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[Balin] Reza sunshine

Postby Balin » Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:48 pm

The happiest moment of Reza's life led to her death. How?
Reza = H/A/F
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Re: [Balin] Reza sunshine

Postby Westing1992 » Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:17 pm

Was the happiest moment her wedding? A birthday? Did she accomplish something?
Any other people involved in the happy moment? In her death?
Was the time eclipsed between happiness and death: moments? minutes? hours? days? years?
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Re: [Balin] Reza sunshine

Postby WiZ » Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:21 pm

Did she die doing something she loved? Did she die in the near or immediate aftermath of the happy moment? Was it an eventual consequence set in causal motion by the 'moment'?

Was she happy because of something she was doing? Something that happened to her? News she had received? When the moment occurred, did she already anticipate that she would die at (roughly) the time she did?

Did she die of natural causes? Illness? Injury? Did another person cause her death? If so, accidentally? If not, murder? manslaughter? Was she involved in any dangerous activity?

Is her age relevant? Hobbies? Ethnicity? Location?
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Re: [Balin] Reza sunshine

Postby Balin » Wed Sep 14, 2016 11:53 pm

Was the happiest moment her wedding? No A birthday? No Did she accomplish something? Noish
Any other people involved in the happy moment? Yes In her death? Yes
Was the time eclipsed between happiness and death: moments? minutes? hours? days? Assume a few days years?

Did she die doing something she loved? Irrel Did she die in the near or immediate aftermath of the happy moment? See above Was it an eventual consequence set in causal motion by the 'moment'? Yes

Was she happy because of something she was doing? Something that happened to her? This News she had received?
When the moment occurred, did she already anticipate that she would die at (roughly) the time she did? No

Did she die of natural causes? Illness? Injury? Did another person cause her death? This If so, accidentally? If not, murder? This manslaughter? Was she involved in any dangerous activity? Yope

Is her age relevant? Hobbies? Yope; No to rest Ethnicity? Location?
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Re: [Balin] Reza sunshine

Postby jumpingjacks » Wed Sep 14, 2016 11:56 pm

Murderer: HAM?
What was the motive for her murder: money? revenge? jealousy?
Did she receive a lot of money? Win a prize?

I bet it's money, Poirot always says it's money...
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Re: [Balin] Reza sunshine

Postby Balin » Wed Sep 14, 2016 11:58 pm

Murderer: HAM? H/A/either; let's say H/A/M
What was the motive for her murder: money? revenge? This jealousy?
Did she receive a lot of money? No Win a prize? No

I bet it's money, Poirot always says it's money... Mais non, mon amie...
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Re: [Balin] Reza sunshine

Postby jumpingjacks » Thu Sep 15, 2016 12:30 am

Was the murderer getting revenge on Reza? Or on someone else, but through her? Did the murderer consider himself wronged by Reza? By someone else? By someone close to Reza?

Was someone directly responsible for the happiest moment in her life? Did someone propose to her? Give her something tangible? Give her an experience? Tell her something?

Was the murderer known personally to Reza? Were they friends? family? married? lovers? ex-lovers? colleagues? acquaintances?
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Re: [Balin] Reza sunshine

Postby Balin » Thu Sep 15, 2016 1:41 am

Was the murderer getting revenge on Reza? Yes Or on someone else, but through her?
Did the murderer consider himself wronged by Reza? Yes By someone else? By someone close to Reza?

Was someone directly responsible for the happiest moment in her life? Yes Did someone propose to her? Yes! Give her something tangible? Give her an experience? Tell her something?

Was the murderer known personally to Reza? Yope Were they friends? family? married? lovers? ex-lovers? colleagues? acquaintances? Yope. No to rest
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Re: [Balin] Reza sunshine

Postby jumpingjacks » Thu Sep 15, 2016 3:01 am

Person who proposed to Reza - ham?
Had the murderer previously been romantically involved with this person? currently involved?
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Re: [Balin] Reza sunshine

Postby Balin » Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:37 pm

Person who proposed to Reza - ham? Assuming you mean Human/Adult/Male and not Tasty Pork Product, Yes.
Had the murderer previously been romantically involved with this person? No currently involved? No
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Re: [Balin] Reza sunshine

Postby CoffeeBean » Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:44 pm

Did the murderer want to have a relationship with Reza? Was it a secret admirer?
Or did they not want Reza to "live happily ever after" for some reason?
If this certain person hadn't proposed to Reza, would the murderer still have killed her?
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Re: [Balin] Reza sunshine

Postby Balin » Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:58 pm

Did the murderer want to have a relationship with Reza? No Was it a secret admirer? No
Or did they not want Reza to "live happily ever after" for some reason? Most definitely
If this certain person hadn't proposed to Reza, would the murderer still have killed her? No
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Re: [Balin] Reza sunshine

Postby Twilightseeker » Thu Sep 15, 2016 11:36 pm

Did the murderer want to know her? Did she know him? Was he bitter that she was getting married? Was he jealous of her, because he liked the person she married?
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Re: [Balin] Reza sunshine

Postby jumpingjacks » Fri Sep 16, 2016 12:39 am

Does Reza getting married 'wrong' the murderer in some way? Does it hurt him emotionally? materially? physically?
Which aspect of this bothers the murderer - that Reza was getting married at all? that she was marrying Tasty Porkman specifically? That she had been proposed to at all?
Did Tasty Porkman give Reza a ring? Was this a significant ring? Had it belonged to someone known to the murderer?
Is there a will somewhere that the murderer was expecting to benefit from? But now that Reza is getting married, he will no longer benefit from it?
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Re: [Balin] Reza sunshine

Postby Balin » Fri Sep 16, 2016 1:26 pm

Did the murderer want to know her? Yope Did she know him? Yes Was he bitter that she was getting married? No Was he jealous of her, because he liked the person she married? No

Does Reza getting married 'wrong' the murderer in some way? No Does it hurt him emotionally? materially? physically? No to all
Which aspect of this bothers the murderer - that Reza was getting married at all? that she was marrying Tasty Porkman specifically? That she had been proposed to at all? None of these. But "Tasty Porkman" has to be the oddest name given to a character in one of my puzzles, ever. I love it.
Did Tasty Porkman give Reza a ring? Yes Was this a significant ring? No Had it belonged to someone known to the murderer? No
Is there a will somewhere that the murderer was expecting to benefit from? No But now that Reza is getting married, he will no longer benefit from it? No
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Re: [Balin] Reza sunshine

Postby Twilightseeker » Sat Sep 17, 2016 8:22 am

Did Reza know she supposedly wronged this person? Did she mean to? Did she do something ethically wrong or questionable?
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Re: [Balin] Reza sunshine

Postby Balin » Sat Sep 17, 2016 4:42 pm

Did Reza know she supposedly wronged this person? Yes Did she mean to? Yes Did she do something ethically wrong or questionable? When?
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Re: [Balin] Reza sunshine

Postby Twilightseeker » Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:35 am

Did she do something ethically wrong or questionable when she supposedly wronged the person who came to kill her? Before this, after? When getting married? Is the person she's marrying relevant at all?
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Re: [Balin] Reza sunshine

Postby Balin » Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:49 pm

Did she do something ethically wrong or questionable when she supposedly wronged the person who came to kill her? Before this, after? Before
When getting married? No
Is the person she's marrying relevant at all? Other than being her fiancé, no.
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Re: [Balin] Reza sunshine

Postby GalFisk » Sun Sep 18, 2016 6:54 pm

Did the murderer want to kill Reza before the proposal? Did the proposal help the murderer find her? Was the proposal made in public? Was it in the news? Was it seen on TV? Was it otherwise relevantly known to more people than Reza and Tasty Porkman? Would she have died if the had rejected the proposal? Did Reza know that the would-be murderer wanted to murder her?
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Re: [Balin] Reza sunshine

Postby Balin » Mon Sep 19, 2016 12:03 am

Did the murderer want to kill Reza before the proposal? Yes Did the proposal help the murderer find her? Yes! Was the proposal made in public? Yes Was it in the news? Yes Was it seen on TV? Yes Was it otherwise relevantly known to more people than Reza and Tasty Porkman? See previous three answers Would she have died if the had rejected the proposal? Depends on if it had gotten the same news coverage. So probably not Did Reza know that the would-be murderer wanted to murder her? Yes
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Re: [Balin] Reza sunshine

Postby Twilightseeker » Mon Sep 19, 2016 7:02 am

Did Reza try to go into hiding after her proposal was publicized?

Looking back to how she wronged her murderer, did she in fact kill someone important to her murderer? Deprive him of something he felt was rightfully his (honor, money, fame, possessions?)?
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Re: [Balin] Reza sunshine

Postby Balin » Mon Sep 19, 2016 11:20 am

Did Reza try to go into hiding after her proposal was publicized? No

Looking back to how she wronged her murderer, did she in fact kill someone important to her murderer? No Deprive him of something he felt was rightfully his (honor, money, fame, possessions?)? Yope
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Re: [Balin] Reza sunshine

Postby Twilightseeker » Mon Sep 19, 2016 11:24 am

Did she do something unethical that indirectly lead to the murderer(-to-be) losing something?
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Re: [Balin] Reza sunshine

Postby Balin » Mon Sep 19, 2016 10:39 pm

Did she do something unethical that indirectly lead to the murderer(-to-be) losing something? No
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Re: [Balin] Reza sunshine

Postby jumpingjacks » Tue Sep 20, 2016 2:47 am

Did Reza commit a crime when she wronged the (future) murderer? Is she famous? Is Tasty Porkman famous? Was her fame the reason the proposal was broadcast on TV? Tasty Porkman's fame? Or was it the nature of Tasty Porkman's proposal that made it hit the news? Did he do it during a well-known event? Eg a baseball game? Olympics ceremony? Was it a particularly elaborate proposal?
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Re: [Balin] Reza sunshine

Postby Balin » Tue Sep 20, 2016 5:07 pm

Did Reza commit a crime when she wronged the (future) murderer? No Is she famous? No Is Tasty Porkman famous? No Was her fame the reason the proposal was broadcast on TV? No Tasty Porkman's fame? No Or was it the nature of Tasty Porkman's proposal that made it hit the news? Yes Did he do it during a well-known event? Yes Eg a baseball game? Yes! Olympics ceremony? Was it a particularly elaborate proposal? Yes

You have all the information about the proposal now. All that's needed is why the murderer wanted Reza dead, and how the proposal allowed him to kill her.
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Re: [Balin] Reza sunshine

Postby biograd » Tue Sep 20, 2016 5:53 pm

Did the murderer also want to marry Reza? Had they competed for a job position in the past? for some other role?

I'm assuming Reza was in the stands watching the game? Is this correct? Could the murderer find Reza because the proposal was somehow "aimed" at her (for instance, a sign was held up directly opposite her in the stadium)? Was Reza herself shown on TV accepting, in a manner that from the image it was possible to tell where her seat was?
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Re: [Balin] Reza sunshine

Postby CoffeeBean » Tue Sep 20, 2016 7:15 pm

Did the proposal somehow affect the outcome of the sporting event?
Was the killer in the same building/complex as where the proposal occurred? Or watching it on TV?
Did the killer feel offended by something that was done during the proposal?
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Re: [Balin] Reza sunshine

Postby Balin » Tue Sep 20, 2016 11:19 pm

Did the murderer also want to marry Reza? No Had they competed for a job position in the past? No for some other role? No

I'm assuming Reza was in the stands watching the game? Yes Is this correct? Yes Could the murderer find Reza because the proposal was somehow "aimed" at her (for instance, a sign was held up directly opposite her in the stadium)? See next Was Reza herself shown on TV accepting, in a manner that from the image it was possible to tell where her seat was? Yes, but her specific seat is irrelevant

Did the proposal somehow affect the outcome of the sporting event? No
Was the killer in the same building/complex as where the proposal occurred? No Or watching it on TV? Yes
Did the killer feel offended by something that was done during the proposal? No
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Re: [Balin] Reza sunshine

Postby jumpingjacks » Wed Sep 21, 2016 12:47 am

I don't watch baseball, so don't laugh if these questions are silly:
Are fans in the stadium divided by which team they are supporting? Was Reza seated in the "home team" area? Or that of the opposing team? Thereby suggesting that she lived in the town/city that team was from?
Did Tasty Porkman arrange the proposal with the powers that be beforehand? So the camera crew knew to focus on them? Or perhaps he was just so ostentatious that they couldn't help but notice? Was their hometown announced on TV?

Hmm, so Reza and the murderer are yopeish acquaintances. Did they just meet once? Several times? Did they meet on holiday? On a trip? Or event of some kind? Was the murderer a criminal before killing Reza? Perhaps Reza was responsible for him going to jail? Did Reza frame him for something? Conceal evidence that might have helped him?
Did Reza and the murderer meet in a professional capacity?
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Re: [Balin] Reza sunshine

Postby Balin » Wed Sep 21, 2016 1:58 am

I don't watch baseball, so don't laugh if these questions are silly:
Are fans in the stadium divided by which team they are supporting? No Was Reza seated in the "home team" area? Or that of the opposing team? Thereby suggesting that she lived in the town/city that team was from?
Did Tasty Porkman arrange the proposal with the powers that be beforehand? Yes So the camera crew knew to focus on them? Yes Or perhaps he was just so ostentatious that they couldn't help but notice? No Was their hometown announced on TV? No

Hmm, so Reza and the murderer are yopeish acquaintances. They are definitely acquainted, but "acquaintance" is not the word I would use
Did they just meet once? Several times? This
Did they meet on holiday? On a trip? Or event of some kind? No to all
Was the murderer a criminal before killing Reza? Yes Perhaps Reza was responsible for him going to jail? Yes! Did Reza frame him for something? No Conceal evidence that might have helped him? No
Did Reza and the murderer meet in a professional capacity?
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Re: [Balin] Reza sunshine

Postby biograd » Wed Sep 21, 2016 2:13 am

Now that I realize I may well have had a FA...
So, did the murderer arrange to find her while she was in (or leaving) the ballpark? or did he conclude somehow where her residence was and go there to kill her?
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Re: [Balin] Reza sunshine

Postby jumpingjacks » Wed Sep 21, 2016 2:16 am

Did he go to jail for murder? robbery? theft? fraud? assault? other?
Was Reza a victim of his crime? (prior to being murdered by him) Did she testify against him? Did she trick him somehow? Ring the police? Bring him to the police station?
Did he commit the crime because of her? Were they accomplices? Did she betray him?
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Re: [Balin] Reza sunshine

Postby Balin » Wed Sep 21, 2016 2:20 am

Now that I realize I may well have had a FA...
So, did the murderer arrange to find her while she was in (or leaving) the ballpark? or did he conclude somehow where her residence was and go there to kill her? The latter. Good question.

Did he go to jail for murder? robbery? theft? fraud? assault? other? A lot of things; murder was among them
Was Reza a victim of his crime? No (prior to being murdered by him) Did she testify against him? Yes! Did she trick him somehow? No Ring the police? No Bring him to the police station? No
Did he commit the crime because of her? Were they accomplices? Did she betray him?
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Re: [Balin] Reza sunshine

Postby jumpingjacks » Wed Sep 21, 2016 2:23 am

Was she a witness? You mentioned that she did something ethically questionable... was testifying against him ethically questionable? Did she lie on the witness stand?
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Re: [Balin] Reza sunshine

Postby Balin » Wed Sep 21, 2016 2:40 am

Was she a witness? Yes, of a certain type You mentioned that she did something ethically questionable... was testifying against him ethically questionable? No Did she lie on the witness stand? No
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Re: [Balin] Reza sunshine

Postby jumpingjacks » Wed Sep 21, 2016 2:44 am

An eye witness? A character witness? An expert witness?
Did she do the morally questionable thing before she testified? after? Before the murderer went to jail? after?
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Re: [Balin] Reza sunshine

Postby Balin » Wed Sep 21, 2016 2:52 am

An eye witness? This, but keep going... A character witness? An expert witness?
Did she do the morally questionable thing before she testified? after? Before the murderer went to jail? after? "Before" to both
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Re: [Balin] Reza sunshine

Postby rcb » Wed Sep 21, 2016 7:14 am

Was Reza a former accomplice of the murderer?
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Re: [Balin] Reza sunshine

Postby peter365 » Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:05 am

I'm guessing that she was probably in the witness protection programme?
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Re: [Balin] Reza sunshine

Postby Balin » Wed Sep 21, 2016 7:14 pm

Was Reza a former accomplice of the murderer? Yes

I'm guessing that she was probably in the witness protection programme? Exactly.

****SPOILER****

Years before the events of the puzzle, Reza was in a gang, but she testified against the gang leader, putting him in prison, and entered the Witness Protection Program. Reza started a new life in another part of the country, and eventually started a relationship with Tasty Porkman. One day, when they were at a baseball game, he proposed to her, which she accepted; the proposal was caught on camera and replayed on national television. The gang leader saw a replay and recognized Reza; realizing that she probably lived somewhere near the ballpark, he tracked her down and killed her.

Well done everyone – Peter for the solve, Jackie for cracking me up with "Tasty Porkman," and all of you for asking questions.
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Re: [Balin] (*SOLVED*) Reza sunshine

Postby peter365 » Thu Sep 22, 2016 2:05 pm

A late swoop but I couldn't resist. By the way I'm not a big fan of public marriage proposals.
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Re: [Balin] (*SOLVED*) Reza sunshine

Postby Balin » Thu Sep 22, 2016 6:49 pm

I've never been fond of them either.
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