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[CoffeeBean] A Simple Question

Postby CoffeeBean » Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:15 pm

There is a curious question that is asked periodically in the United States, possibly in other countries as well...

It is a question that has only two possible answers, "yes" or "no".

The person who asks the question really does not care which answer is given.

Quite often, the person who is answering the question is in danger, sometimes losing his or her life.

The person who asks the question often finds his or her life in danger after asking it.

So, what is the question?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Simple Question

Postby Konnie » Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:06 pm

If it's okay, I'll call the person asking the question A and the person answering B.

Is A usually trying to help B by asking the question? Do they realize B is in danger? Is A normally medical personnel? Is the question to determine B's state of mind or physical state? Like, how many fingers am I holding up for example? (Obviously this isn't the question)
Is A the person putting B in danger? Is the question also a threat? Is the question normally asked between strangers or acquaintances?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Simple Question

Postby CoffeeBean » Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:25 pm

If it's okay, I'll call the person asking the question A and the person answering B. That seems ok to me!

Is A usually trying to help B by asking the question? No
Do they realize B is in danger? Yes
Is A normally medical personnel? No
Is the question to determine B's state of mind or physical state? This isn't the main reason but is a definite secondary reason
Like, how many fingers am I holding up for example? (Obviously this isn't the question) Not exactly that kind of question, but similar in the aspect that when A asks the question, he or she expects B to have a sensible answer
Is A the person putting B in danger? Sometimes
Is the question also a threat? No
Is the question normally asked between strangers or acquaintances? Good q - it could be either, but you should explore this. Most of the time though it is probably between strangers.
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Simple Question

Postby Enjay » Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:32 pm

Generally when this question is asked, has a just come across B? Have they been together for a while? Would B have just started being in danger?

If B in danger of dying from an illness? Accident? Murder? Suicide?

Would either yes or no be considered the right answer? Would the right answer sometimes be yes and sometimes no?

When A finds their life in danger, is it at the hands of A? Would they be in danger in the same way that B is?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Simple Question

Postby CoffeeBean » Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:42 pm

Generally when this question is asked, has A just come across B? Yes, almost always the case
Have they been together for a while? No Would B have just started being in danger? In most cases yes, but not necessarily

If B in danger of dying from an illness? Accident? Murder? Suicide? Not exactly any of these

Would either yes or no be considered the right answer? It doesn't matter in nearly all instances
Would the right answer sometimes be yes and sometimes no? Strictly speaking yes, but FA

When A finds their life in danger, is it at the hands of A? Do you mean B?
Would they be in danger in the same way that B is? Possibly, yes (but clarify your other question first)
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Simple Question

Postby WiZ » Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:46 pm

Are we describing some sort of first aid/emergency response situation?

Would we typically find a common profession/qualification/demographic variable among people A across the world (other than the fact that they find themselves with this particular role in this particular situation)? People B?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Simple Question

Postby Enjay » Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:56 pm

Sorry, I meant:

When A finds their life in danger, is it at the hands of B?
Would A be in danger in the same way that B is?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Simple Question

Postby Earnest » Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:08 am

Are A and B common people? Relevant their profession? Is it a secret? A State secret?
periodically = regularly? Every 5 years? Every month? Every week? Every day? Every 10 years? Every year? If the latter, the same day every year?
Is the question written? Spoken? Made in front of a jury?

Can the question be classified as an oath? Are A and B in danger for the same reason? Is A in danger because asking the question he reveal to be aware of a certain problem? Issue? suspect? Is A just legally in danger of death? For having answer the question? For having assumed a responsibility asking the question (e.g. from the moment he asks the question he is legally responsible of something/someone) Sentenced to death relevant?
Is A binder from the moment he asks the question independently from the answer of B?

Does A not care about B's answer because: B is crazy? Whatever the answer given, the consequences for A will be the same? Because the question is rhetorical? Does B usually answer the question? If so with a "yes" or a "no"?
well...little WAG but really not sure...has B often an infectious disease so that as soon as he speak, A risks to be infected (e.g. A is a priest asking forgiveness for someone's sins?)
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Simple Question

Postby CoffeeBean » Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:20 pm

Are we describing some sort of first aid/emergency response situation? No

Would we typically find a common profession/qualification/demographic variable among people A across the world (other than the fact that they find themselves with this particular role in this particular situation)? People B? Yes to both

When A finds their life in danger, is it at the hands of B? Yes
Would A be in danger in the same way that B is? Yes

Are A and B common people? Explore
Relevant their profession? A's profession is relevant, B's is not Is it a secret? A State secret? No to both
periodically = regularly? Every 5 years? Every month? Every week? Every day? Every 10 years? Every year? Impossible to say, but I'd say this happens likely at least once or twice a day somewhere in the US If the latter, the same day every year? This is not the type of thing that is a regularly planned or scheduled event, no
Is the question written? No Spoken? Yes Made in front of a jury? No

Can the question be classified as an oath? No Are A and B in danger for the same reason? No
Is A in danger because asking the question he reveal to be aware of a certain problem? Yes Issue? Yes suspect? I think so, can you rephrase this? Is A just legally in danger of death? No For having answer the question? Possibly
For having assumed a responsibility asking the question (e.g. from the moment he asks the question he is legally responsible of something/someone)
I may not understand the meaning of this question, but I'll answer by saying that when A asks the question, he potentially becomes responsible for B's death
Sentenced to death relevant? No
Is A binder from the moment he asks the question independently from the answer of B? I think so (if I correctly understand the question)

Does A not care about B's answer because: B is crazy? Not crazy, but something else causes A to not care what B says as an answer
Whatever the answer given, the consequences for A will be the same? Not for A
Because the question is rhetorical? No Does B usually answer the question? Very often yes, and for a specific reason
If so with a "yes" or a "no"? Both answers are probably given just as often - good q
well...little WAG but really not sure...has B often an infectious disease so that as soon as he speak, A risks to be infected (e.g. A is a priest asking forgiveness for someone's sins?) No but good guess
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Simple Question

Postby Balin » Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:35 pm

Is B dying of natural causes? From old age (I know that's not an official cause of death any longer, but still)?
EDIT: Is B going to die (or not going to die) regardless of the answer?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Simple Question

Postby Earnest » Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:06 pm

is A in danger depending on weather B dies or not? Has A any interest that B survives? That B dies? Can B lie? If so, does A care about this? Has a possible lie of B consequences on A? Consequences on B? Negative consequences?
Is it a personal question regarding B's personal life? Regarding B's health? Regarding B's fears? Regarding B's allergies?

Does B usually turn to A because he/she is in danger? If so, does B expect A to solve his/her problem and save him/her? Is B forced to speak to A? Is A forced to ask B the question? Is B forced to answer A?
Is A in danger being potentially responsible of B's death Just because of this?
Is A the last person B will see on earth?

A's profession = a legal profession? Is A a criminal? Is B? Is B on the run? Is A a priest? Does he work in military forces? In police? As a scientist? A doctor? Lawyer? Undertaker? Caterer? Taxi driver? Banker? Insurer? Computer scientist?

stupid WAG--> is the question simply if B is allergic to something and A took on the risk by trusting B? It could work in countries where the latter can be considered an homicide and A can be accused of homicide and sentenced to death...
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Simple Question

Postby CoffeeBean » Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:18 pm

Is B dying of natural causes? From old age (I know that's not an official cause of death any longer, but still)? No
EDIT: Is B going to die (or not going to die) regardless of the answer? If B does die, his/her death will have nothing to do with the answer he/she gave to A's question
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Simple Question

Postby CoffeeBean » Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:24 pm

is A in danger depending on weather B dies or not? Possibly, yes
Has A any interest that B survives? That B dies? Either could be possible but usually A wants B to survive
Can B lie? Sure! And...If so, does A care about this?...yes, very much!
Has a possible lie of B consequences on A? No, but...Consequences on B?...Yes! And... Negative consequences?...yes, almost always!
Is it a personal question regarding B's personal life? Regarding B's health? Regarding B's fears? Regarding B's allergies? No to all

Does B usually turn to A because he/she is in danger? No
If so, does B expect A to solve his/her problem and save him/her? No
Is B forced to speak to A? Yes - good q
Is A forced to ask B the question? No, but...Is B forced to answer A?...yes.
Is A in danger being potentially responsible of B's death Just because of this? Yes, it's related
Is A the last person B will see on earth? Very likely so, if certain things happen - good q

A's profession = a legal profession? Yes Is A a criminal? No, but...Is B?...yes, B is. Is B on the run? In some cases yes, but not always Is A a priest? Does he work in military forces? In police? THIS As a scientist? A doctor? Lawyer? Undertaker? Caterer? Taxi driver? Banker? Insurer? Computer scientist?

stupid WAG--> is the question simply if B is allergic to something and A took on the risk by trusting B? No It could work in countries where the latter can be considered an homicide and A can be accused of homicide and sentenced to death...
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Simple Question

Postby Earnest » Tue Nov 14, 2017 5:09 pm

is it a classical interrogatory? If so, is the question made at the beginning of the interrogatory? During it? At the end?
Is the crime of B's category relevant? Is B suspected of homicide? Theft? Rape? Fraud? Drugs selling?

Is the question something about "confessing the crime"? About something that could aggravate the position of B in legal terms? e.g. possession of a weapon during a theft?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Simple Question

Postby Enjay » Tue Nov 14, 2017 5:23 pm

Are lie detectors relevant?

Is the question about the crime B committed? Does B know that A doesn't care what they answer? Do they give an answer because they think it will make them more likely to get away with the crime? Because they think A may hurt them if they don't?

When B answers either yes or no, do they usually lie? Do they answer what they believe to be the most accurate answer? Would Bs in some situations believe that yes was the best answer, while Bs in other situations would believe it is no?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Simple Question

Postby CoffeeBean » Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:22 pm

Is it a classical interrogatory? No If so, is the question made at the beginning of the interrogatory? During it? At the end?
Is the crime of B's category relevant? No Is B suspected of homicide? Theft? Rape? Fraud? Drugs selling? Any of these are possible

Is the question something about "confessing the crime"? No
About something that could aggravate the position of B in legal terms? e.g. possession of a weapon during a theft? No

Are lie detectors relevant? No

Is the question about the crime B committed? No Does B know that A doesn't care what they answer? Usually no
Do they give an answer because they think it will make them more likely to get away with the crime? No
Because they think A may hurt them if they don't? Potentially, yes, as well as another consequence they want to avoid

When B answers either yes or no, do they usually lie? Possible, but it doesn't matter
Do they answer what they believe to be the most accurate answer? Sometimes, but other times they may simply not know
Would Bs in some situations believe that yes was the best answer, while Bs in other situations would believe it is no? Good q - based on their experience and possible knowledge of other A-B encounters, they may feel led to give a "better" answer
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Simple Question

Postby biograd » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:09 pm

So from the answer of "could be any" to the list of crimes presented above, I'm gathering the situation is not when a drunk driver is pulled over and asked "Have you been drinking?".

That was my first thought to what's going on--a drunk driver is (often) risking his or her life, and when asked "have you been drinking", it matters less what the answer is than whether the asker smells alcohol on the person's breath or whether the person's speech is slurred. I don't know about the asker's life being in danger, but if the drunk is especially belligerent then it's possible he/she will attack.

Anyway, since it seems it's not that, is the person being asked under oath? Is A's life literally in danger, i.e. A may die? Or, is it just A's livelihood that's in danger (i.e. a lawyer who may lose his/her license)?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Simple Question

Postby Earnest » Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:52 am

Is the question done after the criminal has been arrested? Before? During the arrest? Is the policeman in service when asking the question? Does the criminal know that A is a policeman? (E.g. a policeman who hides his identity as policement to arrest the criminal and so making the question reveal somehow himself/herself as policeman)
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Simple Question

Postby CoffeeBean » Wed Nov 15, 2017 3:34 pm

So from the answer of "could be any" to the list of crimes presented above, I'm gathering the situation is not when a drunk driver is pulled over and asked "Have you been drinking?". No, but the question could be asked in this situation, although probably less likely

That was my first thought to what's going on--a drunk driver is (often) risking his or her life, and when asked "have you been drinking", it matters less what the answer is than whether the asker smells alcohol on the person's breath or whether the person's speech is slurred. I don't know about the asker's life being in danger, but if the drunk is especially belligerent then it's possible he/she will attack. Sort of OTRT track here - the question isn't usually asked of drunk drivers, but the same situation exists in which the police ask the question simply to see what kind of response they get

Anyway, since it seems it's not that, is the person being asked under oath? No
Is A's life literally in danger, i.e. A may die? In many cases yes
Or, is it just A's livelihood that's in danger (i.e. a lawyer who may lose his/her license)? No

Is the question done after the criminal has been arrested? Before? During the arrest? Before
Is the policeman in service when asking the question? Yes
Does the criminal know that A is a policeman? Yes, there is no doubt
(E.g. a policeman who hides his identity as policement to arrest the criminal and so making the question reveal somehow himself/herself as policeman) No, B is fully aware that A is a police officer, even before A asks the question
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Simple Question

Postby Enjay » Wed Nov 15, 2017 3:52 pm

If B dies, would it be at the hands of A? Another police officer? Another criminal? Themselves?

Is A likely to ever refer back to B's answer to the question? Tell anyone else what B said?

If A asked the question, but couldn't hear B's response for some reason, would that mater? Would A's purpose have been served just by asking or would they need to know what B said?

Is the purpose of asking the question to make B think? Make them stop? Calm them down? Give them a chance to get out of trouble? Is it a warning? Is it a leading question ("Have you stopped beating your wife?")

Could B sometimes refuse to answer? If they did would the consequences be worse than if they answered either yes or no?

Is there anything relevant that connects Bs except that they are all criminals of some type?

Is it relevant how serious their crime is? Might a policeman ask this to someone they have found littering? Shoplifting? Taking drugs? Selling drugs? Stealing a car? Beating someone up? Standing over a dead body with a knife in their hands?

Might someone other than a policeman ask this question? Might a parent ask it to a chid they have found being naughty (hopefully without the danger of death part...)? Might a teacher ask it to a student? Might an ordinary citizen who has come across a criminal ask it?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Simple Question

Postby CoffeeBean » Wed Nov 15, 2017 4:44 pm

If B dies, would it be at the hands of A? Yes, or... Another police officer? ...could be this too. Another criminal? Themselves? Not likely to be either of these

Is A likely to ever refer back to B's answer to the question? Usually not Tell anyone else what B said? Not likely

If A asked the question, but couldn't hear B's response for some reason, would that matter? This could have a very negative effect on B, yes
Would A's purpose have been served just by asking or would they need to know what B said? Good q - A serves most of his/her purpose just by asking the question. They expect to get a response but they really aren't interested in the exact verbal response they get

Is the purpose of asking the question to make B think? Yes, this is part of it but there's more
Make them stop? Stop what? Calm them down? It could have this effect
Give them a chance to get out of trouble? Yes, for sure Is it a warning? Not really, but...Is it a leading question ("Have you stopped beating your wife?") ...yes, I'd say that it is this kind of question, in that more questions will follow

Could B sometimes refuse to answer? Sure If they did would the consequences be worse than if they answered either yes or no? Yes, this would be almost certain

Is there anything relevant that connects Bs except that they are all criminals of some type? Yes, one relevant common factor

Is it relevant how serious their crime is? Somewhat (keep reading)
Might a policeman ask this to someone they have found littering? Yes, for a relevant reason
Shoplifting? Not likely, unless there were other factors to be considered Taking drugs? Possibly Selling drugs? Possibly
Stealing a car? Yes! Pretty much guaranteed!
Beating someone up? Standing over a dead body with a knife in their hands? No, the question would not be appropriate or make any sense in these scenarios

Might someone other than a policeman ask this question? Sure, in fact my brother in law asked me this exact question just a few months ago (but he's not a cop and I'm no criminal)
Might a parent ask it to a child Sure, but... they have found being naughty (hopefully without the danger of death part...)? ...it wouldn't have anything to do with the child's behaviour
Might a teacher ask it to a student? No Might an ordinary citizen who has come across a criminal ask it? Ah, good q - no, they wouldn't have any reason to ask it. In the situation in which this question is most commonly asked of criminals, it is only by police officers and in specific situations in which they encounter criminals (see above)
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Simple Question

Postby Earnest » Wed Nov 15, 2017 5:51 pm

Is it a sort of sentence policeman are legally binded to ask? Is the question asked while the criminal is stealing the car (taking it as the crime?)?

Is the question of the type: "can you show me...?"? Is the question an order more than a question? Like: "would you like to stop?"
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Simple Question

Postby CoffeeBean » Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:15 pm

Is it a sort of sentence policeman are legally binded to ask? No
Is the question asked while the criminal is stealing the car (taking it as the crime?)? Yes, would certainly be asked during the commission of this type of crime

Is the question of the type: "can you show me...?"? Is the question an order more than a question? Like: "would you like to stop?" No, it's not an order or a request
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Simple Question

Postby Balin » Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:20 pm

Does the policeman ask the criminal to do something? To show his hands?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Simple Question

Postby CoffeeBean » Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:39 pm

Does the policeman ask the criminal to do something? To show his hands? No, it isn't this type of question
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Simple Question

Postby Enjay » Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:52 pm

Would the question always be asked with the same wording? Is it asking the criminal something about themselves? About the crime? About the police officer?

Is the common factor with Bs connected to: their age? sex? where they live? Occupation? Their physical appearance? Health? Relevant whether the criminal is armed?

Wild guess - is the question "do you speak English?" ...although I suppose anyone for whom the answer is no wouldn't answer...
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Simple Question

Postby CoffeeBean » Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:28 pm

Would the question always be asked with the same wording? Yes, it's always the exact same
Is it asking the criminal something about themselves? Yes, but about something else specific
About the crime? No About the police officer? No

Is the common factor with Bs connected to: their age? sex? where they live? Occupation? Their physical appearance? Health? None of these Relevant whether the criminal is armed? Yes, or rather if the officer believes he/she may be armed

Wild guess - is the question "do you speak English?" ...although I suppose anyone for whom the answer is no wouldn't answer... Not this
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Simple Question

Postby Enjay » Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:05 am

Would a policeman ask this question to someone who they believe is armed? Isn't armed?

Is the potential danger that A is in the possibility that B might be armed and shoot A?

Is the question about whether they are armed? Something about the weapon the policeman believes they may have?

Is the question designed to buy time? To stop the person from shooting? To establish if the person is armed? To stop them fleeing?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Simple Question

Postby Earnest » Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:27 am

To be sure...I'm assumin the car of the criminal B is stopped right? Or also if B is fleeing?

Does A fake not to know that B has stolen a car when asking the question?
Does the question inequivocably reveal that A is aware that B is armed? If so does B kmow it?

Does the question allow the policeman to undertake a certain action?
Is it certainly asked when a car is stolen because policeman cannot see weather the driver is armed being the car driver sit? Cannot see his/hermovements?

Is the question about the car? About the man? About something visible in the car? About something present in the car but not visible to the policeman? Does it allow the policeman to arrest B?

Something to see weather B has a certain characteristic?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Simple Question

Postby CoffeeBean » Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:14 pm

Would a policeman ask this question to someone who they believe is armed? Isn't armed? Either, but they are more likely to ask if they believe the person is armed

Is the potential danger that A is in the possibility that B might be armed and shoot A? Yes

Is the question about whether they are armed? No Something about the weapon the policeman believes they may have? No

Is the question designed to buy time? In a way, yes To stop the person from shooting? In a way, yes To establish if the person is armed? In a way, yes To stop them fleeing? In a way, yes

To be sure...I'm assuming the car of the criminal B is stopped right? Yes, this question is asked by a police officer once they have stopped a suspected or known criminal in a car Or also if B is fleeing? The person (B) could be a fugitive (fleeing the law), and once they were stopped by police the police could very well ask this question

Does A fake not to know that B has stolen a car when asking the question? Yes
Does the question inequivocably reveal that A is aware that B is armed? If so does B know it? No, the question doesn't give any indication that the officer suspects that B is armed

Does the question allow the policeman to undertake a certain action? YES
Is it certainly asked when a car is stolen because policeman cannot see weather the driver is armed being the car driver sit? Cannot see his/her movements? YES - part of the reason the police ask the question is to try to detect weather or not the driver or someone else in the car is armed and/or to monitor their movements

Is the question about the car? YES About the man? Yes but not directly About something visible in the car? Not in the car exactly, but something visible about the car, yes
About something present in the car but not visible to the policeman? No it is visible to him
Does it allow the policeman to arrest B? This alone does not, but the question is often asked before actions that lead to an arrest

Something to see weather B has a certain characteristic? Yes, the officer (A) is looking for certain characteristics of B when he/she asks the question
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Simple Question

Postby Enjay » Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:07 pm

Does the policeman ask the criminal if he (the policeman) can do something? Like "Can I come into the car"?

Does the question relate to who the car belongs to? To whether the driver has a licence?

Is being in a car the relevant thing that Bs all have in common?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Simple Question

Postby Earnest » Fri Nov 17, 2017 11:39 am

so it i not a request nor an order, does it work also when the suspect B transport someone(an accomplice?) else in the front seat? In the back seat? Is it something visible to A but not visible to B? Is it meant to situations in which A suspects that B which is a passenger forces another person (hostage/victim) to drive the car?
Is the question something that force the answerer to open the machine door like: "Do you know that you have a flat tire?"
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Simple Question

Postby CoffeeBean » Fri Nov 17, 2017 3:01 pm

Does the policeman ask the criminal if he (the policeman) can do something? Like "Can I come into the car"? No, not this kind of question

Does the question relate to who the car belongs to? To whether the driver has a licence? No to both

Is being in a car the relevant thing that Bs all have in common? Yes

So it is not a request nor an order, does it work also when the suspect B transport someone(an accomplice?) else in the front seat? In the back seat? Yes, this question would be asked if the police suspected this
Is it something visible to A but not visible to B? Yes
Is it meant to situations in which A suspects that B which is a passenger forces another person (hostage/victim) to drive the car? It is used in other less hostile situations, but could very well be asked in this kind of situation
Is the question something that force the answerer to open the machine door like: "Do you know that you have a flat tire?" YES, it is this kind of question! It does not concern the tires, but you are very close! And the person in the car does not have to necessarily open the door, in fact the police officer would probably prefer that they didn't open the door until he/she has been able to do something first (which is why they ask the question)
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Simple Question

Postby Earnest » Fri Nov 17, 2017 4:55 pm

wow ok very excited about that...so...mmm...something like a question about an electronically part that can be controlled by the driver? e.g. "do you know that your lights are turned off/broken?"; "do you know that one of your stop arrows (hope it is clear) doesn't work properly?"..."do you know that the insurance of the car ran out?" (so that he is forced to open the dashboard)
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Simple Question

Postby CoffeeBean » Fri Nov 17, 2017 9:02 pm

Wow ok very excited about that...so...mmm...something like a question about an electronically part that can be controlled by the driver? e.g. "do you know that your lights are turned off/broken?"; "do you know that one of your stop arrows (hope it is clear) doesn't work properly?" YES

..."do you know that the insurance of the car ran out?" (so that he is forced to open the dashboard)


**** SPOILER ****

Recently a friend who is a police officer was talking about traffic laws and when the police will stop drivers for certain infractions. He said that even though people think that the police will pull any driver over for having a broken taillight, this is usually only done when police see a vehicle on the road that has been reported stolen or connected with a crime. Especially when the police suspect that the driver or passenger(s) may be armed, they do not want to cause immediate alarm after the car is pulled over. So instead of approaching the vehicle demanding that the passengers exit (which could endanger the officer) or acknowledging that they believe the vehicle is stolen or that the driver may be running from the law, the officer will simply approach as if it is a routine stop. The officer will ask, "Are you aware that your tail light/turn signal is broken?" The officer does not really care what the answer is, because while they are asking the question and waiting on an answer, they are looking at the body language of the driver and any passengers that may indicate they wish to harm the officer. When the person speaks, the officer is considering the tone of voice and still looking around the inside of the vehicle to determine if he/she is in danger. In many cases, even if the person in the car is a criminal and/or running from the police, they will not act violently if they think they have been stopped because of a broken light. Another advantage of this tactic is that before the suspect car stops, the officer requests backup, so while he is taking the time to talk to the driver about the light, other officers are on the way and will arrive to apprehend the suspect(s) hopefully without endangering any of the police.

When a friend of mine was in his early 20's, he was driving to his house very late one night and was stopped by an officer. The officer asked him why he was out so late at night driving by himself and wanted to know if he lived in the area (he did). While my friend was answering the officer's questions, two more patrol cars arrived and parked next to and in front of my friend's car. Shortly after that, my friend was told to get out of his car and get into one of the patrol cars. He did, and an officer also got into the car and talked to him for several minutes. It turned out that a car that matched the description of my friend's car had been stolen that day, and police were searching for it. In order to verify that my friend wasn't driving the stolen car they had to inspect the car and ask him some questions, but apparently the procedure used by police is to never have just one officer do this, they wait until a few others arrive in case they have located an armed and dangerous suspect.


Good work by Earnest and team!
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Simple Question

Postby Earnest » Sat Nov 18, 2017 8:51 am

Nice puzzle and tactic!!!
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Simple Question

Postby irishelk » Sat Nov 18, 2017 7:22 pm

Sorry I missed this one, great idea for a puzzle!
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