lana decided to do something else?
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Married names and maiden names relevant?
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Did Don disapprove the way Lana choose to fix matters with her husband? Not exactly Did Lana, fixing matters with her husband, do something that hurt Don? This indirectly led to
something else that hurt Don

Did Don and Lana previously agreed to both divorce their spouses and later Lana decided to do something else? No

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Married names and maiden names relevant? No

Hint: The argument occurred a few years after the affair and divorce
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Did Don's wife and Lana's husband have another affairs years after their first? Did Lana's husband have another affair at all? Did Don think he had?
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Did Don's wife and Lana's husband have another affairs years after their first? No Did Lana's husband have another affair at all? Not that I know of Did Don think he had? Not that I know of
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Hint: There is a fifth relevant person
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Is the fifth person a child? Female? Male?
Related to Don or Lana? Related to either of their spouses? Don's new wife (assuming he remarried)?
A therapist? A lawyer? Career of fifth person relevant?
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Is the fifth person a child? No Female? This Male?
Related to Don or Lana? Related to either of their spouses? Don's new wife (assuming he remarried)? This
A therapist? A lawyer? Career of fifth person relevant? Career irrelevant
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Is Don at all worried Lana's husband will try to have an affair with his new wife? Is Don afraid he already did?
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********BLOOPER***********
Actually the fifth person involved is Don's new girlfriend, not wife. Sorry about the mistake. I will slightly modify Konnie's questions accordingly


Is Don at all worried Lana's husband will try to have an affair with his new girlfriend? No Is Don afraid he already did? No
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Is Don at all angry at his girlfriend? At Lana's husband (other than from initial affair)? Only at Lana?

You said earlier that Lana fixing things with her husband indirectly hurt Don. Did them patching up things cause any trouble between Don and his gf?

Were Don's gf and Lana's husband at all familiar with each other? Has Don's gf cheated on him with anyone?
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Is Don at all angry at his girlfriend? No At Lana's husband (other than from initial affair)? Noish Only at Lana? Yesish

You said earlier that Lana fixing things with her husband indirectly hurt Don. Did them patching up things cause any trouble between Don and his gf? No

Were Don's gf and Lana's husband at all familiar with each other? Probably Has Don's gf cheated on him with anyone? Probably not
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Another Hint: Notice, that I mentioned that the fifth relevant person is Don's new girlfriend. The fact that she's not Don's wife is very important.
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Has Don been dating his new girlfriend for a long time? Since the divorce? Since before the divorce? Was he cheating on his ex-wife with her?
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Has Don been dating his new girlfriend for a long time? Not sure. assume about 2 years Since the divorce? assume about 1 year passed after the divorce when they started dating Since before the divorce? No Was he cheating on his ex-wife with her? No
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Does Don's new girlfriend not want to become his wife because he is divorced? Does she approve Lana fixing things with her husband?
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Does Don want to marry his gf? Does she want to marry him?

Are they planning on getting married? Does Don or his gf not want Lana or Lana's husband to attend the wedding?
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Does Don's new girlfriend not want to become his wife because he is divorced? She's ok with that Does she approve Lana fixing things with her husband? She's ok with that too

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Does Don want to marry his gf? Does she want to marry him? Yes to both

Are they planning on getting married? Yes Does Don or his gf not want Lana or Lana's husband to attend the wedding? Don doesn't want Lana's husband to attend. Well done!!!
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******************SPOILER**********

Don and Lana are brother and sister. Several years before the argument takes place, Don's wife has an affair with Lana's husband. Don divorces his wife, but Lana works things out with her husband.
A few years later, Don has a new girlfriend and they are engaged. Don still has not forgiven Lana's husband and wants Lana to attend the wedding without him. Lana disagrees strongly. This is what the argument is about.

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