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[LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker

Postby LemonCurry » Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:32 am

Because my birthtown was in the News, I decided to break the rules


*** $POILER OF PART 1

When I was looking for lateral puzzles on another site, I found them quite uninteresting - except for one, where I couldn't help laughing as I instantly recognized that the puzzle was based on a news story from my birthtown. Though I normally would not copy someone else's puzzle into here, I surely had to share this puzzle on this site in this case.

Of course, there is a secaond part for you - to find out the puzzle and/or news story...
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker

Postby Grip » Fri Jan 06, 2017 3:39 pm

Capitalization of News in the statement relevant?

Is Worms also your birthtown?

Rules = on here? in real life?
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker

Postby Doriana » Fri Jan 06, 2017 6:04 pm

Rules = the law? the rules of a certain establishment/business (e.g. the house rules of a restaurant, gym, hotel...)? social etiquette? "personal" rules (e.g. no carbs after 6pm)?

Was your birth town in the news because of something that happened there? If so, is it something that could only happen there? or something that could also happen elsewhere (e.g. a crime or a natural disaster)? Was the the thing that happened positive? negative? neutral?

Do you still live in that town? Relevant?
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker

Postby LemonCurry » Sat Jan 07, 2017 6:21 pm

Capitalization of News in the statement relevant?
no

Is Worms also your birthtown? no

Rules = on here? yesish in real life? yope

Rules = the law? I hope not the rules of a certain establishment/Business (e.g. the house rules of a restaurant, gym, hotel...)? no social etiquette? yope "personal" rules yes (e.g. no carbs after 6pm)? but certainly not this :)

Was your birth town in the news because of something that happened there? yes If so, is it something that could only happen there? no or something that could also happen elsewhere yes (e.g. a crime or a natural disaster?) not this Was the the thing that happened positive? negative? this, arguablyneutral?

Do you still live in that town? no Relevant?
not really
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker

Postby Doriana » Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:33 pm

The thing that happened in your birth town - an accident? a political event? a sports event? something business-related? something weather-related?
Did someone die? Did someone get hurt? Did something get destroyed?

Did you break one rule? several? Is/Are the rule(s) related to... food? exercise? media consumption? money? hygiene? interacting with others?
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker

Postby LemonCurry » Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:48 am

The thing that happened in your birth town - an accident? DOYD
a political event? no a sports event? no something business-related? yope something weather-related? no
Did someone die? no Did someone get hurt? possibly but irrelevant Did something get destroyed? Yope, DOYD

Did you break one rule? one rule is relevant, but I haven't broken it yet
several?
Is/Are the rule(s) related to... food? exercise? media consumption? money? hygiene? interacting with others? Thisish, no to rest
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker

Postby Grip » Sat Jan 14, 2017 2:50 am

Do the rules you broke involve posting this specific puzzle?
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker

Postby LemonCurry » Sun Jan 15, 2017 9:25 am

Do the rules you broke involve posting this specific puzzle? yes indeed!
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker

Postby GalFisk » Sun Jan 15, 2017 9:29 am

Is it a rule you've set for yourself? Number of concurrent puzzles relevant? Time between posting new puzzles? Theme of puzzles?
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker

Postby LemonCurry » Sun Jan 15, 2017 2:29 pm

Is it a rule you've set for yourself? yes Number of concurrent puzzles relevant? Time between posting new puzzles? Theme of puzzles? yope, no to rest
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker

Postby Grip » Sun Jan 15, 2017 2:34 pm

Is the personal rule related to puzzle titles?
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker

Postby LemonCurry » Sun Jan 15, 2017 2:45 pm

Is the personal rule related to puzzle titles? no
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker

Postby GalFisk » Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:19 pm

Yopetheme: inspiration? Characters? Do you not post puzzles about your own experiences? Not post about real events? Only post puzzles from your own imagination?
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker

Postby LemonCurry » Mon Jan 16, 2017 8:06 am

Yopetheme: inspiration? Yesish Characters? No Do you not post puzzles about your own experiences? No Not post about real events? No Only post puzzles from your own imagination? Not quite, but OTRT
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker

Postby Grip » Mon Jan 16, 2017 11:07 pm

Did you ever post a puzzle related to the news of your birthtown? (Besides this one.)

Is your birthtown also in Germany? relevant where it is?
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker

Postby LemonCurry » Wed Jan 18, 2017 8:05 am

Did you ever post a puzzle related to the news of your birthtown? (Besides this one.) No

Is your birthtown also in Germany? yes relevant where it is? Not really
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker

Postby Doriana » Wed Jan 18, 2017 2:50 pm

Are you planning to post a puzzle based on what happened in your birth town?

Is the rule that you don't post puzzles to which the answer can easily be googled?
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker

Postby LemonCurry » Wed Jan 18, 2017 2:55 pm

Are you planning to post a puzzle based on what happened in your birth town? yes

Is the rule that you don't post puzzles to which the answer can easily be googled? no
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker

Postby Grip » Thu Jan 19, 2017 5:29 pm

Is your rule that you don't post puzzles based on you personally or personal aspects of your life?
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker

Postby LemonCurry » Thu Jan 19, 2017 5:36 pm

Is your rule that you don't post puzzles based on you personally or personal aspects of your life?
no
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker

Postby Grip » Sat Jan 21, 2017 2:09 am

Is the rule that you would not do a puzzle based on how you came up with or why you decided to do the puzzle? or does your birthplace specifically have to be involved to break the rule?
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker

Postby LemonCurry » Mon Jan 23, 2017 12:53 pm

Is the rule that you would not do a puzzle based on how you came up with yes or why you decided to do the puzzle? no
or does your birthplace specifically have to be involved to break the rule? no
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker

Postby Grip » Sun Jan 29, 2017 1:32 am

Did you decide to break the rule because you found the news interesting? because you wanted to perplex us with a meta puzzle?
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker

Postby LemonCurry » Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:55 am

Did you decide to break the rule because you found the news interesting? not directly
because you wanted to perplex us with a meta puzzle? not relevantly :)
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker

Postby Grip » Mon Feb 06, 2017 1:45 am

Did the news make you proud of your birthplace? did you just find the news really interesting?
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Postby LemonCurry » Mon Feb 06, 2017 8:25 am

Did the news make you proud of your birthplace? NO
did you just find the news really interesting? interesting they were...
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Postby Grip » Mon Feb 06, 2017 6:22 pm

Did the news make you ashamed of your birthplace? was there some crime committed there?
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker

Postby LemonCurry » Wed Feb 08, 2017 7:13 am

Did the news make you ashamed of your birthplace? Not ashamed, maybe a little embarrassed
was there some crime committed there? no
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker

Postby Grip » Wed Feb 08, 2017 4:10 pm

Are you breaking because you find the News so interesting you can't help but pass it along?

Was the news comical in some way?
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker

Postby LemonCurry » Fri Feb 10, 2017 9:19 am

Are you breaking because you find the News so interesting you can't help but pass it along?
yope, but there is another point

Was the news comical in some way? yes
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker

Postby Grip » Tue Feb 14, 2017 6:23 pm

Was the news tied in somehow with a previous LTPF puzzle or discussion?
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker

Postby LemonCurry » Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:32 am

Was the news tied in somehow with a previous LTPF puzzle or discussion? not an LTPF puzzle, but...
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker

Postby Doriana » Wed Feb 15, 2017 1:19 pm

Was the news reminiscent of a classic lateral puzzle?
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker

Postby LemonCurry » Wed Feb 15, 2017 2:19 pm

Was the news reminiscent of a classic lateral puzzle? Not this time
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Postby Grip » Tue Feb 21, 2017 5:32 pm

Was the news somehow tied to a brainteaser? some other puzzle type?
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker

Postby LemonCurry » Wed Feb 22, 2017 11:23 am

Was the news somehow tied to a brainteaser? some other puzzle type?

Ok, to avoid spilitting hairs with terminology - the news were tied to a lateral puzzle (but not from the LTPF nor a classic)
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker

Postby Doriana » Wed Feb 22, 2017 11:39 am

Did the news story explicitly mention a lateral puzzle? Was the story itself reminiscent of a lateral puzzle? If so, did it involve midgets? albatrosses? dead fish? broken glass? guns?
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker

Postby LemonCurry » Wed Feb 22, 2017 12:08 pm

Did the news story explicitly mention a lateral puzzle? no, not that way Was the story itself reminiscent of a lateral puzzle? no If so, did it involve midgets? albatrosses? dead fish? broken glass? guns?
The relevant puzzle does not involve any of these (and no lighthouses and melting ice either)
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker

Postby Doriana » Wed Feb 22, 2017 3:38 pm

Did the news story have any elements that are also relevant in a lateral puzzle? If so, are professions relevant? names? objects? animals?
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker

Postby LemonCurry » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:27 am

Did the news story have any elements that are also relevant in a lateral puzzle? yes, but beware FA If so, are professions relevant? names? objects? this animals?
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker

Postby Hobbsicle » Mon Feb 27, 2017 7:43 pm

Did someone else create a puzzle based on that news story?
And your rule is not to post puzzles based on situations you've already seen included in other puzzles?
But since it's your hometown, you couldn't resist?
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker

Postby LemonCurry » Tue Feb 28, 2017 9:14 am

Did someone else create a puzzle based on that news story? yes!
And your rule is not to post puzzles based on situations you've already seen included in other puzzles? yesish
But since it's your hometown, you couldn't resist? yes

*** $POILER OF PART 1

When I was looking for lateral puzzles on another site, I found them quite uninteresting - except for one, where I couldn't help laughing as I instantly recognized that the puzzle was based on a news story from my birthtown. Though I normally would not copy someone else's puzzle into here, I surely had to share this puzzle on this site in this case.

Of course, there is a secaond part for you - to find out the puzzle and/or news story...
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker [Part 1 solved]

Postby Hobbsicle » Thu Mar 02, 2017 8:04 pm

Is the news related to: politics/government? Business organizations? Religion? Sports? Other recreation? Education? Entertainment? Animals? Food? Music? Technology? Transportation? Space aliens?
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker [Part 1 solved]

Postby LemonCurry » Mon Mar 06, 2017 9:11 am

Is the news related to: politics/government? Business organizations? Religion? Sports? Other recreation? Education? Entertainment? Animals? Food? Music? Technology? Transportation?
This, with a bit of politics and business involved
Space aliens?
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker [Part 1 solved]

Postby Doriana » Mon Mar 06, 2017 10:44 am

Fake bus stops for people with dementia relevant?
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker [Part 1 solved]

Postby LemonCurry » Mon Mar 06, 2017 11:41 am

Fake bus stops for people with dementia relevant? No
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker [Part 1 solved]

Postby Doriana » Mon Mar 06, 2017 7:12 pm

Are cars relevant? busses? subways? trams? trains? bikes? motorbikes? roads? tunnels? bridges? potholes? bike lanes? sidewalks? intersections? roundabouts? traffic lights? construction work?
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker [Part 1 solved]

Postby LemonCurry » Tue Mar 07, 2017 6:14 am

Are cars relevant? busses? subways? trams? trains? this (ish) motorbikes? roads? tunnels? bridges? potholes? bike lanes? sidewalks? intersections? roundabouts? traffic lights? construction work? and this
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker [Part 1 solved]

Postby Doriana » Tue Mar 07, 2017 2:02 pm

This-ish trains... one specific train? one type of train? a train station?
Did the construction work concern train tracks? a train station?
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker [Part 1 solved]

Postby LemonCurry » Tue Mar 07, 2017 2:23 pm

This-ish trains... one specific train? one type of train? a train station? this
Did the construction work concern train tracks? a train station? and this too
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker [Part 1 solved]

Postby Doriana » Tue Mar 07, 2017 2:25 pm

Stuttgart 21 relevant?

Was a train station being built? being renovated? being knocked down?
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker [Part 1 solved]

Postby LemonCurry » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:33 pm

Stuttgart 21 relevant? no

Was a train station being built? being renovated? this being knocked down?
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker [Part 1 solved]

Postby Hobbsicle » Tue Mar 07, 2017 4:16 pm

Is it relevant what specifically was being renovated? How long it took to renovate? What caused the need for renovation? The delays it caused? The effect that renovating had on the daily operation of the station? What they found when they were renovating? Mistakes made on the renovation?
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker [Part 1 solved]

Postby LemonCurry » Tue Mar 07, 2017 4:57 pm

Is it relevant what specifically was being renovated? yes How long it took to renovate? no What caused the need for renovation? noish The delays it caused? no The effect that renovating had on the daily operation of the station? yes, beware FA What they found when they were renovating? no Mistakes made on the Renovation? yesish
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker [Part 1 solved]

Postby Doriana » Tue Mar 07, 2017 6:40 pm

Was the station building renovated? the platforms? the tracks?
Did the renovation relevantly damage anything?
Was the station in operation during the renovation?
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker [Part 1 solved]

Postby LemonCurry » Wed Mar 08, 2017 5:51 am

Was the station building renovated? the platforms? the tracks? platforms
Did the renovation relevantly damage anything?
noish, damage is not the word Was the station in operation during the renovation?
yes
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker [Part 1 solved]

Postby Hobbsicle » Wed Mar 08, 2017 2:38 pm

When the renovations were completed, was the issue no longer present? Or was it present even after the renovation? Or only after? Did they make the platforms too high? Low? Far away? Some other lack of foresight in the design?
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker [Part 1 solved]

Postby LemonCurry » Thu Mar 09, 2017 12:46 pm

When the renovations were completed, was the issue no longer present? Or was it present even after the renovation? Or only after? this one, relevantly
Did they make the platforms too high? this(ish) Low? Far away?
Some other lack of foresight in the design? no
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker [Part 1 solved]

Postby Doriana » Thu Mar 09, 2017 12:54 pm

Wheelchair accessibility relevant? Gap between trains and platform relevant?
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker [Part 1 solved]

Postby LemonCurry » Thu Mar 09, 2017 2:14 pm

Wheelchair accessibility relevant? Gap between trains and platform relevant?
These two were the reasons for renovating the station in the first place, but not directly connected to the puzzle problem
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker [Part 1 solved]

Postby Doriana » Fri Mar 10, 2017 8:45 am

Was the problem that certain trains could not stop at the station anymore? That passenger had a hard time getting on the train? getting off the train?
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker [Part 1 solved]

Postby LemonCurry » Fri Mar 10, 2017 10:18 am

Was the problem that certain trains could not stop at the station anymore? No
That passenger had a hard time getting on the train? Yope, DOYD getting off the train? no
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker [Part 1 solved]

Postby Doriana » Fri Mar 10, 2017 10:36 am

Did some passengers have a hard time getting on the train? If so, the elderly? people with a disability? people with strollers? with bikes? with heavy luggage?
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker [Part 1 solved]

Postby LemonCurry » Fri Mar 10, 2017 10:46 am

Did some passengers have a hard time getting on the train? Not relevantly, getting OTWT
If so, the elderly? people with a disability? people with strollers? with bikes? with heavy luggage?
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker [Part 1 solved]

Postby Doriana » Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:29 pm

Are passengers relevant to the puzzle problem at all?
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker [Part 1 solved]

Postby LemonCurry » Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:49 pm

Are passengers relevant to the puzzle problem at all? In a General sense, yes, but no particular passengers are relevant
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker [Part 1 solved]

Postby Hobbsicle » Fri Mar 10, 2017 7:36 pm

Was there a difference in height from where people were boarding to the train?
Did they not leave enough room for the trains themselves?
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker [Part 1 solved]

Postby LemonCurry » Fri Mar 10, 2017 11:21 pm

Was there a difference in height from where people were boarding to the train? no
Did they not leave enough room for the trains Themselves? no
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker [Part 1 solved]

Postby Hobbsicle » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:06 am

So the platform was taller than before? In relation to other parts of the building? The ceiling?
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker [Part 1 solved]

Postby LemonCurry » Mon Mar 13, 2017 7:23 am

So the platform was taller than before? yes In relation to other parts of the building? yes, but maybe FA The ceiling? irr
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker [Part 1 solved]

Postby Hobbsicle » Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:12 pm

Do the trains have anything to do with the problem? The way people move about on the platform? The way part of the building relates to the new height? Or how objects within the station relate to the new height?
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker [Part 1 solved]

Postby LemonCurry » Mon Mar 13, 2017 6:59 pm

Do the trains have anything to do with the problem? no The way people move about on the platform? not quite The way part of the building relates to the new height? yes Or how objects within the station relate to the new height? yope, doyd
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker [Part 1 solved]

Postby Doriana » Wed Mar 15, 2017 1:22 pm

Getting onto the platform relevant? If so, stairs relevant? escalators? elevators?
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker [Part 1 solved]

Postby LemonCurry » Wed Mar 15, 2017 1:35 pm

Getting onto the platform relevant? yes
If so, stairs relevant? escalators? elevators? but not these
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker [Part 1 solved]

Postby Doriana » Wed Mar 15, 2017 1:43 pm

Getting onto the platform from within the station relevant? from outside?

Are the platforms above ground level? at ground level? below ground level?
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker [Part 1 solved]

Postby LemonCurry » Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:13 pm

Getting onto the platform from within the station relevant? yes from outside? no

Are the platforms above ground level? at ground level? this below ground level?
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker [Part 1 solved]

Postby Doriana » Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:17 pm

Doors relevant?
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker [Part 1 solved]

Postby LemonCurry » Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:44 pm

Doors relevant? yes indeed!
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker [Part 1 solved]

Postby Doriana » Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:46 pm

Are there any relevant doors leading from the station to the platforms? If so, were they there before the renovation? after the renovation? Was it impossible to open the doors after the renovation?
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker [Part 1 solved]

Postby LemonCurry » Wed Mar 15, 2017 4:36 pm

Are there any relevant doors leading from the station to the platforms? If so, were they there before the renovation? after the renovation? Was it impossible to open the doors after the renovation? yes!

SPOILER

On the train station in Bad Bentheim, the platforms were elevated so getting on the trains would be easier e.g. for wheelchair users. But they made the platforms so high that they blocked the exit door of the station building. Sometimes passengers even climbed through the window to get on their train in time!

the reason behind this was that the building was owned by another party, and they couldn't agree on a common timeline for the renovation if the whole thing. They are doing the building, and tunnel, and street parts now, and you cannot access the station without a huge detour. But this is another story...
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker [Terminal Reached]

Postby Doriana » Wed Mar 15, 2017 5:07 pm

Nice one! Just looked it up - I missed it when it was in the news, but the youtube video is infuriating to look at.
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Re: [LemonCurry] Not quite a rulebreaker [Terminal Reached]

Postby LemonCurry » Wed Mar 15, 2017 6:19 pm

Oh, this video series provides a lot of material for lateral puzzles :)
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