[CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

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[CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby CoffeeBean » Thu Jul 13, 2017 7:54 pm

Something is causing a girl to constantly argue and fight with her best friend. This same thing is causing the girl's father's hair to turn purple. What is this something?

This is a real-life situation, avoid $poiling if you recognize it...
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby Earnest » Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:55 pm

Hi!

all humans? is this thing meant to paint? to dye? is the thing a tangible object?
If so, related to sport? Hobby Every day life? Is it a common object? Is it commonly sold? Can it be found in a store? is it something that can be used? If so on hairs? Can it be eaten? Drunk?

Does the thing cause also the girl to fight with her father? Does the girl fight with her best friend for the effects that the thing produces on her father?

causing the girl's father's hair to turn purple--> so that purple becomes the natural color of his hair?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby trebor » Fri Jul 14, 2017 12:10 am

Is the age of the girl relevant? The age of the father? Is the girl's best friend a human? Is the thing causing the father's hair to turn people over the same length of time that the girl and her friend are fighting? Is it relevant which started first, the fighting or the hair coloring changing? Would this puzzle work if the girl were a woman and her father similarly older?

Modern times? Geographic location relevant? Is blood/injury relevant?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby SurfingPikachu » Fri Jul 14, 2017 12:31 am

The hair is turning purple due to poison? Venom? Disease? Genetics? Ingesting something? Sunlight? Hair dye? Bleaching? Others? Or is this non-literal? Wigs involved?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby GalFisk » Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:04 am

Is the something a substance? A situation? Iodine? Os the hair slowly turning purple? If so, over: years? Months? Weeks? Days? Hours? Does the father know it's turning purple? Is he okay with it turning purple? Is he making it turn purple? Are issues with color perception relevant? Issues with color reproduction? Such as a display going off color? A printer running out of a color? Is technology relevant? Is she using purple pens or crayons to draw her father's hair? Because the right color is not available? Because her friend is hogging, stealing or destroying it? Relevant what the arguments are about? Age of the girl relevant? Gender of the friend relevant?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby CoffeeBean » Fri Jul 14, 2017 2:21 pm

all humans? Yes is this thing meant to paint? to dye? is the thing a tangible object? No to all
If so, related to sport? Hobby Every day life? Is it a common object? Is it commonly sold? Can it be found in a store? is it something that can be used? If so on hairs? Can it be eaten? Drunk? No to all

Does the thing cause also the girl to fight with her father? At times, yes Does the girl fight with her best friend for the effects that the thing produces on her father? No

causing the girl's father's hair to turn purple--> so that purple becomes the natural color of his hair? Yes, at least it appears that his hair is naturally this color

Is the age of the girl relevant? The age of the father? Neither is very relevant
Is the girl's best friend a human? Yes
Is the thing causing the father's hair to turn people over the same length of time that the girl and her friend are fighting? Yes - good q
Is it relevant which started first, the fighting or the hair coloring changing? Safe to assume both happened around the same time
Would this puzzle work if the girl were a woman and her father similarly older? Yes

Modern times? Relatively modern, yes, within the last 40 years
Geographic location relevant? Yes Is blood/injury relevant? No

The hair is turning purple due to ...poison? Venom? Disease? Genetics? Ingesting something? Sunlight? Hair dye? ...this.Bleaching? Others? Or is this non-literal? It's literal Wigs involved? No

Is the something a substance? A situation? This Iodine? Is the hair slowly turning purple? DYOD of "slowly", but...If so, over: years? Months? Weeks? Days? Most likely this, over the course of a few days[/b ]Hours? [b]Maybe even this, depending on something that has not yet been discovered
Does the father know it's turning purple? Yes Is he okay with it turning purple? Not at all!
Is he making it turn purple? Not on purpose, but yes
Are issues with color perception relevant? Issues with color reproduction? No to both
Such as a display going off color? A printer running out of a color? No, wrong track
Is technology relevant? Only to a very minor degree, but this may be helpful
Is she using purple pens or crayons to draw her father's hair? Because the right color is not available? Because her friend is hogging, stealing or destroying it? No to all
Relevant what the arguments are about? They are about many different things, but no specific topic is relevant
Age of the girl relevant? Her exact age not really, but something about age(s) is relevant here Gender of the friend relevant? Only relevant so far as understanding that she and the primary girl in the puzzle are both girls and are good friends (as opposed to this being a romantic relationship between a girl and a boy)
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby SurfingPikachu » Fri Jul 14, 2017 3:23 pm

Is the father unknowingly dyeing his own hair, perhaps because of mistaking the hair dye as shampoo?
Are the girls arguing over the misplacing of this hair dye?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby CoffeeBean » Fri Jul 14, 2017 3:50 pm

Is the father unknowingly dyeing his own hair, No, he is purposefully dyeing it
perhaps because of mistaking the hair dye as shampoo? Not this, but he is mistaken about something
Are the girls arguing over the misplacing of this hair dye? No
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby SurfingPikachu » Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:17 pm

If he is purposefully dyeing it, is he then mistaken about the colour that should result from the dyeing? (e.g. purple dye in a brown bottle)
Or is something causing the dye colour to change? If so, is a physical, chemical, or biological reaction taking place to cause the dye colour to change? (e.g. the dye is indeed brown, but reacts with heat/shampoo to turn purple)
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby CoffeeBean » Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:14 pm

If he is purposefully dyeing it, is he then mistaken about the colour that should result from the dyeing? (e.g. purple dye in a brown bottle)
No, but...
Or is something causing the dye colour to change? ...yes (this clears up the FA about what he's mistaken about)
If so, is a physical, chemical, or biological reaction taking place to cause the dye colour to change? Yes...
(e.g. the dye is indeed brown, but reacts with heat/shampoo to turn purple)...it is a reaction with something, yes
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby Grip » Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:14 pm

Hello, long time no see CB!

Is the setting of the puzzle in <LTPF list of continents?>

Is the mother of the girl (can we call her Lavender?) relevant? is she involved in this?

Is Lavenders friend directly interacting with the father?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby Earnest » Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:48 pm

Are all of his hairs turning purple? Would the puzzle still be valid if just a lock of his hairs turned purple? Or turned green?

Does his father have relevant habits? Are only his hairs to be turned purple or also hairs of other people? Are allergies relevant? Is his father's job relevant? Is her best friend's job?Is she hairdresser?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby Konnie » Sat Jul 15, 2017 3:02 pm

Does the dye react with something the father is using? Something the daughter or daughter's friend is using? Has he used this dye in the past with no ill effects?
Is the friend also angry with the daughter? Or with the father?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby GalFisk » Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:09 am

Does the dye react with the hair itself? With a substance the father puts in the hair? If so, on purpose? A substance that gets into the hair without his help? A gas? Is the girl arguing because her mood is affected by a substance? Does the father want to dye his hair another color? Black?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby CoffeeBean » Tue Jul 18, 2017 2:28 pm

Hello, long time no see CB! Hello to you as well!

Is the setting of the puzzle in <LTPF list of continents?> It's in the USA

Is the mother of the girl (can we call her Lavender?) relevant? is she involved in this? Her presence is somewhat relevant in discovering the solution, but she is not directly involved in either of the main situations mentioned in the puzzle statement

Is Lavenders friend directly interacting with the father? N/R

Are all of his hairs turning purple? Well enough of them so that the effect is very noticeable
Would the puzzle still be valid if just a lock of his hairs turned purple? Or turned green? Sure

Does his father have relevant habits? Yes
Are only his hairs to be turned purple or also hairs of other people? Only his
Are allergies relevant? No
Is his father's job relevant? You mean her father's job? Yes, it is relevant.
Is her best friend's job? Yes, but... Is she hairdresser? ...no

Does the dye react with something the father is using? No, the dye reacts with something else
Something the daughter or daughter's friend is using? No
Has he used this dye in the past NO, he hasn't... with no ill effects? ...so he's never realized that it could have this ill effect - good q
Is the friend also angry with the daughter? Yes and no (explore) Or with the father? The friend does not interact with the father to any relevant degree

Does the dye react with the hair itself? Yes, but another thing must be present too
With a substance No, not substance... the father puts in the hair? ...and it doesn't get "put in" the hair but you are OTRT
If so, on purpose? He doesn't purposefully cause this reaction, no
A substance No... that gets into the hair without his help? ...but he has no active part in this part of the reaction
A gas? No but close
Is the girl arguing because her mood is affected YES, but... by a substance? ...not by any substance
Does the father want to dye his hair another color? Black? Likely dark brown. The exact color he wants isn't relevant.
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby biograd » Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:16 pm

Is the dye changed in color by some environmental condition? such as temperature or humidity? For example, maybe he sometimes blow-dries the hair, and the hot air from the dryer causes the dye to change color?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby CoffeeBean » Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:02 pm

Is the dye changed in color by some environmental condition? Yes but "condition" may mislead you slightly
such as temperature or humidity? Not these
For example, maybe he sometimes blow-dries the hair, and the hot air from the dryer causes the dye to change color?
N/R
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby Grip » Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:07 pm

Anything supernatural relevant here?

Is hair washing relevant? soap? shampoo? hair drying?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby CoffeeBean » Wed Jul 19, 2017 2:30 pm

Anything supernatural relevant here? No

Is hair washing relevant? soap? shampoo? hair drying? No to all
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby Balin » Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:50 pm

Are mood rings involved at all?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby CoffeeBean » Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:33 am

Are mood rings involved at all? No
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby biograd » Thu Jul 20, 2017 1:47 pm

Is the dye, in fact, actually changed in color? or is it the color of the light in the room that is actually changing?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby CoffeeBean » Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:24 pm

Is the dye, in fact, actually changed in color? The effect is that his hair changes color due to the presence of the dye and something else (see below)
or is it the color of the light No, the light doesn't change in the room <-- FA that is actually changing? No, but light is relevant!
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby SurfingPikachu » Thu Jul 20, 2017 3:14 pm

Does the light cause a photochemical reaction in the hair dye?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby CoffeeBean » Thu Jul 20, 2017 3:40 pm

Does the light cause a photochemical reaction in the hair dye? Yes
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby GalFisk » Thu Jul 20, 2017 4:38 pm

Light: ultraviolet? Sunlight? Artificial light? Heat radiation? Visible light? Is the girl cranky because she is hot? Sunburnt? Is a lack of shelter relevant?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby CoffeeBean » Thu Jul 20, 2017 4:44 pm

Light: ultraviolet? Sunlight? Yes, both
Artificial light? Heat radiation? N/R Visible light? Yes (see above)
Is the girl cranky because she is hot? Sunburnt? No to both
Is a lack of shelter relevant? No, but the reason that the dad isn't using shelter is relevant
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby GalFisk » Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:03 am

Could he use a hat? Is he working in the sun? Sunbathing? Would shelter affect his tan? Are they on vacation?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby CoffeeBean » Fri Jul 21, 2017 3:00 pm

Could he use a hat? He did wear a hat on many occasions, possibly due to the reaction with his hair dye
Is he working in the sun? Yes Sunbathing? No (this is a funny suggestion, you'll understand why when the puzzle is solved)
Would shelter affect his tan? N/R Are they on vacation? No
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby SurfingPikachu » Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:02 pm

Is sunscreen relevant? If so, is it relevant in that it is used? Or in that it is not used? By the daughter? The father? The friend?
Does the hat interact with the hair dye? Is the hat relevant in the argument between daughter and friend?
Does the father's job cause him to get more exposure to the sun than an average person?
Is sweat or sunburn relevant?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby CoffeeBean » Fri Jul 21, 2017 7:00 pm

Is sunscreen relevant? No If so, is it relevant in that it is used? Or in that it is not used? By the daughter? The father? The friend? N/R
Does the hat interact with the hair dye? No Is the hat relevant in the argument between daughter and friend? No, the hat isn't relevant at all
Does the father's job cause him to get more exposure to the sun than an average person? At times, yes, explore this!
Is sweat or sunburn relevant? No
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby biograd » Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:17 pm

Is the father's job outdoors? at the beach (for example a lifeguard)? on a construction site?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby CoffeeBean » Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:17 pm

Is the father's job outdoors? His job does require him to be outdoors at times, yes
at the beach (for example a lifeguard)? on a construction site? Not this kind of job
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby CoffeeBean » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:33 pm

RECAP

Some intangible thing is causing a girl and her best friend to argue, and is also causing the girl's father's hair to turn purple.
All of this is taking place during the same time period.
The reason that the father's hair is changing color from dark brown to purple is because of a reaction between the hair dye and sunlight.
He has just started using this dye, he didn't know it would cause this reaction and he's not happy about it.
The father's job requires him to work outside sometimes, but it's not on a beach or related to construction.
Certain aspects of his job cause him to get more exposure to the sun than the average person.
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby SurfingPikachu » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:46 pm

Is "Something" = "This same thing" = sunlight? Is sunlight the connecting thing? That sounds like it theoretically answers the question but it doesn't sound like what you're looking for.
Does the father relevantly do anything regarding his higher-than-average exposure to the sun? Is this the connecting thing?
Does the daughter or her friend relevantly react to the father's hair turning purple?
Is the argument caused by a misunderstanding?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby CoffeeBean » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:53 pm

Is "Something" = "This same thing" = sunlight? No
Is sunlight the connecting thing? No
That sounds like it theoretically answers the question but it doesn't sound like what you're looking for. To clarify, sunlight exposure is part of the intangible thing that connects the hair color change with the girl and her friend arguing.
Does the father relevantly do anything regarding his higher-than-average exposure to the sun? What he does is also part of the intangible thing.
Is this the connecting thing? Yes, there is a direct connection between what the father does and his daughter's behavior
Does the daughter or her friend relevantly react to the father's hair turning purple? They probably thought it was funny, if they were aware of it at the time
Is the argument caused by a misunderstanding? No, but the cause of the argument is relevant
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby SurfingPikachu » Tue Jul 25, 2017 3:17 pm

Would the arguments still occur if:
- The father did not care about his hair turning purple?
- The father did not care about his higher-than-average exposure to the sun?
- The father had a different occupation, say, a desk job?
Is it relevant that the father often wore a hat?
Are the arguments related to an item? Opportunities for keeping in contact? Looks or fashion? ... (I must confess I do not know what girls would usually argue about...)
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby CoffeeBean » Tue Jul 25, 2017 3:32 pm

Would the arguments still occur if:
- The father did not care about his hair turning purple? Yes (no direct connection here)
- The father did not care about his higher-than-average exposure to the sun? Yes (no direct connection here)
- The father had a different occupation, say, a desk job? Probably, but it was necessary for the father to have this job (and here lies an FA)
Is it relevant that the father often wore a hat? Only one thing about his hat is relevant, and it's not simply the fact that he wore it
Are the arguments related to an item? Opportunities for keeping in contact? Looks or fashion? ... (I must confess I do not know what girls would usually argue about...) The subjects of the arguments is irrelevant
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby SurfingPikachu » Wed Jul 26, 2017 3:12 pm

Er... did the father in fact have a desk job?

Is the hat relevant in that it was not his? In that it was sometimes not worn? In that it prevented someone from knowing about his hair colour change?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby CoffeeBean » Wed Jul 26, 2017 3:37 pm

Er... did the father in fact have a desk job? No

Is the hat relevant in that it was not his? This isn't the most relevant thing, but it is helpful to know that the hat did not belong to him
In that it was sometimes not worn? Not really this
In that it prevented someone from knowing about his hair colour change? I don't think this was ever the case, he didn't wear the hat to prevent anyone from knowing about the color change. A few basic questions may help with this issue.
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby SurfingPikachu » Thu Jul 27, 2017 4:11 pm

Did the father know that the sunlight was causing the colour change? Did he wear a hat to try to mitigate this?
Does the hat belong to the daughter? Or the friend? Is the ownership relevant? Is the type of hat relevant?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby GalFisk » Fri Jul 28, 2017 6:27 am

Does the hat belong to his employer? Is it a hard hat? Other protective hat? Part of a uniform? A hat worn in order to identify him as an employee? A hat that protects from heat? Light? Cold? Hair getting out? A chef hat? Surgical cap? Does the hat affect his hair? Does it mess up his hairdo? Require a specific hairdo?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby CoffeeBean » Fri Jul 28, 2017 2:45 pm

Did the father know that the sunlight was causing the colour change? Not at first, but he discovered it very quickly
Did he wear a hat to try to mitigate this? Possibly but not relevant
Does the hat belong to the daughter? Or the friend? Neither
Is the ownership relevant? Yes (see below) Is the type of hat relevant? Yes

Does the hat belong to his employer? Yes
Is it a hard hat? Other protective hat? No, not this type of hat
Part of a uniform? Not exactly but OTRT
A hat worn in order to identify him as an employee? No
A hat that protects from heat? Light? Both of these (but see below)
Cold? Hair getting out? A chef hat? Surgical cap? No to these
Does the hat affect his hair? Does it mess up his hairdo? Require a specific hairdo? No to these

The function of the hat is similar to that of any person who spends a lot of time working outdoors, protection from the sun and heat. The fact that the hat doesn't belong to him is more important than the actual function of it...
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby SurfingPikachu » Fri Jul 28, 2017 4:37 pm

Does either the daughter or the friend relevantly interact with the hat? Want the hat?
Does the father bring the hat home? Or out of the workplace? Does the father relevantly bring anything between home and workplace?
Do the daughter or friend go to the father's workplace?
Are either the daughter or the friend related to the father's employer other than through the currently known relationships of friend - daughter - father - employer?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby CoffeeBean » Mon Jul 31, 2017 2:16 pm

Does either the daughter or the friend relevantly interact with the hat? Want the hat? No to all
Does the father bring the hat home? Yes and no (see next two answers) Or out of the workplace? No, he never does this
Does the father relevantly bring anything between home and workplace? No (good q)
Do the daughter or friend go to the father's workplace? Yes, quite often actually
Are either the daughter or the friend related to the father's employer other than through the currently known relationships of friend - daughter - father - employer? There is a more direct connection
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby SurfingPikachu » Mon Jul 31, 2017 2:42 pm

Is the friend related by blood to the daughter and father?
Is the friend related by employment to the daughter and father? Is the friend the employer? Is the friend's family the employer? Is the friend or the friend's family the father's colleagues?
Is babysitting involved? Is it worth exploring why the friend and daughter frequent the father's workplace?
Is the home the workplace?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby CoffeeBean » Mon Jul 31, 2017 3:07 pm

Is the friend related by blood to the daughter and father? No
Is the friend related by employment to the daughter and father? Yes Is the friend the employer? No
Is the friend's family the employer? No Is the friend or the friend's family the father's colleagues? No
Is babysitting involved? No Is it worth exploring why the friend and daughter frequent the father's workplace? Yes!
Is the home the workplace? Which home?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby SurfingPikachu » Mon Jul 31, 2017 3:40 pm

Oh I meant any of them, but to be more explicit:
Is the friend's home the workplace?
Is the daughter's home the workplace?
Is the father's home the workplace? (And is it the same as the daughter's home?)
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby GalFisk » Mon Jul 31, 2017 4:08 pm

Is the father self-employed? Does he work in child care? Education?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby CoffeeBean » Mon Jul 31, 2017 6:55 pm

Oh I meant any of them, but to be more explicit:
Is the friend's home the workplace?
Is the daughter's home the workplace?
Is the father's home the workplace? (And is it the same as the daughter's home?) Yes to all
Is the father self-employed? Does he work in child care? Education? No to these
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby CoffeeBean » Tue Aug 01, 2017 2:45 pm

RECAP 2

Some intangible thing is causing a girl and her best friend to argue, and is also causing the girl's father's hair to turn purple.
All of this is taking place during the same time period.
The reason that the father's hair is changing color from dark brown to purple is because of a reaction between the hair dye and sunlight.
He has just started using this dye, he didn't know it would cause this reaction and he's not happy about it.
The father's job requires him to work outside sometimes, but it's not on a beach or related to construction.
Certain aspects of his job cause him to get more exposure to the sun than the average person.
There is a direct connection between the father's job and the daughter's behavior.
The father wears a hat that belongs to his employer, but it's not a construction hat. It is a type of hat worn by someone who usually spends time working outdoors, providing shade and protection from sunlight.
The father, daughter and friend all spend a lot of time at the same workplace.
It's been discovered that the father's home is also his workplace (but there's a slight FA here).
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby Solong » Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:30 pm

Is the farmer a farmer/rancher? Or perhaps a DVM? a farrier?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby Solong » Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:32 pm

I meant 'Is the FATHER a farmer....etc."
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby CoffeeBean » Tue Aug 01, 2017 4:00 pm

Is the farmer a farmer/rancher? This is part of what he does, yes, and part of the reason he wears this type of hat...but explore this more
Or perhaps a DVM? No a farrier? He does this to some degree as well, but not as a profession
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby SurfingPikachu » Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:06 am

Wait, so all three of them live together? Or are there just multiple workplaces? Friend's home is daughter's home?

And the reason the girls frequent the father's workplace is that they are just often home?

Is the hat a straw hat? Is the home on a farm? Are there many families living on the farm if so?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby CoffeeBean » Wed Aug 02, 2017 2:16 pm

Wait, so all three of them live together? No Or are there just multiple workplaces? No Friend's home is daughter's home? No, but OTRT

And the reason the girls frequent the father's workplace is that they are just often home? FA here but OTRT

Is the hat a straw hat? No - the hat is a slouch hat, probably made of felt.

Is the home on a farm? Not exactly but OTRT Are there many families Yes, but... living on the farm if so? ...they don't "live" there
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby SurfingPikachu » Wed Aug 02, 2017 4:11 pm

Oh nvm I just got confused by what was included in your "Yes to all"
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby Solong » Wed Aug 02, 2017 9:32 pm

WAG - is Dad an actor (who may also be a farmer of sorts IRL) who plays the part of a farmer or cowboy, perhaps in a historical recreation or 'living museum'? Is the hat part of a costume provided by his employer?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby CoffeeBean » Thu Aug 03, 2017 1:56 pm

WAG - is Dad an actor Ah yes, indeed he is... (who may also be a farmer of sorts IRL) who plays the part of a farmer or cowboy, ...his role is similar to this, more closely to a farmer than a cowboy, but OTRT... perhaps in a historical recreation ...yes, very much so... or 'living museum'? ...but not this kind. Is the hat part of a costume provided by his employer? Yes
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby Solong » Thu Aug 03, 2017 2:42 pm

Is he just an actor then, on stage? films? TV? Is a battle involved, that is the 're-creation' of one?
Does the BF not approve of actors in general?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby CoffeeBean » Thu Aug 03, 2017 2:53 pm

Is he just an actor then, on stage? films? TV? This
Is a battle involved, that is the 're-creation' of one? No
Does the BF not approve of actors in general? No, safe to say it's quite the opposite
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby Solong » Sat Aug 05, 2017 2:31 pm

So he is not portraying a soldier. How about a sailor/seaman/fisherman? Something to do with water?
Or a farmer/rancher/cowboy?
does the TV show fall under the genre "Western?" Commercials relevant?
Does the daughter feel that BF is hanging around with her only because of her father?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby CoffeeBean » Mon Aug 07, 2017 1:55 pm

So he is not portraying a soldier. How about a sailor/seaman/fisherman? Something to do with water? No
Or a farmer/rancher/cowboy? Not exactly but OTRT
does the TV show fall under the genre "Western?" Not really, no Commercials relevant? No
Does the daughter feel that BF is hanging around with her only because of her father? No, no, much different situation
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby Solong » Tue Aug 08, 2017 6:40 pm

Are we safe in assuming that he is portraying a blue-collar worker, such as an oil-field hand?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby CoffeeBean » Tue Aug 08, 2017 8:27 pm

Are we safe in assuming that he is portraying a blue-collar worker, such as an oil-field hand?
He would likely be classified as blue-collar, but his work isn't related to the oil industry.
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby Solong » Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:35 pm

Is he a hunter/trapper? something likethat, even remotely?
Does he, for instance, portray a 'mountain man?'
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby CoffeeBean » Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:51 pm

Is he a hunter/trapper? something like that, even remotely? This isn't what he does primarily, but it is shown and/or implied that he knows how to do this kind of thing

Does he, for instance, portray a 'mountain man?' Not exactly but something about the kind of person he portrays is relevant
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby Solong » Thu Aug 10, 2017 8:43 pm

I occasionally watch TV shows about 'living off the land,' being self-suffiicient, etc. Is this sort of thing relevant?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby irishelk » Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:10 pm

Wow, this puzzle statement was so interesting that I had to read the entire thread so far. Sorry to swoop in...

So he is a TV actor playing a historical character? Does he wear the hat because the character wears a hat? Does he wear the hat on set? Does the filming require him to be outdoors in the sun a lot?

Is the daughter employed by the same production/show/reenactment that he is? Is she an actor? Is the daughter's best friend employed by the show? Is the friend an actor?

Is the daughter actually his daughter, or is it the character of his daughter on the show? Is the friend really her friend, or is it the character of her friend on the show?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby CoffeeBean » Fri Aug 11, 2017 2:21 pm

I occasionally watch TV shows about 'living off the land,' being self-suffiicient, etc. Is this sort of thing relevant? There was an indirect element of this, but it was not the focus of the show

Wow, this puzzle statement was so interesting that I had to read the entire thread so far. Sorry to swoop in...Glad you could join in!

So he is a TV actor playing a historical character? Yes
Does he wear the hat because the character wears a hat? Yes
Does he wear the hat on set? Yes Does the filming require him to be outdoors in the sun a lot? At times, yes

Is the daughter employed by the same production/show/reenactment that he is? Is she an actor? Is the daughter's best friend employed by the show? Is the friend an actor? Yes to all

Is the daughter actually his daughter, No... or is it the character of his daughter on the show? ...it is this, yes
Is the friend really her friend, Yes, in real life... or is it the character of her friend on the show? ...but no, on the show it's quite the opposite!
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby Solong » Fri Aug 11, 2017 4:52 pm

Is there a particular actor you have in mind, rather than just a generic or hypothetical actor?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby CoffeeBean » Fri Aug 11, 2017 6:27 pm

Is there a particular actor you have in mind, rather than just a generic or hypothetical actor?
Yes, this is a real-life situation involving 3 actors from a popular TV show that was shown over a period of time in the US
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby irishelk » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:47 pm

Ah, so when she argues with her best friend, is it simply because their characters on the show are made to hate one another? But they have no real anger toward each other?

Is the something the TV show itself? A plot line on the TV show? A specific episode?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby Solong » Sat Aug 12, 2017 7:55 pm

PM sent.
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Re: [CoffeeBean] Lavender Angst

Postby CoffeeBean » Mon Aug 14, 2017 2:34 pm

Ah, so when she argues with her best friend, is it simply because their characters on the show are made to hate one another? But they have no real anger toward each other? Exactly

Is the something the TV show itself? A plot line on the TV show? Yes to both A specific episode? No, many of them...


*** SPOILER ***

The TV show is "Little House On The Prairie." Michael Landon (who played Charles Ingalls) began to have gray hair in his 30's, and did not want to appear old on the show, so he began dying his hair. He soon discovered that after spending time outdoors filming the show (in California), exposure to sunlight caused the hair dye to react and make his hair color appear purple.

Melissa Gilbert and Allison Arngrim played the characters of Laura Ingalls and Nellie Olsen on the show, and the script called for them to frequently argue, but in real life they were very good friends and spent a lot of time together.

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