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[WiZ] No, she wasn't a Lieutenant

Postby WiZ » Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:38 pm

Marion was responsible for several dramatic power surges in a foreign country. However, she is very well-regarded there because of this. Why should this be so?
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Re: [WiZ] No, she wasn't a Lieutenant

Postby Grip » Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:42 pm

Marion = HAF? real person? if real person, real first name?

Power surges = electrical power?
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Postby WiZ » Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:53 pm

Marion = HAF? yes real person? yes if real person, real first name? yes

Power surges = electrical power? yes
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Re: [WiZ] No, she wasn't a Lieutenant

Postby Grip » Thu Jan 12, 2017 3:05 am

Did Marion cause these surges on purpose? if so, was her intent benign?
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Re: [WiZ] No, she wasn't a Lieutenant

Postby GalFisk » Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:48 pm

Did the Power surges break anything? Anything relevant? Expensive? Bad? Were they all caused within: seconds? Minutes? Hours? Days? Weeks? Years? Did she do this as part of her profession? Does she work with Power generation or transmission? Sabotage? Did she cause any other inconvenience? Is conflict relevant? Did she solve a problem? Is she regarded as a hero? A celebrity? A genius? A friend of the people? An enemy of someone or something relevant?
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Re: [WiZ] No, she wasn't a Lieutenant

Postby WiZ » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:35 pm

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Did Marion cause these surges on purpose? yope to yesish if so, was her intent benign? yes

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Did the Power surges break anything? no Anything relevant? Expensive? Bad? n/a to all Were they all caused within: seconds? this Minutes? Hours? Days? Weeks? Years? Did she do this as part of her profession? yes (slight DOYD) Does she work with Power generation or transmission? no Sabotage? no Did she cause any other inconvenience? arguably, but more as a side-effect Is conflict relevant? yes, of sorts Did she solve a problem? no Is she regarded as a hero? A celebrity? this is most accurate A genius? A friend of the people? An enemy of someone or something relevant?
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Re: [WiZ] No, she wasn't a Lieutenant

Postby Balin » Thu Jan 12, 2017 10:42 pm

Is Marion involved in entertainment? Is she an actress? A singer? Another type of performer?
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Re: [WiZ] No, she wasn't a Lieutenant

Postby WiZ » Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:00 pm

Is Marion involved in entertainment? yes Is she an actress? A singer? this Another type of performer?
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Postby Balin » Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:50 pm

Was Marion performing a concert? Was she part of a contest? Eurovision relevant?
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Postby WiZ » Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:53 pm

Was Marion performing a concert? yesish Was she part of a contest? yes Eurovision relevant? indirectly
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Postby peter365 » Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:16 am

Were the power surges caused by people turning on their TVs? Is Marion from the other country originally? Does her singing a specific song cause this to happen? If so is the song one of protest or controversial in any way?
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Re: [WiZ] No, she wasn't a Lieutenant

Postby Grip » Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:26 pm

Was Marion a popular singer before she starting causing power surges? did the surges ever lead to blackouts?
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Postby WiZ » Sun Jan 15, 2017 8:02 pm

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Were the power surges caused by people turning on their TVs? no Is Marion from the other country originally? yes Does her singing a specific song cause this to happen? no, any specific details about the song do not factor in to the solution If so is the song one of protest or controversial in any way? no

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Was Marion a popular singer before she starting causing power surges? yes, although not as widely known did the surges ever lead to blackouts? irrelevant
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Postby Grip » Mon Jan 16, 2017 11:42 pm

Is this country in NA? SA? Asia? Africa? Europe? Oceania?

Did this country need the power surges in some way? is the electricity infrastructure in this country poor or troubled?
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Postby WiZ » Mon Jan 16, 2017 11:45 pm

Is this country in NA? SA? Asia? this Africa? Europe? and this, which should narrow things down a little Oceania?

Did this country need the power surges in some way? no is the electricity infrastructure in this country poor or troubled? yes (but irrelevant)
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Re: [WiZ] No, she wasn't a Lieutenant

Postby Grip » Mon Jan 16, 2017 11:47 pm

The country is Turkey then? possibly Russia?

Is Marion from said country?
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Postby WiZ » Mon Jan 16, 2017 11:48 pm

The country is Turkey then? possibly Russia? this

Is Marion from said country? nyet
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Postby Grip » Tue Jan 17, 2017 12:39 am

Is Marion a librarian in her off time?

Are the surges caused by the equipment she uses when she sings? does she sing opera?
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Postby WiZ » Tue Jan 17, 2017 1:17 am

Is Marion a librarian in her off time? No (I had to look that up)

Are the surges caused by the equipment she uses when she sings? no does she sing opera? no/irrel
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Re: [WiZ] No, she wasn't a Lieutenant

Postby Grip » Tue Jan 17, 2017 2:14 am

Relevant where our Marion is from? is she in Russia just to sing?
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Postby WiZ » Tue Jan 17, 2017 2:26 am

Relevant where our Marion is from? noish; certainly not at specific country level is she in Russia just to sing? yes
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Postby Grip » Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:21 am

Is her music sang in Russian? does she play an instrument while she sings?

Are the power surges caused by her voice somehow?
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Re: [WiZ] No, she wasn't a Lieutenant

Postby Lynne » Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:26 am

Does she perform on TV and the surges occur during the commercial breaks when everyone goes to put their kettle on?
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Postby WiZ » Tue Jan 17, 2017 7:59 pm

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Is her music sang in Russian? does she play an instrument while she sings? irrel to both

Are the power surges caused by her voice somehow? no, there is no direct causal link there

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Does she perform on TV yes and the surges occur during the commercial breaks no when everyone goes to put their kettle on? this isn't it - although I'm aware of the phenomenon (TV pickup, right? I usually hear about it in the context of the UK). You are OTRT with this.
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Re: [WiZ] No, she wasn't a Lieutenant

Postby Grip » Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:03 pm

Does Marion's power surges help some Russians get better/more electricity and thus get things done they otherwise might not be able?
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Postby WiZ » Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:05 pm

Does Marion's power surges help some Russians get better/more electricity and thus get things done they otherwise might not be able? no
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Postby Grip » Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:42 am

Are lights relevant? does Marion's surges make lights in Russia brighter? is driving relevant? streetlights?
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Postby WiZ » Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:47 am

Are lights relevant? yes does Marion's surges make lights in Russia brighter? is driving relevant? streetlights? no to these
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Postby Grip » Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:50 am

Does Marion have big concerts that use up a lot of energy? give out a lot of energy?
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Postby WiZ » Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:52 am

Does Marion have big concerts that use up a lot of energy? She had one big concert that used up a lot of energy and caused power surges for a few seconds - why? give out a lot of energy? no
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Postby JenBurdoo » Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:05 am

Was it Marion's concert equipment that caused the surge? The viewers? The TV producers? The government? Could regulations or technical improvements have prevented the surge? Was it unforeseen? Did it stop the concert?

Is law enforcement relevant?
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Postby WiZ » Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:07 am

Was it Marion's concert equipment that caused the surge? no The viewers? this The TV producers? this, less directly The government? no Could regulations or technical improvements have prevented the surge? yes Was it unforeseen? no Did it stop the concert? no!

Is law enforcement relevant? no
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Postby JenBurdoo » Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:10 am

Hm. Was the surge intentional? Is there a relevant reason that this foreseen development was not prevented?
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Postby WiZ » Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:12 am

Hm. Was the surge intentional? it was generated intentionally - although the end goal was not to create a surge for the sake of it Is there a relevant reason that this foreseen development was not prevented? ish - it ties in to the reason the surge happened in the first place
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Postby JenBurdoo » Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:14 am

Exploding sparks, like in rock concerts? Is the music or genre relevant? Any particular technical device? Sound? Visual?
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Postby GalFisk » Thu Jan 19, 2017 5:01 am

Are the surges produced by equipment she's using? Equipment around the stage/studio where she performs? Equipment in the homes of people seeing her on TV? Is the transmitted picture very dark in periods and bright in others, causing the power consumption of millions of TVs to fluctuate in unison? Are lights in homes being turned on or off?
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Postby WiZ » Thu Jan 19, 2017 7:47 pm

JenBurdoo

Exploding sparks, like in rock concerts? no Is the music or genre relevant? no Any particular technical device? no Sound? Visual? no to these

GalFisk

Are the surges produced by equipment she's using? no Equipment around the stage/studio where she performs? no Equipment in the homes of people seeing her on TV? Yes! Is the transmitted picture very dark in periods and bright in others, causing the power consumption of millions of TVs to fluctuate in unison? no - nice idea, though Are lights in homes being turned on or off? Yes!!
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Re: [WiZ] No, she wasn't a Lieutenant

Postby Grip » Sat Jan 21, 2017 2:11 am

Are the Russians grateful to Marion because she causes the lights to come on at a time when they are needed? outside lighting involved? streetlights?
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Postby Lynne » Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:20 pm

Are people grateful because they left the TV on to make it appear that they were at home when in fact they were out, and the lights going on made it more convincing? (as they didn't have smart phones to do it for them)
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Re: [WiZ] No, she wasn't a Lieutenant

Postby WiZ » Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:36 pm

Grip

Are the Russians grateful to Marion because she causes the lights to come on at a time when they are needed? no outside lighting involved? streetlights? no to both

Lynne

Are people grateful because they left the TV on to make it appear that they were at home when in fact they were out, and the lights going on made it more convincing? (as they didn't have smart phones to do it for them) this isn't it

There's a risk of over-thinking present. What remains to be discovered is why Marions' performance caused house lights to go on and off to such an extent that power surges happened?
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Re: [WiZ] No, she wasn't a Lieutenant

Postby RedWine » Mon Jan 23, 2017 12:07 pm

Did the house lights go on and off automatically? Did the people manually turn their lights on and off in the same moments? When Marion's performance is showed in TV, are the relevant house lights on? Off? Some on and some off? Are the lights of a specific builing especially relevant?
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Postby WiZ » Mon Jan 23, 2017 7:44 pm

Did the house lights go on and off automatically? Did the people manually turn their lights on and off in the same moments? this! When Marion's performance is showed in TV, are the relevant house lights on? they usually start in the 'on' position Off? Some on and some off? Are the lights of a specific builing especially relevant? no - just a range of private homes
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Re: [WiZ] No, she wasn't a Lieutenant

Postby RedWine » Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:23 pm

Was there a moment in the show when Marion encouraged people to turn their lights off? Or at least imply so? Was there a song that could have been interpreted as such encouragement?
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Re: [WiZ] No, she wasn't a Lieutenant

Postby WiZ » Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:45 pm

Was there a moment in the show when Marion not Marion, but... encouraged people to turn their lights off? There was a moment at which people were encouraged to turn their lights on and off Or at least imply so? Was there a song that could have been interpreted as such encouragement? No, this was all quite explicit
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Re: [WiZ] No, she wasn't a Lieutenant

Postby RedWine » Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:49 pm

Were people encouraged to turn their lights on and off for a reason? Or was it just a part of the show? Was there a person who conducted the show?
Did whoever told people to turn their lights on and off mean the literal turning the lights on and off? If yes, did they expect the power surge?
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Re: [WiZ] No, she wasn't a Lieutenant

Postby WiZ » Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:56 pm

Were people encouraged to turn their lights on and off for a reason? yes Or was it just a part of the show? the reason was part of the show Was there a person who conducted the show? yes
Did whoever told people to turn their lights on and off mean the literal turning the lights on and off? yes If yes, did they expect the power surge? yes (or at least hoped for them to happen)
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Re: [WiZ] No, she wasn't a Lieutenant

Postby RedWine » Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:59 pm

Was the reason ecological? political? economical? health? increasing awareness?
Is it relevant how much time elapsed between lights being turned on and off and on again?
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Postby WiZ » Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:06 pm

Was the reason ecological? political? economical? this was a factor health? increasing awareness? no to the rest
Is it relevant how much time elapsed between lights being turned on and off and on again? no (it was immediate and repeated)
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Re: [WiZ] No, she wasn't a Lieutenant

Postby Grip » Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:21 pm

Was the idea simply to get some electrical juice while at the same time saving some money?
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Postby WiZ » Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:23 pm

Was the idea simply to get some electrical juice while at the same time saving some money? no - cost-saving was not a factor
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Re: [WiZ] No, she wasn't a Lieutenant

Postby RedWine » Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:06 am

Morse code relevant? Stroboscopes relevant?
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Postby WiZ » Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:47 pm

Morse code relevant? Stroboscopes relevant? No to these.

Remember that the concert was a contest.
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Re: [WiZ] No, she wasn't a Lieutenant

Postby RedWine » Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:49 pm

Audience votes relevant? Did the power surges enable voting on Marion? Disable voting on Marion? Was all of this a weird method of counting votes?
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Re: [WiZ] No, she wasn't a Lieutenant

Postby WiZ » Tue Jan 24, 2017 10:06 pm

Audience votes relevant? yes Did the power surges enable voting on Marion? Disable voting on Marion? They were more of a consequence of voting for Marion Was all of this a weird method of counting votes? Yes!

***** SPOILER *****

Intervision, a soviet rival to the capitalist Eurovision Song Contest, was held in communist countries in the 1970s and 80s. Because few citizens had telephones, contestants would be voted for by the public turning their house lights on and off, and the national power company measuring the resulting surges. Finland's Marion Rung was an especially popular contestant, winning in 1980.


Congratulations Redwine, and thank you everyone else for playing.
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Re: [WiZ] No, she wasn't a Lieutenant [РЕШИТЬ]

Postby RedWine » Tue Jan 24, 2017 10:17 pm

If something is stupid but works... Very nice puzzle, WiZ!
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