[Balin] It was not Ozzie Smith

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[Balin] It was not Ozzie Smith

Postby Balin » Wed Oct 05, 2016 1:07 am

A major league baseball player once made a request, which was denied, involving a headstand. What was it?
Baseball player = H/A/M
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Re: [Balin] It was not Ozzie Smith

Postby Twilightseeker » Wed Oct 05, 2016 2:51 am

Did he ask someone else to do a headstand? Did he request to do one himself? Not do one?
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Re: [Balin] It was not Ozzie Smith

Postby Balin » Wed Oct 05, 2016 1:58 pm

Did he ask someone else to do a headstand? No Did he request to do one himself? No, but the request involved him theoretically doing a headstand Not do one? No
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Re: [Balin] It was not Ozzie Smith

Postby Tiger » Wed Oct 05, 2016 2:32 pm

Is yoga relevant?
Is there a bet involved?
Does the baseball player have any relevant superstitions?
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Re: [Balin] It was not Ozzie Smith

Postby LemonCurry » Wed Oct 05, 2016 3:08 pm

Are loopholes in the rules relevant? The strike Zone? Is his position relevant?
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Re: [Balin] It was not Ozzie Smith

Postby Balin » Thu Oct 06, 2016 3:50 pm

Is yoga relevant?
Is there a bet involved?
Does the baseball player have any relevant superstitions?
Are loopholes in the rules relevant? The strike Zone? Is his position relevant?
No to all
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Re: [Balin] It was not Ozzie Smith

Postby Tiger » Fri Oct 07, 2016 3:34 pm

Would the headstand have been during a game?
Would doing a headstand enable him to see/do something else?
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Re: [Balin] It was not Ozzie Smith

Postby Balin » Fri Oct 07, 2016 11:15 pm

Would the headstand have been during a game? Yes
Would doing a headstand enable him to see/do something else? No
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Re: [Balin] It was not Ozzie Smith

Postby Tiger » Sat Oct 08, 2016 7:59 pm

Is he hoping a certain someone sees him doing this?
Does he want to do this on television?
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Re: [Balin] It was not Ozzie Smith

Postby Balin » Sun Oct 09, 2016 9:29 pm

Is he hoping a certain someone sees him doing this? No
Does he want to do this on television? No/Irrel
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Re: [Balin] It was not Ozzie Smith

Postby peter365 » Mon Oct 10, 2016 8:24 am

Is his position relevant? Is he a shortstop? Is he trying to gain an advantage ? Does he ask the umpire? Is there some cheating or accusation of cheating going on?

Mention of Ozzie Smith always makes me think of the brilliant Simpsons softball episode, I take it that's not relevant?
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Re: [Balin] It was not Ozzie Smith

Postby LemonCurry » Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:59 am

Could the same situation happen with an amateur baseball player?
With a professional Football? Soccer? Basketball? Hockey? Chess player?

Are jersey numbers relevant? Is reading a jersey number upside down involved?
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Re: [Balin] It was not Ozzie Smith

Postby Balin » Tue Oct 11, 2016 12:08 am

Is his position relevant? No Is he a shortstop? No Is he trying to gain an advantage? No Does he ask the umpire? No Is there some cheating or accusation of cheating going on? No

Mention of Ozzie Smith always makes me think of the brilliant Simpsons softball episode, I take it that's not relevant? Sorry, but No. (Haven't seen the episode but I know that Terry Cashman gets more requests for "Talkin' Softball" (from the episode) than "Talkin' Baseball" (his song that he parodied for the episode).)

Could the same situation happen with an amateur baseball player? With a professional Football? Soccer? Basketball? Hockey? Theoretically, Yes to all of these
Chess player? No

Are jersey numbers relevant? Yes Is reading a jersey number upside down involved? Yes!
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Re: [Balin] It was not Ozzie Smith

Postby Twilightseeker » Tue Oct 11, 2016 6:45 am

Is another number or another player's number relevant? Is the number itself something like 93/36, 18/81, 14/41?
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Re: [Balin] It was not Ozzie Smith

Postby peter365 » Tue Oct 11, 2016 7:46 am

Did he want to pay tribute to someone? who had died?


The simpsons softball episode is by far and away my favourite. As a baseball fan Balin you simply must watch it.
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Re: [Balin] It was not Ozzie Smith

Postby Balin » Tue Oct 11, 2016 2:14 pm

Is another number or another player's number relevant? No Is the number itself something like 93/36, 18/81, 14/41? Good guesses, but No

Did he want to pay tribute to someone? who had died? Neither

The simpsons softball episode is by far and away my favourite. As a baseball fan Balin you simply must watch it. I'll add it to my Peter365-recommended list.
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Re: [Balin] It was not Ozzie Smith

Postby Balin » Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:06 am

RECAP:

The baseball player's number would have said something if he were standing upside-down.

HINT: The request that was turned down was to change his number to a certain three-digit number.
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Re: [Balin] It was not Ozzie Smith

Postby psymann » Mon Oct 17, 2016 1:50 pm

Did the upside-down numbers look like an English word because the upside-down numbers look like letters? Eg '3' looks like 'E', or '4' looks like 'H' ?
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Re: [Balin] It was not Ozzie Smith

Postby Balin » Tue Oct 18, 2016 2:31 pm

Did the upside-down numbers look like an English word because the upside-down numbers look like letters? Yes Eg '3' looks like 'E', This is one of the relevant numbers/letters or '4' looks like 'H' ? But not this one
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Re: [Balin] It was not Ozzie Smith

Postby psymann » Tue Oct 18, 2016 2:47 pm

Would the word be widely considered impolite? racist? sexist? funny?

Was his request denied because it was known that his word would be inappropriate/offensive? Or did they think the word was appropriate/inoffensive, just not an appropriate use of a jersey number? Or did they not even know he was going to be doing a headstand?

Does the word use:
1 = I
5 = S
6 = g
7 = L
8 = B
9 = b
0 = O

And it's an English word in the dictionary, not an acronym/initials?
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Re: [Balin] It was not Ozzie Smith

Postby Balin » Wed Oct 19, 2016 1:12 am

Would the word be widely considered impolite? racist? sexist? funny? No to all

Was his request denied because it was known that his word would be inappropriate/offensive? Or did they think the word was appropriate/inoffensive, just not an appropriate use of a jersey number? Or did they not even know he was going to be doing a headstand? The request was denied because MLB does not allow three-digit numbers.

Does the word use:
1 = I
5 = S
6 = g
7 = L This, No to rest
8 = B
9 = b
0 = O

And it's an English word in the dictionary, not an acronym/initials? Correct, but beware an FA.
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Re: [Balin] It was not Ozzie Smith

Postby psymann » Wed Oct 19, 2016 10:35 am

Not a lot of words you can get with just E and L. LEE. EEL. ELL. ELEphant. hELLo!

Was he planning on doing this headstand on his own?
or were there others involved, eg someone standing next to him with 'PHANT' on his jersey ;-)

Did he want to make word LEE? Or the word EEL?
Was there a third letter involved apart from E and L?
Was it a three-letter word?
Did he actually want to make a word?
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Re: [Balin] It was not Ozzie Smith

Postby Balin » Wed Oct 19, 2016 1:10 pm

Not a lot of words you can get with just E and L. LEE. EEL. ELL. ELEphant. hELLo! wELL done on that list!

Was he planning on doing this headstand on his own? Yes
or were there others involved, eg someone standing next to him with 'PHANT' on his jersey ;-) Ha! No, though.

Did he want to make word LEE? This, because... Or the word EEL? No
Was there a third letter involved apart from E and L? No, see above
Was it a three-letter word? Yes, see above
Did he actually want to make a word? See above
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Re: [Balin] It was not Ozzie Smith

Postby Tiger » Wed Oct 19, 2016 1:28 pm

Is Lee someone's first name? Last name?
His own name?
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Re: [Balin] It was not Ozzie Smith

Postby psymann » Wed Oct 19, 2016 2:47 pm

Was he particularly keen to make reference to a sheltered hillside? Had he perhaps foreseen a situation where he might have been playing sport, seen a storm coming, and needed a visual way to command all the spectators to avoid the worst of it with strategic hillside positioning?
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Re: [Balin] It was not Ozzie Smith

Postby Balin » Wed Oct 19, 2016 3:43 pm

Is Lee someone's first name? Last name? Yes
His own name? Yes, and that's a solve.

Was he particularly keen to make reference to a sheltered hillside? Had he perhaps foreseen a situation where he might have been playing sport, seen a storm coming, and needed a visual way to command all the spectators to avoid the worst of it with strategic hillside positioning? ...Given the rest of what comes out of his mind, this is actually feasible. It's not the answer, though; this is.

****SPOILER****

Bill "Spaceman" Lee, Major League Baseball pitcher from 1969 to 1982, once requested to change his uniform number from 37 to 337. His claimed reason was "so I could stand on my head and everyone would still know who was pitching."
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