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[Zanreo] Terrible luck

Postby Zanreo » Wed Aug 24, 2016 12:15 am

They made the same mistake 6 times in a row

Based on a true story I read
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Re: [Zanreo]Terrible luck

Postby CoffeeBean » Wed Aug 24, 2016 2:22 pm

Are "they" a group of people? A company? An organization? A society? Residents of the same area?
Is the time frame of the 6 mistakes relevant? Were they trying to accomplish something while making the mistakes?
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Re: [Zanreo]Terrible luck

Postby Zanreo » Wed Aug 24, 2016 2:54 pm

Are "they" a group of people? This A company? An organization? A society? Residents of the same area? yes
Is the time frame of the 6 mistakes relevant? Yes! (ish) Were they trying to accomplish something while making the mistakes? Yes, though "accomplish" might not be the best word
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Re: [Zanreo]Terrible luck

Postby CoffeeBean » Wed Aug 24, 2016 3:13 pm

Did the mistakes all happen within a minute? A few minutes? Less than an hour? A few hours? A day? A few days? A week? A month? A year? Longer?
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Re: [Zanreo]Terrible luck

Postby jumpingjacks » Wed Aug 24, 2016 3:55 pm

Were they neighbours? Or just members of one household? Anything to do with signs? House numbers? Post boxes? Fences? Gates? Gardens? Grass? Communal bins? Cars? Other vehicles?
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Re: [Zanreo]Terrible luck

Postby Westing1992 » Wed Aug 24, 2016 8:26 pm

Did they first realize they had made a mistake after the first time? After all six times? Somewhere in the middle?
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Re: [Zanreo]Terrible luck

Postby GalFisk » Thu Aug 25, 2016 12:00 am

WAG: were they playing russian roulette, but forgot to load the revolver?

Were they trying to avoid something? Did they ever before the 6th time attempt to fix or prevent their previous mistake?
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Re: [Zanreo]Terrible luck

Postby Zanreo » Thu Aug 25, 2016 3:30 am

CoffeeBean:
Did the mistakes all happen within a minute? A few minutes? Less than an hour? A few hours? A day? A few days? A week? A month? longer A year? shorter Longer?

jumpingjacks:
Were they neighbours? Or just members of one household? this Anything to do with signs? House numbers? Post boxes? Fences? Gates? Gardens? Grass? Communal bins? Cars? Other vehicles? None of these

Westing:
Did they first realize they had made a mistake after the first time? Yes After all six times? Somewhere in the middle?

GalFisk:
WAG: were they playing russian roulette, but forgot to load the revolver? Haha, nope

Were they trying to avoid something? Yesish/yope Did they ever before the 6th time attempt to fix or prevent their previous mistake? No and FA
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Re: [Zanreo]Terrible luck

Postby JenBurdoo » Mon Aug 29, 2016 4:54 pm

Were they insane?

Did their first attempts appear to work, but did not? Were they done on a regular schedule? Once a week? Once a month? During a particular time of year?
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Re: [Zanreo]Terrible luck

Postby Zanreo » Mon Aug 29, 2016 11:02 pm

Were they insane? No

Did their first attempts appear to work, but did not? Yesish/yope, exploreWere they done on a regular schedule? No Once a week? No Once a month? No During a particular time of year? Noish
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Re: [Zanreo]Terrible luck

Postby Balin » Tue Aug 30, 2016 9:43 pm

Were they able to fix the mistake? Did it happen automatically every subsequent time?
Seasons of the year relevant?
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Re: [Zanreo]Terrible luck

Postby Zanreo » Wed Aug 31, 2016 12:14 am

Were they able to fix the mistake? No Did it happen automatically every subsequent time? Not "automatically", but...
Seasons of the year relevant? Not in themselves, no
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Re: [Zanreo]Terrible luck

Postby JenBurdoo » Wed Aug 31, 2016 3:57 pm

Was it possible to tell immediately that their attempts had failed? If not, was this why they repeated the mistake?
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Re: [Zanreo]Terrible luck

Postby Zanreo » Wed Aug 31, 2016 9:12 pm

Was it possible to tell immediately that their attempts had failed? Yope/depends If not, was this why they repeated the mistake? Not really for that reason
(this will probably make more sense as you find out what it is)
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Re: [Zanreo]Terrible luck

Postby CoffeeBean » Thu Sep 01, 2016 7:15 pm

Is it correct to say that they 6 failed attempts at something? Or are these mistakes not the kind that would be the result of failed attempts at something?
How many people are involved in making the mistakes? 2? More?
Do the exact same people make the same mistake every time?
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Re: [Zanreo]Terrible luck

Postby Zanreo » Fri Sep 02, 2016 10:09 am

Is it correct to say that they 6 failed attempts at something? Not really Or are these mistakes not the kind that would be the result of failed attempts at something? this
How many people are involved in making the mistakes? 2? this More?
Do the exact same people make the same mistake every time? DOYD of "the same", but yes
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Re: [Zanreo]Terrible luck

Postby Balin » Tue Sep 06, 2016 12:31 am

Did they make the mistake to the same thing or situation?
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Re: [Zanreo]Terrible luck

Postby Zanreo » Wed Sep 07, 2016 5:26 am

Did they make the mistake to the same thing or situation? yes
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Re: [Zanreo]Terrible luck

Postby CoffeeBean » Wed Sep 07, 2016 3:05 pm

Was the mistake a type of action? Or a reaction? Lack of preparation for something? Incorrect response? Flawed logic? Lack of planning? Careless or negligent action?
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Re: [Zanreo]Terrible luck

Postby Zanreo » Thu Sep 08, 2016 2:27 am

Was the mistake a type of action? yes Or a reaction? no Lack of preparation for something? no Incorrect response? Flawed logic? Lack of planning? Careless or negligent action? No to rest
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Re: [Zanreo]Terrible luck

Postby Zanreo » Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:41 am

Hint: This wouldn't have been easy to prevent
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Re: [Zanreo]Terrible luck

Postby GalFisk » Thu Sep 08, 2016 5:22 pm

Health relevant? Medicine? Risk? Finance? Did they know they made the 6 mistakes? If so: were they told? Did they find out themselves? Did they know only after all 6 were made? Snow relevant? Outside temperature? Were the mistakes revealed by a change in seasons?
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Re: [Zanreo]Terrible luck

Postby GalFisk » Thu Sep 08, 2016 5:24 pm

Health relevant? Medicine? Risk? Finance? Did they know they made the 6 mistakes? If so: were they told? Did they find out themselves? Did they know only after all 6 were made? Snow relevant? Outside temperature? Were the mistakes revealed by a change in seasons? Sowing/planting relevant?
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Re: [Zanreo]Terrible luck

Postby Zanreo » Thu Sep 08, 2016 6:04 pm

Health relevant? Medicine? Risk? Finance? Did they know they made the 6 mistakes? yes If so: were they told? Did they find out themselves? yes Did they know only after all 6 were made? yes Snow relevant? noOutside temperature? no Were the mistakes revealed by a change in seasons? no Sowing/planting relevant? no
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Re: [Zanreo]Terrible luck

Postby CoffeeBean » Thu Sep 08, 2016 7:24 pm

Were they immediately aware that the mistake had been made each time? Or did time have to pass in order for them to realize this? I'm thinking of something like fixing a leak in a roof - you can patch a hole with something, but you won't know for sure that it works until it rains.
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Re: [Zanreo]Terrible luck

Postby Zanreo » Thu Sep 08, 2016 7:39 pm

Were they immediately aware that the mistake had been made each time? Sometimes Or did time have to pass in order for them to realize this? But sometimes this I'm thinking of something like fixing a leak in a roof - you can patch a hole with something, but you won't know for sure that it works until it rains. Not like that really

and actually, a correction for a previous answer:
Snow relevant? yes(ish) but beware slight FA
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Re: [Zanreo]Terrible luck

Postby GalFisk » Thu Sep 08, 2016 9:33 pm

Does making the mistake require an object? Does it require more than one person? Did they make the mistakes together? Separately? Did they attempt to: build something? Create something? Repair something? Improve something? Prepare for something? Please someone?
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Re: [Zanreo]Terrible luck

Postby Zanreo » Fri Sep 09, 2016 12:31 am

Does making the mistake require an object? typically yes (with a slight potential FA) Does it require more than one person? no Did they make the mistakes together? yesSeparately? Did they attempt to: build something? Create something? Repair something? Improve something? Prepare for something? this is closest Please someone?
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Re: [Zanreo]Terrible luck

Postby Balin » Sat Sep 17, 2016 4:44 pm

Was some form of natural disaster involved? A blizzard? Hailstorm?
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Re: [Zanreo]Terrible luck

Postby Zanreo » Sun Sep 18, 2016 2:13 am

Was some form of natural disaster involved? Yes! A blizzard? Hailstorm? Close and there's more
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Re: [Zanreo]Terrible luck

Postby Balin » Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:45 pm

Sleet? Ice? Another winter storm? A hurricane?
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Re: [Zanreo]Terrible luck

Postby Zanreo » Sun Sep 18, 2016 10:17 pm

Sleet? Ice? Another winter storm? this A hurricane? and this
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Re: [Zanreo]Terrible luck

Postby Balin » Mon Sep 19, 2016 12:07 am

Is the weather forecast relevant? Is the forecast where the mistakes were made?
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Re: [Zanreo]Terrible luck

Postby Zanreo » Mon Sep 19, 2016 12:17 am

Is the weather forecast relevant? Not forecast... Is the forecast where the mistakes were made? So no
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Re: [Zanreo]Terrible luck

Postby WiZ » Mon Sep 19, 2016 1:10 am

Are naming conventions relevant?
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Re: [Zanreo]Terrible luck

Postby Zanreo » Mon Sep 19, 2016 3:56 am

Are naming conventions relevant? No
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Re: [Zanreo]Terrible luck

Postby Zanreo » Tue Sep 27, 2016 3:11 pm

Hint: Explore what they did when making the mistake
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Re: [Zanreo]Terrible luck

Postby CoffeeBean » Tue Sep 27, 2016 3:14 pm

Is snow related to the mistake? Cold weather? Some other kind of precipitation?
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Re: [Zanreo]Terrible luck

Postby Zanreo » Tue Sep 27, 2016 3:15 pm

Is snow related to the mistake? Cold weather? FA Some other kind of precipitation? no/ not necessarily
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Re: [Zanreo]Terrible luck

Postby Acridian9 » Fri Sep 30, 2016 9:19 am

A house relevant? windows? chimney? door? Is the mistake done outdoor? indoor?
As for the weather part: is strong wind the only relevant thing?
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Re: [Zanreo]Terrible luck

Postby Zanreo » Fri Sep 30, 2016 1:30 pm

A house relevant? windows? chimney? door? None of these Is the mistake done outdoor? indoor? Irrel/hard to answer
As for the weather part: is strong wind the only relevant thing? No, and a specific kind of weather isn't relevant
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Re: [Zanreo]Terrible luck

Postby psymann » Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:15 pm

So since this has been left hanging nearly as long as I've been away, can I check some stuff?

There are six mistakes made?
By two people, who are housemates? family members?
But it would have been perfectly possible for one person to have made the mistakes on their own, had there happened to have been only one of them?


These quotes seem to conflict a bit:

Did they first realize they had made a mistake after the first time? Yes After all six times? Somewhere in the middle?


Were they immediately aware that the mistake had been made each time? Sometimes


Did they know they made the 6 mistakes...only after all 6 were made? yes


So - were they aware of any mistake having been made before the sixth mistake was made?


Were they trying to prevent the weather damaging something?

Was any other natural disaster involved, (apart from a winter storm of inexact specification)?

DId they perform a task six times, and, each time - some number of days/weeks later - wintry/stormy weather occurred, after which they were able to see that they had failed in their task?
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Re: [Zanreo]Terrible luck

Postby Zanreo » Tue Oct 18, 2016 1:19 am

So - were they aware of any mistake having been made before the sixth mistake was made? yes

Were they trying to prevent the weather damaging something? yesish, for a certain meaning of "something"

Was any other natural disaster involved, (apart from a winter storm of inexact specification)? Yes!

DId they perform a task six times, yes, though "task" might not be the best word and, each time - some number of days/weeks later - yes, or earlierwintry/stormy weather occurred, slight FA but otherwise yes after which they were able to see that they had failed in their task? yes
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Re: [Zanreo]Terrible luck

Postby psymann » Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:23 pm

Ok, ignore my previous comment about this thread being left hanging from a while; I was reading the wrong date! :oops:

Were all six mistakes made by the same two people?
Could they still have been made if there was only one person?

Were they trying to prevent damage to an inanimate object (eg house, car, pogo-stick)?
Were they trying to prevent injury to themselves? or other humans? or other wildlife?

Did their attempts to prevent the weather damaging something (ish), cause a different natural disaster to do more damage that it would otherwise have done?
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Re: [Zanreo]Terrible luck

Postby Acridian9 » Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:47 pm

An avalanche relevant? flashflood? landslide? earthquake? volcanic eruption? wildfire?
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Re: [Zanreo]Terrible luck

Postby Zanreo » Wed Oct 19, 2016 7:42 pm

sorry psymann, missed the comments on top of your past post:

There are six mistakes made? yes
By two people, who are housemates? family members? i can say it's a married couple
But it would have been perfectly possible for one person to have made the mistakes on their own, had there happened to have been only one of them? yes

Were all six mistakes made by the same two people? yes
Could they still have been made if there was only one person? yes

Were they trying to prevent damage to an inanimate object (eg house, car, pogo-stick)? no
Were they trying to prevent injury to themselves? yes or other humans? one other human, yes or other wildlife?

Did their attempts to prevent the weather damaging something (ish), cause a different natural disaster to do more damage that it would otherwise have done? no

Accridian:
An avalanche relevant? flashflood? a flood, at least landslide? earthquake? this volcanic eruption? wildfire? and this
(Focusing too much on the specific type of disasters probably won't help)
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Re: [Zanreo]Terrible luck

Postby GalFisk » Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:13 pm

Did they try to get away from disasters? Did they move? did they try to protect their child? Did they move away from an area where one type of disaster was likely, only to go into one where another type was likely?
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Re: [Zanreo]Terrible luck

Postby Zanreo » Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:33 pm

Did they try to get away from disasters? yes Did they move? Move as in "change their place of residence"? No did they try to protect their child? Yes Did they move away from an area where one type of disaster was likely, only to go into one where another type was likely? Very OTRT
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Re: [Zanreo]Terrible luck

Postby Acridian9 » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:29 pm

DId they go on vacation and ended up into a natural disaster?
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Re: [Zanreo]Terrible luck

Postby Zanreo » Thu Oct 20, 2016 12:58 pm

DId they go on vacation and ended up into a natural disaster? Yes! And...
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Re: [Zanreo]Terrible luck

Postby Acridian9 » Thu Oct 20, 2016 1:26 pm

Did they go on vacation 6 times and every time they got into a natural disaster?
Or was it 6 disasters in one vacation?
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Re: [Zanreo]Terrible luck

Postby GalFisk » Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:31 pm

Did they every time decide to go as far away from the previous place as possible? To a place that was completely different from the previous one? To a place where the previous type of disaster could not happen?
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Re: [Zanreo]Terrible luck

Postby Zanreo » Thu Oct 20, 2016 6:55 pm

Acridian:
Did they go on vacation 6 times and every time they got into a natural disaster? Yes!
Or was it 6 disasters in one vacation? This too

GalFisk
Did they every time decide to go as far away from the previous place as possible? Not neccesssarily To a place that was completely different from the previous one? yes To a place where the previous type of disaster could not happen? Irrel

Well, that's pretty much it, time for the...

*** SPOILER ***

Starting late 2010 until early 2011, a Swedish couple, along with their infant daughter, went travelling for their honeymoon but ended up in a different natural disaster every time. Every time they travelled somewhere else... only to arrive at a new disaster:
- Their initial flight to Cairns, Australia was held up by a huge snowstorm, stranding them in a German airport
- When they got a new flight and arrived, Cairns was hit by a cyclone and they had to hide for 24 hours
- Then they went to Brisbane, which got hit by a flood
- Then they went to Perth, which was hit by a huge bushfire
- After that, they went to Christchurch in New Zealand... which got hit by an earthquake and floods
- Then they decided to go to Tokyo... a few days before the 2011 earthquake in Japan.


http://www.cracked.com/article_24074_5-vacations-that-went-impossibly-wrong.html http://www.cnbc.com/id/42468015
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