[Balin] An old-fashioned argument

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[Balin] An old-fashioned argument

Postby Balin » Tue Nov 08, 2016 3:29 am

Sibella appealed to authority in order to convince Rubert to bring her a drink. How?
Sibella = H/A/F
Rubert = H/A/M
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Re: [Balin] An old-fashioned argument

Postby jumpingjacks » Tue Nov 08, 2016 3:58 am

Authority - did she actually appeal to a person who was in a position of authority? Was this person a ham (sandwich)?
Which of the following is the "authority" - the bar manager? bouncer? other bar staff? police? fire brigade? military? government representative? someone who could be considered an expert on something? an organisation? her or Rubert's parents? Or is Rubert himself the authority?
Did she do her appeal face to face? Over the phone? Through text message? Online?
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Re: [Balin] An old-fashioned argument

Postby Twilightseeker » Tue Nov 08, 2016 5:29 am

Are Sibella and Rupert friends? lovers? married? siblings? relatives? coworkers? acquaintances? strangers? enemies? rivals? Are their ages relevant?

Type of drink relevant? Alcoholic? Would this work with an item of food instead of a drink?
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Re: [Balin] An old-fashioned argument

Postby Balin » Tue Nov 08, 2016 1:02 pm

Authority - did she actually appeal to a person who was in a position of authority? No Was this person a ham (sandwich)? Delicious No
Which of the following is the "authority" - the bar manager? bouncer? other bar staff? FA to these three police? fire brigade? military? government representative? someone who could be considered an expert on something? an organisation? her or Rubert's parents? Or is Rubert himself the authority? No to all
Did she do her appeal face to face? This Over the phone? Through text message? Online?

Are Sibella and Rupert friends? lovers? married? This siblings? relatives? coworkers? acquaintances? strangers? enemies? rivals? Are their ages relevant? No

Type of drink relevant? Yes Alcoholic? No Would this work with an item of food instead of a drink? No
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Re: [Balin] An old-fashioned argument

Postby Grip » Tue Nov 08, 2016 1:52 pm

That is some interesting names for the folks involved in this scenario!

Drink = soda? juice? energy drink? coffee?

Did this occur in the couples home? more than one place?

Is there a bet involved here?

Is the authority a reference book of some kind?
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Re: [Balin] An old-fashioned argument

Postby Balin » Tue Nov 08, 2016 5:58 pm

That is some interesting names for the folks involved in this scenario! They're not relevant to the situation, but:
Sibella is one of the characters in the film "Kind Hearts and Coronets" and its musical adaptation "A Gentleman's Guide to Love and Murder."
Rubert is the English translation of one of the witnesses' names in "Dai Gyakuten Saiban" (the Ace Attorney game set mostly in Victorian London).


Drink = soda? juice? energy drink? coffee? This

Did this occur in the couples home? Yes more than one place? No

Is there a bet involved here? No

Is the authority a reference No book Yes of some kind?
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Re: [Balin] An old-fashioned argument

Postby Grip » Tue Nov 08, 2016 6:04 pm

Kind Hearts and Coronets...is that the Ealing movie where Alec Guinness plays virtually every part? I've never seen it but heard it was funny.

Was the book about coffee? was it a work of fiction?

Is how coffee made relevant?

This have anything to do with CoffeeBean? :)
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Re: [Balin] An old-fashioned argument

Postby Balin » Tue Nov 08, 2016 6:05 pm

Kind Hearts and Coronets...is that the Ealing movie where Alec Guinness plays virtually every part? I've never seen it but heard it was funny. Yes – I have seen it, and it's hilarious.

Was the book about coffee? No was it a work of fiction? No

Is how coffee made relevant? Yes

This have anything to do with CoffeeBean? :) Sorry – No.
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Re: [Balin] An old-fashioned argument

Postby Grip » Tue Nov 08, 2016 6:10 pm

Was the book non-fiction? was it about how coffee is made?

CoffeeBean is not involved, but are coffee beans relevant?
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Re: [Balin] An old-fashioned argument

Postby jumpingjacks » Tue Nov 08, 2016 6:32 pm

Is a particular brand of coffee relevant? Does Rubert make her a coffee? Does he go out to buy her a coffee? Do they have a coffee machine in the house? Does he make an instant coffee? Does he make the coffee with beans?
Are any puns relevant?
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Re: [Balin] An old-fashioned argument

Postby Balin » Wed Nov 09, 2016 12:05 am

Was the book non-fiction? Yes was it about how coffee is made? No

CoffeeBean is not involved, but are coffee beans relevant? Not really; only as part of "how coffee is made"

Is a particular brand of coffee relevant? No Does Rubert make her a coffee? Yes Does he go out to buy her a coffee? No Do they have a coffee machine in the house? Yes, probably Does he make an instant coffee? No Does he make the coffee with beans? Yes
Are any puns relevant? Yes =D
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Re: [Balin] An old-fashioned argument

Postby jumpingjacks » Wed Nov 09, 2016 12:35 am

Why did the hipster burn his tongue? He sipped his coffee before it was cool. :D

Is the pun on the word "coffee"? Another word for coffee? espresso, latte, mocha etc?
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Re: [Balin] An old-fashioned argument

Postby peter365 » Wed Nov 09, 2016 10:56 am

Did she confuse Barrista with Barrister?

BTW I was hoping the Sibella character was named for 'Kind Hearts and Coronets' . In my humble opinion it's by far and away the best of the Ealing comedies and in fact is one of the greatest comedies ever made. For anyone following this puzzle who hasn't seen it I strongly recommend that you do so.
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Re: [Balin] An old-fashioned argument

Postby Grip » Wed Nov 09, 2016 12:08 pm

Was Rubert annoyed he had to make the coffee? or was he glad to do so?
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Re: [Balin] An old-fashioned argument

Postby Balin » Wed Nov 09, 2016 12:30 pm

Why did the hipster burn his tongue? He sipped his coffee before it was cool. :D Ha!

Is the pun on the word "coffee"? Another word for coffee? espresso, latte, mocha etc? None of these

Was Rubert annoyed he had to make the coffee? This or was he glad to do so?

Did she confuse Barrista with Barrister? No

BTW I was hoping the Sibella character was named for 'Kind Hearts and Coronets' . In my humble opinion it's by far and away the best of the Ealing comedies and in fact is one of the greatest comedies ever made. For anyone following this puzzle who hasn't seen it I strongly recommend that you do so. Let me add to that recommendation. I also strongly recommend the musical based on it, "A Gentleman's Guide to Love and Murder." It is hilarious.
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Re: [Balin] An old-fashioned argument

Postby Grip » Wed Nov 09, 2016 12:38 pm

Is any specific ingredient in making coffee being punned on?
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Re: [Balin] An old-fashioned argument

Postby Balin » Wed Nov 09, 2016 12:57 pm

Is any specific ingredient in making coffee being punned on? No
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Re: [Balin] An old-fashioned argument

Postby Grip » Wed Nov 09, 2016 1:06 pm

Is their a pun involved in how certain books are referred to as "coffee table books?"

Does S even actually like coffee?
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Re: [Balin] An old-fashioned argument

Postby Balin » Wed Nov 09, 2016 1:11 pm

Is their a pun involved in how certain books are referred to as "coffee table books?" No

Does S even actually like coffee? Yes
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Re: [Balin] An old-fashioned argument

Postby Grip » Wed Nov 09, 2016 1:20 pm

Did S trick R in some way?

is it relevant why S didn't just make coffee for herself?
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Re: [Balin] An old-fashioned argument

Postby Balin » Wed Nov 09, 2016 3:13 pm

Did S trick R in some way? Yope

is it relevant why S didn't just make coffee for herself? Yope
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Re: [Balin] An old-fashioned argument

Postby Grip » Wed Nov 09, 2016 7:17 pm

Time of day relevant?

Did the book contain instructions on how to make coffee? make better coffee? was it a cookbook?
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Re: [Balin] An old-fashioned argument

Postby Balin » Thu Nov 10, 2016 12:50 am

Time of day relevant? No

Did the book contain instructions on how to make coffee? make better coffee? was it a cookbook? No to all
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Re: [Balin] An old-fashioned argument

Postby Twilightseeker » Thu Nov 10, 2016 1:40 am

Was the pun related to the word "brew"? Was the book about something in history?
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Re: [Balin] An old-fashioned argument

Postby Balin » Thu Nov 10, 2016 2:12 pm

Was the pun related to the word "brew"? Yes Was the book about something in history? ...Yes
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Re: [Balin] An old-fashioned argument

Postby Grip » Sun Nov 13, 2016 11:35 pm

Did S want to embarrass/humble R for some reason?
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Re: [Balin] An old-fashioned argument

Postby GalFisk » Mon Nov 14, 2016 4:37 am

Brewers relevant? Breweries? Brewing alcohol? Edit: Hebrew?
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Re: [Balin] An old-fashioned argument

Postby peter365 » Mon Nov 14, 2016 9:23 am

Long shot this but is the book religious in nature the Bible? the Torah? and Sibella is making a he brews /hebrews pun?

Edit: I've only just noticed that Galfisk had mentioned Hebrews.
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Re: [Balin] An old-fashioned argument

Postby Twilightseeker » Mon Nov 14, 2016 10:33 am

Is this a well-known book? A history book? A historical fiction? An account of a war? A history of particular place or people?

Is the word "brute" or "brutal" involved?
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Re: [Balin] An old-fashioned argument

Postby Balin » Mon Nov 14, 2016 5:23 pm

Brewers relevant? Breweries? Brewing alcohol? Edit: Hebrew? This

Long shot this but is the book religious in nature the Bible? Yes the Torah? and Sibella is making a he brews /hebrews pun? Yes

Edit: I've only just noticed that Galfisk had mentioned Hebrews. You two can share credit for the

****SPOILER****

A joke I read as a kid:

A man gets up one morning and goes downstairs. Seeing his wife in the kitchen, he asks her to make him a cup of coffee.
To his surprise, she shakes her head. "The Bible says the man makes the coffee."
The man laughs. "I've read the Bible, my dear," he says, "and nowhere does it mention making coffee."
His wife says, "No, it does, and I'll prove it."
She gets the family Bible and starts flipping through it, then stops and points. "Here!" she says triumphantly.
The man looks, and sees one word at the top of the page:
HEBREWS

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Re: [Balin] (*SOLVED*) An old-fashioned argument

Postby Grip » Mon Nov 14, 2016 5:25 pm

Good puzzle, but awful joke!
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Re: [Balin] (*SOLVED*) An old-fashioned argument

Postby GalFisk » Mon Nov 14, 2016 5:54 pm

Haha! I love puns, both as humor and as instruments of... punishment.
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Re: [Balin] (*SOLVED*) An old-fashioned argument

Postby jumpingjacks » Tue Nov 15, 2016 12:44 am

Haha!! I love this!!
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Re: [Balin] (*SOLVED*) An old-fashioned argument

Postby peter365 » Tue Nov 15, 2016 8:17 am

Bad puns make for great puzzles.
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