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Postby JenBurdoo » Mon Apr 10, 2017 4:34 am

... but then his horse stops short in the middle of the street and he can't get it to move. What's going on?
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Postby Doriana » Mon Apr 10, 2017 8:56 am

Horse = an actual live animal? If so, relevant what breed of horse?

Does this happen during a time period when it was common for people to travel by horse?

Relevant where the man came from? where he was going?
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Postby JenBurdoo » Mon Apr 10, 2017 2:17 pm

Horse = an actual live animal? Yes. If so, relevant what breed of horse? No.

Does this happen during a time period when it was common for people to travel by horse? Yes.

Relevant where the man came from? where he was going? Only mildly.
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Postby Doriana » Mon Apr 10, 2017 2:23 pm

Is the horse scared? startled? sick?

Is something physically blocking the horse's way?

Has the horse been to the place before?

Other people relevant? Time of day relevant?
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Postby GalFisk » Mon Apr 10, 2017 2:55 pm

Does the horse: want to move? Try to move? Understand the commands to move? Relevant how the commands are given? Is the horse physically stuck? Quicksand relevant?
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Postby JenBurdoo » Mon Apr 10, 2017 5:43 pm

Is the horse scared? startled? sick? No to all.

Is something physically blocking the horse's way? No.

Has the horse been to the place before? Yes.

Other people relevant? Yes. Time of day relevant? No, but...

Does the horse: want to move? Try to move? Understand the commands to move? Yes. Relevant how the commands are given? Is the horse physically stuck? Quicksand relevant? No to all else.
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Postby Doriana » Mon Apr 10, 2017 6:41 pm

Time of year relevant? Day of the week relevant?
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Postby JenBurdoo » Mon Apr 10, 2017 8:19 pm

The time at which the puzzle statement occurs is irrelevant.
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Postby WiZ » Mon Apr 10, 2017 9:32 pm

Is another person somehow commanding or controlling the horse?
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Postby Grip » Mon Apr 10, 2017 10:33 pm

The horse is a horse, not say a dog named "Horse," correct?

Is the horse's size relevant?
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Postby JenBurdoo » Tue Apr 11, 2017 12:14 am

Is another person somehow commanding or controlling the horse? No.

The horse is a horse, not say a dog named "Horse," correct? Correct.

Is the horse's size relevant? No.
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Postby Grip » Tue Apr 11, 2017 12:53 am

Is the town an old west town?
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Postby JenBurdoo » Tue Apr 11, 2017 2:19 am

Is the town an old west town? Irrelevant.
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Postby Balin » Tue Apr 11, 2017 3:20 am

Is the horse still alive after stopping? Did it die suddenly?
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Postby peter365 » Tue Apr 11, 2017 7:47 am

PM Sent!
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Postby GalFisk » Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:41 am

Can the horse lift it's hooves? Is the horse mentally unable to move? Physically unable? Supernaturally unable? Relevant what the horse sees? Hears? Feels? Is it ever able to move again? Is it removed from the spot by some other means than walking?
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Postby JenBurdoo » Tue Apr 11, 2017 12:28 pm

PM Sent! Good solution and OTRT, but not the one I had in mind.

Can the horse lift it's hooves? Yes. Is the horse mentally unable to move? Physically unable? Supernaturally unable? Relevant what the horse sees? Yes. Hears? Feels? Is it ever able to move again? Yes. Is it removed from the spot by some other means than walking? No to all else.
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Postby GalFisk » Tue Apr 11, 2017 12:49 pm

Does the horse see: horse(s)? Human(s)? Building(s)? Object(s)? Something on the ground? Something in its way?
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Postby Balin » Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:23 pm

I think you missed these:

Is the horse still alive after stopping? Did it die suddenly?
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Postby JenBurdoo » Wed Apr 12, 2017 3:30 am

I think you missed these: Whoops, thanks!

Is the horse still alive after stopping? Yes. Did it die suddenly? No.

Does the horse see: horse(s)? Human(s)? Building(s)? This. Object(s)? Something on the ground? Something in its way? None of the others are relevant.
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Postby WiZ » Wed Apr 12, 2017 3:43 am

Is there light relevantly shining off the building, blinding the horse?
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Postby JenBurdoo » Wed Apr 12, 2017 3:59 pm

Is there light relevantly shining off the building, blinding the horse? No.
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Postby Grip » Wed Apr 12, 2017 4:08 pm

WG: Did the horse see a glue factory building?
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Postby JenBurdoo » Wed Apr 12, 2017 7:02 pm

WG: Did the horse see a glue factory building? No.
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Postby GalFisk » Wed Apr 12, 2017 7:49 pm

Would any horse stop when seeing this building? Relevant what the building is for? Is a pun relevant? A joke? Has the horse seen this building before? Or one like it? Has it stopped in this way before? Is it doing something it was trained or conditioned to do?
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Postby Grip » Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:07 pm

Is there anything special about the horse (i.e. it can talk?)
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Postby JenBurdoo » Thu Apr 13, 2017 2:04 am

Would any horse stop when seeing this building? No. Relevant what the building is for? Not particularly; many would do. Is a pun relevant? No. A joke? No. Has the horse seen this building before? Yes. Or one like it? Irr. Has it stopped in this way before? Yes. Is it doing something it was trained or conditioned to do? Yes.

Is there anything special about the horse (i.e. it can talk?) No.
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Postby WiZ » Thu Apr 13, 2017 2:55 am

Is this situation analogous to the one the horse is trained to react to? Is the horse's 'occupation' relevant? Was it war horse? A work horse? Did it have a function at court?
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Postby WiZ » Thu Apr 13, 2017 2:58 am

Is this situation analogous to the one the horse is trained to react to? Is the horse's prior/current 'occupation' relevant? Was it war horse? A work horse? Did it have a function at court?
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Postby GalFisk » Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:18 am

Is the horse waiting for something? For food? For a human? Did the man get this horse from someone else? Is the horse named Friday? Was it a mail horse?
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Postby JenBurdoo » Sat Apr 15, 2017 1:52 am

Is this situation analogous to the one the horse is trained to react to? Yes. Is the horse's prior/current 'occupation' relevant? Mildly. Was it war horse? Yes. A work horse? Did it have a function at court? No.

Is the horse waiting for something? Yes. For food? This. For a human? Did the man get this horse from someone else? Is the horse named Friday? Was it a mail horse? No to the others.
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Postby Hobbsicle » Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:15 am

Was it trained to do this because of the danger the building might represent? Out of deference or submission? In the case that the horse was stolen?
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Postby JenBurdoo » Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:18 pm

Was it trained to do this because of the danger the building might represent? Out of deference or submission? In the case that the horse was stolen? No to all. You have an FA.
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Postby GalFisk » Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:10 am

Was the horse intentionally trained to do this? Or was it conditioned as a byproduct of feeding routines? Was it in a war?
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Postby JenBurdoo » Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:28 pm

Was the horse intentionally trained to do this? No. Or was it conditioned as a byproduct of feeding routines? Yes. Explore. Was it in a war? Yes, although there are other conditions under which this might happen.
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Postby Hobbsicle » Sat Apr 22, 2017 2:12 am

Is the building a relevant color? Size? Shape? Does it have a relevant feature (e.g chimney)? Adorned with something (e.g. flag)?

Does the horse expect to soon be in battle? Are battle lines relevant?
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Postby JenBurdoo » Sat Apr 22, 2017 4:01 am

Is the building a relevant color? Size? Shape? Does it have a relevant feature (e.g chimney)? Adorned with something (e.g. flag)? None of these.

Does the horse expect to soon be in battle? Are battle lines relevant? No to both.
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Postby GalFisk » Sun Apr 23, 2017 3:44 pm

Was the horse usually fed in front of this exact building? A similar building? Was the man and horse stationed in such a building during the war?
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Postby JenBurdoo » Sun Apr 23, 2017 3:58 pm

Was the horse usually fed in front of this exact building? Not exactly, but very relevant! A similar building? Was the man and horse stationed in such a building during the war? No to the others.
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Postby GalFisk » Sun Apr 23, 2017 4:44 pm

Was it fed: near this building? Inside it? Near one just like it?
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Postby JenBurdoo » Sun Apr 23, 2017 7:55 pm

Modification:

Was the horse usually fed in front of this exact building? Yes. Explore.
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Postby Hobbsicle » Wed Apr 26, 2017 5:46 pm

Was he fed in the same general area that he stopped? Or from another vantage point? Was he conditioned by regular meal times? Or was this feeding in relation to training of some kind?
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Postby JenBurdoo » Wed Apr 26, 2017 6:58 pm

Was he fed in the same general area that he stopped? The specific area where he stopped. Or from another vantage point? No. Was he conditioned by regular meal times? Yesish. Or was this feeding in relation to training of some kind? For SVV of training.
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Postby Hobbsicle » Wed May 03, 2017 1:33 am

Is this part of the horse's patrol? Is this where he typically stops for a mid-day meal? Is it particularly relevant that it's a building? Or could it have been a rock formation?
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Postby JenBurdoo » Wed May 03, 2017 2:26 am

Is this part of the horse's patrol? No, but it does regularly pass this way. Is this where he typically stops for a mid-day meal? A morning snack, more like. Is it particularly relevant that it's a building? Yes. Or could it have been a rock formation? No.

Very close to solution.
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Postby Hobbsicle » Sun May 07, 2017 8:46 pm

Was the horse normally around other people/horses? Was it part of a line of horses that stopped here? Did the building signify something in particular? Like the border of something? A town? A military base?
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Postby JenBurdoo » Mon May 08, 2017 10:50 am

Was the horse normally around other people/horses? Yes. Was it part of a line of horses that stopped here? There were many horses present, but it was the only one that stopped. Did the building signify something in particular? It signified something to the horse. Like the border of something? A town? A military base? None of these.
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Postby Hobbsicle » Mon May 15, 2017 2:55 pm

Was the horse specifically instructed, on a usual basis, to stop at that exact spot? Did the rider usually dismount there? And go to the building?
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Postby JenBurdoo » Mon May 15, 2017 7:40 pm

Was the horse specifically instructed, on a usual basis, to stop at that exact spot? Not deliberately, but yes, it developed a routine of halting at that spot. Why? Did the rider usually dismount there? Irr. And go to the building? Irr.
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Postby Hobbsicle » Sat May 20, 2017 2:35 am

Alright, let me see if I can break this down a little:

The horse, on a daily basis, is walking this particular road with a rider on him? The horse stops at a particular point? Does the rider want him to stop? Expect him to stop, given what is taking place?

Are the other present horses going in the same direction? In the opposite direction? Perpendicular? Is the horse needing to wait for the other horses? Is something typically impeding the horse's progress? Cattle drive?

Does the rider give the horse a snack because the horse is already needing to wait, so it's as convenient a time as any?
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Postby JenBurdoo » Mon May 22, 2017 3:39 am

Alright, let me see if I can break this down a little:

The horse, on a daily basis, is walking this particular road with a rider on him? The horse stops at a particular point? Does the rider want him to stop? Expect him to stop, given what is taking place? Yes to all. Very good.

Are the other present horses going in the same direction? This. In the opposite direction? Perpendicular? Is the horse needing to wait for the other horses? No. Is something typically impeding the horse's progress? Cattle drive? No to both.

Does the rider give the horse a snack because the horse is already needing to wait, so it's as convenient a time as any? On the previous occasions, assume yes. But not this one, hence the unexpected halt.

I think there is an FA here, but we really are quite close to solution.
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Postby GalFisk » Sun May 28, 2017 6:07 am

So the rider is riding the same route on the same horse as many times before? Is he riding along other people on horses now? Was he before? And each time before, they needed to stop in front of this building, and took the opportunity to feed the horses? But this time it's diffferent? Is it different because a war has ended? A front has moved? The job of the rider has changed? Is he doing a job?
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Postby JenBurdoo » Tue May 30, 2017 1:45 am

Hint: There is a significant and relevant FA about the rider.

So the rider is riding the same route on the same horse as many times before? Yes, but see FA. Is he riding along other people on horses now? Yes. Was he before? No. And each time before, they needed to stop in front of this building, and took the opportunity to feed the horses? Yes. But this time it's diffferent? Yes. Is it different because a war has ended? OTRT. A front has moved? OTRT. The job of the rider has changed? Yes. Is he doing a job? Yes.
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Postby GalFisk » Tue May 30, 2017 3:54 am

Is the rider H? A? M? Is the rider the same now as when the horse was conditioned to stop? Is it always the same rider who uses this horse? Is the rider still alive?
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Postby JenBurdoo » Tue May 30, 2017 4:58 am

Is the rider H? A? M? Yes. Is the rider the same now as when the horse was conditioned to stop? No. Is it always the same rider who uses this horse? No. Is the rider still alive? Yes.
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Postby Hobbsicle » Mon Jun 05, 2017 5:51 pm

Has the horse changed sides (or rather, the rider, I suppose)? Was the horse decommissioned, and is now being ridden for civilian purposes? Or is the horse NOW a war horse, whereas it wasn't earlier? Is the specific current job/current situation relevant? Past job?
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Postby JenBurdoo » Mon Jun 05, 2017 11:11 pm

Has the horse changed sides (or rather, the rider, I suppose)? Just the rider. It has not "switched sides." Highly relevant, in fact the main thing you need to know. Was the horse decommissioned, and is now being ridden for civilian purposes? Or is the horse NOW a war horse, whereas it wasn't earlier? No to both - it has been and remains a war horse. This could happen in civilian circumstances, however. Is the specific current job/current situation relevant? No, only that it's different. Past job? Yes.
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Postby GalFisk » Tue Jun 06, 2017 4:22 pm

Did the place where the horse now stops switch sides? Were the people who always fed the horse in that place dead? Chased away? Had they surrendered? Gotten captured?
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Postby JenBurdoo » Tue Jun 06, 2017 6:28 pm

Did the place where the horse now stops switch sides? Were the people who always fed the horse in that place dead? Chased away? Had they surrendered? Gotten captured? No to all. No combat or occupation is going on, and the people who had been feeding the horse are happy, healthy and present (which is why the problem is quickly and satisfactorily resolved).
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Postby Hobbsicle » Thu Jun 08, 2017 5:16 pm

Are there details about the riders that are relevant? Was it previously ridden by an officer or general? Is it now?

I think I had gotten mixed up earlier. So the horses are around now? But they were not in previous instances?

Are we looking for more information on why the horse stopped in previous instances? Did its rider have business at the building in question? Or near it? Was it near any relevant borders? Did the rider need permission to travel further?
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Postby JenBurdoo » Fri Jun 09, 2017 5:16 pm

Are there details about the riders that are relevant? Yes. Good question. Was it previously ridden by an officer or general? No. Is it now? Yes.

I think I had gotten mixed up earlier. So the horses are around now? But they were not in previous instances? One horse was present previously; It's irrelevant how many are present now beyond the same horse.

Are we looking for more information on why the horse stopped in previous instances? Yes. Did its rider have business at the building in question? Yes. Or near it? Was it near any relevant borders? Did the rider need permission to travel further? No to the others.
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Postby Hobbsicle » Tue Jun 13, 2017 2:05 am

Is the first rider a soldier? Is he training the horse? Does he relevantly anticipate the change in riders? Is there a relevant reason why the officer/general would have chosen this horse to ride?
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Postby JenBurdoo » Tue Jun 13, 2017 2:43 am

Is the first rider a soldier? Yes. Is he training the horse? Not exactly, but OTRT. Does he relevantly anticipate the change in riders? Yes, but there's something he misses. Is there a relevant reason why the officer/general would have chosen this horse to ride? It's his own horse.
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Postby SurfingPikachu » Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:22 pm

Did the horse see the first rider?

Edit: or someone who used to feed him?
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Postby Hobbsicle » Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:39 pm

Is the first rider caretaker of the horse?

So we are essentially now figuring out why the first man stopped, correct?
Is it part of his duty to stop there? Is he responding to a physical need? Does he relevantly take something into the building? Out of it?

Are his reasons for stopping something that would not apply to an officer? Are physical traits relevant? Gender? Age?
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Postby JenBurdoo » Thu Jun 15, 2017 12:57 am

Did the horse see the first rider? No.

Edit: or someone who used to feed him? Assume yes.

Is the first rider caretaker of the horse? Yes!

So we are essentially now figuring out why the first man stopped, correct? Yes.
Is it part of his duty to stop there? Is he responding to a physical need? Does he relevantly take something into the building? Out of it? No to all.

Are his reasons for stopping something that would not apply to an officer? Not necessarily. Are physical traits relevant? Gender? This. Age?

Good enough, I'm calling it here.


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This occurred during a parade of soldiers through the local town, with their commanding officer at the head. Unbeknownst to the commander, the man who trained and exercised his horse regularly took it past a shop where he would stop to visit with the shopkeeper's daughter and buy an apple for the horse. To the horse, passing this shop meant he could stop until he was given a treat!
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Re: [JenBurdoo] A man rides into town on Friday... (Ready to

Postby Hobbsicle » Thu Jun 15, 2017 1:52 am

Nice, I felt like my three-year-old there for a while: "Go get your shoes, it's time to go. They're right there, on the floor! Right there. No, not over there, right in front of you! Look where I'm pointing."

But I did enjoy this puzzle, and now I'm hoping you'll come up with another soon.
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