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[WiZ] The question wasn't racist, but -

Postby WiZ » Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:07 am

When I was in primary school, the teacher once asked a question of the class. Students of Maori and Asian descent were able to answer with confidence, but students of European descent were generally stuck. What was the question?

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Re: [WiZ] The question wasn't racist, but -

Postby LemonCurry » Fri Apr 21, 2017 6:32 am

Was the question related to Language? Family? History? Culture? Anatomy? Geography?
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Re: [WiZ] The question wasn't racist, but -

Postby Balin » Sat Apr 22, 2017 12:08 am

Probably not, but: Was the answer "with confidence"?
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Postby JenBurdoo » Tue Apr 25, 2017 4:46 am

Good one, Balin!

Would the answer be the same for all students who answered it? Is it a yes/no question? One with an objectively correct answer? Or can the question apply to everyone differently?

Is grade level relevant - ie, would older students have been better or less able to answer the question?

Class relevant? Private, public or parochial school?
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Re: [WiZ] The question wasn't racist, but -

Postby WiZ » Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:08 pm

LemonCurry

Was the question related to Language? Family? yes History? yes Culture? no Anatomy? yes Geography? no

Balin

Probably not, but: Was the answer "with confidence"? No, but I like the way you think

JenBurdoo

Would the answer be the same for all students who answered it? yes Is it a yes/no question? no One with an objectively correct answer? yesOr can the question apply to everyone differently? but also yes

Is grade level relevant - ie, would older students have been better or less able to answer the question? no

Class relevant? no Private, public or parochial school? I went to a state-funded rural school, if we're painting a word picture here.
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Re: [WiZ] The question wasn't racist, but -

Postby Westing1992 » Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:25 pm

Genetics relevant? Inherited traits?
Were the students of Asian/Maori descent mixed race?
Was this in regards to a certain subject? Biology? Another science? History? Literature? Math (probably not)?
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Re: [WiZ] The question wasn't racist, but -

Postby WiZ » Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:31 pm

Genetics relevant? yes Inherited traits? yes
Were the students of Asian/Maori descent mixed race? no, as a rule, although a mixed Maori/Asian student (like a young Bic Runga) could answer with equal confidence.
Was this in regards to a certain subject? no Biology? Another science? History? Literature? Math (probably not)?
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Re: [WiZ] The question wasn't racist, but -

Postby Balin » Wed Apr 26, 2017 11:25 am

Is the question related to something that everyone could see? Such as eye color?
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Re: [WiZ] The question wasn't racist, but -

Postby Grip » Wed Apr 26, 2017 2:41 pm

Did the question offend anyone?
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Re: [WiZ] The question wasn't racist, but -

Postby Westing1992 » Wed Apr 26, 2017 3:45 pm

Is a specific trait relevant? Eye shape? Lactose intolerance? Another sort of allergy?
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Re: [WiZ] The question wasn't racist, but -

Postby Lynne » Wed Apr 26, 2017 5:13 pm

Anything to do with sickle cell anemia?
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Re: [WiZ] The question wasn't racist, but -

Postby WiZ » Wed Apr 26, 2017 9:10 pm

Balin

Is the question related to something that everyone could see? yes Such as eye color? but no

Grip

Did the question offend anyone? No - and most probably not in retrospect

Westing

Is a specific trait relevant? yes Eye shape? no Lactose intolerance? no Another sort of allergy? no

Lynne

Anything to do with sickle cell anemia? No - it was something more easily observable
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Re: [WiZ] The question wasn't racist, but -

Postby Balin » Wed Apr 26, 2017 9:57 pm

Trait: height? Weight? Hair color? Skin color? The size of some body part? (get your mind out of the gutter, I was thinking of hands)
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Re: [WiZ] The question wasn't racist, but -

Postby WiZ » Wed Apr 26, 2017 9:59 pm

Trait: height? Weight? Hair color? this - the question pertained in some way to hair colour Skin color? The size of some body part? (get your mind out of the gutter, I was thinking of hands) no to rest
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Re: [WiZ] The question wasn't racist, but -

Postby Westing1992 » Thu Apr 27, 2017 12:12 am

Black vs. Blonde hair relevant? Baldness? Hair dying?
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Re: [WiZ] The question wasn't racist, but -

Postby WiZ » Thu Apr 27, 2017 12:18 am

Black vs. Blonde hair relevant? this plays a part in the solution Baldness? Hair dying? no to these
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Re: [WiZ] The question wasn't racist, but -

Postby Balin » Thu Apr 27, 2017 10:30 am

Is red hair also involved?
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Postby WiZ » Thu Apr 27, 2017 9:00 pm

Is red hair also involved? Potentially, but not necessarily. Slight correction: the same would also apply to blonde hair
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Re: [WiZ] The question wasn't racist, but -

Postby GalFisk » Fri May 05, 2017 12:52 pm

Is an experience unique to those with dark hair relevant? To those in communities where everyone has dark hair? Is any other quality of hair relevant?
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Re: [WiZ] The question wasn't racist, but -

Postby WiZ » Fri May 05, 2017 8:44 pm

Is an experience 'experience' isn't quite right unique to those with dark hair relevant? noish, see above To those in communities where everyone has dark hair? yes, homogeneity in the community is relevant, explore Is any other quality of hair relevant? No other phenotypical aspect of hair is relevant... but there are some other relevant principles at play that relate to colour, explore
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Re: [WiZ] The question wasn't racist, but -

Postby irishelk » Mon May 08, 2017 3:27 pm

Is the question to do with what hair color one's relatives/ancestors have/had? I.e., because darker hair tends to be a dominant trait, those who have it can answer with more confidence that most of their relatives had it? Is the question something like--"What was your grandmother's hair color before it went white?"

Does the question primarily test the children's knowledge? If so, about themselves? About their family? About their classmates? About their heritage? About genetics?
Or does it test the children's ability to reason? Or, perhaps, is it being asked for a more practical reason in the classroom (like a teacher might ask, "who needs to use the bathroom")?

Is clothing relevant? Hair dye?
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Re: [WiZ] The question wasn't racist, but -

Postby WiZ » Mon May 08, 2017 8:31 pm

Is the question to do with what hair color one's relatives/ancestors have/had? I.e., because darker hair tends to be a dominant trait, those who have it can answer with more confidence that most of their relatives had it? Is the question something like--"What was your grandmother's hair color before it went white?" yes

***** SPOILER *****

The question was 'What colour was your grandmother's hair when she was growing up?'. Most Caucasian students had only ever seen their grandparents with grey hair, or in black-and-white photographs. Maori and Asian students could uniformly answer 'black' with confidence.


Excellent work, Irishelk, and some good questions from the rest of you.
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Re: [WiZ] The question wasn't racist, but - [GREYED OUT]

Postby irishelk » Wed May 10, 2017 11:35 am

Yay, score one for the WAG! Great idea for a puzzle.
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