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[Solong] repose is taboo'd

Postby Solong » Sun Jun 11, 2017 9:29 pm

Joe woke up in a cold sweat, relieved that his dream was not real.
But the effects of it clung to him for half the day.
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Re: [Solong] repose is taboo'd

Postby WiZ » Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:57 pm

Were the 'effects' of the dream a consequence of what they contained? Did they stir up a relevant emotion? Fear? Disgust?

Did they contain relevant information? A relevant quote, image etc. that stuck with him? Placed into the context of his real life, did he then come to a realisation? Did he learn something about himself?

Did he wake up in a cold sweat because the dream was a nightmare? Was there any external contributing factor?

Did the cold sweat itself have any relevant flow-on effects?

Did he fall asleep at night-time and wake up in the morning? Are the events of the day relevant? Did 'half the day' end at midday? In the late afternoon? In the evening? Did circumstances change, or some relevant event occur, that ceased the effects? Did the effects have some sort of innate duration?
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Re: [Solong] repose is taboo'd

Postby biograd » Mon Jun 12, 2017 5:33 am

It was finally discovered that my newest neologism refers to a type of dream, and now here we go, a new dream-related puzzle was posted at around the same time. What a coincidence...

Was there some sort of eerie connection between what happened in the dream and what happened that day? Did the dream make him realize something that he could use in real life?
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Postby Earnest » Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:45 am

did he wake up in the middle of the night? In the morning? Relevant what woke him up?
Relevant where he woke up? Was him a soldier? A patient? Relevant his profession?

Did the dream/nightmare directly had an effect on him?the sweat? Or maybe the fact that he was awaken and then he was tired at job? Or again was the fact that he fall asleep that produced effects (negative?positive?) on him?

Relevant that it was half the day and not the entire day? Or do you mean that the effects did not continue the next night/day? Was it a recurrent situation?Did he suffer from some disease? Is his personal life relevant?Sonnambulism relevant? Did he do some relevant action a part from sleeping while he was dreaming?Before?After?
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Postby SurfingPikachu » Mon Jun 12, 2017 2:05 pm

I'm going to go for the absolute moonshot WAG here and say that the answer to this is the answer to the Not Yiddish thread and that you and biograd are actually flirting.....
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Re: [Solong] repose is taboo'd

Postby Solong » Mon Jun 12, 2017 3:01 pm

Were the 'effects' of the dream a consequence of what they contained? Yes Did they stir up a relevant emotion? Yes Fear? Disgust? Mixed emotions, no doubt, but not primarily either of these.

Did they contain relevant information? A relevant quote, image etc. that stuck with him? Placed into the context of his real life, did he then come to a realisation? Did he learn something about himself? No or n.r. to all.

Did he wake up in a cold sweat because the dream was a nightmare? Yes! Was there any external contributing factor? No.

Did the cold sweat itself have any relevant flow-on effects? No.

Did he fall asleep at night-time and wake up in the morning? Yes, but n.r. Are the events of the day relevant? n.r. Did 'half the day' end at midday? approximately noon, let's say In the late afternoon? In the evening? Did circumstances change, or some relevant event occur, that ceased the effects? Did the effects have some sort of innate duration? Yopish
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Postby Solong » Mon Jun 12, 2017 3:07 pm

Was there some sort of eerie connection between what happened in the dream and what happened that day? Did the dream make him realize something that he could use in real life? No to both
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Postby Solong » Mon Jun 12, 2017 3:18 pm

did he wake up in the middle of the night? In the morning? n.r., but most likely morning Relevant what woke him up? n.r., but say naturally.
Relevant where he woke up? in his own bed Was him a soldier? A patient? No to both. Relevant his profession? Yope, leaning to yessish.

Did the dream/nightmare directly had an effect on him? yesthe sweat? no Or maybe the fact that he was awaken and then he was tired at job? Or again was the fact that he fall asleep that produced effects (negative?positive?) on him? Could you rephrase? If you mean, did he fall asleep at work, or was he inefficient at work because of his dream, no. But beware FA.

Relevant that it was half the day and not the entire day? Noish, justt that the effects wore off gradually.Or do you mean that the effects did not continue the next night/day? as before Was it a recurrent situation? In Joe's case, yes, but n.r. Did he suffer from some disease? No Is his personal life relevant? /Aside from professional? No.Sonnambulism relevant? No Did he do some relevant action a part from sleeping while he was dreaming?Before?After? No
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Postby Solong » Mon Jun 12, 2017 3:22 pm

I'm going to go for the absolute moonshot WAG here and say that the answer to this is the answer to the Not Yiddish thread and that you and biograd are actually flirting..... I'm not sure where biograd is heading with that puzzle. Probably not. Hint: no computers are involved in this puzzle., or at least not necessary to it.
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Postby Earnest » Mon Jun 12, 2017 3:44 pm

Relevant what the dream was about?About his personal life?Someone who died?His wife?Can we qualify it as a nightmare because something wrong happened to him?To others?Is his primary feeling during the dream fear?Shame?Anger?Incapability of doing something?Frustration? Is a certain figure/object recurrent in his dreams?
was he sleeping alone?With his wife?With others?Relevant?

Is it relevant when the "effects" started? Right after the dream? After hours/minutes?Was he able to sleep again after the nightmare? Effects: just mental or also physical?
Were the effects caused by: something he saw? Someone he saw? Something he smelled? Something he heard? Something he touched?
Did the effects mainly affect his job?His personal life during the half day?His mood?

clung to him for half the day: do you mean that the dream had negative effect on him for half a day?Positive effects?That he recurrently recall what he saw in the dream? Could we assume that he remembered the dream? Or was him unconsciously conditioned by the dream?

His profession: did he work in an office? Mainly outside? Inside? In a bank? An institution? Was him a doctor? Did he provide services? Goods? Was his job more "intellectual" than "physical"?

Electronic other than computers relevant?
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Postby Solong » Tue Jun 13, 2017 4:44 pm

Relevant what the dream was about? Yes About his personal life? Yessish Someone who died?His wife? No to both.Can we qualify it as a nightmare because something wrong happened to him? This To others?Is his primary feeling during the dream fear?Shame?Anger?Incapability of doing something? this Frustration? this probably even more so Is a certain figure/object yes, or objects. recurrent in his dreams?
was he sleeping alone?With his wife?With others?Relevant? n.r.

Is it relevant when the "effects" started? Right after the dream? This, gradually wearing off later. After hours/minutes?Was he able to sleep again after the nightmare? Possibly, but n.r. Effects: just mental or also physical? Mostly mental, but physical to some degree also.
Were the effects caused by: something he saw? Someone he saw? Something he smelled? Something he heard? Something he touched?
Did the effects mainly affect his job? No His personal life during the half day? Yope His mood? Yes

clung to him for half the day: do you mean that the dream had negative effect on him for half a day? Positive effects? Negative That he recurrently recall what he saw in the dream? Could we assume that he remembered the dream? Yes to both. Or was him unconsciously conditioned by the dream?

His profession: did he work in an office? Mainly outside? Inside? In a bank? An institution? Was him a doctor? Did he provide services? Goods? Was his job more "intellectual" than "physical"? He was a 'blue collar' worker. However, the others named could have a similar dream, if not exactly the same

Electronic other than computers relevant? No. Technology is involved, but not the main component of the nightmare.


Let me be the first to welcome you, Ernest, if I am the first. If not let me be the second, or whatever!
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Postby Earnest » Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:32 pm

Let me be the first to welcome you, Ernest, if I am the first. If not let me be the second, or whatever! Many thanks Solong!!!

so, did something relevant in his life happen the half day after the nightmare (for instance he got married)?
Is the object in the dream related with his profession? Or with his personal life? Such as a ring? In the dream, wasn't he able to do an every day action? An action that he does every day?That common people (us for instance) do every day?To say something?to speak with someone?To reach something?To reach someone?Did the dream take place in his house?A particular room of his house? kitchen,bedroom,bathroom?place of work?Relevant?Did the dream involve just him?Others? His family?Wife?Children?

Was he stressed? For a specific situation? Did he suffer from relevant diseases? Other physical immediate effects rather than sweat? During the half day: was he relevantly upset? sad?tense?Did he continue to be sweat?tachycardia relevant?Did his hands relevantly shake for the stress? Did he do something wrong at work?
Was he living a deja-vu the half day after the dream?So he began to panic? Did he try to do the thing he wasn't able to do in the dream the half day after the nightmare? to see if he was able to do it in real life?Relevant?

Sorry but I need to ask...is Freddy Krueger involved?
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Postby Solong » Wed Jun 14, 2017 9:39 pm

so, did something relevant in his life happen the half day after the nightmare (for instance he got married)? No, it was just that the dream took that long to wear off.
Is the object in the dream related with his profession? Or former profession, yesOr with his personal life? Such as a ring? No and no. In the dream, wasn't he able to do an every day action? An action that he does every day?...or did That common people (us for instance) do every day? It would depend on the kind of work we do; perhapsnot the same thing but similar.To say something?to speak with someone?To reach something?To reach someone? None of these relevant. Did the dream take place in his house? No. A particular room of his house? kitchen,bedroom,bathroom?place of work?Relevant? Relevant it was not at home.Did the dream involve just him?Others? His family?Wife?Children? Others involved, but not family.

Was he stressed? Yes! For a specific situation? Yes Did he suffer from relevant diseases? Other physical immediate effects rather than sweat? No to both. During the half day: was he relevantly upset? sad?tense?Did he continue to be sweat?tachycardia relevant?Did his hands relevantly shake for the stress? No or noish Mainly just tired & cranky from lack of sleep. Did he do something wrong at work? Do you mean IRL (in real life): No, n.r.
Was he living a deja-vu the half day after the dream? No.So he began to panic? Did he try to do the thing he wasn't able to do in the dream the half day after the nightmare? to see if he was able to do it in real life?Relevant? All no or n.r.

Sorry but I need to ask...is Freddy Krueger involved? No, not a scary nightmare.

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Postby Earnest » Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:28 am

Stressed for: job? did he have a new job? If so, did he like his new job? stressed for family? wife? children? lack of money? lack of time? incapability to: perform well at work? do something? Is so, was he unable because: it was physically impossible at that stage to do that something (I mean, it belonged to the past and so he was unable to do it) He did not have the competences to do it?The capacity to do it at all/to do it properly? It was physically impossible? He needed to convince someone else that did not want to support him/indulge him? was he obsessed about something? contrite not to have done something? Was he fired from his previous job?Because of the action he was incapable to do? Was his former profession related to the job he was doing now? Or was it more physical or more mental as a job?Sport related?Bank/finance related? Food/drink related? Others?

is the dream related to this stressful situation?For instance he was trying to do the thing that he was incapable do do in reality.
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Postby Solong » Thu Jun 15, 2017 9:39 pm

Stressed for: job? Yope/noish did he have a new job? If so, did he like his new job? stressed for family? wife? children? lack of money? lack of time? incapability to: perform well at work? do something? No or n.r. to all; possible FA. Is so, was he unable because: it was physically impossible at that stage to do that something (I mean, it belonged to the past and so he was unable to do it) Yes, that is the general idea.He did not have the competences to do it?The capacity to do it at all/to do it properly? It was physically impossible? He needed to convince someone else that did not want to support him/indulge him? was he obsessed about something? contrite not to have done something? Was he fired from his previous job?Because of the action he was incapable to do? All no or n.r. Was his former profession related to the job he was doing now? No; FA. Figure out what the FA is & you will be close to solving.Or was it more physical or more mental as a job? PhysicalSport related?Bank/finance related? Food/drink related? None of these. Others? n.r.

is the dream related to this stressful situation? Yes.For instance he was trying to do the thing that he was incapable do do in reality.He was able to do it in reality, but not in the dream.
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Postby SurfingPikachu » Fri Jun 16, 2017 12:50 am

Did he dream he was back at his former profession? Relive an activity or event associated with it? If so, did that use to invoke the same negative feelings in real life, or only in the dream?

Any of the following relevant: that he was unable to read in the dream, or checks the time but the time keeps changing, or other common dream quirks?
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Postby Earnest » Fri Jun 16, 2017 7:52 am

Could the former be considered a "profession"? Or was him for instance a student? Did he have a job before the one he actually have? Is the general idea that in the dream he remains unemployed? Did he like his actual job? Did he actually have a job?Was him unemployed? Did he have the opportunity to choose between two jobs in the past?

Well...to b sure...Joe= H/A/M?

He was able to do it in reality, but not in the dream --> did he want to do it in reality? Is a choice involved? Cleaning up something? Is an exam involved? A test? Writing? listening? Speaking? Reading?
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Postby Solong » Fri Jun 16, 2017 11:59 pm

Did he dream he was back at his former profession? Yes! Relive an activity yes or event associated with it? If so, did that use to invoke the same negative feelings in real life, or only in the dream? The negative feelings were in the dream.; that's what made it a nightmare.

Any of the following relevant: that he was unable to read in the dream, oh, I've had that kind of dream! or checks the time but the time keeps changing, or other common dream quirks? but none of these.
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Postby Solong » Sat Jun 17, 2017 12:07 am

Could the former be considered a "profession"? Most people would call it just a job, I suppose.Or was him for instance a student? No Did he have a job before the one he actually have? Is the general idea that in the dream he remains unemployed? Did he like his actual job? Did he actually have a job?Was him unemployed? Did he have the opportunity to choose between two jobs in the past? See my answer to Surfing, above. He is not currently working at the job in question. In fact, he is retired. He liked the job in question when he was working at it, most of the time.

Well...to b sure...Joe= H/A/M? Yes. Always wise to ask. :-)

He was able to do it in reality, but not in the dream --> did he want to do it in reality? Is a choice involved? Yes, he did it in reality, by choice.Cleaning up something? Could have involved this, maybe. Is an exam involved? A test? Writing? listening? Speaking? Reading? no or n.r. to all.

Very close to being solved. All it needs is to put the pieces together.
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Postby SurfingPikachu » Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:56 am

Ok, have I got the summary right?

Joe, currently retired (this is hinted as important?), dreamt about being back at his former job (blue collar but unimportant?), doing a common-ish action he regularly did successfully in real life, but was unable to in the dream, and that made him frustrated. Certain objects involved, unknown if important? Technology involved, but not the focus?

(Personally, I could think of 1001 answers that could fit this summary, and I'm not sure what direction I'm supposed to explore... :? )

I do find the opening post phrased oddly given what we now know. Would the puzzle work if you did not include the sentence "But the effects of it clung to him for half the day."?
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Postby Earnest » Sat Jun 17, 2017 7:46 am

Did he want to retire? Did he need to retire because his job was mostly physical and he was no more able to lift weights? make specific efforts? In his former job did he have to fix something? Technology? Did he have to build up something?

Relevant from how many time he is retired? Was he old...I mean...pensioner age?

He was able to do it in reality, but not in the dream --> I mean...he cannot come back...so this action is referred to something different from retirement right? So are those actions relevant or it is sufficient to say that in the dream he was not able to perform them while in reality he was? Was he happy in reality a part from the dream? Did he perform those kind of action related to his job because he wanted to? He needed to? Are those common actions? Like he fixes something in his house? wasn't he able to use an object that is common in his past job?Spanner?Wrench? Wa the dream "metaphoric": something like in his previous job he wore something that did not fit him anymore in the dream?
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Postby Solong » Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:39 pm

Ok, have I got the summary right?

Joe, currently retired (this is hinted as important?), dreamt about being back at his former job (blue collar but unimportant?), doing a common-ish action he regularly did successfully in real life, but was unable to in the dream, and that made him frustrated. Certain objects involved, unknown if important? Technology involved, but not the focus? Yes, you basically have the

**********************************SPOILER****************************************
Joe was a heavy equipment (backhoe) operator until he retired. He has a recurring dream (not often, thankfully) in which he is back at work, and has the kind of day, all night, in which everything goes wrong. He wakes up, feeling as tired as if he had worked all night, because he had! The last time he had this nightmare, he woke up in the middle of the night, which he considered a good sign, because it meant he was only working part-time!

Of course, it could have been any kind of job, blue-collar or white, and he would have woken up tired, so the details are not that important.

The puzzle's title comes from The Nightmare Song in Gilbert & Sullivan's 'Iolanthe', which starts
When you're lying awake with a dismal headache, and repose is taboo'd by anxiety,
I conceive you may use any language you choose to indulge in, without impropriety.
and ends
But the night has been long, ditto ditto my song,
And thank goodness they're both of 'em o-ver!

Good job, Earnest!

(Personally, I could think of 1001 answers that could fit this summary, and I'm not sure what direction I'm supposed to explore... :? )

I do find the opening post phrased oddly given what we now know. Would the puzzle work if you did not include the sentence "But the effects of it clung to him for half the day."?

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Postby Earnest » Sun Jun 18, 2017 1:06 pm

Good job, Earnest! Many thanks to you! Very nice puzzle!
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Postby Solong » Sun Jun 18, 2017 11:10 pm

I do find the opening post phrased oddly given what we now know. Would the puzzle work if you did not include the sentence "But the effects of it clung to him for half the day."? Sure. I just took pity on Joe by not keeping him tired thee entire day!
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