[GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

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[GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby GalFisk » Sun Apr 09, 2017 8:20 pm

It is absolutely essential that you commit a pretty serious crime.
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby WiZ » Sun Apr 09, 2017 8:47 pm

Right-o. Just set fire to the House of Parliament. What next?

Seriously, though:

Does everybody do this? Every adult? Child? Is it done once? Is it still a crime in most/every jurisdiction? Would the performance of this crime ever be prosecuted?

Is the crime committed actively? Passively? Is it done in the course of another action, or is there a required action that is in itself somehow criminal?
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Postby Grip » Sun Apr 09, 2017 9:39 pm

Is the penalty for the crime very steep?
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby GalFisk » Mon Apr 10, 2017 7:17 am

Right-o. Just set fire to the House of Parliament. What next? Solve the puzzle and you'll have your new mission.

Seriously, though:

Does everybody do this? Every adult? Child? Is it done once? No to all. Is it still a crime in most/every jurisdiction? Noish, explore.Would the performance of this crime ever be prosecuted? Not if done in the way that's essential.

Is the crime committed actively? Passively? Can be either. Is it done in the course of another action, Yes.or is there a required action that is in itself somehow criminal? It would be criminal if it was done in a similar way.

Is the penalty for the crime very steep? I'm not sure. The crime is related to another crime which does carry very steep penalties.
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby Westing1992 » Mon Apr 10, 2017 5:13 pm

So, is it necessary to commit this crime when in the process of committing another crime? Is it one of things that's considered a crime so they can nab criminals more easily (sort of like income tax evasion being used to prosecute criminals who obtained income illegally)? Resisting arrest relevant?

It's essential because... it would get caught otherwise? And they couldn't be prosecuted because... they wouldn't be caught? They'd be dead?

Could one break this law unintentionally? Would an otherwise innocent person be able to break this law? Be prosecuted for it? Break it but he found innocent under the doctrine of absurdity (ex. a prisoner breaking out of a prison, but not being punished because the prison was on fire at the time)?
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby GalFisk » Mon Apr 10, 2017 7:13 pm

So, is it necessary to commit this crime when in the process of committing another crime? No. Is it one of things that's considered a crime so they can nab criminals more easily (sort of like income tax evasion being used to prosecute criminals who obtained income illegally)? Yesish. Resisting arrest relevant? No.

It's essential because... it would get caught otherwise? No. And they couldn't be prosecuted because... they wouldn't be caught? They'd be dead? No to both.

Could one break this law unintentionally? Would an otherwise innocent person be able to break this law? Be prosecuted for it? Yes to all. Break it but he found innocent Probably. under the doctrine of absurdity But not this. (ex. a prisoner breaking out of a prison, but not being punished because the prison was on fire at the time)? No.
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby Hobbsicle » Fri Apr 14, 2017 2:21 pm

Is it essential: for staying alive? For performing a certain task? For following another law?
Does breaking the law mean performing a certain action? Not performing a certain action?
Is the related crime murder? Assault? Theft? Forgery? Breaking and entering? Tax-related? Alcohol or drug related? Arson?
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby GalFisk » Fri Apr 14, 2017 10:36 pm

Is it essential: for staying alive? This/OTRT, explore.For performing a certain task? Yes. For following another law? Not 'law', otherwise yes.
Does breaking the law mean performing a certain action? This. Not performing a certain action?
Is the related crime murder? Assault? Theft? Forgery? Breaking and entering? Tax-related? Alcohol or drug related? Arson? No to all, though assault and murder are common elements in that crime.
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby Grip » Sun Apr 16, 2017 2:44 am

Is kidnapping relevant?
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby GalFisk » Sun Apr 16, 2017 4:13 am

Is kidnapping relevant? The related crime often involves a sort of kidnapping.
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby Grip » Sun Apr 16, 2017 5:18 pm

Do you have to commit the crime to escape from someone or something?
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby GalFisk » Mon Apr 17, 2017 5:19 am

Do you have to commit the crime to escape from someone or something? Noish, but somewhat OTRT.
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby Hobbsicle » Tue Apr 18, 2017 3:45 am

Are children relevant? Would you be in a particular place to do this? In a particular profession? Is the related crime hijacking? Hostage taking? Extortion?
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby GalFisk » Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:07 am

Are children relevant? No. Would you be in a particular place to do this? Yes. In a particular profession? Yesish, DOYD of "profession". Is the related crime hijacking? Yes. Hostage taking? Extortion? As part of a hijacking, yes to both.
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby Hobbsicle » Tue Apr 18, 2017 3:06 pm

If you were to hijack, would you necessarily be committing the other crime? And if you were committing the other crime, would you necessarily be hijacking? Is a certain kind of vehicle relevant? Car? Train? Plane? Bus?
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby GalFisk » Tue Apr 18, 2017 3:42 pm

If you were to hijack, would you necessarily be committing the other crime? And if you were committing the other crime, would you necessarily be hijacking? No to both. Is a certain kind of vehicle relevant? Yes. Car? Train? Plane? This. Bus?
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby Hobbsicle » Tue Apr 18, 2017 4:19 pm

Entering the cockpit relevant? Bringing something on board? Interacting with other people?

Would this scenario occur in an emergency? Would it apply to someone with a particular health condition?
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby GalFisk » Tue Apr 18, 2017 4:27 pm

Entering the cockpit relevant? No. Bringing something on board? Yes. Interacting with other people? Yope.

Would this scenario occur in an emergency? Yesish,
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Would it apply to someone with a particular health condition? No.
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby Hobbsicle » Thu Apr 20, 2017 4:08 am

Would simply the bringing of the something on board be illegal? Or what you do with it later? Would the emergency-ish situation occur before the flight leaves? During the flight?
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby GalFisk » Thu Apr 20, 2017 4:32 am

Would simply the bringing of the something on board be illegal? Yes. Or what you do with it later? No.
Would the emergency-ish situation occur before the flight leaves? During the flight? This.
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby biograd » Thu Apr 20, 2017 2:26 pm

Would the object illegally brought on board be a type of weapon? Would it be used to get people out of the plane during an emergency? to repair some part of the plane?
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby Westing1992 » Thu Apr 20, 2017 3:58 pm

Is the item a container of liquid?
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby GalFisk » Thu Apr 20, 2017 4:29 pm

Would the object illegally brought on board be a type of weapon? Yes. Would it be used to get people out of the plane during an emergency? No, but OTRT. to repair some part of the plane? No

Is the item a container of liquid? No.
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby Grip » Thu Apr 20, 2017 7:54 pm

Is the weapon a gun?

Are air marshals relevant?
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby GalFisk » Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:19 pm

Is the weapon a gun? No.

Are air marshals relevant? No
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby Grip » Sat Apr 22, 2017 4:12 pm

Is the weapon a knife? bomb? poison? something more exotic like a throwing star or sword?
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby GalFisk » Sat Apr 22, 2017 5:14 pm

Is the weapon a knife? Yes. bomb? poison? something more exotic like a throwing star or sword?
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby Grip » Sun Apr 23, 2017 4:40 pm

Is the knife needed to thwart/counterattack the hijackers? threaten them?
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby GalFisk » Sun Apr 23, 2017 4:43 pm

Is the knife needed to thwart/counterattack the hijackers? FA. threaten them? No to both.
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby Grip » Sun Apr 23, 2017 4:47 pm

Is the knife needed to hijack the plane?
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby GalFisk » Sun Apr 23, 2017 5:58 pm

Is the knife needed to hijack the plane? No.
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby Grip » Wed Apr 26, 2017 12:36 am

Is the knife needed for something other than as a weapon?
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby GalFisk » Wed Apr 26, 2017 2:48 am

Is the knife needed for something other than as a weapon? Yes.
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby Hobbsicle » Mon May 01, 2017 12:48 pm

Would the person bringing on the knife be aware that the emergency-ish situation would occur? Or might occur? And that is why they would bring on the knife?
Is the situation related to weather? To equipment malfunction? To war? To crime? To a medical emergency?
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby GalFisk » Mon May 01, 2017 8:11 pm

Would the person bringing on the knife be aware that the emergency-ish situation would occur? Or might occur? This. And that is why they would bring on the knife? Yes.
Is the situation related to weather? To equipment malfunction? This. To war? To crime? To a medical emergency?
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby Grip » Mon May 01, 2017 11:19 pm

Is the knife to be used for prying something?
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby GalFisk » Tue May 02, 2017 5:13 am

Is the knife to be used for prying something? No
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby Hobbsicle » Sat May 06, 2017 3:07 am

Would the knife repair equipment? Cut seatbelts? Cut some other part of the plane? Would the knife be taken on by a passenger? By the staff? By the pilot?
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby GalFisk » Sat May 06, 2017 5:50 am

Would the knife repair equipment? Cut seatbelts? Cut some other part of the plane? No to all. Would the knife be taken on by a passenger? No. By the staff? This is closest. By the pilot? But this is also OTRT.
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby Grip » Sat May 06, 2017 5:27 pm

Would the knife by taken on the plane by a security figure?

Would the knife be used for magnetization type purposes? as a replacement lever or joystick for a broken one?
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby GalFisk » Sun May 07, 2017 10:34 am

Would the knife by taken on the plane by a security figure? A security figure-ish, and to a lesser extent the pilot, would demand that the knife be present, but who actually takes it is less important.

Would the knife be used for magnetization type purposes? as a replacement lever or joystick for a broken one? Interesting guesses, but no to both.
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby Hobbsicle » Wed May 10, 2017 3:24 pm

Would the knife be used to cut anything? To stab something? Puncture something? Scrape something? Be inserted into something? Pry something? Turn something? Screw something? Complete a circuit?

Is the mechanical failure to the engines? Wings? Landing gear? Electrical equipment? Something in the cockpit? In the cabin?

Would the mechanical failure occur in flight? Is the mechanism already known to be faulty before leaving?
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby GalFisk » Wed May 10, 2017 5:01 pm

Would the knife be used to cut anything? This, No to the rest. To stab something? Puncture something? Scrape something? Be inserted into something? Pry something? Turn something? Screw something? Complete a circuit?

Is the mechanical failure to the engines? Wings? Landing gear? Electrical equipment? Something in the cockpit? In the cabin? No to all, technically, but the cabin is relevant.

Would the mechanical failure occur in flight? Yes. Is the mechanism already known to be faulty before leaving? Yope, explore.
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby JenBurdoo » Sun May 14, 2017 6:29 pm

Is defection relevant? (A man who hijacks or steals a plane to get to freedom, for example.) Is damage done to the aircraft or its ability to fly or carry passengers safely?
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Postby GalFisk » Sun May 14, 2017 6:32 pm

Is defection relevant? (A man who hijacks or steals a plane to get to freedom, for example.) No Is damage done to the aircraft or its ability to fly or carry passengers safely? There is a danger of such damage if the knife is not on board.
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby JenBurdoo » Sun May 14, 2017 9:58 pm

Is the knife used to repair or jury-rig something?
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby GalFisk » Mon May 15, 2017 6:40 am

Is the knife used to repair or jury-rig something? No.
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby Hobbsicle » Sun May 21, 2017 5:07 pm

So would there be a mechanical failure before using the knife? Or does using the knife prevent the mechanical failure? Is the knife used in the cabin? Does it cut live organic matter? Food? Fabric? Plastic? Other synthetic material? Wood? Metal? Glass?
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby GalFisk » Sun May 21, 2017 5:45 pm

So would there be a mechanical failure before using the knife? Yes. Or does using the knife prevent the mechanical failure? No. Is the knife used in the cabin? Yes. Does it cut live organic matter? Food? Fabric? This. Plastic? Other synthetic material? Wood? Metal? Glass?
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby biograd » Thu May 25, 2017 3:43 pm

Is the knife used to cut off a piece of fabric that can then be used somewhere else in the plane to repair the mechanical failure? or conversely, is what remains of some object, after removing a piece of fabric FROM it, used to repair something? If so, is it cut off from one of the seat cushions? from a crew member's clothing? would it suffice just to bring an equivalently sized/shaped/etc. piece of fabric on all flights?
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby GalFisk » Thu May 25, 2017 6:30 pm

Is the knife used to cut off a piece of fabric that can then be used somewhere else in the plane to repair the mechanical failure? or conversely, is what remains of some object, after removing a piece of fabric FROM it, used to repair something? If so, is it cut off from one of the seat cushions? from a crew member's clothing? would it suffice just to bring an equivalently sized/shaped/etc. piece of fabric on all flights?
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby biograd » Sat May 27, 2017 4:32 am

Is the knife used to send a distress signal of some kind? to provide an alternate way of accomplishing the same purpose that the failing mechanical part would otherwise have accomplished?
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby GalFisk » Sat May 27, 2017 7:55 pm

Is the knife used to send a distress signal of some kind? to provide an alternate way of accomplishing the same purpose that the failing mechanical part would otherwise have accomplished? No to both.
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby Acridian9 » Sun May 28, 2017 2:01 am

Parachutes relevant? Seat belts?
Relevant who takes the knife on board? Who uses it? the same person? the pilot?
Relevant who says the puzzle statement (if it is spoken)?
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby GalFisk » Sun May 28, 2017 5:51 am

Parachutes relevant? Yes Seat belts? No.
Relevant who takes the knife on board? No. Who uses it? Yes. the same person? Maybe. the pilot? The pilot does not use the knife.
Relevant who says the puzzle statement (if it is spoken)? It is not spoken.
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby Acridian9 » Mon May 29, 2017 1:51 am

A parachute not opening properly relevant?
Relevant which type of flight or plane? an ordinary airliner? a miliary plane? a light aircraft?
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby GalFisk » Mon May 29, 2017 5:36 am

A parachute not opening properly relevant? Yes.
Relevant which type of flight or plane? Yes. an ordinary airliner? a miliary plane? a light aircraft? This.
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby Acridian9 » Mon May 29, 2017 11:56 am

That string which lets a parachute open automatically wen a person jumps off the plane relevant?
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby GalFisk » Mon May 29, 2017 2:04 pm

That string which lets a parachute open automatically wen a person jumps off the plane relevant? Yes indeed. It's called a static line, in case you wanted to know.
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby Grip » Mon May 29, 2017 4:59 pm

Is the possibility of a parachute's strings getting caught in a tree or other object relevant?
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby Acridian9 » Mon May 29, 2017 5:30 pm

So the knife is used to cut the static line in case it doesn't detach from a parachute?
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby GalFisk » Mon May 29, 2017 7:04 pm

Is the possibility of a parachute's strings getting caught in a tree or other object relevant?
Yes.
So the knife is used to cut the static line in case it doesn't detach from a parachute?
Yes.

SPOILER:
Having weapons on airplanes is normally strictly forbidden. But skydiving airplanes have a big sharp knife near the door, in case the static line gets hung up or some part of a skydiver's clothing or equipment gets stuck.
Static line jumping is not common outside the military, but it's sometimes used for the first jumps of students.
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra (SOLVED)

Postby Balin » Wed May 31, 2017 1:28 am

I really need to remember to guess "skydiving" as soon as a plane appears in a Galfisk puzzle. Good one!
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra (SOLVED)

Postby GalFisk » Thu Jun 01, 2017 4:09 am

But I don't post a new non-explicit skydiving puzzle until people stop asking if skydiving is involved ;)
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