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Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
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Posted on Friday, February 28, 2014 - 11:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

My professor recently mentioned that he has a certain trait. He says that him having this trait proves helpful to both himself and others on certain occasions. I could have figured out on my own that he had this trait if I gave it some thought, but I never did. Then I realized that I have this trait as well. It wouldn't be as helpful to me as it would be for my professor, but it still might come in handy at times.

Barack Obama also has this trait, as has every Democratic President for the past 40 years. However, no Republican president in over three-quarters of a century has had it. That being said, this quality would, while not being unhelpful for the President of the United States, probably not help him that much either. What is it?
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So if we go back 75 years of presidents, as far as who has the trait, here is what we know and don't know

Franklin D Roosevelt Don't know
Harry S Truman Don't know
Dwight D Eisenhower No
John F Kennedy Don't know
Lyndon B Johnson Don't know
Richard M Nixon No
Gerald R Ford No
Jimmy Carter Yes
Ronald Reagan No
George HW Bush No
Bill Clinton Yes
George W Bush No
Barack Obama Yes

Are there any errors in the above table (other than misspelling names)?

just to fill in the gaps, did FDR have this trait? Truman? Kennedy? Lyndon Johnson?

For your professor is the trait helpful specifically for his job? For his teaching? For his research? Is it relevant what subject he is a professor of?
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Is it an inherit trait, or something he does? a habit e.g. smoking? Something imposed by others?
Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
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So if we go back 75 years of presidents, as far as who has the trait, here is what we know and don't know

Franklin D Roosevelt Don't know
Harry S Truman Don't know
Dwight D Eisenhower No
John F Kennedy Don't know
Lyndon B Johnson Don't know
Richard M Nixon No
Gerald R Ford No
Jimmy Carter Yes
Ronald Reagan No
George HW Bush No
Bill Clinton Yes
George W Bush No
Barack Obama Yes

Are there any errors in the above table (other than misspelling names)? This is correct

just to fill in the gaps, did FDR have this trait? No Truman? No Kennedy? Yes Lyndon Johnson? No

For your professor is the trait helpful specifically for his job? Not really. For his teaching? For his research? Is it relevant what subject he is a professor of? No to all.

Is it an inherit trait, Assuming you mean inherent, yes. or something he does? It could be due to deliberate action, though this is far less likely, and not true for my professor. a habit e.g. smoking? No Something imposed by others? Technically, yes.
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Are their first names relevant? middle names? Last names?
Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
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Are their first names relevant? Yes middle names? No Last names? Yes
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I don't see how names, which are given to you, can be an inherent trait.
However, the theory has been advanced that having interchangeable names can be an advantage for an academic. Relevant?
Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
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I don't see how names, which are given to you, can be an inherent trait. "Inherent" means "existing in something as a permanent, essential, or characteristic attribute." Unless you change your name, it's a permanent characteristic, and it's certainly essential.
However, the theory has been advanced that having interchangeable names can be an advantage for an academic. Relevant? No.
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Are their initials relevant? The fact that they have another meaning or are used in everyday speach. BO - Body Odour, JC Jesus Christ BC Before Christ. Struggling with Kennedy though. My kids tend to say JK when they are joking but I doubt that's it.

Any of this inane drivel relevant?
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Is the form in which the first name is written relevant? Would the trait be there for Bill Clinton? but not for William J Clinton?
Does every of the presidents who have this trait, have it per itself? or only in relationship to other presidents? (like: the last names of democratic presidents since James Carter are in increasing alphabetical order)
Alphabetical order relevant at all?
Number of letters in a name?
Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
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Are their initials relevant? The fact that they have another meaning or are used in everyday speach. BO - Body Odour, JC Jesus Christ BC Before Christ. Struggling with Kennedy though. My kids tend to say JK when they are joking but I doubt that's it.

Any of this inane drivel relevant? No

Is the form in which the first name is written relevant? Yes Would the trait be there for Bill Clinton? Yes but not for William J Clinton? It wouldn't.
Does every of the presidents who have this trait, have it per itself? Yes or only in relationship to other presidents? (like: the last names of democratic presidents since James Carter are in increasing alphabetical order) No
Alphabetical order relevant at all? Yes
Number of letters in a name? No
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Would Zeke Obama have the same trait? How about Alvin Obama? Would Barack America? Barack Zambia?

Would you be able to say whether a President had the trait knowing only their common names? If Obama's official birth name was Samantha but he went by Barack, would it make any difference?

Are any other people's names relevant to whether or not you have the trait? Are family member's names relevant?
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Would Zeke Obama have the same trait? Yes. How about Alvin Obama? Yes. Would Barack America? Yes Barack Zambia? No.

Would you be able to say whether a President had the trait knowing only their common names? Yes. If Obama's official birth name was Samantha but he went by Barack, would it make any difference? I don't know. My professor didn't go into that much detail when explaining the rule. But "Samantha Obama" would not have the trait. Whether this person would have the trait is hard to say. However, since "William Clinton" would not have this trait, but we've already established Bill Clinton did, I'm going to say it's the name you go by that counts for the sake of continuity.

Are any other people's names relevant to whether or not you have the trait? No Are family member's names relevant? No, other than their last name being your last name.
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Is it possible you could only heard someone's first name, and know whether or not they have the trait? Is it possible with the last name? Or is there some interplay between the two names?

Would it be possible for a person who went by one name to have this trait, like Madonna or Bono?
Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
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Is it possible you could only heard someone's first name, and know whether or not they have the trait? No Is it possible with the last name? No Or is there some interplay between the two names? Not really, but you still need to know them both.

Would it be possible for a person who went by one name to have this trait, like Madonna or Bono? If that was their legal name, yes.
Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
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Ok, this has had no action for 20 days so it's time for



****SPOILER****

My professor's name is Michael Braunstein. However, people have trouble spelling his name. They don't know if it's Micheal Braunstien, or something like that. So he tells them that whenever consecutive vowels or consonants appear in his name, they are in alphabetical order. Barack Obama also has this trait. Of course, people probably already know how to spell the President's name because he's pretty important.

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