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[GalFisk] Tough to handle

Postby GalFisk » Sat Sep 30, 2017 4:34 pm

The reason the handles are bent is the same reason I rise earlier than necessary.
What is the reason, and how does it cause these two things?
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Re: [GalFisk] Tough to handle

Postby Earnest » Sun Oct 01, 2017 9:47 am

Hi again...at this point it can be affirmed that I am a big fun of your puzzles xD

So...handles = handles a door? Of the doors? If so of the doors of the rooms of your house? Of an house? Of a public place? An hispital? A hotel? A building? Of your car? Of a vehicle? Of a machine? Were handles usefull to turn something on? To open something? To turn something off? Were they connected to pipes? Was it dangerous that they were bent? Is it reasonable to suppose that all the handles in the range of 50km were bent?

Bent = rusted? Folded? Turned in a way such that it was reasonable to suppose that something was turned on? That something had been opened? That something was broken?

Rise = wake up? Than necessary = than when you usually rise? In the morning? to do something relevant? To go to work? To go outside? To search something?

Were the handles bent by water? By a natural calamity? By heat? By someone?
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Re: [GalFisk] Tough to handle

Postby GalFisk » Sun Oct 01, 2017 9:51 am

Hi again...at this point it can be affirmed that I am a big fun of your puzzles xD Happy to hear it.

So...handles = handles a door? Of the doors? No. If so of the doors of the rooms of your house? Of an house? Of a public place? An hispital? A hotel? A building? Of your car? Of a vehicle? Of a machine? Were handles usefull to turn something on? No to all. To open something? Yes. To turn something off? No. Were they connected to pipes? No. Was it dangerous that they were bent? No. Is it reasonable to suppose that all the handles in the range of 50km were bent? No.

Bent = rusted? No. Folded? No. Turned in a way such that it was reasonable to suppose that something was turned on? That something had been opened? That something was broken? No to all.

Rise = wake up? No. Than necessary = than when you usually rise? No. In the morning? Yesish. to do something relevant? Yes. To go to work? Yesish, explore. To go outside? Yes. To search something? No.

Were the handles bent by water? By a natural calamity? By heat? No to all. By someone? Yes.
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Re: [GalFisk] Tough to handle

Postby Earnest » Sun Oct 01, 2017 12:18 pm

To open something? Yes--> a window? a box? a drawer? something that was closed but you understood it was opened because the handle was bent? Because also that something was left opened?

were the handles bent inside your house? Outside? did you noticed that as soon as you raised? Did you understand it from the fact that you raised earlier? Were you in a bus? in a public mean of transport? Raise = stand up?

handle which must be pushed down to be opened? or an handle which must be grabbed and pulled in order to open what it is connected to?
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Re: [GalFisk] Tough to handle

Postby GalFisk » Sun Oct 01, 2017 1:10 pm

To open something? Yes--> a window? a box? a drawer? This. something that was closed but you understood it was opened because the handle was bent? Because also that something was left opened? No to both.

were the handles bent inside your house? Yes. Outside? did you noticed that as soon as you raised? No. Did you understand it from the fact that you raised earlier? No. Were you in a bus? No. in a public mean of transport? Yes. Raise = stand up? Yes.

handle which must be pushed down to be opened? No. or an handle which must be grabbed and pulled in order to open what it is connected to? Yes.
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Re: [GalFisk] Tough to handle

Postby Grouffe » Mon Oct 02, 2017 4:32 pm

So you bring the bent handles along when you leave your house, correct? Any kind of bicycle handles involved? Size of handles: small, to be contained inside a hand? Medium size? Or so large/long that it must be handled (heh heh) with two hands? Plural "handles": two? More than two? Less than six? Or could the number of handles vary? All of them bent?
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Re: [GalFisk] Tough to handle

Postby GalFisk » Tue Oct 03, 2017 11:46 am

So you bring the bent handles along when you leave your house, correct? No. Any kind of bicycle handles involved? No. Size of handles: small, to be contained inside a hand? Yes. Medium size? Or so large/long that it must be handled (heh heh) with two hands? Haha, no. Plural "handles": two? More than two? Less than six? Six, actually. Or could the number of handles vary? No, though other houses may have different numbers. All of them bent? Yes.
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Re: [GalFisk] Tough to handle

Postby Earnest » Tue Oct 03, 2017 2:48 pm

public mean = subway? train? did you stop at your stop (sorry for the game of words)? Before? After? Or did you just raise before the mean of transport stopped?

So you were going to work and stood up before the public mean stopped, right? Moreover we know that all the handles of just the drawer of your house were bent....but not the handles of the doors or other handles right?

Relevant how you knew that the handles were bent? Did you know that before you took the public mean? During? After? It was a phone call? Did you stand up as a reaction? Like you were surprised/concerned/nervous? Did the someone that bent the drawers search something? Something you missed? Something that was important to you? Was the someone related to you? Did the someone found what he/she was looking for?
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Re: [GalFisk] Tough to handle

Postby GalFisk » Tue Oct 03, 2017 3:15 pm

public mean = subway? train? This. did you stop at your stop Yes. (sorry for the game of words)? Never be sorry for wordplay ;) Before? After? Or did you just raise before the mean of transport stopped? Yes.

So you were going to work and stood up before the public mean stopped, right? Yes. Moreover we know that all the handles of just the drawer of your house were bent....but not the handles of the doors or other handles right? Correct.

Relevant how you knew that the handles were bent? Noish. Did you know that before you took the public mean? Yes. During? After? It was a phone call? No. Did you stand up as a reaction? No. Like you were surprised/concerned/nervous? Not at all. Did the someone that bent the drawers search something? No. Something you missed? No. Something that was important to you? Well, the one who bent the handles wanted something I enjoy. Was the someone related to you? Yes. Did the someone found what he/she was looking for? Yes.
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Re: [GalFisk] Tough to handle

Postby Earnest » Tue Oct 03, 2017 4:51 pm

was the someone your wife? your son? daughter?

so before you took the train (when you were in your house right?) to work you've noticed that someone (and you know who was the responsible of that right?) bent the drawers' handles in search of something you enjoy, right?

something you enjoy = electronic relevant? was the someone on the train with you when you stood up before the stop? Was the fact that you stood up before the stop somehow necessary to make the someone "confess" to have taken something from the drawers?
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Re: [GalFisk] Tough to handle

Postby GalFisk » Wed Oct 04, 2017 4:26 am

was the someone your wife? your son? daughter? No to all.

so before you took the train Yes. (when you were in your house right?) Yes, but FA. to work you've noticed that someone (and you know who was the responsible of that right?) Yes. bent the drawers' handles in search of something you enjoy, right? Yesish, same FA.

something you enjoy = electronic relevant? No. was the someone on the train with you when you stood up before the stop? Yes. Was the fact that you stood up before the stop somehow necessary to make the someone "confess" to have taken something from the drawers? No, and nothing was taken.
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Re: [GalFisk] Tough to handle

Postby Earnest » Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:12 am

well someone here is H/A/M or H/A/F right? Your brother/sister? A relative? A friend? The neighbor? someone who lives with you? or an animal like a dog?

is the FA the fact that the drawers were opened when you were in your house? So before you took the train but you were not in your house?

handles bent = drawers were opened? Or were opened in a specific way?

did you say something relevant when you stood up before the stop? Did you expect that the "someone" stood up as well? Was the someone's stop the same as yours? did you talk during the travel in train? Interact? relevant? did the someone knew that you were aware of the fact that he bent the drawers?
Did you stand up right before your stop or a lot of time before? I mean...were there other intermediate stops from when you stood up and when the train stopped for your stop?

Is the reason why you stood up before linked to the fact that the someone who was with you on the train opened your drawers? Because the someone was on the train? (if he was not you would not stand up before right?) Because the someone wasn't aware that you knew he bent the handles?

Well, the one who bent the handles wanted something I enjoy--> is it a device? Electronic relevant? A book? A diary? something precious? relevant that it was in a drawer? (hope not a FA here) If so, did you want to hide it? was it a movie? a music instrument? something related to one of your hobbies? a CD? an LP?
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Postby GalFisk » Wed Oct 04, 2017 12:02 pm

well someone here is H/A/M This. or H/A/F right? Your brother/sister? No. A relative? A friend? Yesish to both, FA.The neighbor? No. someone who lives with you? Yesish, same FA.or an animal like a dog? No.

is the FA the fact that the drawers were opened when you were in your house? No, I was in the house when they were opened.So before you took the train but you were not in your house? No, I was in my house.

handles bent = drawers were opened? No. Or were opened in a specific way? First they were opened, then the handles were bent.

did you say something relevant when you stood up before the stop? No. Did you expect that the "someone" stood up as well? Was the someone's stop the same as yours? Yes to both. Same FA as before. did you talk during the travel in train? Interact? Impossible to answer due to FA.relevant? did the someone knew that you were aware of the fact that he bent the drawers? Yes.
Did you stand up right before your stop or a lot of time before? I mean...were there other intermediate stops from when you stood up and when the train stopped for your stop? No, I stood up maybe a minute early.

Is the reason why you stood up before linked to the fact that the someone who was with you on the train opened your drawers? Yes, laterally. Because the someone was on the train? (if he was not you would not stand up before right?) Correct, but FA Because the someone wasn't aware that you knew he bent the handles? I was aware that they were bent, and who did it.

Well, the one who bent the handles wanted something I enjoy--> is it a device? Electronic relevant? A book? A diary? something precious? No to all relevant that it was in a drawer? (hope not a FA here) It was not in a drawer. That is not the FA above though. If so, did you want to hide it? No.
was it a movie? a music instrument? No to both. something related to one of your hobbies? It is laterally related to one of my hobbies. a CD? an LP? No to both.
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Re: [GalFisk] Tough to handle

Postby Earnest » Wed Oct 04, 2017 3:42 pm

FA = was it you?

Did the someone found what he/she was looking for? Yes. --> if it was you...did you bring the item with you on the train? Was the presence of the item on the train the reason why you stood before?

If you didn't stand before would something embarrassing happened? something bad? something dangerous? something that would have prevent you to get off the train in time? without discomforts? Like the object was too long or too heavy and you needed to prepare before in order to leave the train prepared? Or like you were seated on a place far from the exit door of the train and with the object you needed a minute to reach it?
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Postby GalFisk » Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:21 am

FA = was it you? Yes. I opened the drawers and bent their handles. FA cleared.

Did the someone found what he/she was looking for? Yes. --> if it was you...did you bring the item with you on the train? No. And another FA.Was the presence of the item on the train the reason why you stood before? Yesish, same FA.

If you didn't stand before would something embarrassing happened? something bad? something dangerous? something that would have prevent you to get off the train in time? without discomforts? Like the object was too long or too heavy and you needed to prepare before in order to leave the train prepared? FA. Or like you were seated on a place far from the exit door of the train and with the object you needed a minute to reach it? No to everything.
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Re: [GalFisk] Tough to handle

Postby Earnest » Thu Oct 05, 2017 8:33 am

Ok...so I need to be much more careful...were you on the train or outside? Were you waiting for the train? Is this the second FA? If so were you waiting for someone?

Let's restart...did you open the drawers because you were looking for something? An object or item? Then you found what you were looking for and bent the handles with your hands? And left the drawers opened? After all those deeds you went to the station right? And stood up one minute before the train stopped?

If these deeds are more or less correct...was the hobby connected laterally to the object a sport? (rugby? hockey? football? running? swimming? basket? volley? jogging? dancing? riding horses? ping pong? tennis? bowling?) Is it a table game? (chess? any table game?) Something like hunting? collections? Looking for mushrooms? Reading? Listening to music? video games?
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Postby GalFisk » Thu Oct 05, 2017 1:07 pm

Ok...so I need to be much more careful...were you on the train This. or outside? Were you waiting for the train? Not relevantly to the puzzle. Is this the second FA? No. If so were you waiting for someone? No.

Let's restart...did you open the drawers because you were looking for something? Noish. An object or item? No. Then you found what you were looking for and bent the handles with your hands? No to all. And left the drawers opened? Yes. After all those deeds you went to the station right? Yes. And stood up one minute before the train stopped? Yes.

If these deeds are more or less correct...was the hobby connected laterally to the object a sport? Yes, same FA. (rugby? hockey? football? running? swimming? basket? volley? jogging? dancing? riding horses? ping pong? tennis? bowling?) No to all. Is it a table game? (chess? any table game?) Something like hunting? collections? Looking for mushrooms? Reading? Listening to music? video games? No to all.
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Re: [GalFisk] Tough to handle

Postby Earnest » Thu Oct 05, 2017 5:51 pm

was there something inside the drawers?

So you opened the drawers simply as an every day routine? If the "something" is not an object...is it an animal? Something solid? Liquid? A gas? Something tangible? An attitude? An habit? Was opening the drawers and bent the handles part of your sport routine as well as the fact you stood up before on the train?
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Re: [GalFisk] Tough to handle

Postby GalFisk » Fri Oct 06, 2017 3:51 pm

was there something inside the drawers? Yes, but irrelevant.

So you opened the drawers simply as an every day routine? No. If the "something" is not an object...is it an animal? Something solid? Liquid? A gas? Something tangible? An attitude? An habit? No to all. Was opening the drawers and bent the handles part of your sport routine as well as the fact you stood up before on the train? No, neither was part of any sport.
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Re: [GalFisk] Tough to handle

Postby Hobbsicle » Mon Oct 16, 2017 5:01 pm

You bent the handles with tools of some kind? Did you do so in order to use the handles for an alternate purpose? Like using them as hooks or loops? Is physical exercise/training relevant?
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Re: [GalFisk] Tough to handle

Postby GalFisk » Tue Oct 17, 2017 7:38 am

You bent the handles with tools of some kind? No. Did you do so in order to use the handles for an alternate purpose? No, but OTRT. Like using them as hooks or loops? No. Is physical exercise/training relevant? Noish.
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Re: [GalFisk] Tough to handle

Postby Grouffe » Tue Oct 17, 2017 7:44 am

Did you deliberately bend the handles? Or by accident?
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Re: [GalFisk] Tough to handle

Postby GalFisk » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:31 am

Did you deliberately bend the handles? Or by accident? Yope to both.
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Re: [GalFisk] Tough to handle

Postby Grouffe » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:38 am

Did you step on the handles as a sort of ladder?
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Postby Earnest » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:20 am

just a clarification...I googled "bend handles" because I don't understand this phrase and *googling* I came up with scissors called "bend handles"...are those relevant?

However...do you usually sand up just when the train stops? did you take the train that you take usually? If so, did you stop at your usual stop? Were you seated in an ordinary seat? Can we assume that you arrived at the station on time? That you were not late and you found a normal seat in your usual train to work?

Bend the handles = did you bend the handles/ leave the drawers opened in order to remember something when you come back home?(well...not to incur in other FAs...did you come back to the home whose drawers were left opened and the handles bent, right?) In order to have an excuse for something?

reason why you stand 1 min before the stop: to look for something? Because you didn't have something (e.g. ticket?)? Did you plan on the train to stand a minute earlier? Did you plan it before taking the train? While you were seated? in that moment? Because something inside the train happened, which usually is not a "problem", but made you stand up a minute earlier for the same reason why the handles were bent? Were you the only one who stood up before the train stopped? If not, did the other stand up for the same reason of you?
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Re: [GalFisk] Tough to handle

Postby GalFisk » Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:06 pm

Did you step on the handles as a sort of ladder? Yes!

just a clarification...I googled "bend handles" because I don't understand this phrase and *googling* I came up with scissors called "bend handles"...are those relevant? No. See above.

However...do you usually sand up just when the train stops? No. did you take the train that you take usually? Yes. If so, did you stop at your usual stop? Yes. Were you seated in an ordinary seat? Yes. Can we assume that you arrived at the station on time? Yes. That you were not late and you found a normal seat in your usual train to work? Correct

Bend the handles = did you bend the handles/ leave the drawers opened in order to remember something when you come back home? No.(well...not to incur in other FAs...did you come back to the home whose drawers were left opened and the handles bent, right?) No, good question. In order to have an excuse for something? No.

reason why you stand 1 min before the stop: to look for something? Not for, but OTRT. Because you didn't have something (e.g. ticket?)? No. Did you plan on the train to stand a minute earlier? Did you plan it before taking the train? This. While you were seated? in that moment? Because something inside the train happened, which usually is not a "problem", but made you stand up a minute earlier for the same reason why the handles were bent? Nothing inside the train happened. I stood up for the same reason I bent the handles. Were you the only one who stood up before the train stopped? Possibly. If not, did the other stand up for the same reason of you? No, as far as I know I'm the only person on the train to do this for this reason.
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Re: [GalFisk] Tough to handle

Postby Grouffe » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:18 pm

Were you injured when climbing the "handle ladder"? Did you have to stand up earlier than normal because an injury (or something else caused by the bent handles) made your movements slower? Were your clothes or shoes ripped up or affected by your climbing on the handles?
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Postby GalFisk » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:20 pm

Were you injured when climbing the "handle ladder"? Did you have to stand up earlier than normal because an injury (or something else caused by the bent handles) made your movements slower? Were your clothes or shoes ripped up or affected by your climbing on the handles? No to all.
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Re: [GalFisk] Tough to handle

Postby Earnest » Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:41 pm

So...not to look for sonething....to look at something? At someone? If there was soneone? If there was the car of someone? If you look at something...was it something outside the window of the train? Or inside the train (even though I suppose that in this last case you would have all the time to look at it...and if not...is it something that appears/changes just one minute before the train stops?)?

Don't know if already asked but...were you looking for someone at house 1 (the one of drawers left opened)?

You said you did not come back to house 1....so...was it your house? Do you usually go to the train station from house 1? Do you usually go to house 1? Is it your parents'house? Your second house? An inhabited house? A place where you go for a specific purpose?
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Postby GalFisk » Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:53 pm

So...not to look for sonething....to look at something? Sort of. Explore. At someone? No. If there was soneone? No. If there was the car of someone? No. If you look at something...was it something outside the window of the train? Yes(ish). Or inside the train (even though I suppose that in this last case you would have all the time to look at it...and if not...is it something that appears/changes just one minute before the train stops?)? Something relevant appears/happens a minute before the stop.

Don't know if already asked but...were you looking for someone at house 1 (the one of drawers left opened)? No, and I opened the drawers in order to be able to climb the handles.

You said you did not come back to house 1....so...was it your house? Yes, but... Do you usually go to the train station from house 1? No, never. Do you usually go to house 1? No. Is it your parents'house? This - but when I opened the drawers, it was my house too, because... Your second house? An inhabited house? A place where you go for a specific purpose? No to all.
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Re: [GalFisk] Tough to handle

Postby Balin » Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:06 pm

Did you open the drawers/bend the handles when you were a child?
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Re: [GalFisk] Tough to handle

Postby GalFisk » Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:10 pm

Did you open the drawers/bend the handles when you were a child? Correct.
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Re: [GalFisk] Tough to handle

Postby Grouffe » Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:30 pm

I wonder what the "ish" part is regarding what you saw outside the train...

Did you spot a hardware store selling handles to replace the damaged ones? An ad for home equipment?

Did you see any of your parents outside? A guy you knew could fix the handles?
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Re: [GalFisk] Tough to handle

Postby GalFisk » Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:42 pm

I wonder what the "ish" part is regarding what you saw outside the train... It will become clear, eventually.

Did you spot a hardware store selling handles to replace the damaged ones? An ad for home equipment? No to both.

Did you see any of your parents outside? A guy you knew could fix the handles? No to both.
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Re: [GalFisk] Tough to handle

Postby Grouffe » Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:45 pm

Did you see someone preparing to enter the train? Leave the train?
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Re: [GalFisk] Tough to handle

Postby GalFisk » Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:53 pm

Did you see someone preparing to enter the train? Leave the train? No to both.
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Re: [GalFisk] Tough to handle

Postby hoodie » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:22 pm

Are you standing up to see a reflection in the window? If so, a reflection of yourself?

Are you standing up to be seen by someone else?

Is it entirely accurate to say that you want to "see" something? Or is one of the other 5 senses in play here?

If you are in fact trying to "see" something, would you describe that "something" as an object? collection of objects? an event? an absence of something?

Finally, this underlying reason that led you to climb the handles and stand up in the train car - is it simply that you like to climb?
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Re: [GalFisk] Tough to handle

Postby GalFisk » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:35 am

Are you standing up to see a reflection in the window? If so, a reflection of yourself? No to both.

Are you standing up to be seen by someone else? No.

Is it entirely accurate to say that you want to "see" something? Yes. Or is one of the other 5 senses in play here? No.

If you are in fact trying to "see" something, would you describe that "something" as an object? No. collection of objects? No. an event? Yope - an event causes the thing I want to see. an absence of something? Noish.

Finally, this underlying reason that led you to climb the handles and stand up in the train car - is it simply that you like to climb? No - but I like to climb in order to be able to see this thing.
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Re: [GalFisk] Tough to handle

Postby Grouffe » Wed Oct 18, 2017 9:50 am

Is the thing or event you see when climbing the handles, and the thing or event you see when you raise from the train seat identical or similar?
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Re: [GalFisk] Tough to handle

Postby GalFisk » Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:33 am

Is the thing or event you see when climbing the handles, and the thing or event you see when you raise from the train seat identical No. or similar? DOYD. It's called the same, but looks different.
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Re: [GalFisk] Tough to handle

Postby hoodie » Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:39 pm

Is this associated with an interest in celestial bodies?

Lunar eclipse / solar eclipse?
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Re: [GalFisk] Tough to handle

Postby GalFisk » Thu Oct 19, 2017 4:44 am

Is this associated with an interest in celestial bodies? No.

Lunar eclipse / solar eclipse? No.
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Re: [GalFisk] Tough to handle

Postby Earnest » Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:36 am

..is it something you read on a book? Something which was in your imagination but you also saw on the train? Like a billboard? To be sure...on the train you = adult or child?

relevant the part of the day in which you wanted to see the something? If so, night? Afternoon? Morning? Evening?

an event causes the thing I want to see--> Was the event a natural event? Did you believe to see something because of a movie you saw? A story that was told to you/you read?

something you wanted to see in house= fireworks? an animal? a living thing? A tangible thing? On the ground? Up in the air?

something you saw on train = an advertisement? A name? A thing which remembered you the thing you wanted to see'

If you climbed the drawers...was it because you wanted to see something from a window? was it something on the outside of your house?
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Re: [GalFisk] Tough to handle

Postby Grouffe » Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:50 am

A sort of word mixup here? Like, you climb the handles to reach a jar of cookies, and there is a shop outside the train named 'Cookie Jar' or something in the same line of thinking?
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Re: [GalFisk] Tough to handle

Postby GalFisk » Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:25 pm

..is it something you read on a book? Something which was in your imagination but you also saw on the train? Like a billboard? No to all. To be sure...on the train you = adult or child? I ride the relevant train as an adult.

relevant the part of the day in which you wanted to see the something? If so, night? Afternoon? Morning? Evening? Only relevant that it's not dark outside.

an event causes the thing I want to see--> Was the event a natural event? No. Did you believe to see something because of a movie you saw? A story that was told to you/you read? No to both.

something you wanted to see in house= fireworks? an animal? a living thing? A tangible thing? On the ground? No to all. Up in the air? No, but OTRT.

something you saw on train = an advertisement? A name? No. A thing which remembered you the thing you wanted to see' It was the same thing I saw as a child, and it reminded me of what I did as a child.

If you climbed the drawers...was it because you wanted to see something from a window? was it something on the outside of your house? No to both.

A sort of word mixup here? Like, you climb the handles to reach a jar of cookies, and there is a shop outside the train named 'Cookie Jar' or something in the same line of thinking? No, OTWT.
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Re: [GalFisk] Tough to handle

Postby hoodie » Fri Oct 20, 2017 1:06 am

In the house, were you climbing the handles to get up to another room? An attic? The roof? Access to a skylight? Access to a cabinet?
Did you stop when you reached the last drawer? Or when you reached the top of that furniture item?
Was it to get a view of something that was in the same room as the piece of furniture you climbed?


Was the thing you saw as a child a smaller-scale version of the thing you saw from the train?
Was it a virtual version, such as an image on a television screen?
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Re: [GalFisk] Tough to handle

Postby Earnest » Fri Oct 20, 2017 4:42 pm

did you see something outside of the train? Inside of the train?
The thing you saw was intangible? Like a light?

Do you pass with the train near your old house? If so did you stand up when you passed in front of your house?
so if it is your usual train...have you noticed that something in your previous journeys? I mean...you didn't stand up one minute before every day you took the train right? If not, you stood up one min before that day, planning it in advance because you knew that that specific day something would have happened?
If so, was it a special day? Your birthday? an anniversary? did you live near a stadium? near a place where a sport was practiced?

Something = a sport event?


Stand up...does it mean that you are not able to see the thing if you are seated? Is the countryside relevant?
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Re: [GalFisk] Tough to handle

Postby GalFisk » Fri Oct 20, 2017 7:12 pm

In the house, were you climbing the handles to get up to another room? No. An attic? The roof? Access to a skylight? Access to a cabinet? No to all.
Did you stop when you reached the last drawer? Or when you reached the top of that furniture item? I climbed up onto the kitchen counter.
Was it to get a view of something that was in the same room as the piece of furniture you climbed? Yesish.


Was the thing you saw as a child a smaller-scale version of the thing you saw from the train? Yes.
Was it a virtual version, such as an image on a television screen? No.

did you see something outside of the train? This. Inside of the train? Seeing the inside of the train helps.
The thing you saw was intangible? Yes. Like a light? No.

Do you pass with the train near your old house? No. If so did you stand up when you passed in front of your house?
so if it is your usual train...have you noticed that something in your previous journeys? Yes. I mean...you didn't stand up one minute before every day you took the train right? No. If not, you stood up one min before that day, planning it in advance because you knew that that specific day something would have happened? Correct.
If so, was it a special day? Your birthday? an anniversary? did you live near a stadium? near a place where a sport was practiced? No to all.

Something = a sport event? No.


Stand up...does it mean that you are not able to see the thing if you are seated? It's less obvious. Is the countryside relevant? The landscape is relevant.
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Re: [GalFisk] Tough to handle

Postby Grouffe » Sat Oct 21, 2017 2:40 pm

Did you climb the kitchen counter to look out of the kitchen window, or get a better view of the scenery outside?

Did a window view towards the outside resemble the view from the train window towards outside?
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Re: [GalFisk] Tough to handle

Postby GalFisk » Sat Oct 21, 2017 11:16 pm

Did you climb the kitchen counter to look out of the kitchen window, or get a better view of the scenery outside? no.

Did a window view towards the outside resemble the view from the train window towards outside? No.
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Re: [GalFisk] Tough to handle

Postby Earnest » Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:17 am

Is an advertisment somehow relevant? E.g. you saw in TV when you was a child a TV advertisment in which a landscape was displayed, which was the landscape outside the train you usually take?

Was something inaugurated that day? E.g. a firm?
Is the landscape mainly constituted by: nature? Firms? River? Was the train on a bridge when crossing the landscape?
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Re: [GalFisk] Tough to handle

Postby GalFisk » Tue Oct 24, 2017 7:09 am

Is an advertisment somehow relevant? No. E.g. you saw in TV when you was a child a TV advertisment in which a landscape was displayed, which was the landscape outside the train you usually take? No.

Was something inaugurated that day? No. E.g. a firm? No.
Is the landscape mainly constituted by: nature? Yes. Firms? No. River? Yes. Was the train on a bridge when crossing the landscape? Yes.
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Re: [GalFisk] Tough to handle

Postby Grouffe » Wed Oct 25, 2017 4:37 pm

Any boats to watch on the river? When as a child? On the train journey?

A flood or water rise in the river? A strong stream or waterfall? An unusual color or a reflex in the water? A waking fish or a salmon jumping? A flight of birds, wading birds, swimming birds? Fog? A competition, race or show imminent?
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Re: [GalFisk] Tough to handle

Postby GalFisk » Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:11 am

Any boats to watch on the river? No. When as a child? On the train journey?

A flood or water rise in the river? A strong stream or waterfall? An unusual color or a reflex in the water? A waking fish or a salmon jumping? A flight of birds, wading birds, swimming birds? Fog? A competition, race or show imminent? No to all.
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Re: [GalFisk] Tough to handle

Postby Earnest » Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:22 am

is the river the relevant part of the landscape?
Is the inside of the train relevant in that it gave you an info: e.g. info on the temperature? Speed of the train? News?

My personal problem on that is that you knew it in advance that in that specific day there would be something...so...if our focus is on a river...I don't know..is it a natural event? is it the water the relevant part? The sun reflected on the water? (e.g. an eclipse reflected on the water)...something reflected on the water of the river?
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Re: [GalFisk] Tough to handle

Postby GalFisk » Thu Oct 26, 2017 11:21 am

is the river the relevant part of the landscape? Yes, but it could work without a river, depending on the landscape.
Is the inside of the train relevant in that it gave you an info: e.g. info on the temperature? Speed of the train? News? No.

My personal problem on that is that you knew it in advance that in that specific day there would be something... FA - it's there every day. so...if our focus is on a river...I don't know..is it a natural event? is it the water the relevant part? The sun reflected on the water? (e.g. an eclipse reflected on the water)...something reflected on the water of the river?
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Re: [GalFisk] Tough to handle

Postby Earnest » Thu Oct 26, 2017 11:59 am

event happening that day = a recurrence? is it something that happens periodically? (e.g. every year? every month? every week? seasonally? once in 10 years? more rare than this?) Are Santa/Christmas/easter/end of the year/snow melting, relevant?
Relevant meteorological conditions?

part of the landscape relevant is just that it was surrounded by nature? That the train was on a bridge?

Up in the air? No, but OTRT --> so not in the sky? on a tree? just not on the ground? Reflected somewhere? northern Lights (just because you come from Sweden xD)?

optic effects relevant?
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Re: [GalFisk] Tough to handle

Postby GalFisk » Fri Oct 27, 2017 6:18 am

event happening that day = a recurrence? Yes. is it something that happens periodically? Yes. (e.g. every year? every month? every week? seasonally? once in 10 years? more rare than this?) Several times a day. Are Santa/Christmas/easter/end of the year/snow melting, relevant? No.
Relevant meteorological conditions? Only that it's not dark.

part of the landscape relevant is just that it was surrounded by nature? Noish. That the train was on a bridge? This is the most relevant.

Up in the air? No, but OTRT --> so not in the sky? Correct. on a tree? No. just not on the ground? Thisish. Reflected somewhere? No. northern Lights (just because you come from Sweden xD)? No.

optic effects relevant? No.
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Re: [GalFisk] Tough to handle

Postby Earnest » Sat Oct 28, 2017 4:47 pm

Did the bridge open to allow boats to cross?
Was there a scale model of a train with a bridge in house 1 when you was a child? Was the train in the middle of the bridge? At the beginning? At the end? Was the train moving? Had the train stopped?

Is the height in the middle of the bridge relevant? Did you want to see a number? A text/writing?
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Re: [GalFisk] Tough to handle

Postby GalFisk » Sat Oct 28, 2017 5:14 pm

Did the bridge open to allow boats to cross? No.
Was there a scale model of a train with a bridge in house 1 when you was a child? No. Was the train in the middle of the bridge? At the beginning? At the end? Was the train moving? All of the above. Had the train stopped? No.

Is the height in the middle of the bridge relevant? Yes. Did you want to see a number? A text/writing? No to both.
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Re: [GalFisk] Tough to handle

Postby Earnest » Sat Oct 28, 2017 5:19 pm

So it is something intangible that you can see at a certain height? Did you look down when looking outside of the train? Up? Right in front of you?
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Re: [GalFisk] Tough to handle

Postby GalFisk » Sat Oct 28, 2017 7:32 pm

So it is something intangible that you can see at a certain height? Yes... Did you look down when looking outside of the train? Up? Right in front of you? All of the above.
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Re: [GalFisk] Tough to handle

Postby Earnest » Sun Oct 29, 2017 9:47 am

Is it the height itself? dizziness relevant to the puzzle?
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Re: [GalFisk] Tough to handle

Postby GalFisk » Sun Oct 29, 2017 9:59 am

Is it the height itself? Yes! dizziness relevant to the puzzle? No.

***SPOILER***
I've always loved heights.
When I was little, I climbed up on the kitchen counter in order to get a view from a height.
When I'm grown up, I stand up in te train to work when it passes a high bridge, in order to get the best perspective.
The sports connection is to my skydiving hobby.

Thanks for playing!
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Re: [GalFisk] Tough to handle (HANDLED)

Postby Earnest » Sun Oct 29, 2017 7:52 pm

Wow!!! Very nice puzzle!
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