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[Insight] The useless door

Postby Insight » Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:17 pm

Philip was redecorating a room. The room had two doors.
Realizing that he could enter and leave the room by any door and wanting to have more space he closed down one of the doors and filled that space with a wall of bricks.
However, some days later he destroyed that same wall and put back the door in that space. Explain why.
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Re: [Insight] The useless door

Postby Grip » Fri Feb 17, 2017 9:47 pm

Philip = HAM?

Room - in his home?

Was anything illegal going on?

What type of room it was relevant? if so, bedroom? kitchen?
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Re: [Insight] The useless door

Postby Insight » Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:56 pm

Philip = HAM? Yes

Room - in his home? No

Was anything illegal going on? No

What type of room it was relevant? No if so, bedroom? No kitchen? No
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Re: [Insight] The useless door

Postby Grip » Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:51 pm

Was the room a hotel room?
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Re: [Insight] The useless door

Postby Insight » Sat Feb 18, 2017 2:02 am

Was the room a hotel room? No
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Re: [Insight] The useless door

Postby Hobbsicle » Sat Feb 18, 2017 2:18 am

Is the room in a physical space? A digital space?

Is the kind of building the room is in relevant?
Did he put the door back for the sake of:
Convenience?
Specific utilitarian purpose?
Safety?
Aesthetic?
Law, rules, or instruction from authority?
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Re: [Insight] The useless door

Postby Insight » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:16 am

Is the room in a physical space? Yes A digital space? No

Is the kind of building the room is in relevant? Yope
Did he put the door back for the sake of:
Convenience? Yes
Specific utilitarian purpose? Yes
Safety? Yes
Aesthetic? No
Law, rules, or instruction from authority? No
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Re: [Insight] The useless door

Postby Solong » Sat Feb 18, 2017 4:05 am

Is he hiding something?
Has a crime taken place?
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Re: [Insight] The useless door

Postby GalFisk » Sat Feb 18, 2017 11:54 am

Relevant what the roomis used for? What the room with the remaining door is used for? What the room with the temporarily bricked up door is used for?
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Re: [Insight] The useless door

Postby RedWine » Sat Feb 18, 2017 1:42 pm

Did the two doors relevantly differ from one another? When he bricked up the door, did he mean it to be permanent? Was he doing his job when he redecorated the room? Was he allowed to brick up the door? Did he want someone to believe that the room had only one door?
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Re: [Insight] The useless door

Postby Insight » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:44 pm

Solong

Is he hiding something? No
Has a crime taken place? No


GalFisk

Relevant what the roomis used for? Yes What the room with the remaining door is used for? What the room with the temporarily bricked up door is used for? It´s the same room


RedWine

Did the two doors relevantly differ from one another? Yope When he bricked up the door, did he mean it to be permanent? YES Was he doing his job when he redecorated the room? No Was he allowed to brick up the door? Actually,No, but thats not the main reason he put the door back in place Did he want someone to believe that the room had only one door? No
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Re: [Insight] The useless door

Postby biograd » Sat Feb 18, 2017 5:30 pm

Was the doorway (rather than the door itself) the relevant thing? was the space needed to allow another door in the same building to be able to swing properly (that would be a horrible design, but who knows?)? or, kind of the reverse of that, was the other door (the one that wasn't temporarily bricked up) blocked from swinging properly under certain circumstances?

Was it relevant which way the two doors swing (into the room or towards the outside)?
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Re: [Insight] The useless door

Postby Hobbsicle » Sat Feb 18, 2017 5:36 pm

Is this a place of business?
Would other people be entering and exiting the room, and is that relevant?
Did he realize he needed one door for entering and another for exiting, at least in a particular scenario?
Did either of the doors lead outside?
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Re: [Insight] The useless door

Postby Insight » Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:15 pm

biograd

Was the doorway (rather than the door itself) the relevant thing? Yesish was the space needed to allow another door in the same building to be able to swing properly (that would be a horrible design, but who knows?)? No or, kind of the reverse of that, was the other door (the one that wasn't temporarily bricked up) blocked from swinging properly under certain circumstances? No

Was it relevant which way the two doors swing (into the room or towards the outside)? Swinging not relevant


Hobbsicle

Is this a place of business? Yes
Would other people be entering and exiting the room, and is that relevant? Noish
Did he realize he needed one door for entering and another for exiting, at least in a particular scenario? Yope
Did either of the doors lead outside? He could enter or leave outside by any of the doors
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Re: [Insight] The useless door

Postby Grip » Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:30 pm

Is this room in a skyscraper?
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Re: [Insight] The useless door

Postby Insight » Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:34 pm

Is this room in a skyscraper? No
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Re: [Insight] The useless door

Postby Grip » Sat Feb 18, 2017 9:58 pm

Is the room a basement? attic?

Is the room in a one story building?
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Re: [Insight] The useless door

Postby Hobbsicle » Sun Feb 19, 2017 3:05 am

And just to clarify, the room is a four walls, floor and ceiling type room? But both doors lead to the outside?
Does he need to direct the flow or path of something? Such as air flow, or people traffic?
Does he need the space to maneuver an object or multiple objects?
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Re: [Insight] The useless door

Postby Insight » Sun Feb 19, 2017 5:55 pm

Grip

Is the room a basement? No attic? No

Is the room in a one story building? No


Hobbsicle

And just to clarify, the room is a four walls, floor and ceiling type room? Yes But both doors lead to the outside? Yes
The room is a regular room in a regular building with regular doors
Does he need to direct the flow or path of something? NoSuch as air flow, or people traffic? No
Does he need the space to maneuver an object or multiple objects? No. OTWT
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Re: [Insight] The useless door

Postby Westing1992 » Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:05 pm

Are the two doors on the same wall?
Did he decide to turn the one room into two rooms?
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Re: [Insight] The useless door

Postby Hobbsicle » Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:49 am

Is this his business? Is he working for someone else?
Is it an office? A place where customers would come?
Did he realize he was in some level of danger by having only one door?
Is crime involved?
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Re: [Insight] The useless door

Postby Grip » Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:55 am

Is this place of business a hotel? office building?

What floor the room was on relevant?
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Re: [Insight] The useless door

Postby RedWine » Mon Feb 20, 2017 2:44 pm

Was the one door relevantly wider? Was only one door wide enough to enable the access for people on wheelchairs? Was the room in a hospital? Moving people on beds relevant?
Was the room in a court? or police station? Was the idea that witnesses enter through door A and exit through door B in order not to communicate with those who had not been questioned yet?
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Re: [Insight] The useless door

Postby Insight » Mon Feb 20, 2017 8:49 pm

Westing1992

Are the two doors on the same wall? No
Did he decide to turn the one room into two rooms? Irrelevant


Hobbsicle

Is this his business? Yes Is he working for someone else? No
Is it an office? Yes A place where customers would come? Yes
Did he realize he was in some level of danger by having only one door? YES
Is crime involved? DOYD of "involved" but Yes


Grip

Is this place of business a hotel? No office building? Yes
What floor the room was on relevant? YES


RedWine

Was the one door relevantly wider? No Was only one door wide enough to enable the access for people on wheelchairs? No Was the room in a hospital? No Moving people on beds relevant? No
Was the room in a court? No or police station? No Was the idea that witnesses enter through door A and exit through door B in order not to communicate with those who had not been questioned yet? No, but very interesting
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Re: [Insight] The useless door

Postby biograd » Mon Feb 20, 2017 9:46 pm

Is the benefit of two doors that if a threatening person were to enter through one door, he could leave through the other one?
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Re: [Insight] The useless door

Postby Insight » Mon Feb 20, 2017 11:50 pm

Is the benefit of two doors that if a threatening person were to enter through one door, he could leave through the other one? Not exactly, but OTRT
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Re: [Insight] The useless door

Postby Balin » Tue Feb 21, 2017 2:24 am

Is a fire escape somehow relevant?
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Re: [Insight] The useless door

Postby Insight » Tue Feb 21, 2017 3:48 am

Is a fire escape somehow relevant? No
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Re: [Insight] The useless door

Postby GalFisk » Tue Feb 21, 2017 6:45 am

Is the room on the ground floor? Is escaping relevant? Safety? Convenience?
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Re: [Insight] The useless door

Postby RedWine » Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:50 am

Does the business involve dealing with big sums of money? Is it a currency exchange point? Is the clerk relevantly separated from customers?
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Re: [Insight] The useless door

Postby Insight » Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:08 am

GalFisk

Is the room on the ground floor? YES Is escaping relevant? Not "escaping" Safety? YES Convenience? In a sense, yes


RedWine

Does the business involve dealing with big sums of money? YES Is it a currency exchange point? YES Is the clerk relevantly separated from customers? Not relevant
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Re: [Insight] The useless door

Postby Hobbsicle » Fri Feb 24, 2017 9:32 pm

So does he find it unsafe to take money in and out of the front door where everyone else is coming through?
And so decides a back door is needed behind the counter to make these deliveries happen safely?
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Re: [Insight] The useless door

Postby Insight » Mon Feb 27, 2017 8:11 pm

So does he find it unsafe to take money in and out of the front door where everyone else is coming through? YES
And so decides a back door is needed behind the counter to make these deliveries happen safely? The other door is not behind the counter. The "room" (which is actually an office) is bigger than a currency exchange point.
The only thing remaining to be found out is the difference between the doors. The doors were the same size, material and color. But there is something different. Why Philip chose to have this second door?
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Re: [Insight] The useless door

Postby Grip » Mon Feb 27, 2017 10:47 pm

Does the second door have any signage on it?
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Re: [Insight] The useless door

Postby Insight » Tue Feb 28, 2017 5:41 pm

Does the second door have any signage on it? No
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Re: [Insight] The useless door

Postby GalFisk » Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:03 pm

Mechanical properties of the doors relevant? Locks?? Size? Which way they open? What's outside? What they look like?
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Re: [Insight] The useless door

Postby Insight » Wed Mar 01, 2017 6:10 pm

Mechanical properties of the doors relevant? No Locks?? No Size? No Which way they open? No What's outside? YES What they look like? No
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Re: [Insight] The useless door

Postby biograd » Wed Mar 01, 2017 9:07 pm

Do they lead to different hallways? Does one lead directly to the outside of the building?
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Re: [Insight] The useless door

Postby Insight » Thu Mar 02, 2017 12:13 am

Do they lead to different hallways? No Does one lead directly to the outside of the building? YES!
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Re: [Insight] The useless door

Postby GalFisk » Thu Mar 02, 2017 12:50 pm

Does the bricked-up door lead directly outside? Does the other door? Does the bricked-up door lead to somewhere where he cannot be easily seen? Or followed? Somewhere where he can choose to leave the building by more than one exit?
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Re: [Insight] The useless door (SOLVED)

Postby Insight » Wed Mar 15, 2017 1:41 am

Sorry for the delay guys

Does the bricked-up door lead directly outside? No, good question Does the other door? Yes Does the bricked-up door lead to somewhere where he cannot be easily seen? Or followed? Somewhere where he can choose to leave the building by more than one exit? Yes

Time for a SPOILER
Philip is the owner of an office that exchanges money. The office had two doors one leading directly outside and the other one leading to a common hallway. He thought the latter to be useless so he bricked-up it. This was forbbiden per condominun rules, so they sue him. They settled an agreement that included him restoring the door.
The Condominium´s demand made Philip realize that entering and leaving through the door which led directly outside was dangerous because he could be robbed. By leaving through the door leading to the common hallway he could merge himself into the crowd entering and leaving the office building,

Congratulations guys, i hope you have enjoyed the puzzle.
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