[IrishElk] Land and Freedom

[irishelk]

On a warm, sunny day, a group of people are in the park, standing close together in one particular area. They aren't doing or watching anything particular, and they don't know each other. Usually visitors to this park tend to spread out to their own areas. What is happening?

[Earnest]

people = mixed H/A/M and H/A/F? How many: hundreds? More? Thousands? More than fifty? More than ten? More than two hundred?

Was it a particular day? Had they done it another day, would the puzzle still work? Park = a relatively small park? Or a national park (e.g. Yosemite...)? did they gather spontaneously? were they gathered for a specific purpose? For a long time? Was there a danger? Were they waiting for something to happen?

Particular area--> with a special building/attraction/animal species/countryside with respect to the other parts f the park? Is the particular area all covered in people? Are all the people in the park assembled in the park?

Close together = in physical contact one to another? (if so physical contact = shoulder to shoulder? By holding their hands? Their arms?) One in front of the other?

Usually visitors to this park tend to spread out to their own areas--> does it mean that there are areas for visitors and areas designated to other activities/animals...?
Is this sentence to point out that usually visitors do not stay in the same area close together?

[GalFisk]

Did they want to stand close togther? Were they afraid not to? Were they unable not to? Did they hear something relevant? Feel something relevant? Did they intend to go somewhere? Is a pedestrian traffic jam relevant?

[irishelk]

Earnest

people = mixed H/A/M and H/A/F? Yes. How many: hundreds? More? Thousands? More than fifty? More than ten? More than two hundred? Let's say a couple dozen.

Was it a particular day? As in date? No. Had they done it another day, would the puzzle still work? No. Park = a relatively small park? Or a national park (e.g. Yosemite...)? Irr. did they gather spontaneously? Yesish. were they gathered for a specific purpose? Yope. For a long time? Not particularly. Was there a danger? No. Were they waiting for something to happen? No.

Particular area--> with a special building/attraction/animal species/countryside with respect to the other parts f the park? Yope to "countryside," no to rest. Is the particular area all covered in people? Nor necessarily, but... Are all the people in the park assembled in the park? All the visitors are there, yes.

Close together = in physical contact one to another? (if so physical contact = shoulder to shoulder? By holding their hands? Their arms?) One in front of the other? No to all.

Usually visitors to this park tend to spread out to their own areas--> does it mean that there are areas for visitors and areas designated to other activities/animals...? Not necessarily.
Is this sentence to point out that usually visitors do not stay in the same area close together? Correct.


GalFisk

Did they want to stand close together? Nor particularly. Were they afraid not to? No. Were they unable not to? No. Did they hear something relevant? Possibly. Feel something relevant? Probably, at least some. Did they intend to go somewhere? Is a pedestrian traffic jam relevant? No to rest.

[Balin]

Is any particular technology involved?
Do the people have something in common?
Is there any relevant exhibition in the park?
Are they in a grassy area? Flat? Woodland? Playground?

[Earnest]

They aren't doing or watching anything meandls at the moment they gathered? Or also later on? maybe something has happened and they were still assembled?

They are not doing anything means that they are standing (are they standing? Lying? Sitting?Relevant?) maybe talking to each orher and stop?
Or maybe they were performing something? Or maybe the fact that they were crowded all together in that place was sonehow relevant ?(e.g. for a protest? Or they were shot from above for a documentary?...)

Was it important just that all visitors were located in the same place? Or they must be in that specific place? If the latter was it to allow rhe staff of the national park to do sonething? To facilitate some action? Because in that way all the rest of the park was completely without people? Is the entry of the park relevant? Was it to avoid the visitors to e disturbed? Were they obliged?

To be sure...were them common visitors? Famous people?

[irishelk]

Balin

Is any particular technology involved? No.
Do the people have something in common? No.
Is there any relevant exhibition in the park? No.
Are they in a grassy area? Flat? Woodland? No. Playground? Irr to rest.


Earnest

They aren't doing or watching anything meandls at the moment they gathered? Right. Or also later on? Yes. maybe something has happened and they were still assembled? No.

They are not doing anything means that they are standing (are they standing? Lying? Sitting?Relevant? Irr.) maybe talking to each orher and stop? Some might be; irr.
Or maybe they were performing something? Or maybe the fact that they were crowded all together in that place was sonehow relevant ?(e.g. for a protest? Or they were shot from above for a documentary?...) No to all, good thought though.

Was it important just that all visitors were located in the same place? Or they must be in that specific place? Yes. If the latter was it to allow rhe staff of the national park to do sonething? No. To facilitate some action? No. Because in that way all the rest of the park was completely without people? This is true, but was not their intent. Is the entry of the park relevant? Was it to avoid the visitors to e disturbed? Were they obliged? No to rest.

To be sure...were them common visitors? Famous people? Actually, irr.

[GalFisk]

Did they make the decision to go to that area independently of each other? Had they decided to do so before arriving at the park?

[Earnest]

is it possible that it was simply by chance? did they follow a map of the park? Was an announce made? Relevant the presence of guides in the park? Were visitors divided into groups and each group has a guide? If so, is it usual or usually people is "free" to move?

Relevant that it was a "warm and sunny day"? Could it have taken place while raining? With any other meteorological condition?

did all visitors arrive in that specific place at the same time? separately? Did they know that all visitors were assembled in that specific place?
Specific place...relevant which place? Its location inside the park? If it was near a watercourse? A mountain? A river? A forest? A natural attraction?

little WAG...was it inaugurate a special mean of transport which conducts to a specific place in the park and all visitors wanted to try it in its first ride? So they were assembled all together in the same place somehow?

[irishelk]

GalFisk

Did they make the decision to go to that area independently of each other? Yes. Had they decided to do so before arriving at the park? Probably not.


Earnest

is it possible that it was simply by chance? No. did they follow a map of the park? No. Was an announce made? No. Relevant the presence of guides in the park? No. Were visitors divided into groups and each group has a guide? No. If so, is it usual or usually people is "free" to move?

Relevant that it was a "warm and sunny day"? Yes! Could it have taken place while raining? Not this exact situation, no. With any other meteorological condition? Noish, explore.

did all visitors arrive in that specific place at the same time? separately? Did they know that all visitors were assembled in that specific place? Irr to all.

Specific place...relevant which place? Something about the location is relevant, yes. Its location inside the park? If it was near a watercourse? A mountain? A river? A forest? Yesish. A natural attraction? Irr to rest.

little WAG...was it inaugurate a special mean of transport which conducts to a specific place in the park and all visitors wanted to try it in its first ride? So they were assembled all together in the same place somehow? No, but good WAG!

[GalFisk]

Did they seek shade? Breeze? Moisture? Water? Did they gather in the only comfortable spot in the park?

[Earnest]

did they want to refresh themselves? were there other parts of the park not exposed to the Sun? Was it a sort of Safari? Did they need to follow an obliged path which has not shadowy parts? Was the park in a desert?

Was it an oasis?

[irishelk]

GalFisk

Did they seek shade? Breeze? Moisture? Water? No to all. Did they gather in the only comfortable spot in the park? Yes!


Earnest

did they want to refresh themselves? No. were there other parts of the park not exposed to the Sun? Yope. Was it a sort of Safari? No. Did they need to follow an obliged path which has not shadowy parts? Yope. Was the park in a desert? No.

[GalFisk]

Did they want to get away something? Get to something? Is hot air relavant? Heat radiating from the sun? Hot clothing? Is the heat unpleasant? Doe it cause something unpleasant? Insects relevant? Wilted grass? Fire?

[irishelk]

GalFisk

Did they want to get away from something? Yes. Get to something?
Is hot air relavant? Heat radiating from the sun? Yes, somewhat indirectly. Hot clothing? Is the heat unpleasant? No. Doe it cause something unpleasant? Yes! Insects relevant? Wilted grass? Fire? No to rest.

[Earnest]

is smell relevant (e.g. smell caused by some plant because of the temperature) ?

[JenBurdoo]

Astronomical event, such as an eclipse?

[irishelk]

Earnest

is smell relevant (e.g. smell caused by some plant because of the temperature) ? No.


JenBurdoo

Astronomical event, such as an eclipse? No, other than it being sunny.

[Earnest]

Sweating relevant? Sunglasses? Water supplies relevant? (E.g. they were all at the bar of the park) Did they need something? Were they all buying something? Were them in line? Repair from sun relevant?

[irishelk]

Earnest

Sweating relevant? Sunglasses? Water supplies relevant? (E.g. they were all at the bar of the park) Did they need something? Were they all buying something? Were them in line? Repair from sun relevant? No to all, but good ideas!

[Earnest]

Flies relevant? Animals relevant? Bees? Flowers? Pollen? Trees? Is clothing relevant?

Had them been in a street in the city, would they have suffer the same discomfort? If so, would they solve the discomfort by goibg inside a building? If not, instead, is it because of a natural element present in the park causing the discomfort due to the heat?

[irishelk]

Earnest

Flies relevant? Animals relevant? Bees? Flowers? Pollen? Trees? Is clothing relevant? No to all, actually!

Had them been in a street in the city, would they have suffer the same discomfort? Depends on circumstances but probably not to the same extent. If so, would they solve the discomfort by goibg inside a building? They could, yes. If not, instead, is it because of a natural element present in the park causing the discomfort due to the heat? Yes.

[Earnest]

Pollen relevant? Well at the beginning I was thinking to a water theme park...could it be? A park on a beach with sand and the sand was really hot due to the heat? Or is it a traditional park (grass,trees,fountains...)?

[irishelk]

Earnest

Pollen relevant? No. Well at the beginning I was thinking to a water theme park...could it be? Unlikely.
A park on a beach with sand and the sand was really hot due to the heat? No, but good idea! Somewhat along these lines. Or is it a traditional park (grass,trees,fountains...)? Yes.

[Earnest]

Is evaporation relevant? Water mirroring of the sun? Jurassic park relevant? Was sonething melting? Were they given something at the entrance of the park which could be damaged by the heat?

Does the discomfort mainly concern sneezing? Burning sensation? Eyes? I was thinking of a park with a gravelly ground so that the white reflection due to the sun was somehow discomfortable for people...

Was the natural element, apart from sun and heat, provoking the discomfort: grass? Water? Salt (a park in the salt mines)? Something on the ground? On the sky? On the trees?

[irishelk]

Earnest

Is evaporation relevant? Water mirroring of the sun? Jurassic park relevant? Was sonething melting? Yes! Were they given something at the entrance of the park which could be damaged by the heat? No to rest.

Does the discomfort mainly concern sneezing? Burning sensation? Eyes? I was thinking of a park with a gravelly ground so that the white reflection due to the sun was somehow discomfortable for people... No to these.

Was the natural element, apart from sun and heat, provoking the discomfort: grass? Water? Yesish. Salt (a park in the salt mines)? Something on the ground? On the sky? On the trees? This, good questions.

[Earnest]

Snow melting and falling from trees?

[irishelk]

Earnest

Snow melting and falling from trees? You got it. =)


**********************************************SPOILER

It is the first sunny day after a week of snow, and everyone has gone to the park to enjoy the sunshine. However, the snow is melting in huge clumps from the trees, so everyone is standing in the one area of the park with the least tree cover.

[Earnest]

Very clever and nice!

[irishelk]

Good job!