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(Grip) Can't Think of a Clever Puzzle Title

Postby Grip » Mon Nov 28, 2016 7:23 pm

A man is killed in a bar. The killer, though very obviously at fault and who did the deed intentionally, is found but not detained or even questioned. Why?
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Postby WiZ » Mon Nov 28, 2016 7:43 pm

Man = HAM? Killer = HAM? Some kind of animal?

Is the 'bar' a 'public house', as we would normally conceive of it?

Was the killing accidental? Was it murder? Manslaughter? Was it the consequence, unintended or otherwise, of a benign or amoral action? Any medical procedures or health issues involved? Is the killer guilty of a crime? Did the man kill himself?

Was an investigation conducted to find the killer? Did they find him soon after the deed? On the premises? Relevant? Was there ever an intention to detain or question the killer? Was there one initially, but this was abandoned once the identity of the killer was established?

Is the manner in which he was killed relevant? Was he beaten/assaulted? Poisoned?

I have trouble with puzzle titles all the time. It would be easier if you weren't all so darn clever :)
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Postby Grip » Mon Nov 28, 2016 8:12 pm

Man = HAM? yes Killer = HAM? no Some kind of animal? yes

Is the 'bar' a 'public house', as we would normally conceive of it? no

Was the killing accidental? no Was it murder? this is closest Manslaughter? no Was it the consequence, unintended or otherwise, of a benign or amoral action? amoral, yes Any medical procedures or health issues involved? no Is the killer guilty of a crime? legally, no Did the man kill himself? no

Was an investigation conducted to find the killer? yes Did they find him soon after the deed? yes On the premises? yes, for svv of premises Relevant? somewhat Was there ever an intention to detain or question the killer? yes Was there one initially, but this was abandoned once the identity of the killer was established? yes

Is the manner in which he was killed relevant? yes Was he beaten/assaulted? there were elements of this , yes Poisoned? no

I have trouble with puzzle titles all the time. It would be easier if you weren't all so darn clever :) Believe it or not, the title of this puzzle WAS a feeble attempt to be clever!
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Postby Zanreo » Mon Nov 28, 2016 8:16 pm

Animal: Mammal? Bird? Bug? Reptile? Amphibian?
Did someone else make the animal kill him?
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Postby Grip » Mon Nov 28, 2016 8:18 pm

Animal: Mammal? Bird? Bug? Reptile? Amphibian? none of these
Did someone else make the animal kill him? nope
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Postby Zanreo » Mon Nov 28, 2016 8:20 pm

Fish? Other aquatic creature?
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Postby Grip » Mon Nov 28, 2016 8:21 pm

Fish? Other aquatic creature? this
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Postby Balin » Mon Nov 28, 2016 9:57 pm

Shark? Jellyfish? Electric eel?
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Postby Grip » Mon Nov 28, 2016 9:59 pm

Shark? Jellyfish? Electric eel? none of these, though I was going to use a shark at first
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Postby Balin » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:04 pm

Whale? Killer whale?
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Postby Grip » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:07 pm

Whale? Killer whale? no, but I like the idea
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Postby Balin » Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:03 pm

Is this Other Aquatic Creature typically thought of as dangerous?
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Postby Grip » Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:16 pm

Is this Other Aquatic Creature typically thought of as dangerous? not really
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Postby Balin » Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:20 pm

You said it's not a type of fish, correct? Is it some type of mollusk? Spiny-skinned creature? Sponge?
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Postby Grip » Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:21 pm

You said it's not a type of fish, correct? yup Is it some type of mollusk? yup! Spiny-skinned creature? Sponge?
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Postby Balin » Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:26 pm

Clam? Oyster? Octopus? Squid?
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Postby Grip » Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:30 pm

Clam? Oyster? Octopus? this Squid?
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Postby biograd » Tue Nov 29, 2016 6:59 pm

Was the "bar" a sand bar? A literal dive bar haha? (I once had a dream where a place was called a "dive bar", and you literally had to dive to the bottom of a pool to get your drinks. Entertaining I'm sure, but this probably wouldn't fly in the real world... I guess my subconscious had a scrund)
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Postby Grip » Tue Nov 29, 2016 7:51 pm

Was the "bar" a sand bar? YES A literal dive bar haha? no, but not a bad idea(I once had a dream where a place was called a "dive bar", and you literally had to dive to the bottom of a pool to get your drinks. Entertaining I'm sure, but this probably wouldn't fly in the real world... I guess my subconscious had a scrund) Nope, you're just strange. ;)
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Postby Balin » Tue Nov 29, 2016 8:43 pm

Did the man die of drowning? Suffocation? Asphyxiation?
Did the octopus also die?
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Postby Grip » Tue Nov 29, 2016 8:48 pm

Did the man die of drowning? this Suffocation? Asphyxiation?
Did the octopus also die? no
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Postby WiZ » Tue Nov 29, 2016 9:19 pm

Was the octopus, or parts thereof, discovered still stuck to his face?

I've always liked the French verb Octroyer ('to convey'). It makes me think of a giant killer octopus. Octopus Destroyer. I even found a temple to Octroyer in Strasbourg.

http://www.leon-noel.fr/wp-content/uplo ... aine_1.jpg

Octroi! Octroi!
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Postby Grip » Tue Nov 29, 2016 9:39 pm

Was the octopus, or parts thereof, discovered still stuck to his face? nope, but explore...

As for the other thing you mentioned...I think you might be channeling memories of a late night viewing of It Came from Beneath the Sea. :)
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Postby Balin » Wed Dec 14, 2016 2:42 am

Was the octopus stuck in the sandbar? Did it get trapped there somehow? Tangled in seaweed?
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Postby Grip » Wed Dec 14, 2016 3:37 am

Was the octopus stuck in the sandbar? Did it get trapped there somehow? Tangled in seaweed? very close, it wasn't stuck in the sandbar but it got stuck very close to it, it's closeness to the scene was one half of the evidence against it, the other half being something related to the victims body...
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Postby Balin » Wed Dec 14, 2016 3:42 am

Did any of the octopus's tentacles detach? Were they still wrapped around the victim?
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Postby Grip » Wed Dec 14, 2016 3:46 am

Did any of the octopus's tentacles detach? no Were they still wrapped around the victim? no, but tentacles are indeed relevant
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Postby Balin » Wed Dec 14, 2016 4:10 am

Were the tentacles sandy? Were parts of the man's clothing attached to the tentacles?
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Postby Grip » Wed Dec 14, 2016 5:42 am

Were the tentacles sandy? no Were parts of the man's clothing attached to the tentacles? no
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Postby GalFisk » Wed Dec 14, 2016 5:55 pm

Did the victim have marks from suckers?
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Postby Grip » Wed Dec 14, 2016 6:44 pm

Did the victim have marks from suckers? YES, indeed. Puzzle solved.
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Re: (Grip) Can't Think of a Clever Puzzle Title

Postby Grip » Wed Dec 14, 2016 6:54 pm

***** SPOILER *****

One day a man visiting the beach found himself on a sandbar. He started to feel a little hungry and spotted a rather large octopus swimming nearby. The man loved sushi and suddenly felt an odd urge to eat the octopus. Needless to say the octopus didn't care for the man grabbing and biting it and fought back. The man lost. The tired octopus decided to take a rest nearby.

When the Coast Guard police who were searching for the missing man later arrived at the scene, they found the poor fellows body laying there stuck in the sandbar with sucker marks all over it. The octopus will still resting nearby on a rock. It was cut and dry what had occurred, but whoever heard of arresting an octopus? And the lawyers would have found out it was definitely a case of self-defense anyway!
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