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Postby Solong » Fri Oct 14, 2016 11:31 pm

It seems to happen about every 100 years, starting in 1814.
Still, it may miss us, but the Australians should be prepared.
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Postby JenBurdoo » Fri Oct 14, 2016 11:52 pm

Something weather-related? Space-related? Animal-related?
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Postby Solong » Sat Oct 15, 2016 7:17 pm

Something weather-related? Space-related? No to both. Animal-related? Yes, if humans are considered as animals.
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Postby GalFisk » Sun Oct 16, 2016 12:40 pm

Is it silly? Criminal? Evil? Fun? Is it something humans do? Something that happens to humans? Is it great wars?
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Postby Solong » Sun Oct 16, 2016 3:00 pm

Is it silly? It seems silly, but was actually pretty serious. Criminal? Evil? Fun? No to these. Is it something humans do? Caused by something humans do. Something that happens to humans? Yes. Is it great wars? No, something smaller and more localized.
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Postby hackum » Sun Oct 16, 2016 4:04 pm

Hi!

Is "it" related to fashion? Sports? Language? Arts? Relgion?

When you say "us" do you mean humanity as a whole or a specific country/place, like Europe or USA?

Has "it" happened in Australia before?
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Postby Twilightseeker » Sun Oct 16, 2016 11:20 pm

Something to do with the environment? pollution? carbon? global warming?
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Postby Solong » Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:44 pm

Hi! Good morning, and welcome to these hallowed halls!

Is "it" related to fashion? Sports? Language? Arts? Relgion? No to all.

When you say "us" do you mean humanity as a whole or a specific country/place, A specific place. like Europe or USA? more specific than that. One event was in the UK, the other in the US.

Has "it" happened in Australia before? AFAIK, no.
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Postby Solong » Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:47 pm

Something to do with the environment? The events had an effect on the environment. pollution? Yope. carbon? global warming? No to these.
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Postby psymann » Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:32 pm

Should Australians be prepared because of:
- their location on Earth?
- their current obsession with mining?
- their climate?
- their treatment of refugees?
- their population?

Should Australians be any more prepared than New Zealanders? Fijians? South Africans? Nepalese? Latvians?

The ~1814 and ~1914 events have presumably already happened. Has the ~2014 event already occurred?
Should Australians be preparing for something any time now, or for something in approx 100 years? Or longer in the future?
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Postby Solong » Tue Oct 18, 2016 2:20 am

Should Australians be prepared because of:
- their location on Earth? Yope

- their current obsession with mining?
- their climate?
- their treatment of refugees?
- their population? No to all

Should Australians be any more prepared than New Zealanders? Fijians? Only because Australia is a continent.South Africans? Nepalese? It could also happen in Africa or Asia. Latvians? Well, this sort of thing has already happened in Europe, if you count the UK as part of Europe. No real reason it couldn't happen there again.

The ~1814 and ~1914 events have presumably already happened. Has the ~2014 event already occurred? They didn't happen exactly on a 100-year interval, only approximate
Should Australians be preparing for something any time now, or for something in approx 100 years? Or longer in the future? This isn't the sort of thing that people really prepare for. Might happen any day, might not happen for 100 years or longer.
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Postby Tiger » Tue Oct 18, 2016 2:23 am

Are time-zoned relevant?
Is pitch tar relevant?
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Postby hackum » Tue Oct 18, 2016 10:50 am

Are politics involved? Anything to do with policy-making?
Are federal territories relevant? How about colonisation or independence of states?
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Postby psymann » Tue Oct 18, 2016 11:12 am

The ~1814 and ~1914 events have presumably already happened. Has the ~2014 event already occurred? They didn't happen exactly on a 100-year interval, only approximate


Sorry, the squiggle-tilda-symbol-thing came out as a straight line in this font; it was meant to mean 'approximate'. Let me rephrase:

Is it true that: (a) The last event was recent (in the last few years) and the next one will be in approximately 100 years' time?
Or is it true that: (b) The last event was approximately 100 years ago, and the next one will be any time in the next few years?

Does the event occur only in one place each time it occurs?

Does the event affect the whole of the continent at once?
When the event affected the UK, did it also affect:
- Ireland?
- France?
- Russia (which is part in Europe and part not)? Any of it? All of it?
- Malta (separated from the mainland and an island in the Mediterranean)?
- Falkland Islands (kind-of-still-related to the UK but nowhere near Europe)?

Did it affect every person within the area it affected?
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Postby Solong » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:40 pm

Are time-zoned relevant? No.
Is pitch tar relevant? No. Do you have something specific in mind? Might be worthwhile to explore.
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Postby Solong » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:42 pm

Are politics involved? Anything to do with policy-making?
Are federal territories relevant? How about colonisation or independence of states? No to all. Politics not remotely involved.
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Postby Solong » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:47 pm

Sorry, the squiggle-tilda-symbol-thing came out as a straight line in this font; it was meant to mean 'approximate'. Let me rephrase:

Is it true that: (a) The last event was recent (in the last few years) and the next one will be in approximately 100 years' time?
Or is it true that: (b) The last event was approximately 100 years ago, yes and the next one will be any time in the next few years? 'Could be, not necessarily 'will be.'

Does the event occur only in one place each time it occurs? Yes

Does the event affect the whole of the continent at once?
When the event affected the UK, did it also affect:
- Ireland?
- France?
- Russia (which is part in Europe and part not)? Any of it? All of it?
- Malta (separated from the mainland and an island in the Mediterranean)?
- Falkland Islands (kind-of-still-related to the UK but nowhere near Europe)? No to all. The events were highly localized.

Did it affect every person within the area it affected? As in every disaster, there were those who survived and those who did not. There's a free clue: the events were disasters.
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Postby Tiger » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:49 pm

Solong wrote:Is pitch tar relevant? No. Do you have something specific in mind? Might be worthwhile to explore.


When I read the puzzle statement, I immediately thought of the Pitch drop experiment. In 1927, some researchers at the University of Queensland poured hot tar into a funnel with a beaker underneath to catch the drips. Since the start of the experiment 89 years ago, only 9 drops have fallen since the pitch is so viscous and flows so incredibly slowly. So, not every 100 years and not beginning in 1814, but this experiment does take place in Australia...

Is it relevant that technology has advanced so much since the last "event"?
Smartphones / computers / webcams relevant?
What about meteors?
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Postby psymann » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:57 pm

Is there any reason to believe the next event/disaster is more likely to occur next in Australia than France?
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Postby Solong » Wed Oct 19, 2016 4:24 pm

When I read the puzzle statement, I immediately thought of the Pitch drop experiment. In 1927, some researchers at the University of Queensland poured hot tar into a funnel with a beaker underneath to catch the drips. Since the start of the experiment 89 years ago, only 9 drops have fallen since the pitch is so viscous and flows so incredibly slowly. So, not every 100 years and not beginning in 1814, but this experiment does take place in Australia... Interesting. There is a point or two of similarity, but on the whole, no.

Is it relevant that technology has advanced so much since the last "event"? Technology has advanced, but that doesn't keep disasters from happening.
Smartphones / computers / webcams relevant?
What about meteors? No to all.
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Postby Solong » Wed Oct 19, 2016 4:28 pm

Is there any reason to believe the next event/disaster is more likely to occur next in Australia than France? Since the first incident was in Europe (the UK) and the second in the US, it would be fair and fitting if the third would be in Australasia, but no reason to think it would happen that way. Life often isn't faur,
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Postby GalFisk » Wed Oct 19, 2016 4:34 pm

Is weather involved? Does something happen underground? Is there relevant wind? Water? Disease? Are houses destroyed? Roads? The electric grid? Do people die suddenly? From injuries? Illness? Exposure? Can this thing affect a whole city?
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Postby Twilightseeker » Wed Oct 19, 2016 10:18 pm

Is it something to do with the shifting of plate tectonics?
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Postby Tiger » Thu Oct 20, 2016 1:41 am

Does anything fall from the sky?
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Postby Solong » Thu Oct 20, 2016 4:34 pm

Is weather involved? Does something happen underground? No and no.Is there relevant wind?No. Water? No, but explore. Disease? No.Are houses destroyed? Roads? Noish or n.r. Any such damage was collateral. The electric grid? n.r. Do people die suddenly? From injuries? Illness? Exposure? No or n.r. to all Can this thing affect a whole city? Both happened in large cities, and did not affect the entire city.
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Postby Solong » Thu Oct 20, 2016 4:35 pm

Is it something to do with the shifting of plate tectonics? No
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Postby Solong » Thu Oct 20, 2016 4:37 pm

Does anything fall from the sky? Might have seemed like it, but no.
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Postby psymann » Thu Oct 20, 2016 4:41 pm

It seems to happen about every 100 years, starting in 1814.
Still, it may miss us, but the Australians should be prepared.


Is this equally true:

An environmental disaster has happened twice, in 1814 (in the UK) and some time around 1914 (in the US).
It may or may not happen again, and everyone on Earth should be equally prepared, apart from the fact that there's not really anything you can do to prepare anyway.



So are we just trying to identify an environmental disaster that has happened twice in Earth's history - once in 1814 in the UK, once in the early 20th century in the US?
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Postby GalFisk » Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:25 pm

Aircraft relevant? Insects? Mammals? Other animals? Pollution? Smog? Drought?
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Postby Solong » Fri Oct 21, 2016 4:46 pm

Is this equally true:

An environmental disaster has happened twice, in 1814 only once (in the UK) and some time around 1914 (in the US).Yes, within 5 years.
It may or may not happen again, and everyone on Earth should be equally prepared, apart from the fact that there's not really anything you can do to prepare anyway. I know it sounds confusing, but aside from good safety practices, there is no way of preventing these specific kinds of events.



So are we just trying to identify an environmental disaster that has happened twice in Earth's history - once in 1814 in the UK, once in the early 20th century in the US?DOYD of 'environmental disaster.'
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Postby Solong » Fri Oct 21, 2016 4:48 pm

Aircraft relevant? Insects? Mammals? Other animals? Pollution? Yes, DOYD 'pollution.' All others, no.Smog? Drought?
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Postby Twilightseeker » Fri Oct 21, 2016 11:09 pm

Are volcanoes, vog, or ash involved?
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Postby Solong » Sat Oct 22, 2016 1:40 am

Are volcanoes, vog, or ash involved? No to all.
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Postby Twilightseeker » Sat Oct 22, 2016 2:35 am

Was it something such as an oil spill? An accident caused by humans?
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Postby Solong » Sat Oct 22, 2016 4:35 pm

Was it something such as an oil spill? No, but OTRTAn accident caused by humans? yES
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Postby psymann » Sat Oct 22, 2016 4:46 pm

Was it the same accident both times?

Did the accident take place in the UK in 1814 and in the US in 1914ish? or did either/both accidents happen elsewhere?

Was there some sort of water contamination? Or contamination of something that lived in water?
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Postby Acridian9 » Sat Oct 22, 2016 5:10 pm

Did something explode? collapse? Was a vehicle involved?
A liquid or another oily substance involved ?
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Postby Twilightseeker » Sun Oct 23, 2016 1:12 am

Is this type of spill something that could be spilled probably in any country/place? Is it a substance that is found in a lot of places? Is there something odd/unusual about this spill? Is it not a substance one might expect to cause such a disaster?
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Postby GalFisk » Sun Oct 23, 2016 9:50 am

Is the spill from a dam? Stationary tank? Mobile tanker? Pipeline? Ship? Does it happen when the liquid is moved? Processed? Does it flood something relevant? Sewage relevant? Beverages? Petroleum products? Drinking water?
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Postby Solong » Sun Oct 23, 2016 11:54 pm

Was it the same accident both times? Not precisely the same, but very similar.

Did the accident take place in the UK in 1814 and in the US in 1914ish? Yes.or did either/both accidents happen elsewhere? Not AFAIK.

Was there some sort of water contamination? Or contamination of something that lived in water? Could have involved some water contamination, especially the one in the US, but not what made these disasters disastrous.
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Postby Solong » Sun Oct 23, 2016 11:56 pm

Did something explode? collapse? Yope - OTRT Was a vehicle involved? No
A liquid Yew! or another oily substance involved ?
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Postby Solong » Mon Oct 24, 2016 12:03 am

Is this type of spill something that could be spilled probably in any country/place? In many places, though I wouldn't say all.Is it a substance that is found in a lot of places? as before.Is there something odd/unusual about this spill? IYes!s it not a substance one might expect to cause such a disaster? Yes, it was not! Not the same substance in both cases, but both unexpected.
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Postby Solong » Mon Oct 24, 2016 12:12 am

Is the spill from a dam? Stationary tank? This Mobile tanker? Pipeline? Ship? Does it happen when the liquid is moved? Processed? Most likely just sitting there. Does it flood something relevant? Yes, anything that was in its way. Sewage relevant? No. Beverages? In the UK case in 1814, very much so!. In the US case, more remotely.Petroleum products? Drinking water? No to both..

Getting very close. Here's another hint: the US event happened in 1919. A search engine is permitted at this point.
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Postby Acridian9 » Mon Oct 24, 2016 2:02 am

Beverage for the UK: wine? beer? hard liquor?
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Postby GalFisk » Mon Oct 24, 2016 7:11 am

Was the US one molasses?
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Postby Solong » Mon Oct 24, 2016 4:18 pm

Beverage for the UK: wine? beer? Yes. hard liquor?
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Postby Solong » Mon Oct 24, 2016 4:31 pm

Was the US one molasses? YES
[b]SPOILER[
in London in 1814, a vat containing 135K gallons of beer ruptured, flooding the streets, killing eight people
On January 15, 1919, in the North End distract of Boston, MA, a molasses storage tank burst, sending its contents into the streets at 35 m.p.h. 21 people were killed and over 150 injured.
Now it's about time for another such bizarre occurrence. Since these things seem to happen in English-speaking countries, maybe Australia or NZ is next. Wiz, I don't know what you have to watch out for, but WATCH OUT!/b]
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Postby Solong » Mon Oct 24, 2016 4:36 pm

Let me try again.
Was the US one molasses? YES
SPOILER
in London in 1814, a vat containing 135K gallons of beer ruptured, flooding the streets, killing eight people
On January 15, 1919, in the North End distract of Boston, MA, a molasses storage tank burst, sending its contents into the streets at 35 m.p.h. 21 people were killed and over 150 injured.
Now it's about time for another such bizarre occurrence. Since these things seem to happen in English-speaking countries, maybe Australia or NZ is next. Wiz, I don't know what you have to watch out for, but WATCH OUT!
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