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Doriana (Doriana)
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Shortly after moving to Germany, Nastya's parents realize they have wasted a lot of money.
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Relevant where they moved from? Exchange rates relevant?
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Relevant where they moved from? yes Exchange rates relevant? no
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Would it be safe to assume they came from Russia?

Did they spend a lot of money based off a false assumption about Germany? About life in Germany?
Doriana (Doriana)
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Would it be safe to assume they came from Russia? yes, although some other countries would work as well

Did they spend a lot of money based off a false assumption about Germany? About life in Germany? no to both
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Did they waste a lot of money in Russia (or some other country) that they could have saved if they had come to Germany (or some other country) earlier?
Doriana (Doriana)
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Did they waste a lot of money in Russia (or some other country) that they could have saved if they had come to Germany (or some other country) earlier? yes
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Is the black market relevant?
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Is the black market relevant? no
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Did they have to pay for being able to move to Germany? for permission to leave Russia? for permission to settle in Germany?
Earlier as in: a few months earlier? 1-2 years earlier? 20 years earlier? 50 years earlier? still as children, together with their parents?
As you mention only Nastya's parents? Did Nastya also move to Germany? move out of Russia? if so: before the parents? with them? later?
Did Nastya's parents move to Germany because they had relatives in Germany? because of a job in Germany? is any of them ethnical German? German citizen (already before the move to Germany)?
Did they have high costs of living in Russia? which they simply would have saved if they moved out earlier?
Doriana (Doriana)
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Did they have to pay for being able to move to Germany? for permission to leave Russia? for permission to settle in Germany? no to all
Earlier as in: a few months earlier? 1-2 years earlier? this 20 years earlier? 50 years earlier? still as children, together with their parents?
As you mention only Nastya's parents? Did Nastya also move to Germany? yes move out of Russia? if so: before the parents? with them? this later?
Did Nastya's parents move to Germany because they had relatives in Germany? unlikely because of a job in Germany? possibly is any of them ethnical German? unlikely German citizen (already before the move to Germany)? unlikely - the exact causes for moving are irrel
Did they have high costs of living in Russia? yope for very svv of "living" which they simply would have saved if they moved out earlier? same yope
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Is Nastya a H/A/F? A H/C/F?

Would they have come to the same conclusion if they moved to a country that wasn't Germany? If so, are there relatively few countries besides Germany that would have saved them the money?

Is Nastya important to how they could have saved money? Does it involve child-rearing? Education?
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Is Nastya a H/A/F? no A H/C/F? yes

Would they have come to the same conclusion if they moved to a country that wasn't Germany? see next answer If so, are there relatively few countries besides Germany that would have saved them the money? there are some countries where it would work, but I'm not sure how many exactly

Is Nastya important to how they could have saved money? very Does it involve child-rearing? yesish Education? yesish
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If they raised infant Nastya in Russia, and then moved before she was a toddler, would they have saved money? How about if they moved when she was a toddler? What if they moved before she was born? While she was in elementary school?

I guess what I'm asking is, is there a certain point in Nastya's life when they started "wasting money?" Were they wasting money for the entirety of Nastya's life?

Would all parents of children Nastya's age come to the same conclusion after moving from Russia to Germany? Or is there some other relevant detail?
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Is learning a new language relevant?
Doriana (Doriana)
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If they raised infant Nastya in Russia, and then moved before she was a toddler, would they have saved money? yes How about if they moved when she was a toddler? yes What if they moved before she was born? yes While she was in elementary school? they moved while she was in elementary school, so no

I guess what I'm asking is, is there a certain point in Nastya's life when they started "wasting money?" yes Were they wasting money for the entirety of Nastya's life? they started at a specific point

Would all parents of children Nastya's age come to the same conclusion after moving from Russia to Germany? no, good q! Or is there some other relevant detail? yes
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Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2014 - 5:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Doriana,

you missed my question. (Probably because my post was a minute before yours)
Doriana (Doriana)
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Is learning a new language relevant? yesish

Doriana,

you missed my question. (Probably because my post was a minute before yours) Sorry!
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Have they been planning to move to Germany for a long time? Did they learn German while still in Russia? Did they pay someone to teach Nastya to speak German?
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Is there something relevant about Nastya that made them waste money, but not other parents? Something relevant about the parents?

Is the point in Nastya's life where they started wasting money when she entered school? Any specific classes or lessons relevant?
Doriana (Doriana)
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Have they been planning to move to Germany for a long time? no, good q Did they learn German while still in Russia? no Did they pay someone to teach Nastya to speak German? no

Is there something relevant about Nastya that made them waste money, but not other parents? yes Something relevant about the parents? no

Is the point in Nastya's life where they started wasting money when she entered school? somewhat earlier, probably around age 4 or 5 Any specific classes or lessons relevant? not school classes, but somewhat ORTR
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Does Nastya have some kind of disability? Is it related to learning, language or speech?
Doriana (Doriana)
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Does Nastya have some kind of disability? yes, see next answer Is it related to learning, language or speech? it is related to speech
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Is this a kind of disability that makes trouble when speaking Russian but not while speaking German?
Doriana (Doriana)
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Is this a kind of disability that makes trouble when speaking Russian but not while speaking German? YES! Well done, time for the

********SPOILER********
Nastya is a 7-year-old Russian girl who started speech therapy at age 5 because she still couldn't roll her r's. Her family moves to Germany, and her parents realize they had wasted a lot of money because in German, you usually don't roll your r's, so Nastya underwent expensive speech therapy for nothing.


Based on a story I overheard on the bus, so I assume it's true. Thanks for playing, Paul, Hamilton, WiZ, Redwine et al! And please have a look at my two old puzzles as well as the new one I'm about to post.

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