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(Grip) You're A Sad, Strange Little Man

Postby Grip » Sat Jan 14, 2017 7:47 pm

People thought a man had once been there, but he never really was. Recently, however, he was there and still is. Explain.
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Re: (Grip) You're A Sad, Strange Little Man

Postby GalFisk » Sat Jan 14, 2017 8:32 pm

Man: H? A? There 1: bodily and livingly present? Same q for there 2. Is there a physical place? Indoors?
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Re: (Grip) You're A Sad, Strange Little Man

Postby Grip » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:58 pm

Man: H? yesish A? yes There 1: bodily and livingly present? yesish Same q for there 2. yesish Is there a physical place? yes Indoors? but no
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Re: (Grip) You're A Sad, Strange Little Man

Postby GalFisk » Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:01 pm

Humanish: dead body? Model? Statue? Cutout? Picture? Fictional human? Actor playing a character?
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Postby Grip » Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:10 pm

Humanish: dead body? Model? Statue? Cutout? Picture? Fictional human? this, the fictional person is humanish instead of human, however Actor playing a character?
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Postby GalFisk » Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:15 pm

Superhuman? Humanoid? Part human, part something else? Android? Anthropomorphic animal or object? Edit: Secretly alive toy cowboy?
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Postby Grip » Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:21 pm

Superhuman? Humanoid? Part human, part something else? Android? Anthropomorphic animal or object? none of these Edit: Secretly alive toy cowboy? no, but good work on catching the reference!
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Re: (Grip) You're A Sad, Strange Little Man

Postby GalFisk » Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:26 pm

One of my favourite movies from one of my favourite studios. Supernatural human? Such as a ghost? Vampire? Werewolf? Witch or wizard? Monster? Deity? Demon?
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Re: (Grip) You're A Sad, Strange Little Man

Postby Grip » Sun Jan 15, 2017 12:26 am

One of my favourite movies from one of my favourite studios. Same here!

Supernatural human? yesish Such as a ghost? Vampire? Werewolf? Witch or wizard? Monster? Deity? Demon? but none of these
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Postby GalFisk » Sun Jan 15, 2017 8:43 am

Superhero? Supervillan?
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Postby Grip » Sun Jan 15, 2017 2:33 pm

Superhero? Supervillan? neither be he
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Re: (Grip) You're A Sad, Strange Little Man

Postby GalFisk » Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:57 pm

Supernaturalish in a good way? Bad? Mysterious? Debilitating? Folklore relevant? Mythology? Fantasy literature? Other literature?
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Re: (Grip) You're A Sad, Strange Little Man

Postby Grip » Sun Jan 15, 2017 7:41 pm

Supernaturalish in a good way? yes Bad? very much no Mysterious? yes Debilitating? no Folklore relevant? yup Mythology? nope Fantasy literature? yes Other literature? no
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Re: (Grip) You're A Sad, Strange Little Man

Postby RedWine » Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:52 pm

Are "people" from the puzzle sentence the readers of the literature? A humans in the fantasy world? Do both "there" in the puzzle sentence refer to the same place? If yes, in the world of fiction? In real world?
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Postby Grip » Fri Jan 20, 2017 6:13 pm

Hi, RedWine! I'm new here. (Sort of.)

Are "people" from the puzzle sentence the readers of the literature? some of them, yes, others only heard about it A humans in the fantasy world? no Do both "there" in the puzzle sentence refer to the same place? yes If yes, in the world of fiction? no In real world? yes, I know this all sounds odd, but it'll make sense I promise
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Re: (Grip) You're A Sad, Strange Little Man

Postby Balin » Sat Jan 21, 2017 3:25 am

Supernaturalish = angel?
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Re: (Grip) You're A Sad, Strange Little Man

Postby Grip » Sat Jan 21, 2017 3:35 am

Supernaturalish = angel? no, not quite that lofty
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Re: (Grip) You're A Sad, Strange Little Man

Postby RedWine » Mon Jan 23, 2017 12:56 pm

Hi Grip, nice to meet you!

Is the literature the only relevant work of fiction? Is a movie involved as well?
Does "there" refer to a place where the piece of literature is kept (like a library shelf)?
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Re: (Grip) You're A Sad, Strange Little Man

Postby Grip » Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:22 pm

Is the literature the only relevant work of fiction? yes, and to be fair I should mention that calling it literature is a bit grandiose for this particular book Is a movie involved as well? no
Does "there" refer to a place where the piece of literature is kept (like a library shelf)? no, good try though
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Re: (Grip) You're A Sad, Strange Little Man

Postby GalFisk » Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:41 pm

Not angel: elf? Fairy? Spirit? Ghost? Gnome? Something relevantly fighting against evil supernaturalish creatures?
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Postby RedWine » Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:06 pm

Is it a comic book? A fairy tale?
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Re: (Grip) You're A Sad, Strange Little Man

Postby Grip » Mon Jan 23, 2017 6:58 pm

Not angel: elf? this is close, explore Fairy? not really, some sources say it's a type of fairy but most people don't think of them that way Spirit? not this time Ghost? sadly, no Gnome? also close Something relevantly fighting against evil supernaturalish creatures? no

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Is it a comic book? A fairy tale? no to both
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Postby RedWine » Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:38 pm

Is this the creature that is said to live at the end of the rainbow?
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Re: (Grip) You're A Sad, Strange Little Man

Postby Grip » Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:18 pm

Is this the creature that is said to live at the end of the rainbow? yup!
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Re: (Grip) You're A Sad, Strange Little Man

Postby RedWine » Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:08 am

So does "there" refer to the end of the rainbow? If yes, rainbows in general? One specific rainbow?
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Re: (Grip) You're A Sad, Strange Little Man

Postby Grip » Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:23 pm

So does "there" refer to the end of the rainbow? If yes, rainbows in general? One specific rainbow? no to all
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Postby RedWine » Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:46 pm

Is there only one relevant creature? Does the puzzle involve, in general, all creatures of this type?
Does "there" refer to a country? a city? a mountain? a landmark? a building?
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Postby Grip » Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:47 pm

Is there only one relevant creature? YES Does the puzzle involve, in general, all creatures of this type? NO
Does "there" refer to a country? a city? a mountain? a landmark? a building? no to these
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Postby RedWine » Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:59 pm

"There" - indoor location? outdoor location?
Is it relevant why people think he has once been there? Is it said so in the book? Is it implied in the book? Do people make a false assumption about it, based on what is said in the book?
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Postby Grip » Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:11 pm

"There" - indoor location? outdoor location? outdoors
Is it relevant why people think he has once been there? yes Is it said so in the book? yes Is it implied in the book? no, it's explicit Do people make a false assumption about it, based on what is said in the book? no
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Postby RedWine » Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:46 pm

Does "he never really was" part pertain only to the fact that we're talking about fictional creature in a work of fiction? Or is there more to this bit?
Is this creature associated with this place? Was there a statue of the creature built?
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Postby Grip » Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:46 pm

Does "he never really was" part pertain only to the fact that we're talking about fictional creature in a work of fiction? no Or is there more to this bit? yup
Is this creature associated with this place? yes Was there a statue of the creature built? no
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Postby GalFisk » Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:44 pm

There: in a city? The countryside? A building? A town? A big place? Small place? Inside something? On top of something? Is a statue relevant?
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Postby Grip » Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:07 pm

There: in a city? yes, but beware FA The countryside? no A building? no A town? A big place? fairly big Small place? Inside something? no On top of something? no Is a statue relevant? no
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Postby RedWine » Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:38 pm

Is the relevant city also a country?
There: a park? a body of water? an island?
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Re: (Grip) You're A Sad, Strange Little Man

Postby Grip » Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:45 pm

Is the relevant city also a country? no
There: a park? very, very close, it is a type of park a body of water? an island?
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Postby RedWine » Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:47 pm

There: a forest? a cemetery? a garden? a castle yard? a national park? a maze?
Is the place named after the creature?
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Postby Grip » Thu Jan 26, 2017 7:16 pm

There: a forest? a cemetery? a garden? a castle yard? a national park? no, it's privately owned and operated a maze? no to all, though the park does have some of these things you listed
Is the place named after the creature? no, the leprechauns name is not relevant
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Postby RedWine » Thu Jan 26, 2017 7:20 pm

There: a theme park? a wildlife reserve? an open-air museum? a zoo? a park of miniatures?
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Postby Grip » Thu Jan 26, 2017 7:22 pm

There: a theme park? YES! a wildlife reserve? an open-air museum? a zoo? a park of miniatures?
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Postby RedWine » Thu Jan 26, 2017 7:24 pm

Is the theme of the park fantasy world in general? The universe of a particular work of fiction? Does it have sections devoted to specific works of fiction?
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Postby Grip » Thu Jan 26, 2017 7:28 pm

Is the theme of the park fantasy world in general? yesish, there are large non-fantasy parts, but fantasy is a big part of the whole park The universe of a particular work of fiction? no, though fictional universes do figure largely Does it have sections devoted to specific works of fiction? not whole sections, but certain areas, yes
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Postby RedWine » Thu Jan 26, 2017 7:30 pm

Was the leprechaun added to the theme park just recently? Is the park made in the area where leprechaun was said to be in the book?
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Postby Grip » Thu Jan 26, 2017 7:31 pm

Was the leprechaun added to the theme park just recently? not the leprechaun himself per se, but yes Is the park made in the area where leprechaun was said to be in the book? YES
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Postby RedWine » Thu Jan 26, 2017 7:34 pm

Was the rainbow added to the theme park? Is it implied that the leprechaun is there?
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Postby Grip » Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:17 pm

Was the rainbow added to the theme park? no, although many leprechauns live at the end of a rainbow, this one does not Is it implied that the leprechaun is there? at the theme park, YES
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Postby RedWine » Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:39 pm

Does a place in the theme park reference a leprechaun? Are there leprechaun figures sold as souvenirs? Is there a leprechaun's house or hollow?
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Postby Grip » Thu Feb 02, 2017 10:47 pm

Does a place in the theme park reference a leprechaun? YES Are there leprechaun figures sold as souvenirs? no Is there a leprechaun's house or hollow? YES
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Postby RedWine » Fri Feb 03, 2017 9:02 am

So there is a fantasy book that describes an existing place as a home of leprechauns, but of course leprechauns do not live there as they're fictional characters. Later a theme park is built in said place and there is a leprechaun's house or hollow built in the theme park. All correct? Is there more information needed about the fantasy book? About the theme park? About leprechauns?
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Postby Grip » Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:18 pm

So there is a fantasy book that describes an existing place as a home of leprechauns, but of course leprechauns do not live there as they're fictional characters. yesish, also there is only one leprechaun involved

Later a theme park is built in said place and there is a leprechaun's house or hollow built in the theme park. All correct? You have the right idea and are quite close, but the details are off a bit and there is a FA in there - The leprechaun home was not added to the theme park until very recently.

Is there more information needed about the fantasy book? yes About the theme park? noish About leprechauns? no
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Postby GalFisk » Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:35 pm

Is the book also recent? Was it written before the park was made? During? After?
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Postby Grip » Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:02 pm

Is the book also recent? NO Was it written before the park was made? During? THIS, good questions! After?
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Postby GalFisk » Fri Feb 03, 2017 4:03 pm

Was it written about the park? By those who made the park? Was it meant to be tied to the park somehow? To make the park famous? Or mysterious?
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Postby Grip » Fri Feb 03, 2017 5:42 pm

Was it written about the park? YES By those who made the park? not directly, no, but there was an association Was it meant to be tied to the park somehow? YES To make the park famous? Or mysterious? neither, it was simply for entertainment and the promote the park a little
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Postby Acridian9 » Sat Feb 04, 2017 1:29 pm

Seen you are a Disney fan... is it a Disney park?
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Postby Grip » Sat Feb 04, 2017 6:09 pm

Seen you are a Disney fan... is it a Disney park? Yup, Disneyland. Now don't go and google this! :)
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Postby Acridian9 » Sat Feb 04, 2017 9:12 pm

So, the book is not a Disney book, but is it a children book? Is it set in Disneyland?
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Postby Grip » Sat Feb 04, 2017 9:52 pm

So, the book is not a Disney book, but is it a children book? Correct, it was one of the Little Golden Books.
Is it set in Disneyland? YES
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Postby Acridian9 » Sun Feb 05, 2017 1:06 am

(Sorry, I don't have a clue as to what Little Golden Books are!)
Summing up, the book tells the tale of a leprechaun living at Disneyland, correct?

Did a new, leprechaun-themed attraction open recently at Disneyland?
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Postby Grip » Sun Feb 05, 2017 1:13 am

(Sorry, I don't have a clue as to what Little Golden Books are!) They are a long running series of short, illustrated children's books in North America. Don't worry, you don't need to know anything more about them for the puzzle.

Summing up, the book tells the tale of a leprechaun living at Disneyland, correct? noish, remember the book was written and published while the park was still being built...

Did a new, leprechaun-themed attraction open recently at Disneyland? no, nothing that big
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Postby Acridian9 » Sun Feb 05, 2017 1:23 am

Then, the book tells the tale of a leprechaun living where Disneyland will be built...or you mean Disneyland is being built also in the book?

I know it isn't a statue, but is there at Disnelyland some other representation of a leprechaun?
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Postby Grip » Sun Feb 05, 2017 3:38 am

Then, the book tells the tale of a leprechaun living where Disneyland will be built...or you mean Disneyland is being built also in the book? THE FORMER mostly, Disneyland is only just starting to be built in the story

I know it isn't a statue, but is there at Disneyland some other representation of a leprechaun? not of the leprechaun (his name is Patrick Begorra) himself, see post number 1858. :)
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Re: (Grip) You're A Sad, Strange Little Man

Postby Acridian9 » Mon Feb 06, 2017 7:16 am

Grip wrote: see post number 1858. :)


Is there a way to see a post's number?


Was the leprechaun forced to move due to the park being built? And now they built something (house? cave? bridge?...or was it for trolls?) to host him again?
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Postby Grip » Mon Feb 06, 2017 6:27 pm

Is there a way to see a post's number? Not that I know of, at the time my posts were at 1858, so it was meant as kind of a short term treasure hunt type hint...which failed miserably. ;) Sorry.


Was the leprechaun forced to move due to the park being built? NO And now they built something (house? cave? bridge?...or was it for trolls?) to host him again? no, but this is all very, very close
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Postby Acridian9 » Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:00 am

Let's try the other way then.....the leprechaun never went away but only recently they built a house for him?
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Postby Grip » Wed Feb 08, 2017 4:05 pm

Let's try the other way then.....the leprechaun never went away but only recently they built a house for him? in the story, no, in real life YES

This puzzle is ripe for the solving now!
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Re: (Grip) You're A Sad, Strange Little Man

Postby RedWine » Wed Feb 08, 2017 5:06 pm

Did the park builders take the leprechaun's story into account and add the leprechaun's house to the theme park?
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Postby Grip » Wed Feb 08, 2017 5:44 pm

Did the park builders take the leprechaun's story into account and add the leprechaun's house to the theme park? YES, but why? and why now after all these years?
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Postby GalFisk » Thu Feb 09, 2017 4:53 pm

Did the story get popular recently? Was it in a film or cartoon recently?
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Postby Grip » Thu Feb 09, 2017 5:16 pm

Did the story get popular recently? Was it in a film or cartoon recently? no to both, hope this does not give too much away, but the story has been a favorite among Disney fans since it was published way back in 1955.
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Re: (Grip) You're A Sad, Strange Little Man

Postby RedWine » Thu Feb 09, 2017 5:37 pm

Did the fans want the leprechaun's house in the theme park? Did anyone request the park management to build leprechaun's house?
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Postby Grip » Thu Feb 09, 2017 5:43 pm

Did the fans want the leprechaun's house in the theme park? well, not so much as wanting...the story states he has always had a house there...but... Did anyone request the park management to build leprechaun's house? not sure, irrel
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Re: (Grip) You're A Sad, Strange Little Man

Postby Acridian9 » Thu Feb 09, 2017 7:28 pm

the story states he has always had a house there...but...:
it was invisible? underground? too little to notice? or simply it could not be found?
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Re: (Grip) You're A Sad, Strange Little Man

Postby Grip » Thu Feb 09, 2017 7:42 pm

the story states he has always had a house there...but...:
it was invisible? underground? too little to notice? or simply it could not be found? just in general that it was hard to find. Care to summarize everything...you may possibly solve by doing so. :)
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Re: (Grip) You're A Sad, Strange Little Man

Postby Acridian9 » Fri Feb 10, 2017 8:07 pm

The book tells the tale of a leprechaun happily living where Disneyland would be built. When the park started to be built, he began to hide from people invading his neighborhood. However, workers got a glimpse of him in several occasions and the news spread that a leprechaun lived in the park. As the book was very popular, visitors began to look for the leprechaun, or at least for traces of him. Seen this trend was perduring, the park management decided to build the house of the leprechaun, to give visitors something to find.

How much I'm off??
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Re: (Grip) You're A Sad, Strange Little Man

Postby Grip » Fri Feb 10, 2017 10:06 pm

The book tells the tale of a leprechaun happily living where Disneyland would be built. When the park started to be built, he began to hide from people invading his neighborhood. However, workers got a glimpse of him in several occasions and the news spread that a leprechaun lived in the park. As the book was very popular, visitors began to look for the leprechaun, or at least for traces of him. Seen this trend was perduring, the park management decided to build the house of the leprechaun, to give visitors something to find.

How much I'm off?? off in some details here and there, but close enough for a spoiler!
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Re: (Grip) You're A Sad, Strange Little Man

Postby Grip » Fri Feb 10, 2017 10:22 pm

***** SPOILER *****

From D23:

"In 1955, several Little Golden Books spun stories around Walt’s latest dream-come-true, Disneyland. The most fantastical of these was Little Man of Disneyland, the charming story of Patrick, a leprechaun who lives in a tiny, half-hidden house at the roots of an Anaheim orange tree—until one day Donald Duck, Mickey Mouse, and Goofy (and Pluto too) turn up. They are ready to start moving trees so they can build “a wonderful place called Disneyland… with all sorts of marvelous things for fun.” The friends take the little man on a helicopter ride back to the Disney Studio—exactly how Walt traveled back and forth from Burbank—to see the Disneyland blueprints, drawings, and concept paintings (all based on actual Disneyland art). Patrick agrees to let them build the Park—as long as he can live there in a new house. Once Disneyland is ready to open, Patrick moves into a “wee snug house” of his own in a secret spot at the Park known only to him.

Some readers even assumed Patrick’s “out of sight, hidden away” home was in the real life Adventureland, apparently because the art portrays Donald querying the Little Man about his hidden Disneyland home near the Jungle Cruise."

There never actually was a physical representation of Patrick's house at Disneyland, despite some guests with hazy childhood memories claiming they saw it, until 2015 when for the parks 100th anniversary, a representation of his home was finally added to Adventureland.
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