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[Balin] Go see the principal

Postby Balin » Sun Sep 25, 2016 10:51 pm

Adelaide read four notes. The next day, Raphael was single. Why?
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Postby WiZ » Sun Sep 25, 2016 11:02 pm

Did this happen in the context of a school?

Were Adelaide and Raphael previously in a relationship? Did any of the notes contain information that identified wrongdoing on Raphael's part? Were the notes written by Adelaide? Did whoever wrote the notes anticipate that they would be read by Adelaide? Did Adelaide read them publicly?

Are any of the four notes especially relevant? At some point in the chain of events between the two mentioned in the puzzle question, did someone act on information gathered from more than one note?

Is the reading of the notes by Adelaide a direct causal link to Raphael's newfound single status?
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Re: [Balin] Go see the principal

Postby Balin » Sun Sep 25, 2016 11:13 pm

Did this happen in the context of a school? No

Were Adelaide and Raphael previously in a relationship? Yes Did any of the notes contain information that identified wrongdoing on Raphael's part? Yes Were the notes written by Adelaide? One of them Did whoever wrote the notes anticipate that they would be read by Adelaide? Yes Did Adelaide read them publicly? No, but...

Are any of the four notes especially relevant? Yes, three of them At some point in the chain of events between the two mentioned in the puzzle question, did someone act on information gathered from more than one note? Yes

Is the reading of the notes by Adelaide a direct causal link to Raphael's newfound single status? Yes
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Re: [Balin] Go see the principal

Postby jumpingjacks » Mon Sep 26, 2016 1:08 am

Is Raphael single because Adelaide broke up with him? Did he break up with her?
Did the notes suggest that Raphael had done something wrong to Adelaide? Did he cheat on her? Lie to her? Do something else to harm her? Or did it suggest that he had done something wrong more generally? Had he committed a crime? Wronged someone else?

Notes = pieces of paper with writing on them? Were they handwritten? Typed? When Adelaide wrote one of the notes, did she anticipate receiving the other three notes? Were the three notes a direct response to her note? Did she display her note publicly? On a noticeboard? Had she already suspected wrongdoing on R's part at the time of her writing the note? Were the three notes written by just one other person? Two people? Three people?
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Re: [Balin] Go see the principal

Postby Balin » Mon Sep 26, 2016 2:00 am

Is Raphael single because Adelaide broke up with him? Yes Did he break up with her? No
Did the notes suggest that Raphael had done something wrong to Adelaide? Yes Did he cheat on her? Yes Lie to her? See previous Do something else to harm her? No Or did it suggest that he had done something wrong more generally? No Had he committed a crime? No Wronged someone else? No

Notes = pieces of paper with writing on them? Yes Were they handwritten? Yes Typed? No When Adelaide wrote one of the notes, did she anticipate receiving the other three notes? Yes Were the three notes a direct response to her note? No Did she display her note publicly? No On a noticeboard? No Had she already suspected wrongdoing on R's part at the time of her writing the note? No Were the three notes written by just one other person? Two people? Three people? This
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Re: [Balin] Go see the principal

Postby LemonCurry » Mon Sep 26, 2016 6:36 am

Did Raphael write one of the notes? did four persons each write one Note? Or were any of the notes written by more than one person together?
Did Adelaide pretend to be Raphael in her Note?

Were the notes in the Mail? Found somewhere? Relevant where Adelaide received them?

Did Adelaide read the notes in Front of Raphael? If yes, was Raphael's reaction relevant?
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Re: [Balin] Go see the principal

Postby Balin » Mon Sep 26, 2016 11:07 am

Did Raphael write one of the notes? No did four persons each write one Note? Yes Or were any of the notes written by more than one person together? No
Did Adelaide pretend to be Raphael in her Note? No

Were the notes in the Mail? No Found somewhere? No Relevant where Adelaide received them? "Where"? Noish

Did Adelaide read the notes in Front of Raphael? No If yes, was Raphael's reaction relevant?
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Postby rcb » Mon Sep 26, 2016 11:29 am

Relevant from whom Adelaide received the notes? One person? Two? Three?
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Postby Balin » Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:02 pm

Relevant from whom Adelaide received the notes? Yes One person? Two? Three? This
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Postby CoffeeBean » Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:10 pm

Did four individuals each hand a note to Adelaide? Did one person hand her multiple notes? All the notes?
Were the notes delivered to her in another way?
Were the notes given to her on some kind of occasion? Like her birthday?
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Postby Balin » Mon Sep 26, 2016 9:31 pm

Did four individuals each hand a note to Adelaide? Only three individuals, but Yes Did one person hand her multiple notes? No All the notes? No
Were the notes delivered to her in another way? No
Were the notes given to her on some kind of occasion? No Like her birthday? No
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Re: [Balin] Go see the principal

Postby jumpingjacks » Tue Sep 27, 2016 1:09 am

Were all three notes written by people who were also in a relationship with Raphael? Were each of these three individuals aware of Adelaide's existence? Aware that she was Raphael's girlfriend? Did they hand her the note to show her that Raphael was cheating on her? Did each of the three write a note, and then hand her their own note? Or did they each hand her a note written by one of the others? Were any of the notes addressed to Raphael? To Adelaide?
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Postby LemonCurry » Tue Sep 27, 2016 1:30 pm

Were other relevant notes than the four ones written by Adelaide? By other people? Were any of the notes copied?
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Re: [Balin] Go see the principal

Postby Balin » Tue Sep 27, 2016 2:28 pm

Were all three notes written by people who were also in a relationship with Raphael? Not "in a relationship with," but... Were each of these three individuals aware of Adelaide's existence? Yes Aware that she was Raphael's girlfriend? Yes Did they hand her the note to show her that Raphael was cheating on her? No Did each of the three write a note, and then hand her their own note? Yes Or did they each hand her a note written by one of the others? See previous Were any of the notes addressed to Raphael? No To Adelaide? They weren't "addressed" at all

Were other relevant notes than the four ones written by Adelaide? Yes, but their only relevant is figuring out the context in which the notes were written By other people? Only by people mentioned in the puzzle Were any of the notes copied? No
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Re: [Balin] Go see the principal

Postby LemonCurry » Tue Sep 27, 2016 2:38 pm

Were the authors of the three other notes:
H?A?M?F? Friends? Family? Relatives? Neighbours? Strangers?

Is time and place relevant?
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Postby Balin » Wed Sep 28, 2016 3:08 am

Were the authors of the three other notes:
H?A?M?F? All Human, young Adult (around 18-20; both A&R are also around 18-20 years old), Female
Friends? This Family? Relatives? Neighbours? Strangers?

Is time and place relevant? Neither particularly, but they might help you figure out the situation
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Postby GalFisk » Wed Sep 28, 2016 4:08 am

Were the notes given to the friends: in a classroom? At work? At someone's home? At a social gathering? Would it work if they were text messages instead? Did she use notes in order to keep the communication secret? Permanently documented? Just because notes were the easiest way to do it? Was Raphael cheating with one of the recipients? Handwriting relevant? Smell? Had Raphael relevantly lied?
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Postby Balin » Wed Sep 28, 2016 8:14 pm

Were the notes given to the friends: in a classroom? No At work? No At someone's home? Yope At a social gathering? Yope Would it work if they were text messages instead? No Did she use notes in order to keep the communication secret? Yes Permanently documented? No Just because notes were the easiest way to do it? No Was Raphael cheating with one of the recipients? Recipients? But Yes... Handwriting relevant? No Smell? No Had Raphael relevantly lied? Yes, see earlier
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Re: [Balin] Go see the principal

Postby LemonCurry » Thu Sep 29, 2016 5:42 am

Has Raphael cheated with all the three friends?

Was everyone present when Adelaide wrote the note? When the friends wrote the notes? Were they playing a game?

Were the contents of the three notes the answers to a question? To an intimate question? Were the contents all the same?
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Postby Balin » Thu Sep 29, 2016 7:58 pm

Has Raphael cheated with all the three friends? Yes

Was everyone present when Adelaide wrote the note? Everyone except Raphael When the friends wrote the notes? Same answer Were they playing a game? Yes!

Were the contents of the three notes the answers to a question? Yes To an intimate question? Yes Were the contents all the same? Yes
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Re: [Balin] Go see the principal

Postby LemonCurry » Thu Sep 29, 2016 9:09 pm

So Adelaide played a game with her friends that included answering intimate questions anonymously on a sheet of paper, then reading the answers aloud?
Was one of the questions about an experience with a sex partner or date? And all the answers were identically about a catch phrase of Raphael's?
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Postby jumpingjacks » Fri Sep 30, 2016 2:37 pm

Was Adelaide's note identical to the other three? Had she written an answer as well? Or was her note the question?
Was Raphael mentioned by name in any of the notes? Did Adelaide identify him based on something else? A physical characteristic of his? Something that he habitually does? His job? Something about him that is unique to him in the context of this puzzle?
Would the other people who had written/read the notes also have twigged that Raphael was cheating on Adelaide?
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Postby Balin » Fri Sep 30, 2016 4:19 pm

So Adelaide played a game with her friends that included answering intimate questions Yesish anonymously on a sheet of paper, then reading the answers aloud? Yes
Was one of the questions about an experience with a sex partner or date? And all the answers were identically about a catch phrase of Raphael's?

Was Adelaide's note identical to the other three? No Had she written an answer as well? Yes Or was her note the question? No
Was Raphael mentioned by name in any of the notes? Yes Did Adelaide identify him based on something else? No A physical characteristic of his? No Something that he habitually does? No His job? No Something about him that is unique to him in the context of this puzzle? No
Would the other people who had written/read the notes also have twigged that Raphael was cheating on Adelaide? ...YesISH
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Re: [Balin] Go see the principal

Postby jumpingjacks » Sat Oct 01, 2016 8:28 pm

Did the notes consist of lists of names? Was the question something like, "List all the people (in this school/class/group) that you have ever done (a certain intimate activity) with"? Had Adelaide and Rapahel already started going out before they met these friends? And so Adelaide knew that if three people in that group had slept with Raphael, they must have done it while she and Raphael were together?
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Re: [Balin] Go see the principal

Postby Balin » Sat Oct 01, 2016 9:12 pm

Did the notes consist of lists of names? Lists of, no. Names, yes. Was the question something like, "List all the people (in this school/class/group) that you have ever done (a certain intimate activity) with"? No, but OTRT Had Adelaide and Raphael already started going out before they met these friends? Probably, but it would work if not And so Adelaide knew that if three people in that group had slept with Raphael, they must have done it while she and Raphael were together? Not quite, but a very good guess!
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Re: [Balin] Go see the principal

Postby jumpingjacks » Sat Oct 01, 2016 10:57 pm

Were the notes part of a vote? Were they voting for something like "Best penis", and by their voting for Raphael's, implied that they had been in a position to see it?
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Re: [Balin] Go see the principal

Postby Balin » Sun Oct 02, 2016 1:15 pm

Were the notes part of a vote? Noish/Yope Were they voting for something like "Best penis", and by their voting for Raphael's, implied that they had been in a position to see it? Ha! But not this.
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Re: [Balin] Go see the principal

Postby jumpingjacks » Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:19 am

Did Adelaide's note have Raphael's name on it? If so, was R's name the only name on her note? Was his name the only name on the other three notes?
Are there any other words on the note other than names?
Is there a "correct" answer to the question? Or are the answers subjective?
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Re: [Balin] Go see the principal

Postby Balin » Tue Oct 04, 2016 2:57 pm

Did Adelaide's note have Raphael's name on it? No If so, was R's name the only name on her note? See prev Was his name the only name on the other three notes? Yes
Are there any other words on the note other than names? Yes
Is there a "correct" answer to the question? Or are the answers subjective? This
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Re: [Balin] Go see the principal

Postby Balin » Sun Oct 09, 2016 9:31 pm

HINT: Remember they were playing a game.
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Re: [Balin] Go see the principal

Postby jumpingjacks » Mon Oct 10, 2016 1:36 am

Is this a well-known game? Or one they made up?
Revelations about cheating aside, would Raphael have been happy to see his name on the notes? Would he have felt complimented? Insulted?
Relevant who asked the question?
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Postby Balin » Tue Oct 11, 2016 12:09 am

Is this a well-known game? Yes Or one they made up?
Revelations about cheating aside, would Raphael have been happy to see his name on the notes? Yes Would he have felt complimented? Yes Insulted? No
Relevant who asked the question? No
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Re: [Balin] Go see the principal

Postby Balin » Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:04 am

RECAP:

Adelaide and three friends were playing a game. As part of the game, they all wrote notes which Adelaide read. Adelaide's note did not have Raphael's name on it, but the other three notes did, along with some other writing. Reading these notes made Adelaide realize Raphael had cheated on her with all three friends, and she broke up with him.

STILL NEEDED: What's the game, and what's the "other writing" on the notes?
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Re: [Balin] Go see the principal

Postby psymann » Tue Oct 18, 2016 4:06 pm

If only Adelaide, Raphael and one other person had been playing the same game with the same question, and there were only two notes, would:
- Adelaide's note say the same thing?
- The other person's note say the same thing?
- Adelaide have drawn the same conclusion (same except 'cheated on with one person' instead of 'cheated on with three')?
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Re: [Balin] Go see the principal

Postby Balin » Wed Oct 19, 2016 1:15 am

If only Adelaide, Raphael and one other person had been playing the same game with the same question, and there were only two notes, would: (Remember, Raphael was not playing the game)
- Adelaide's note say the same thing? Yes
- The other person's note say the same thing? If the "other person" was one of those playing with Adelaide in the original scenario, Yes
- Adelaide have drawn the same conclusion (same except 'cheated on with one person' instead of 'cheated on with three')? Possibly but not as likely
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Re: [Balin] Go see the principal

Postby Tiger » Wed Oct 19, 2016 3:39 am

Is the game Two Truths and a Lie?
MASH?
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Re: [Balin] Go see the principal

Postby Balin » Wed Oct 19, 2016 1:08 pm

Is the game Two Truths and a Lie? MASH? Good guesses, but neither
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Postby Tiger » Wed Oct 19, 2016 1:30 pm

Is this a drinking game?
Does normal gameplay involve writing down the name of previous sexual partners?
Does the gameplay differ every time?
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Re: [Balin] Go see the principal

Postby Balin » Wed Oct 19, 2016 3:39 pm

Is this a drinking game? No
Does normal gameplay involve writing down the name of previous sexual partners? No
Does the gameplay differ every time? I'm going to give this a Yope.
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Re: [Balin] Go see the principal

Postby Tiger » Thu Oct 20, 2016 1:45 am

Balderdash? Apples to Apples? Scattergories? Fibbage?
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Postby Balin » Thu Oct 20, 2016 3:10 pm

Balderdash? Apples to Apples? Scattergories? Fibbage? No to all, this is OTWT for the type of game.
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Re: [Balin] Go see the principal

Postby psymann » Sat Oct 22, 2016 6:27 am

Did the other three people know, when they wrote down Raphael's name on the notes, that Adelaide would come to the conclusion that she did?

Did they want her to find out about Raphael's adultery?

If they had typed their notes on a computer, printed them out, and Adelaide had read them, would she have come to the same conclusion?
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Postby LemonCurry » Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:15 am

Any sort of charades/pantomime quiz involved?
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Re: [Balin] Go see the principal

Postby Balin » Sat Oct 22, 2016 1:09 pm

Did the other three people know, when they wrote down Raphael's name on the notes, that Adelaide would come to the conclusion that she did? No

Did they want her to find out about Raphael's adultery? No

If they had typed their notes on a computer, printed them out, and Adelaide had read them, would she have come to the same conclusion? Yes

Any sort of charades/pantomime quiz involved? No
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Re: [Balin] Go see the principal

Postby psymann » Sat Oct 22, 2016 4:40 pm

Were the three all asked the same question? to which they wrote their answer as a note?
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Re: [Balin] Go see the principal

Postby Balin » Sun Oct 23, 2016 12:50 am

Were the three all asked the same question? Yes, and Adelaide was asked the same question to which they wrote their answer as a note? Yes
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Re: [Balin] Go see the principal

Postby psymann » Sun Oct 23, 2016 4:44 am

Was the 'other writing' one or more personal details/facts about Raphael (eg the colour of his underpants, the shape of a birthmark, his age, his favourite colour, his tattoos?)
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Re: [Balin] Go see the principal

Postby Balin » Sun Oct 23, 2016 10:33 pm

Was the 'other writing' one or more personal details/facts about Raphael Yope (eg the colour of his underpants, the shape of a birthmark, his age, his favourite colour, his tattoos?) Nothing like these though
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Re: [Balin] Go see the principal

Postby psymann » Mon Oct 24, 2016 2:25 pm

Was Adelaide surprised that they knew these details?
Was Adelaide unaware of these details herself?
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Re: [Balin] Go see the principal

Postby Balin » Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:16 pm

Was Adelaide surprised that they knew these details? Um... perhaps "details" is the wrong word.
Was Adelaide unaware of these details herself? Yes, but see prev
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Re: [Balin] Go see the principal

Postby Balin » Fri Oct 28, 2016 3:43 am

I may have mentioned this earlier, but the game is not usually played with notes. As a somewhat notable HINT, the game's name is one that, since this is a family forum, I won't be able to type.
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Re: [Balin] Go see the principal

Postby Grip » Sat Oct 29, 2016 10:07 pm

Is the game name an obscene word?
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Postby jumpingjacks » Sat Oct 29, 2016 10:32 pm

Is it a body part?
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Re: [Balin] Go see the principal

Postby Balin » Sun Oct 30, 2016 3:21 pm

Is the game name an obscene word? The game name has three words, the first of which is obscene.

Is it a body part? No
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Re: [Balin] Go see the principal

Postby Westing1992 » Sun Oct 30, 2016 4:59 pm

(Have sex with), Marry, Kill?
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Re: [Balin] Go see the principal

Postby Balin » Sun Oct 30, 2016 5:00 pm

(Have sex with), Marry, Kill? That's the game.
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Re: [Balin] Go see the principal

Postby jumpingjacks » Sun Oct 30, 2016 8:29 pm

Funny, I've always heard this game referred to as "Shoot, shag, marry." Not quite as rude! Haha. Did the other notes choose Raphael as the one they would shag? Did they add any other comments along with their choice? Did they praise his skills, thus revealing that they had had sex with him before?
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Re: [Balin] Go see the principal

Postby Balin » Sun Oct 30, 2016 11:12 pm

Funny, I've always heard this game referred to as "Shoot, shag, marry." Not quite as rude! Haha. "Shag" is a much less common euphemism in the US. And Americans rarely pass up a chance to swear.
Also I note that this forum doesn't censor "shag" like the old forum did. (Yes, I read Woubit puzzles in the archives.)

Did the other notes choose Raphael as the one they would shag? Yes Did they add any other comments along with their choice? Yes! Did they praise his skills, thus revealing that they had had sex with him before? Good idea, but No.
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Re: [Balin] Go see the principal

Postby Grip » Mon Oct 31, 2016 12:29 am

Is what got him single the comments in the notes? or merely that the three others picked him to S?
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Re: [Balin] Go see the principal

Postby jumpingjacks » Mon Oct 31, 2016 11:36 am

Did they choose Raphael, and write a comment like, "I already do!" or "Just did it last week!" etc?
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Re: [Balin] Go see the principal

Postby Balin » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:25 pm

Is what got him single the comments in the notes? Yes or merely that the three others picked him to S?

Did they choose Raphael, and write a comment like, "I already do!" or "Just did it last week!" etc? Yes!

****SPOILER****

Adelaide and three friends were playing "F/Marry/Kill." They decided to make their picks with each of the other girls' boyfriends (that's why Adelaide's note couldn't have Raphael) with notes so their answers would be anonymous. Adelaide collected all the "F" notes and read them; aside from her own, the other three notes said, "Raphael, and I already have." Raphael had indeed cheated on Adelaide with each of the others, and they all individually put it as a joke, not thinking Adelaide would think them serious. But because all three of them put the same comment, Adelaide realized Raphael must have actually cheated, and broke up with him.

Nicely done. Unfortunately I don't have any Halloween puzzles to post now.
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Re: [Balin] (*SOLVED*) Go see the principal

Postby Tiger » Tue Nov 01, 2016 3:47 pm

Three of my friends dressed up as fuck/marry/kill on Halloween - a tramp, a bride, and a murderer!
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Re: [Balin] (*SOLVED*) Go see the principal

Postby Balin » Wed Nov 02, 2016 12:54 pm

I guess that makes this a Halloween puzzle after all!
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Re: [Balin] (*SOLVED*) Go see the principal

Postby psymann » Wed Nov 02, 2016 1:19 pm

I got a bit lost with this one when it got to guessing the game - I've never heard of the game (or any variant).

I'm better with Scrabble. ;-)
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