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Konnie (Konnie)
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My last two puzzles went ridiculously quickly. Let's all hope this one's tougher. Check out my "Let's try this", which is still unsolved.
At a New York airport luggage carousal, Wendy strikes up conversation with Rachel. Rachel tries to avoid speaking to her, but Wendy insists on making conversation while they wait for their bags. Rachel takes a cab home and Wendy boards a plane to Dublin. A week later, Rachel dies at home.
What happened and why?
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Do Wendy and Rachel know each other? Was Rachel murdered? Was it a suicide? Is the fact it was New York relevant? Is Dublin relevant? Did Wendy board a plane within a couple of hours after she got her bags?

When they're at the carousel did Rachel just fly to New York? Did Wendy? If yes to both, were they on the same plane?
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Do Wendy and Rachel know each other? Yope Was Rachel murdered? Yes Was it a suicide? Is the fact it was New York relevant? Is Dublin relevant? Actual locations are irrelevant, just that they're far away. Did Wendy board a plane within a couple of hours after she got her bags? Yes

When they're at the carousel did Rachel just fly to New York? Yes Did Wendy? No If yes to both, were they on the same plane?
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At the carousel, was Wendy mining Rachel for personal information? Did she acquire information about her address? Her finances? Is Rachel's cab followed?

Are either of them spies? Gangsters? Private detectives?
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At the carousel, was Wendy mining Rachel for personal information? Probably not, the actual discussion is irrelevant. Did she acquire information about her address? Her finances? Is Rachel's cab followed? No to these.
Are either of them spies? Gangsters? Private detectives? Haha, no, but that'd be interesting.
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Does Wendy recognise Rachel as a target? Was this a chance encounter? Has Wendy been commissioned to do whatever it is she achieved by striking up the conversation?

Is there a reason Rachel avoids speaking to Wendy that goes beyond shyness, introversion or just not wanting to speak to a stranger? Does Rachel say anything that leads to her being murdered? Does the very fact that she speaks lead to her being murdered?

Does Wendy murder Rachel? Does an accomplice murder Rachel? Does someone who commissioned Wendy (if applicable) murder Rachel?

Do they both leave with their own, correct luggage? Relevant?
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Does Wendy recognise Rachel as a target? Yes Was this a chance encounter? No Has Wendy been commissioned to do whatever it is she achieved by striking up the conversation? No

Is there a reason Rachel avoids speaking to Wendy that goes beyond shyness, introversion or just not wanting to speak to a stranger? Yes Does Rachel say anything that leads to her being murdered? No Does the very fact that she speaks lead to her being murdered? Noish.

Does Wendy murder Rachel? Yes Does an accomplice murder Rachel? Does someone who commissioned Wendy (if applicable) murder Rachel? No to these.

Do they both leave with their own, correct luggage? Relevant? Yes, irrelevant.
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Is Wendy a criminal? An assassin?

Is Rachel a criminal? Someone under witness protection? A public figure?

Was Wendy trying to establish Rachel's identity by talking to her?

Does Wendy have a personal vendetta against Rachel due to their shared history or an event in their mutual past?
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Is Wendy a criminal? Only because she murdered Rachel An assassin? No

Is Rachel a criminal? Someone under witness protection? A public figure? No to all

Was Wendy trying to establish Rachel's identity by talking to her? No, she knew it was Rachel.

Does Wendy have a personal vendetta against Rachel due to their shared history or an event in their mutual past? Yes
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If they had not met at the airport, would Wendy still have killed Rachel? Would she have killed her earlier? Later? At a different location?

Did she need information as to where she would be and when? That there would be nobody around to witness or thwart the murder? Is the method of murder relevant?
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If they had not met at the airport, would Wendy still have killed Rachel? Yes Would she have killed her earlier? Later? Probably this. At a different location? Wendy could have tried to meet her somewhwere else, but Rachel would have still died at home.
Did she need information as to where she would be and when? Wendy got it before executing the plan, if that's what you mean. That there would be nobody around to witness or thwart the murder? Yope Is the method of murder relevant? Yes!
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Did Rachel have a pacemaker? Was hacking involved in the murder?
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Did Rachel have a pacemaker? No, but good thinking. Was hacking involved in the murder? No.
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Had Rachel done something to harm Wendy?
Was she having an affair with Wendy's husband?
Had she stolen money from Wendy?
Before they talked, did Wendy know where Rachel lived?
Did Wendy talk to anyone relevant after talking to Rachel?
Does Wendy use a weapon for the murder? Just her bare hands?
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Had Rachel done something to harm Wendy? No
Was she having an affair with Wendy's husband? Opposite of this.
Had she stolen money from Wendy?
Before they talked, did Wendy know where Rachel lived? Yes
Did Wendy talk to anyone relevant after talking to Rachel? No
Does Wendy use a weapon for the murder? Yes, slightly DOYD. Just her bare hands?
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Was Wendy in New York when Rachel died? In Dublin?
Was Rachel in New York when she died? In Dublin?

It sounds like Wendy is or was having an affair with Rachel's husband. Correct?

Was Rachel's husband in on the murder?
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Was Wendy in New York when Rachel died? In Dublin? Wendy was in Dublin.
Was Rachel in New York when she died? In Dublin? Rachel was in New York.

It sounds like Wendy is or was having an affair with Rachel's husband. Correct? Yes, this is all that's relevant for motive.

Was Rachel's husband in on the murder? No
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At the moment when Wendy and Rachel met at the airport:
- did Wendy already want to murder Rachel?
- did Wendy already have plan for this murder?
- had Wendy already done something to murder Rachel?

Had Wendy visited Rachel's house before they met at the airport? Did Wendy set a sort of trap in Rachel's house?
Could Rachel have died somewhere else than at home in Wendy's scenario? Could Rachel have died earlier than a week after meeting in Wendy's scenario? Later than week after meeting in Wendy's scenario?
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Was Rachel poisoned? Killed by a bomb?

Is it relevant whether Rachel lives in an apartment or a private house? (If she lives in Manhattan, it's most likely an apartment) If it is relevant, does she live in an apartment? private house?

Did anyone else die in this scenario? If so, were they at Rachel's home at the time? (Or if she lives in an apartment, were they in her building if not her home?)

If anyone else were at Rachel's home at the time of her death, would he or she have died as well?
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At the moment when Wendy and Rachel met at the airport:
- did Wendy already want to murder Rachel? Yes
- did Wendy already have plan for this murder? Yes
- had Wendy already done something to murder Rachel? Part of the plan was enacted already.

Had Wendy visited Rachel's house before they met at the airport? Yes Did Wendy set a sort of trap in Rachel's house? Yesish.
Could Rachel have died somewhere else than at home in Wendy's scenario? Possibly, but it's highly unlikely. Could Rachel have died earlier than a week after meeting in Wendy's scenario? Yes Later than week after meeting in Wendy's scenario? Yes

Was Rachel poisoned? This Killed by a bomb?

Is it relevant whether Rachel lives in an apartment or a private house? (If she lives in Manhattan, it's most likely an apartment) If it is relevant, does she live in an apartment? private house? Irrelevant

Did anyone else die in this scenario? No If so, were they at Rachel's home at the time? (Or if she lives in an apartment, were they in her building if not her home?)

If anyone else were at Rachel's home at the time of her death, would he or she have died as well? Most likely not
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On the day that Rachel died, did she know at any time that Wendy was at her house? Did she let Wendy into her house?

After the meeting at the airport, did Rachel assume that she would never see Wendy again? Or did she expect to see Wendy again soon? Did she expect Wendy to be coming to her house soon?
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On the day that Rachel died, did she know at any time that Wendy was at her house? No Did she let Wendy into her house? {No}

After the meeting at the airport, did Rachel assume that she would never see Wendy again? Yes Or did she expect to see Wendy again soon? No Did she expect Wendy to be coming to her house soon? No
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Is the specific method of poisoning relevant? Had Wendy tampered with the food and/or beverages in Rachel's house? The water supply? The gas mains or heating systems?

Did she perform some action that would make Rachel eventually more likely to fall foul of her trap? (For somewhat far-fetched example: Make Rachel thirsty by talking to her so she would go home and immediately quaff the poisoned orange juice in the fridge)?
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Is the specific method of poisoning relevant? Yes Had Wendy tampered with the food and/or beverages in Rachel's house? No, but this is closest. The water supply? The gas mains or heating systems?

Did she perform some action that would make Rachel eventually more likely to fall foul of her trap? Yes (For somewhat far-fetched example: Make Rachel thirsty by talking to her so she would go home and immediately quaff the poisoned orange juice in the fridge)? No to this, but very OTRT.
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Was Rachel eventually killed by eating something? Drinking something?

Did she inadvertently put the poison in her mouth? Was it put on her false teeth? The seal of a stamp or envelope?

Did Wendy add poison to an existing item in Rachel's house or plant a poisoned item there?
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Did Wendy taint some edible food or liquid while outside Rachel's house that she knew would be taken into the house and used by Rachel?

Did she give poisoned food to Rachel's husband?
Did she go to Rachel's house to see Rachel's husband, and while she was there she added poison to something she knew Rachel would ingest?
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Is poison over the counter medication involved? poison prescription medication?
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Is poison over the counter medication involved? Yes! poison prescription medication?
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Did you see my previous q's?
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Sorry for overlooking Ixoye and WiZ!

Was Rachel eventually killed by eating something? Drinking something? This

Did she inadvertently put the poison in her mouth? Yesish Was it put on her false teeth? The seal of a stamp or envelope? Neither of these.

Did Wendy add poison to an existing item in Rachel's house or plant a poisoned item there? Added it to existing item.

Did Wendy taint some edible food or liquid while outside Rachel's house that she knew would be taken into the house and used by Rachel? It was already at Rachel's home.

Did she give poisoned food to Rachel's husband? No
Did she go to Rachel's house to see Rachel's husband, and while she was there she added poison to something she knew Rachel would ingest? Yes!
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Did Wendy poison Rachel's prescription cold medication before the meeting at the airport?

Did Wendy have a cold and try to get Rachel to catch it so she would take the poison sooner?
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On previous post, I mean "over-the-counter" not "prescription"
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Or did Wendy go to Rachel's house, see Rachel's husband but also bring some kind of poison with the intent of putting it into some kind of medication that she knew Rachel would use?

Was Rachel's husband an accomplice? Did he say anything that let Wendy know that Rachel used certain medication?
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Did Wendy poison Rachel's prescription cold medication before the meeting at the airport? Yes

Did Wendy have a cold and try to get Rachel to catch it so she would take the poison sooner? Yes!

Or did Wendy go to Rachel's house, see Rachel's husband but also bring some kind of poison with the intent of putting it into some kind of medication that she knew Rachel would use? Yes

Was Rachel's husband an accomplice? No Did he say anything that let Wendy know that Rachel used certain medication? No

And there you have it!

SPOLIER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Wendy was having an affair with Rachel's husband, and when he said he had no intentions of leaving Rachel, Wendy freaked. On her last 'visit' with him before her trip to Dublin, she laced cold medicine in Rachel's drug cabinet with poison. Wendy worked very hard to catch a cold, then struck up conversation at the airport. Rachel tried to avoid the clearly sick woman, but Wendy hacked, weezed, and sneezed all over her. Rachel soon became sick and after taking her medicine for a few days, died from the poison. Cops at first suspect Rachel's husband, but after he describes Wendy's rage, they put the two and two together.

Great work, everyone! Especially Paul for pulling it all together.

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