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Redwine (Redwine)
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Posted on Monday, March 31, 2014 - 1:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

After doing an autopsy of a mouse, they charged Colin with murder.
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Colin = H/A/M?

Was Colin actually guilty of the murder?
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Doriana:
Colin = H/A/M? Yes.

Was Colin actually guilty of the murder? For the sake of this puzzle, assume yes. This is a true story and his trial starts soon, so he's innocent until proven guilty.
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Did the evidence reveal any evidence against Colin?

Relevant who was murdered?
Was the murder victim H/A/M? F? Was the murder victim a friend of Colin? family member? co-worker? spouse/partner?

Relevant how the person was murdered? Poisoning relevant?
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The mouse M/D/M (Mouse/Dead/Male)?
Was the mouse poisoned?
The victim of the murder H/D/M (Human/Dead/Male)?
Is the mouse somehow related to the victim's death?
Was the mouse present when the victim died? Did the mouse die in the same way?
Was the mouse eaten by a cat?
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Doriana:
Did the evidence reveal any evidence against Colin? I assume you meant "autopsy", in which case it's yesish.

Relevant who was murdered? Yes.
Was the murder victim H/A/M? F? Was the murder victim a friend of Colin? family member? co-worker? spouse/partner? His wife and children.

Relevant how the person was murdered? Yes. Poisoning relevant? No.

Sundowner:
The mouse M/D/M (Mouse/Dead/Male)? Dead mouse of unknown and irrelevant gender.
Was the mouse poisoned? Unknown.
The victim of the murder H/D/M (Human/Dead/Male)? One wife (HAF), four children (gender irrelevant).
Is the mouse somehow related to the victim's death? Yes.
Was the mouse present when the victim died? Yope. Did the mouse die in the same way? NO, and that's relevant.
Was the mouse eaten by a cat? No.
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Relevant how the mouse died? Where? when? Relevant where the victims died? When? Origins of the mouse relevant? If so: pet mouse? Pest? Innocent bystander?
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Galfisk:
Relevant how the mouse died? Noish. Where? No. when? Yes. Relevant where the victims died? Yes. When? Noish. Origins of the mouse relevant? No. If so: pet mouse? Pest? Innocent bystander?
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Victims died: in their own home? In someone else's home? In a hospital? In an ambulance? Outdoors? In a public place?
When the mouse died: after the victims? Before? At the same time? Is the time of the mouse's death relevant as to what time of the day it was? Or what time it was in relation to the time of death for the victims?
Did the victims die from: firearm? Explosive? Blunt force? Sharp force? Fall? Suffocation? Strangulation? Drug? Disease?
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Galfisk:
Victims died: in their own home? This, no to the rest. In someone else's home? In a hospital? In an ambulance? Hospital and ambulance would work as long as the cause of death remain the same. Outdoors? In a public place?
When the mouse died: after the victims? Before? This. At the same time? Is the time of the mouse's death relevant as to what time of the day it was? No. Or what time it was in relation to the time of death for the victims? Yes.
Did the victims die from: firearm? Explosive? Blunt force? Sharp force? Fall? Suffocation? Strangulation? Drug? Disease? No to these. Explosive is relatively OTRT.
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Mouse death before victims: seconds? Minutes? Hours? days? Weeks? Months? Years?
Did the victims die from their injuries: instantly? within minutes? Hours? Days?

Not explosive: exploding pressure vessel? Fire? Building collapse? Impact from a big object?
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Galfisk:
Mouse death before victims: seconds? Minutes? Hours? days? Hours or days. Weeks? Months? Years?
Did the victims die from their injuries: instantly? within minutes? Instantly or within minutes. Hours? Days?

Not explosive: exploding pressure vessel? Fire? This. Building collapse? Impact from a big object?
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Relevant how the fire was started? Where? When? Was the mouse involved in starting the fire? Was the mouse carcass damaged by the fire? Relevant? Did the autopsy of the mouse concern whether it had been alive at the time of the fire or not?
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Galfisk:
Relevant how the fire was started? Yes. Where? Yes. When? Only in relation to mouse's death. Was the mouse involved in starting the fire? No. Was the mouse carcass damaged by the fire? Yes. Relevant? Yes. Did the autopsy of the mouse concern whether it had been alive at the time of the fire or not? Yes, good question.
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Fire started using: lighter? Matches? Flammable liquid? Some time delay mechanism? Such as a candle burning down? Or a cigarette? Started using electricity? Fireworks? A blowtorch?
Started where: outside the house? On the roof? In the attic? Basement? Bedroom? Kitchen? Living room? In an appliance?
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Galfisk:
Fire started using: lighter? Matches? Flammable liquid? This is the most probable option. Some time delay mechanism? Such as a candle burning down? Or a cigarette? Started using electricity? Fireworks? A blowtorch?
Started where: outside the house? On the roof? In the attic? Basement? Bedroom? Kitchen? Living room? In an appliance? It's only relevant that it was inside the house.
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Was it a pet mouse? if so: was it kept in the house?
Did it die in the house? in the place where it was found later?
Did Colin mean to kill his wife? his children?
Was Colin near the house when the fire started? Did he call the fire brigade?
Did the fire start at night? at a time when usually the whole family is at home? including Colin?
Did the police ask Colin why he was not in the house when the fire started? why he did not make any attempt to rescue his family?
Did Colin's line of defence somehow involve the mouse? Did Colin claim that the mouse was alive when the fire started? that the mouse started the fire?
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Sundowner:
Was it a pet mouse? Unknown. if so: was it kept in the house? Unknown. Both are irrelevant.
Did it die in the house? Possibly, unknown. in the place where it was found later? NO, and that's relevant.
Did Colin mean to kill his wife? his children? Yes to both.
Was Colin near the house when the fire started? Possibly, unknown. Did he call the fire brigade? Ditto.
Did the fire start at night? That's very likely. at a time when usually the whole family is at home? Ditto. including Colin? Ditto.
Did the police ask Colin why he was not in the house when the fire started? Possibly, but not relevant. why he did not make any attempt to rescue his family? Possibly, but not relevant.
Did Colin's line of defence somehow involve the mouse? Yes. Did Colin claim that the mouse was alive when the fire started? Yes. that the mouse started the fire? Yes.
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Did Colin put the dead mouse there for an alibi? Did he claim he saw the mouse start the fire? Or that he otherwise knew?
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Galfisk:
Did Colin put the dead mouse there for an alibi? Yes. Did he claim he saw the mouse start the fire? Unlikely. Or that he otherwise knew? Possibly.

Colin also did something else to convince people that fire was started by the mouse.
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Did Colin cut some of the electrical wires to make it seem as if the mouse had chewed on them and gotten electrocuted while setting off a fire? And the mouse's body showed no sign of electrocution?
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Ixoye:
Did Colin cut some of the electrical wires to make it seem as if the mouse had chewed on them YES. and gotten electrocuted while setting off a fire? Unknown to this part. And the mouse's body showed no sign of electrocution? Mouse's body was burnt, but autopsy showed that mouse was dead when the fire started.

************SPOILER*********
Colin's wife and children died in their house's fire. Colin claimed that the fire started because mouse damaged electrical wires. There was indeed mouse's dead body found at the scene. However, the autopsy proved that the animal was already dead when the fire started. Colin was charged with murder.


The puzzle was based on the news flash. Later on, additional information showed up. The expertise proved that the fire started in several locations in the house at the same time, so it looks like arson. Also, Colin's family had very high life insurances. Colin still denies setting his house in fire. Trial starts soon.

Thanks for playing.
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Posted on Monday, April 07, 2014 - 4:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

That was a terrific puzzle idea.

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