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[JenBurdoo] They can think...

Postby JenBurdoo » Mon Sep 19, 2016 8:19 pm

Normally giraffes are too large for lions to kill. But in one part of Africa is a pride of lions that has worked out how to do it. What is their method?
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Postby WiZ » Mon Sep 19, 2016 8:22 pm

Did they eat all the acacia leaves?

Do they attack the giraffe directly? Do they use strength of numbers to their advantage? Do they manage to weaken the giraffe somehow? Does their success lie in somehow surmounting the obstacle of their prey's sheer size? Do they use the environment/positioning to their advantage? Do they invoke the help of other animals? Do they approach the kill conventionally, and then find a lateral solution from that point in which lions tend to get stuck?
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Postby JenBurdoo » Tue Sep 20, 2016 3:00 am

Did they eat all the acacia leaves? No.

Do they attack the giraffe directly? No. Do they use strength of numbers to their advantage? No. Do they manage to weaken the giraffe somehow? No. Does their success lie in somehow surmounting the obstacle of their prey's sheer size? No. Do they use the environment/positioning to their advantage? Yes. Do they invoke the help of other animals? Sort of. Do they approach the kill conventionally, and then find a lateral solution from that point in which lions tend to get stuck? Arguably.
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Postby rcb » Wed Sep 21, 2016 7:19 am

Do they attack the giraffes by waiting on higher ground, so they could attack the neck directly? Maybe up in a tree?
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Postby peter365 » Wed Sep 21, 2016 7:57 am

Do they attack it in water?
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Postby JenBurdoo » Wed Sep 21, 2016 2:38 pm

Do they attack the giraffes by waiting on higher ground, so they could attack the neck directly? Maybe up in a tree?

Do they attack it in water?

No to all.
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Postby GalFisk » Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:18 pm

Camouflage relevant? Giraffe instincts? Giraffe weaknesses? Is the giraffe chased? Tripped? Trapped? Is its tallness a disadvantage? Are its feeding habits relevant? Is it killed by biting the neck?
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Postby JenBurdoo » Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:35 pm

Camouflage relevant? No. Giraffe instincts? Yes. Giraffe weaknesses? No. Is the giraffe chased? Yes. Tripped? No. Trapped? No. Is its tallness a disadvantage? No. Are its feeding habits relevant? No. Is it killed by biting the neck? No.
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Postby Twilightseeker » Wed Sep 21, 2016 11:41 pm

Do the lions cause the giraffes to fight/kill each other in some way? Like chase them onto each other's territory so they'll get mad and fight?
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Postby JenBurdoo » Thu Sep 22, 2016 4:20 am

Do the lions cause the giraffes to fight/kill each other in some way? Like chase them onto each other's territory so they'll get mad and fight? No to both.
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Postby WiZ » Thu Sep 22, 2016 4:38 am

Do they manipulate the environment in such a way that it poses a lethal threat to the giraffes (e.g. cause landslips, roll boulders etc.)?

Is any other type of animal involved? Do other animals attack the giraffes directly? Do they spook/threaten them?

Are the giraffes chased to a place where they will be at the mercy of their environment (cliffs, water's edges and the like)?

Is there more to 'giraffe's instincts' than a flight-or-fight response? Are they manipulated somehow in this respect? Do their young unwittingly play a part in these schemes?

Do 30-odd lions have to act in concert for this end to be achieved? Can a single lion manage it? Can three or so?
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Postby JenBurdoo » Thu Sep 22, 2016 5:00 pm

Do they manipulate the environment in such a way that it poses a lethal threat to the giraffes (e.g. cause landslips, roll boulders etc.)? No.

Is any other type of animal involved? Yes. Do other animals attack the giraffes directly? They don't attack them. Do they spook/threaten them? No.

Are the giraffes chased to a place where they will be at the mercy of their environment (cliffs, water's edges and the like)? Yes.

Is there more to 'giraffe's instincts' than a flight-or-fight response? No. Are they manipulated somehow in this respect? Do their young unwittingly play a part in these schemes? No to both.

Do 30-odd lions have to act in concert for this end to be achieved? No. Can a single lion manage it? Possibly. Can three or so? I expect so.
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Postby GalFisk » Fri Sep 23, 2016 11:00 am

Do the other animals: scare the giraffes? Chase them? Stop them? Run from them? Hurt them? Make them feel safe? Harrass them? Defend their territory from them?
Edit: do the other animals dig holes, in which a running giraffe may step and stumble? Otherwise make fleeing through an area dangerous or difficult?
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Postby Twilightseeker » Fri Sep 23, 2016 11:20 am

Did the lions chase the giraffes off a cliff or bluff? (à la Native American technique of chasing buffalo/bison off a cliff to hunt them...)
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Postby JenBurdoo » Fri Sep 23, 2016 2:06 pm

Do the other animals: scare the giraffes? Chase them? Stop them? Run from them? Hurt them? This, none of the others. Make them feel safe? Harrass them? Defend their territory from them?
Edit: do the other animals dig holes, in which a running giraffe may step and stumble? No. Otherwise make fleeing through an area dangerous or difficult? Very much so.

Did the lions chase the giraffes off a cliff or bluff? (à la Native American technique of chasing buffalo/bison off a cliff to hunt them...) No, but you have the right idea.
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Postby jumpingjacks » Fri Sep 23, 2016 2:23 pm

So the other animals hurt the giraffe, but not by attacking them... Do they hurt the giraffes directly? With their bodies? Do they have defensive mechanisms, such as spikes? horns? stingers? poison? Do the lions chase the giraffe into their nest/lair so the giraffe gets stung/bitten/pricked?
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Postby JenBurdoo » Fri Sep 23, 2016 2:51 pm

So the other animals hurt the giraffe, but not by attacking them... Do they hurt the giraffes directly? Yes. With their bodies? No. Do they have defensive mechanisms, such as spikes? horns? stingers? poison? No. Do the lions chase the giraffe into their nest/lair so the giraffe gets stung/bitten/pricked? No, but again you have the right idea.
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Postby GalFisk » Fri Sep 23, 2016 4:07 pm

Are the other animals: insects? Arachnids? Reptiles? Mammals? Birds? Crustaceans? Fish? Worms? Do they affect a certain part of the giraffe's body? Do they relevantly build something? Destroy something? Do they fly?
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Postby JenBurdoo » Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:00 pm

Are the other animals: insects? Arachnids? Reptiles? Mammals? This. Birds? Crustaceans? Fish? Worms? Do they affect a certain part of the giraffe's body? No. Do they relevantly build something? Not during the puzzle, but something they build is relevant. Destroy something? No. Do they fly? They can, but not under the circumstances of the puzzle.

I detect an FA.
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Postby NickName » Sat Sep 24, 2016 6:51 pm

A flying mammal...is it a bat? If not flying....are they sleeping? Eating?
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Postby JenBurdoo » Sat Sep 24, 2016 8:40 pm

A flying mammal...is it a bat? If not flying....are they sleeping? Eating? No to all.
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Postby GalFisk » Sun Sep 25, 2016 6:24 pm

Do they need to be present in order to pose a danger? Do they make the ground slippery? Are they in trees? Do they cause problems for tall animals in particular?
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Postby peter365 » Mon Sep 26, 2016 2:50 pm

Is the other mammal man?
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Postby JenBurdoo » Tue Sep 27, 2016 2:53 pm

Do they need to be present in order to pose a danger? Yes. Do they make the ground slippery? No. Are they in trees? No. Do they cause problems for tall animals in particular? No.
Is the other mammal man? Yes.
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Postby Zanreo » Tue Sep 27, 2016 3:14 pm

So something built/made by humans is relevant?
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Postby JenBurdoo » Tue Sep 27, 2016 3:45 pm

So something built/made by humans is relevant? Yes.
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Postby GalFisk » Tue Sep 27, 2016 9:25 pm

Do they chase the giraffes into traffic?
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Postby JenBurdoo » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:05 am

Do they chase the giraffes into traffic? Got it.



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Some lions have discovered that if they chase giraffes across busy roads, cars will kill their prey for them. This is causing increasing trouble in parts of Africa as, not only does it block traffic for hours on end, but it can be deadly to the motorists.
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