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[IrishElk] Clear and Present Danger

Postby irishelk » Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:50 pm

Not sure why all my titles are on a political thriller/guys talking in suits kick lately. Nothing governmental in this one, I promise. :mrgreen: Possible quickie.


She was delighted. He was probably just trying not to get shot.
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Re: [IrishElk] Clear and Present Danger

Postby GalFisk » Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:49 pm

She: H? A? F?
He: H? A? M?
Shot: by firearm(s)? Bow(s)? Pneumatic weapon(s)? Cannon(s)? Nerf? Water? Vegetables or fruit?
Potentially killed? Hurt? Embarrassed? Was he trying not to get hit by shots fired? To keep shots from being fired?
Delighted: amused? Laughing? Satisfied? Happy? Excited?
Was she delighted by what he did in order not to get shot? Did she understand that he was trying not to get shot? Was it possible that he could get shot by her?
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Re: [IrishElk] Clear and Present Danger

Postby Earnest » Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:20 pm

Nothing governmental in this one...well thaaaaanks :)))

is the whole situation intended? like in a show? is she delighted because he was trying not to get shot? if so, is it part of a game?is so, is the goal to shoot him directly or to shoot to something?is so, would that something make him fall? were they related? boyfriend and girlfriend? is the place relevant? did he risk to get wet? to die? was someone shooting? She?

Did she risk to get shot as well? did someone else also risk to get shot before him? is it a usual situation for the place were it was carried out? I mean...would it be strange to see him while trying not to get shot in the street? In a public building?
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Re: [IrishElk] Clear and Present Danger

Postby Balin » Wed Jun 28, 2017 8:48 pm

To pull out a classic LTP question...
Shot with a camera?
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Re: [IrishElk] Clear and Present Danger

Postby irishelk » Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:15 pm

GalFisk

She: H? A? F?
He: H? A? M? Yes to all.
Shot: by firearm(s)? Yes.Bow(s)? Possibly.Pneumatic weapon(s)? Cannon(s)? Nerf? Water? Vegetables or fruit? No to rest.
Potentially killed? Yes. Hurt? Yes. Embarrassed? No. Was he trying not to get hit by shots fired? Yes. To keep shots from being fired? No.
Delighted: amused? Laughing? Satisfied? Mostly this... Happy? And this. Excited?
Was she delighted by what he did in order not to get shot? Yes. Did she understand that he was trying not to get shot? Probably, irr. Was it possible that he could get shot by her? No.


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Nothing governmental in this one...well thaaaaanks :))) My pleasure ^^.

is the whole situation intended? like in a show? No. is she delighted because he was trying not to get shot? No. if so, is it part of a game? But yope, and explore. is so, is the goal to shoot him directly or to shoot to something?is so, would that something make him fall? No to rest. were they related? No. boyfriend and girlfriend? No. is the place relevant? Yes. did he risk to get wet? to die? Yesish. was someone shooting? Yes. She? No.

Did she risk to get shot as well? No. did someone else also risk to get shot before him? Irr, possibly. is it a usual situation for the place were it was carried out? Yesish. I mean...would it be strange to see him while trying not to get shot in the street? Yes. In a public building? Yes.


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To pull out a classic LTP question...
Shot with a camera? No, but that's a great one.
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Re: [IrishElk] Clear and Present Danger

Postby Earnest » Thu Jun 29, 2017 8:22 am

was him a prisoner? did he want to participate the game? Was him forced?...place relevant...a shooting gallery?A place where shooting is considered a normal activity? A circus? is russian roulette relevant? Was him shot in order to be injured?Killed? Or just for fun to the feet for instance or in non vital parts of his body? Relevant who was shooting? If so, did he directly participate to the game too?Was him distant to the man who was shot? Or was him near to him? Did the game concept just in shooting to him? Or was there a reason behind? Was the whole situation a bet? And the woman won? If so, did the woman won because of the things the man did to avoid to get shot? Was the man effectively shot? Or that someone just "point" the weapon at him to frighten him? If not did he get injured at the end? Did he die?

Was the gun directly involved in the game? I mean....was it a retelling of a classical game like poker? A game involving gambling, cards or something like that and he lost? Was she happy because she won?
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Re: [IrishElk] Clear and Present Danger

Postby irishelk » Sat Jul 01, 2017 3:29 pm

Earnest

was him a prisoner? No. did he want to participate the game? No. Was him forced?... No.
place relevant...a shooting gallery? No. A place where shooting is considered a normal activity? Yesish. A circus? No. is russian roulette relevant? No.
Was him shot in order to be injured? No and FA. Killed? No. Or just for fun to the feet for instance or in non vital parts of his body? No. Relevant who was shooting? Yesish. If so, did he directly participate to the game too? No. Was him distant to the man who was shot? FA, but possibly. Or was him near to him? Possibly. Did the game concept just in shooting to him? No. Or was there a reason behind? Was there a reason for the game? Yope.
Was the whole situation a bet? No. And the woman won? If so, did the woman won because of the things the man did to avoid to get shot? Not a bet, but yesish. Was the man effectively shot? No. Or that someone just "point" the weapon at him to frighten him? No. If not did he get injured at the end? No. Did he die? No.

Was the gun directly involved in the game? No. I mean....was it a retelling of a classical game like poker? No. A game involving gambling, cards or something like that and he lost? No. Was she happy because she won? Yes.
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Re: [IrishElk] Clear and Present Danger

Postby Earnest » Sat Jul 01, 2017 5:09 pm

To be sure...did he partecipate the game? Did he loose? Or was him part of the game?

Were them friends? Was him convinced by someone to participate? Was him convinced by something? Did he like her? Did he consciously participate the game? Didn't he want to participate the game because he knew he would probably have lose?Did he participate at the end because he hoped to win something? Would the one who wins the game receive money? A prize in general? Something else? Did he risk to get shot because he lost the game? had the woman lost, would she have risk to get shot? Was him shot at the end? Did the one who treated him to get shot, want to shoot him? If not, did the woman know that at the end he wouldn't have been shot? Is the gun/weapon with which he risked to get shot a real weapon? A toy?

Are time and place relevant? Modern times? WWI?WWII?After?Wild west?Before?

Is electronic involved? Video games? Wii? Is the someone who was shooting a real person? Relevant?

Reason for the game: win something that was raffled? Decide something? Test ability? Was it an experiment? To demonstrate something? Relevant who proposed the game? Was something criminal going on? Was the game intended to distract him? Did she win honestly? Does the game involve cards?patience? Precision? magic? Animal?A race?Cars?Moto?A Ball?A small one? A big one? Polo? chess? is it a game usually done on a table?archercy? Tennis? Volley? Sort of shooting gallery and he needed to recover something entering the gallery?
Were them professionals? Athletes? Was it an official competition?
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Re: [IrishElk] Clear and Present Danger

Postby irishelk » Sun Jul 02, 2017 1:26 pm

Earnest

To be sure...did he partecipate the game? No. Did he loose? Or was him part of the game? Noish.

Were them friends? No. Was him convinced by someone to participate? Was him convinced by something? See above. Did he like her? No/irr. Did he consciously participate the game? No. Didn't he want to participate the game because he knew he would probably have lose? No/NA. Did he participate at the end because he hoped to win something? No.
Would the one who wins the game receive money? A prize in general? Something else? Irr. Did he risk to get shot because he lost the game? No. had the woman lost, would she have risk to get shot? No. Was him shot at the end? No. Did the one who treated him to get shot, want to shoot him? No. If not, did the woman know that at the end he wouldn't have been shot? Not necessarily. Is the gun/weapon with which he risked to get shot a real weapon? Yes. A toy?

Are time and place relevant? Modern times? Assume this. WWI?WWII?After?Wild west?Before? I took to Google for this one--any time after the 1960s would do.

Is electronic involved? No. Video games? Wii? Is the someone who was shooting a real person? Yes. Relevant? Whether it's a real person or not? Yes, I'd say that's relevant ;) .

Reason for the game: win something that was raffled? Decide something? Test ability? Was it an experiment? To demonstrate something? Relevant who proposed the game? Was something criminal going on? Was the game intended to distract him? No to all.
Did she win honestly? Yes. Does the game involve cards? patience? Yes, definitely. Precision? magic? Animal?A race? Cars? Not intrinsic to the game, but there is usually a car involved. Moto?A Ball?A small one? A big one? Polo? chess? is it a game usually done on a table?archercy? Tennis? Volley? Sort of shooting gallery and he needed to recover something entering the gallery?
Were them professionals? Athletes? Was it an official competition? No to rest.
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Re: [IrishElk] Clear and Present Danger

Postby Earnest » Mon Jul 03, 2017 8:51 am

Is it a table game?An electronic game? Cluedo? Does it involve dices? Is the aim of the game to place first?Is the game mostly played indoors?Outdoors? Is the individuation of the game relevant? Monopoly for instance? Is the car a real one or a model? Was the one who was shooting participate the game?Did he had the intention of shooting? Had he shot would he have killed someone? Did he loose? Are other people relevant? Can the game be played alone? Or other participants are necessary?

Is the one who risked to get shot a simple pedestrian? Did he participate a previous game? Did he see the woman playing? Is him the only one who risked to get shot? Also others? was him entertained by this or not? Did he know that the woman won? If so was him pleased? Did he want the woman to win? To loose? Was the woman the chief? Relevant where the game was played? Outdoors?Indoors? Haunting relevant?

The game doesn't involve weapons directly...so there is a reason why one of them at least was armed? Were all of them armed? Also the one who risked to get shot? If so was him treated to get shot? Did he treat the other as well? Did he risk to get shot because he was accused of something? Of having distracted someone? Was him accused by the one who lost the game with the woman?
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Re: [IrishElk] Clear and Present Danger

Postby SurfingPikachu » Mon Jul 03, 2017 2:28 pm

Did he shoot someone? Was he trying to? Supposed to?

Was he shot at? Was he shot? If yes to either, was someone knowingly shooting at him or shooting him? Or unknowingly? Or accidentally?

Did he dodge or take cover, or try to? Did a shot miss him?
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Re: [IrishElk] Clear and Present Danger

Postby irishelk » Tue Jul 04, 2017 6:49 pm

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Is it a table game?An electronic game? Cluedo? Does it involve dices? No to all. Is the aim of the game to place first? Yes. Is the game mostly played indoors?Outdoors? This. Is the individuation of the game relevant? You mean what the game is specifically? Yes. Monopoly for instance? No. Is the car a real one or a model? Real. Was the one who was shooting participate the game? No, very slight FA. Did he had the intention of shooting? Yesish. Had he shot would he have killed someone? Probably not. Did he loose? Did the person shooting lose the game, you mean? No. Are other people relevant? Indirectly. Can the game be played alone? Yes, but... Or other participants are necessary? I was imagining other participants in this case.

Is the one who risked to get shot a simple pedestrian? Yope. Did he participate a previous game? No. Did he see the woman playing? Not relevantly. Is him the only one who risked to get shot? Not necessarily. Also others? Possibly. was him entertained by this or not? No. Did he know that the woman won? No. If so was him pleased? Did he want the woman to win? No. To loose? No. Was the woman the chief? No. Relevant where the game was played? Yes. Outdoors? Thisish. Indoors? Haunting relevant? No.

The game doesn't involve weapons directly...so there is a reason why one of them at least was armed? Yes, possible FA. Were all of them armed? No. Also the one who risked to get shot? Irr, but assume no. If so was him treated to get shot? Did he treat the other as well? Not sure that you mean. Did he risk to get shot because he was accused of something? No. Of having distracted someone? Was him accused by the one who lost the game with the woman?


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Did he shoot someone? No. Was he trying to? No. Supposed to? No.

Was he shot at? Not relevantly. Was he shot? No. If yes to either, was someone knowingly shooting at him or shooting him? Or unknowingly? Or accidentally? If he were shot at, it would be unknowing and accidental.

Did he dodge or take cover, or try to? No. Did a shot miss him? Possibly, not relevantly.
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Re: [IrishElk] Clear and Present Danger

Postby Earnest » Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:41 am

Is it part of olympic games? If so may I invoke the list of olympic games? Does the game involve launching something? Taking aim (not sure of the translation)? Coordination?Concentration? Constructing something? Gymnastic?Bicycles? Water?Physical preparation? Luck? Mental effort? Is it present a single car? More cars? Is the car necessary for playing the game?Is it a race car? Or is it like an ambulance/police? Is the car a prize? Does the car move while the game is played? Do the participant need to be on the car during the game? After? Is the game commonly played in teams? Alone?Was the game played in a TV show?


Was man A (the one with the gun) a sort of coordinator of the game? Was the shot necessary to make the game begin? End? Was him an old man? With particular physical conditions? Relevant? Does the gun belong to him? Did he aim to the crowd generically? Was the weapon he used somehow modified to shot something else rather than real bullets? Was the gesture of aiming to the crowd somehow symbolic? Was it a prank? Was him forced to do it?

Could anyone participate the game in the circumstances of the puzzle?
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Re: [IrishElk] Clear and Present Danger

Postby SurfingPikachu » Wed Jul 05, 2017 1:23 pm

Is hunting relevant? It seems to fit almost perfectly, except for the 1960s part.
If so, is a specific type of hunting relevant? A specific type of hunting gear? Hunter orange?
Was he trying not to get shot by wearing hunter orange, or because he was not wearing hunter orange?
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Re: [IrishElk] Clear and Present Danger

Postby irishelk » Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:02 pm

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Is it part of olympic games? No. If so may I invoke the list of olympic games?
Does the game involve launching something? Taking aim (not sure of the translation)? Coordination?Concentration? A bit. Constructing something? Gymnastic?Bicycles? Water?Physical preparation? Luck? Yes. Mental effort? Some, but not too much. No to rest.
Is it present a single car? Yes. More cars? Possibly, irr. Is the car necessary for playing the game? No. Is it a race car? No. Or is it like an ambulance/police? No. Is the car a prize? No. Does the car move while the game is played? Yes. Do the participant need to be on the car during the game? In this case the players are in the car, yes. After? Is the game commonly played in teams? It could be. Alone? It could be. Was the game played in a TV show? No.


Was man A (the one with the gun) a sort of coordinator of the game? No, and very slight FA. Was the shot necessary to make the game begin? End? No. Was him an old man? Irr. With particular physical conditions? Relevant? Does the gun belong to him? Irr. Did he aim to the crowd generically? No and FA. Was the weapon he used somehow modified to shot something else rather than real bullets? No. Was the gesture of aiming to the crowd somehow symbolic? FA. Was it a prank? Was him forced to do it?

Could anyone participate the game in the circumstances of the puzzle? Anyone physically present where it's taking place, sure.



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Is hunting relevant? Yes! It seems to fit almost perfectly, except for the 1960s part. That was when we began mass manufacturing and commonly using....
If so, is a specific type of hunting relevant? A specific type of hunting gear? Hunter orange? This!
Was he trying not to get shot by wearing hunter orange, Yes. or because he was not wearing hunter orange? No.
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Re: [IrishElk] Clear and Present Danger

Postby GalFisk » Wed Jul 05, 2017 8:11 pm

Was she delighted that he wore hunter orange? Was it her favorite color? Was he especially visible in this color? Did she mistake him for someone else? For emergency personnel?
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Re: [IrishElk] Clear and Present Danger

Postby SurfingPikachu » Thu Jul 06, 2017 1:23 am

Did she see him? Did she recognize him as a hunter? Did she mistake him for an animal anyway? Was she delighted because she thought she saw a rare or special orange animal?
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Re: [IrishElk] Clear and Present Danger

Postby irishelk » Sat Jul 08, 2017 12:30 pm

GalFisk

Was she delighted that he wore hunter orange? Yesish. Was it her favorite color? No/irr. Was he especially visible in this color? Not relevantly to her. Did she mistake him for someone else? No. For emergency personnel?


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Did she see him? Yes. Did she recognize him as a hunter? Irr. Did she mistake him for an animal anyway? No. Was she delighted because she thought she saw a rare or special orange animal? No.
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Re: [IrishElk] Clear and Present Danger

Postby Earnest » Sat Jul 08, 2017 1:28 pm

well I am a bit confused...hunting is not a game "per se" right? And you told me that the gun was not directly involved in the game...and moreover you answered me no when I asked you about haunting: Haunting relevant? No. (see above)...sorry but I am really confused...Have I asked something wrong? In a wrong way?


So situation: the man who was trying not to get shot is an haunter. The lady was playing a game which does not involve directly neither the car nor the gun but she was on the car. Right? I am imagining something like a jeep with a cargo bed, maybe a safari one?
So the game was not about shooting the highest number of animals possible, right? If not, is the game mainly played in forests? In places where usually haunters go?
Is it birdwatching?...well maybe not a good hobby to practice in the nearby of an haunting zone..however maybe it could be the case that she was a photographer or a birdwatcher and was with her guide. She saw a very rare bird thanks to the act that the haunter was trying not to get shot 8otherwise the haunter would have shot the bird)
Is it a sport which mostly involves mountains? Animals? Is it relevant which animals were haunted? Was the one who tried not to get shot on a car as well? The same as the car where the woman and the one who had the gun were? Another one? Or was him walking? If so in the forest?
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Re: [IrishElk] Clear and Present Danger

Postby SurfingPikachu » Sat Jul 08, 2017 3:51 pm

Would she be delighted if he wore a different colour? Such as neon yellow/green?
Would she be delighted if she did not see him?
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Re: [IrishElk] Clear and Present Danger

Postby irishelk » Sun Jul 09, 2017 8:12 pm

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well I am a bit confused...hunting is not a game "per se" right? Correct, I would say it's not a game at all.
And you told me that the gun was not directly involved in the game... Correct.
and moreover you answered me no when I asked you about haunting: Haunting relevant? No. (see above)...sorry but I am really confused...Have I asked something wrong? In a wrong way? I think this might be a language barrier, I apologize if I made things more confusing. "Haunting" is when a ghost scares people. "Hunting" is shooting animals in the woods. I should have realized what you were asking.



So situation: the man who was trying not to get shot is an hunter. The lady was playing a game which does not involve directly neither the car nor the gun but she was on the car. Right? Correct. The game may be associated with cars but does not require cars. I am imagining something like a jeep with a cargo bed, maybe a safari one? Car model irr.
So the game was not about shooting the highest number of animals possible, right? Right. If not, is the game mainly played in forests? No. In places where usually hunters go? Not particularly.
Is it birdwatching?...No. well maybe not a good hobby to practice in the nearby of an haunting zone..however maybe it could be the case that she was a photographer or a birdwatcher and was with her guide. She saw a very rare bird thanks to the act that the haunter was trying not to get shot 8otherwise the haunter would have shot the bird) No, but good idea.
Is it a sport which mostly involves mountains? No. Animals? No (except humans--I'm not going to go through that issue again :lol: ). Is it relevant which animals were haunted? No. Was the one who tried not to get shot on a car as well? No--good question. The same as the car where the woman and the one who had the gun were? No, and FA. Another one? Or was him walking? This. If so in the forest? Yesish.


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Would she be delighted if he wore a different colour? No. Such as neon yellow/green?
Would she be delighted if she did not see him? No.
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Re: [IrishElk] Clear and Present Danger

Postby Earnest » Mon Jul 10, 2017 5:55 am

Ok no problem IrishElk! Thanks for clarifications!
And sorry for my mistakes :(

To be sure again...no displays involved and no electronic involved right?
So...the car was moving right? Is it important how it moves? Slowly? Fast? Is it possible to play the game in a fast moving car? Is it a game involving paper? Is it necessary to use pen and/or paper to play the game?

Were the lady walking, would it be possible for her to play the game? Was the car a cabriolet? Relevant? The game involves patience...so patience in putting something in equilibrium? In finding a solution to a problem? Like a puzzle? Is it involved asking questions in the game? Finding something? From the car? Like mushrooms?

Was the gun part of the car equipment? Part of the celebrations for her victory? Was it usual to find hunters in the surroundings? Is it relevant where the car went? I mean...the whole game took place on a car that went through a forest?
Or also in other places? Was there a crowd surrounding the car? Was the lady a famous person? Does the game involve something external to the car? Is it mostly about talking to each other? Constructing something?
Relevant when the scene took place? Or any period after 1960 is fine? The place? England? Europe? Usa?

Was the one who try to avoid to get shot not an hunter, would the puzzle still work? Was the lady driving the car or was she a passenger? Were her opponents in the same car as she or in other cars? Or weren't in cars at all? Is it an online game? Was the one wirh the gun in the car with the lady? Was him try to make space in order to allow the car to pass through the forest? Was the game organized?
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Re: [IrishElk] Clear and Present Danger

Postby SurfingPikachu » Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:01 pm

Now *I* am confused, because presumably the "game? yope" referred to hunting, which both IrishElk and Earnest agree is not really a game, and yet you both continue querying and asking about games?! Is another game, apart from hunting, involved?!

Was the woman in the same general area (woods? plains? safari? relevant?) as the hunter? Or was she watching him from a plane or through a TV?
Was the woman doing something related to hunting? Related to this mysterious non-hunting game?
Did the woman really win something or are you just going along with Earnest's words? If she did, she presumably won against other people that were not the hunter?
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Re: [IrishElk] Clear and Present Danger

Postby trebor » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:59 am

Are the man and woman involved here a couple? Relevant? Is a misunderstanding involved?

The non-hunting game: is it a game that requires anything physical aside from the people playing it? (As opposed to a game like I Spy or Simon Says?) If so, is the game played with a ball? A board? Dice? Do you have to reach a certain number of points to win it? Or is it simply that whoever has the most when the game ends wins? Does the colour orange have anything to do with the game?
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Re: [IrishElk] Clear and Present Danger

Postby irishelk » Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:48 pm

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Ok no problem IrishElk! Thanks for clarifications!
And sorry for my mistakes No worries! Believe me, you write in English much better than I could write in Italian. :mrgreen:

To be sure again...no displays involved and no electronic involved right? Right.
So...the car was moving right? The way I imagined the scenario, yes, but actually irr. Is it important how it moves? No. Slowly? Fast? Is it possible to play the game in a fast moving car? It would be more difficult. Is it a game involving paper? Is it necessary to use pen and/or paper to play the game? No.

Were the lady walking, would it be possible for her to play the game? Yes. Was the car a cabriolet? Relevant? Irr. The game involves patience...so patience in putting something in equilibrium? In finding a solution to a problem? Like a puzzle? Is it involved asking questions in the game? No to these. Finding something? Yesish. From the car? Yes. Like mushrooms? Not this.

Was the gun part of the car equipment? No. Part of the celebrations for her victory? No. Was it usual to find hunters in the surroundings? Yes indeed. Is it relevant where the car went? No. I mean...the whole game took place on a car that went through a forest? Yesish, surroundings not super relevant.
Or also in other places? Quite possibly. Was there a crowd surrounding the car? No. Was the lady a famous person? No. Does the game involve something external to the car? Yes. Is it mostly about talking to each other? No. Constructing something? No.
Relevant when the scene took place? No. Or any period after 1960 is fine? The place? England? Europe? Usa? Anywhere that hunters wear orange.

Was the one who try to avoid to get shot not an hunter, would the puzzle still work? Possibly, depends on how he was avoiding getting shot. Was the lady driving the car or was she a passenger? Irr, let's say passenger. Were her opponents in the same car as she or in other cars? Same car. Or weren't in cars at all? Is it an online game? No. Was the one wirh the gun in the car with the lady? No. Was him try to make space in order to allow the car to pass through the forest? No. Was the game organized? Yesish, it doesn't take much organization.


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Now *I* am confused, because presumably the "game? yope" referred to hunting, No. which both IrishElk and Earnest agree is not really a game, and yet you both continue querying and asking about games?! Is another game, apart from hunting, involved?! Yes.
Is hunting a game? I've never thought of it as such, but I guess if it's competitive...


Was the woman in the same general area (woods? plains? safari? relevant?) as the hunter? Yes. Or was she watching him from a plane or through a TV? No.
Was the woman doing something related to hunting? No, but with a tiny ish. Related to this mysterious non-hunting game? Yes =).
Did the woman really win something or are you just going along with Earnest's words? Yes, she won the game. If she did, she presumably won against other people that were not the hunter? Correct.


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Are the man and woman involved here a couple? No. Relevant? No, it would just be very unlikely. Is a misunderstanding involved? No.

The non-hunting game: is it a game that requires anything physical aside from the people playing it? No. (As opposed to a game like I Spy or Simon Says?) Very much like these. If so, is the game played with a ball? A board? Dice? Do you have to reach a certain number of points to win it? Not exactly. Or is it simply that whoever has the most when the game ends wins? No. Does the colour orange have anything to do with the game? YES.
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Re: [IrishElk] Clear and Present Danger

Postby SurfingPikachu » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:31 pm

Was it a game to see who can spot something? Some types of things? Hunters wearing orange? Simply orange objects? Did everyone choose or get assigned a different colour?
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Re: [IrishElk] Clear and Present Danger

Postby Earnest » Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:10 pm

non-hunting game = finding the more possible of something? Localise someone?Are hunters part of the game? Or would it be any person with an orange clothing? Is the color orange involved in that it highlights the things/people that should be found from the car? Are the participants blindfolded? Can they do everything that want, considering that they are into a car, or is there something that prevent them to do some movement/something? Is the game somehow funny? Is the aim not to make kill animals by hunters? To make noise? Is making noise involved? Are participants supposed to do an action all together? One per time? Is the relevant action to make a certain noise? Were hunters in the surroundings hidden? Were they hunting birds/other animals? Relevant? Were the hunters grouped in the same placed or "scattered" in the forest? Were the lady and the other participants able to see all of them? Just some? Did they recognize them because of their orange clothes? Did they want to find/meet them?

So...if the lady had won, there is some criterion to establish if one had won or lost right? I mean it cannot be a game like "guess the number of hunters" "guess something" ....right? Is the criterion verifiable with certainty? Are there other people/items with the same orange color? The game involves patience right? Patience to locales something/someone? To wait for something to happen? Like someone to move? To position something in the right place?


Does the game involve something external to the car? Yes. ----> hunters? items? something that could be seen from the car? That could be touched from the car?

He was probably just trying not to get shot.--> to recap...does it mean that someone is threatening him with a weapon (a gun) ? Are there more than 3 people involved right? I mean the 3 that are sure are the hunter, the lady and the one who was shooting to the hunter, right? Or the one who was shooting to the hunter was the lady? Did someone inside the car have the gun? Or the only gun present was the hunter's one? If so was he trying not to get shot by his own gun? Did he abandon his gun? Before the car passed through the forest, was the hunter afraid?

Guess--> was the one who had the gun another hunter? Does the whole scene correspond to the end of the game confirming that the woman had won? Did the participants need to guess what the orange thing they saw from the car was? Was the car moving far from the scene (the hunter who try not to get shot from another hunter if the other was also an hunter)? Near?
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Re: [IrishElk] Clear and Present Danger

Postby irishelk » Sun Jul 16, 2017 1:36 pm

SurfingPikachu

Was it a game to see who can spot something? Some types of things? Yes. Hunters wearing orange? Simply orange objects? Yope. Did everyone choose or get assigned a different colour? No, but close.


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non-hunting game = finding the more possible of something? Kind of. Localise someone? No. Are hunters part of the game? Not in particular. Or would it be any person with an orange clothing? Yes. Is the color orange involved in that it highlights the things/people that should be found from the car? In part. Are the participants blindfolded? No. Can they do everything that want, considering that they are into a car, Yes. or is there something that prevent them to do some movement/something? Is the game somehow funny? It can be. Is the aim not to make kill animals by hunters? No. To make noise? No. Is making noise involved? No. Are participants supposed to do an action all together? Yesish. One per time? Is the relevant action to make a certain noise? Were hunters in the surroundings hidden? Were they hunting birds/other animals? Relevant? Were the hunters grouped in the same placed or "scattered" in the forest? Were the lady and the other participants able to see all of them? Just some? Did they recognize them because of their orange clothes? Did they want to find/meet them? No/irr to rest.

So...if the lady had won, there is some criterion to establish if one had won or lost right? Yes. I mean it cannot be a game like "guess the number of hunters" "guess something" ....right? No. Is the criterion verifiable with certainty? Yope, there's an element of the honor system. Are there other people/items with the same orange color? Not necessarily. The game involves patience right? Yes. Patience to locate something/someone? Yesish. To wait for something to happen? Yesish. Like someone to move? To position something in the right place? Yope.


Does the game involve something external to the car? Yes. ----> hunters? In this case, yes. items? Yesish. something that could be seen from the car? Yes. That could be touched from the car? No/irr.

He was probably just trying not to get shot.--> to recap...does it mean that someone is threatening him with a weapon (a gun) ? No. Are there more than 3 people involved right? Only two directly, others indirectly. I mean the 3 that are sure are the hunter, the lady and the one who was shooting to the hunter, right? FA. Or the one who was shooting to the hunter was the lady? No, FA. Did someone inside the car have the gun? No. Or the only gun present was the hunter's one? Yope. If so was he trying not to get shot by his own gun? No. Did he abandon his gun? No. Before the car passed through the forest, was the hunter afraid? No or irr.

Guess--> was the one who had the gun another hunter? Yesish. Does the whole scene correspond to the end of the game confirming that the woman had won? Yes: in te moment she is delighted, it is because she has won. Did the participants need to guess what the orange thing they saw from the car was? No. Was the car moving far from the scene (the hunter who try not to get shot from another hunter if the other was also an hunter)? No, slight FA. Near? Fairly close, yes.

I think you know all you need to about the hunter; all that is left is to figure out the game being played.
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Re: [IrishElk] Clear and Present Danger

Postby trebor » Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:14 pm

I'm drawing a blank on games that involve orange... Is it something similar to Hide and Seek? Is it more of a children's game? An adult game? Is it usually played in a car? Is it a game to spot certain colours? Is it a "get a point for every orange thing you see" sort of deal?
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Re: [IrishElk] Clear and Present Danger

Postby Earnest » Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:43 pm

is it finding the more orange things possible? Was only things outside the car involved or also the one inside the car were valid if orange?
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Re: [IrishElk] Clear and Present Danger

Postby irishelk » Thu Jul 20, 2017 1:26 pm

trebor

I'm drawing a blank on games that involve orange... I know there are a lot of variants--this one doesn't have a specific name that i know of. I can $p0i1 now if y'all get bored, but you're very close to figuring out the exact game she's playing!

Is it something similar to Hide and Seek? Somewhat. Is it more of a children's game? An adult game? Either. Is it usually played in a car? Yes, but it doesn't have to be. Is it a game to spot certain colours? YES. Is it a "get a point for every orange thing you see" sort of deal? Not exactly, you're very close.


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is it finding the more orange things possible? No, but something orange must be found. Was only things outside the car involved or also the one inside the car were valid if orange? Depends on how you play it. I'd insist on outside-the-car only.
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Re: [IrishElk] Clear and Present Danger

Postby SurfingPikachu » Thu Jul 20, 2017 1:35 pm

WAGs: first to spot one thing for each colour of the rainbow wins? Or there's an actual bingo board?
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Re: [IrishElk] Clear and Present Danger

Postby trebor » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:17 am

I came to post about it possibly being car bingo, but I see you've beaten me to it, SurfingPikachu! I'd bet that's it.
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Re: [IrishElk] Clear and Present Danger

Postby irishelk » Mon Jul 24, 2017 12:53 pm

Yeah, y'all got it. Well done. =)

*****************************SPOILER

The exact rules of the game she was playing--which is fun and can be done by anyone, pretty much any time you're bored--try to see and point out someone wearing clothing of every color in the rainbow sequentially (i.e. spot a red shirt, then an orange shirt, then a yellow shirt...). Orange is tough, and our hero was stuck on it for a long time--everyone else in the car was on green or blue! Finally, as they were driving through a wooded area she spotted a hunter wearing bright orange, so as not to be mistaken for a deer and shot. She was delighted that she was still in the game.
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Re: [IrishElk] {SPOTTED} Clear and Present Danger

Postby SurfingPikachu » Mon Jul 24, 2017 1:56 pm

Jeez, after the blue/black white/gold fiasco (it's clearly blue/gold to me), my colleagues and I would randomly point out ambiguous colours and ask one another what colour that is. I now know that 80% of my colleagues think that the clearly yellow mugs my office uses are green. We'd have a real "fun" time with your proposed rainbow game, we would. :lol:
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