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Solo1 (Solo1)
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Posted on Friday, February 28, 2014 - 4:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Barack Obama is the first President to have this characteristic, unfortunately for him.
It almost happened once before, but the man in question managed to evade it.
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Wow, so many possibilities here, and so many openings for jokes...

Is it related to him, specifically? Or to his position as president?

Did the previous person evade the characteristic by not getting elected? By not getting re-elected?
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Well I pretty much gotta participate in this one, huh?

Was "the man in question" President at the time? Was he running for President at the time? Was he ever President?

Is it safe to say that Obama would prefer that he didn't have this characteristic, politically speaking?
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Ah, actually I think I just came across the answer. I'll email a spoiler.
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Is it related to him, specifically? YesOr to his position as president? no

Did the previous person evade the characteristic by not getting elected? No, he was elected. By not getting re-elected? n.r.

Is it safe to say that Obama would prefer that he didn't have this characteristic, politically speaking? I'm not sure if he even realizes he has it, but if he does, he would probably rather not.

Was "the man in question" President at the time? When he evaded this fate? No. Was he running for President at the time? No. was he ever President? Yes
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Posted on Friday, February 28, 2014 - 8:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Alex, you're OTWT. Clue: it's not anything he did, either personally or politically.
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Physical characteristic? Looks relevant?
Personality trait? Speech trait?
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Physical characteristic? Looks relevant?
Personality trait? Speech trait? No to all. More what you might call an 'external.
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Something about his family? Ancestors?
Geography relevant? Previos jobs/hobbies relevant?
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Something about his family? Yessish. Both his parents had this characteristic, though of course they were not president. It is not genetic. Beware FA. Ancestors? IDK about any previous ancestors, so n.r.
Geography relevant? Previos jobs/hobbies relevant? No to both.
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Is his name relevant? Would the president who came close be Eisenhower, who legally switched his first and middle names when he was young? And "David Eisenhower" would have had the characteristic?
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Is Van Buren the other president who has this in common?
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Is his name relevant? Yes/yessishWould the president who came close be Eisenhower, who legally switched his first and middle names when he was young? You are very much OTRT, but Eisenhower is not the other one. And "David Eisenhower" would have had the characteristic? no; n.r.
Is Van Buren the other president who has this in common? No, but I'm curious. What were you thinking of?
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Is it initials rather than name? Or nicknames? how about shortening his name for that matter? He was briefly known as Barry Obama wasn't he?

Is the other president Jack Kennedy?
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Is the first name relevant? the middle name? the last name? the initials?
Did the other president did actively do something in order to evade the same fate? or, rather, did just something happen? (and if the latter: did he know at all that he has this characteristic?)
Did he lose this characteristic before becoming president? before running for presidency?
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Is it initials rather than name? Yes; the rest n.r.

Is the other president Jack Kennedy? No; earlier.

Did the other president did actively do something in order to evade the same fate? Yes
Did he lose this characteristic before becoming president? before running for presidency? Yes to both.
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Posted on Monday, March 03, 2014 - 8:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the other president...

Ulysses S Grant? Grover Cleveland? Woodrow Wilson? Calvin Coolidge? Gerald Ford? Bill Clinton?

I chose these because they all changed their names at some point (So did Eisenhower, but you already said it's not him)
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Was the other president....

Ulysses S Grant? Yes! Explore.
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Relevant that Grant's actual initials spelled H.U.G.?

Obama's initials spell B.H.O. Relevant that this is the shortened version of butane hash oil (which comes from marajuana)?
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Relevant that Grant's actual initials spelled H.U.G.? Yes, very relevant!

Obama's initials spell B.H.O. Relevant that this is the shortened version of butane hash oil (which comes from marijuana? That's even more relevant!

************SPOILER***********
Barack Obama is our first president to have initials that spell out or stand for something rather embarrassing, either butane hash oil, as Konnie suggests, or in the shortened form, body odour, as Sundowner posited.

Grant changed his name before he headed for West Point, because he realized what his classmates would do with the initials. He picked Ulysses Simpson Grant, which had a much more positive image: USG.
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Ahhh, ok. I was thinking about the "B.O" thing, but had no idea that Grant had changed his name. The reason I asked about Van Buren was related to his ancestry and citizenship. MVB was the first US president to be born in the United States and the first not of British or Irish descent (his family was Dutch). I remember that during a discussion about Obama's ancestry and birthplace there was mention of past US presidents with unique details about their birthplace and ancestry, and Van Buren was mentioned with regards to his unique background.

Good puzzle.
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Thanks!
Regarding what I said about his parents, they also had this characteristic. His father had the same name, and his mother's birth name was Stanley Ann Dunham = SAD.
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I don't know.... I think Millard Fillmore's initials are quite embarrassing
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Oh, I forgot about him. Eminently forgettable, I'm afraid.

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