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[GalFisk] Pig

PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 3:20 pm
by GalFisk
The pain starts when the squealing stops.

Re: [GalFisk] Pig

PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:18 pm
by KingLouie
Pain = physical pain? emotional anguish? to a person? to an animal? a pig?
Pain due to injury? If so, cause relevant?

Squealing = animal noises? machinery noises? Machinery failure relevant?

Re: [GalFisk] Pig

PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:25 pm
by GalFisk
Pain = physical pain? This. emotional anguish? to a person? This. to an animal? a pig?
Pain due to injury? No. If so, cause relevant? Yes.

Squealing = animal noises? machinery noises? Machinery failure relevant? No to all.

Re: [GalFisk] Pig

PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:30 pm
by invisiblemimsy
Squealing = some kind of sound?
Is this a health issue or physical condition?
Is it a human thing, an animal thing, or something else?
In the real world or fictional?

Re: [GalFisk] Pig

PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:23 pm
by GalFisk
Squealing = some kind of sound? Yes.
Is this a health issue or physical condition? No.
Is it a human thing Yes, an animal thing No., or something else? And yes.
In the real world Yes or fictional? No.

Re: [GalFisk] Pig

PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:39 pm
by invisiblemimsy
Is this horrible? Does it have the potential to make us feel squeamish or upset?

Re: [GalFisk] Pig

PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:04 pm
by Enjay
Is the definition of squeal meaning inform on someone relevant?

Re: [GalFisk] Pig

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:01 am
by GalFisk
Is this horrible? No. Does it have the potential to make us feel squeamish or upset? No.

Is the definition of squeal meaning inform on someone relevant? No.

Re: [GalFisk] Pig

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:13 am
by Earnest
Squealing = by a person? If so the same who will suffer the pain? Was the squaling an armonic noise? A disarmonic noise?( = strange question...I am thibking for instance to an opera singer which makes an armonic sound with his voice while screaming somehow, against soneone who have fear and squeals randomly with a diarmonic sound)

Is the squaling mainly provoked by fear? Other emotions?
Physical pain = an intolerable pain? Just a small pain? Is the pain provoked by someoen? Did he know that he would have incur in some pain after the squealing? Was him required to squeal? Are doctors relevant? Is the physical pain in a specific part of his/her body? List of body parts if allowed.

Is there someone else with him? Was the squealing heard by anyone? Did he get stuck somewhere and the rescuer used a tool to save him? Was he/she indoor? Outdoor? Did the pain last for minutes? Seconds? Did the pain laid any physical evidence (e.g. a little hole, a scar...?)? Did the pain begin because the squealing stopped?

Re: [GalFisk] Pig

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:53 pm
by invisiblemimsy
Is the physical and emotional pain experience by the same person?
Does it follow some bad news? Grief?
Does this involve some kind of self-harm, albeit not involving actual physical injury?
Is the pain actual pain, or lateral pain?
WAG, the squealing of wheels?

Re: [GalFisk] Pig

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:18 pm
by GalFisk
Squealing = by a person? Noish. If so the same who will suffer the pain? Yes. Was the squaling an armonic noise? No. A disarmonic noise?( = strange question...I am thibking for instance to an opera singer which makes an armonic sound with his voice while screaming somehow, against soneone who have fear and squeals randomly with a diarmonic sound) It's disharmonic. Your examples are OTWT.

Is the squaling mainly provoked by fear? Other emotions? No to both.
Physical pain = an intolerable pain? No. Just a small pain? Yes. Is the pain provoked by someoen? No(ish). Did he know that he would have incur in some pain after the squealing? The question implies the person is male, which is correct. Also, he knew that there was a risk of pain.
Is there someone else with him? Irr. Was the squealing heard by anyone? Irr. Did he get stuck somewhere and the rescuer used a tool to save him? No. Was he/she indoor? Yes. Outdoor? No. Did the pain last for minutes? Seconds? Less than a second. Did the pain laid any physical evidence (e.g. a little hole, a scar...?)? No. Did the pain begin because the squealing stopped? Laterally, yes.


Is the physical and emotional pain experience by the same person? There is only physical pain.
Does it follow some bad news? Grief? No.
Does this involve some kind of self-harm, albeit not involving actual physical injury? No.
Is the pain actual pain, or lateral pain? Actual.
WAG, the squealing of wheels? No, but OTRTish.

Re: [GalFisk] Pig

PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:53 am
by KingLouie
Is it talking about going home or visiting someone's home? Was the squealing a greeting by someone there? which he knew by habit that roughly when the squealing stopped would come some punch, striking with an object, etc. that accompanied the greeting (but was painful too)?

Re: [GalFisk] Pig

PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 7:07 am
by GalFisk
Is it talking about going home or visiting someone's home? Was the squealing a greeting by someone there? which he knew by habit that roughly when the squealing stopped would come some punch, striking with an object, etc. that accompanied the greeting (but was painful too)?
No to all.

Re: [GalFisk] Pig

PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:23 am
by Earnest
Was the squealing connected to something used on the body of the man? (E.g. dentist using a tool, tattoo

Re: [GalFisk] Pig

PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:28 am
by GalFisk
Was the squealing connected to something used on the body of the man? (E.g. dentist using a tool, tattoo) Yesish, but not like the examples.

Re: [GalFisk] Pig

PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:34 am
by Earnest
...was the squaling object a tool connected to a profession? Was it used in a specific part of the man's body? If so can I invoke the list of body parts?

Is the squealing somehow telling that the tool is not yet in contact with the body and thus the man is preparing to "suffer" as soon as the squaling stop? Does the squealing stop when the pain begin and start again once the pain stops?
Nails relevant? Eyes? Teeth? Is the pain provoked by the object that squeals? If so does blood flow away once the pain is provoked? Is something related to medicine? Entertainment? Enter in a country? Something usually done while standing? While sitting?

Is this routine (squealing no pain, stop squaling pain) normal for what the man was doing?
Is the pain the main "emotion" he was feeling in that moment?

Re: [GalFisk] Pig

PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:39 pm
by invisiblemimsy
Another meaning of the word 'pig', such as 'policeman' or another word? Or is the title not relevant to the puzzle? Emotional anguish to HAM, HAF, HCM, HCF? Caused by another person, same Q?
Is this ear pain, or disco, musical instrument, machine, fingernails, vehicle, laser, brakes? Does it cause injury?

Re: [GalFisk] Pig

PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:36 pm
by GalFisk
...was the squaling object a tool connected to a profession? No. Was it used in a specific part of the man's body? Yes. If so can I invoke the list of body parts? Feet.

Is the squealing somehow telling that the tool is not yet in contact with the body and thus the man is preparing to "suffer" as soon as the squaling stop? No. Does the squealing stop when the pain begin and start again once the pain stops? Yesish - they are mutually exclusive.
Nails relevant? Eyes? Teeth? No to all. Is the pain provoked by the object that squeals? Yes. If so does blood flow away once the pain is provoked? No. Is something related to medicine? Entertainment? Enter in a country? No to all. Something usually done while standing? Yes(ish). While sitting? No.

Is this routine (squealing no pain, stop squaling pain) normal for what the man was doing? No.
Is the pain the main "emotion" he was feeling in that moment? Yes, physical pain.

Another meaning of the word 'pig', such as 'policeman' or another word? No. Or is the title not relevant to the puzzle? No. Emotional anguish to HAM, HAF, HCM, HCF? No emotional anguish is relevant. HAM gets the physical pain. Caused by another person, same Q? Same HAM causes the pain, inadvertantly.
Is this ear pain, or disco, musical instrument, machine, fingernails, vehicle, laser, brakes? No to all. Does it cause injury? No.

Re: [GalFisk] Pig

PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:23 am
by KingLouie
Something squealing, so HAM kicks it to get it to stop, hurting his foot?

Re: [GalFisk] Pig

PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:25 am
by GalFisk
Something squealing, so HAM kicks it to get it to stop, hurting his foot? No.

Re: [GalFisk] Pig

PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:08 am
by Earnest
Shoes relevant? Barefeet? Can it be done while lying? Is it mainly done while lying? Physical pain on a specific part of the feet? Relevant? Relevant wheather he moved his feet or not?

Is him a model and the squealing was the squaling of the lathe used by the artist taking the plaster mold of his feet? Wheb the squaling stops is a substance put on the man's feet? Is it the squaling of the flash of a camera? The squealing of a planer? Callus relevant?

Re: [GalFisk] Pig

PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 3:22 pm
by GalFisk
Shoes relevant? Yes. Barefeet? No. Can it be done while lying? Is it mainly done while lying? No to both. Physical pain on a specific part of the feet? No, not on the feet at all. Relevant? Yes. Relevant wheather he moved his feet or not? Yes.

Is him a model and the squealing was the squaling of the lathe used by the artist taking the plaster mold of his feet? No. Wheb the squaling stops is a substance put on the man's feet? No. Is it the squaling of the flash of a camera? The squealing of a planer? Callus relevant? No to all.

Re: [GalFisk] Pig

PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 6:28 pm
by biograd
So the squealing object contacted the man's feet? but the pain wasn't felt in the feet? but in another body part? If so in the legs? the back? somewhere else?

Was the squealing object moving? under its own power (for example, like an escalator)? or was he moving relative to the object, which was stationary (for instance sliding on a wet floor)?

Was the squealing created by the friction of his shoes against the object? by the friction of different parts of the object against each other?

When the squealing stopped and the pain started, did this result from his shoes no longer contacting the object? from the fact that he was no longer slipping relative to the object? Did the pain result from a sudden acceleration (or deceleration) of his body (either directly from a force on his legs, or by him falling over)?

Re: [GalFisk] Pig

PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 6:37 pm
by Earnest
Wag...was the man riding a cyclette/bycicle?

Was the man able to stop the squealing whenever he wanted? Does the man provoke the squealing usong his feet and stop the squealing using his feet? Does the pain derive from the fact that he stops doing something?

Re: [GalFisk] Pig

PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:18 pm
by GalFisk
So the squealing object contacted the man's feet? Yes. but the pain wasn't felt in the feet? Correct. but in another body part? Yes. If so in the legs? No. the back? No. somewhere else? Yes.

Was the squealing object moving? Yes. under its own power (for example, like an escalator)? No. or was he moving relative to the object, which was stationary (for instance sliding on a wet floor)? No, but OTRT.

Was the squealing created by the friction of his shoes against the object? Yes. by the friction of different parts of the object against each other? No.

When the squealing stopped and the pain started, did this result from his shoes no longer contacting the object? No. from the fact that he was no longer slipping relative to the object? No. Did the pain result from a sudden acceleration (or deceleration) of his body (either directly from a force on his legs, or by him falling over)? No.


Wag...was the man riding a cyclette/bycicle? No.

Was the man able to stop the squealing whenever he wanted? No. Does the man provoke the squealing usong his feet Yes. and stop the squealing using his feet? Often, but not necessarily. Does the pain derive from the fact that he stops doing something? No.

Re: [GalFisk] Pig

PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:31 pm
by biograd
Was he moving the object with his feet? otherwise with his body? Did the pain result from the movement of the squealing object? from the position in which he needed to hold/move his body in order to stop the squealing?

You said that he couldn't stop the squealing whenever he wanted. Is this because he didn't realize where the squealing was coming from, and what caused it to stop? because he was not strong enough? because he was trapped/stuck somehow?

Had he removed his shoes and socks, would the pain have then been on his feet instead?

Re: [GalFisk] Pig

PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:42 pm
by GalFisk
Was he moving the object with his feet? Yes. otherwise with his body? No. Did the pain result from the movement of the squealing object? Yope. from the position in which he needed to hold/move his body in order to stop the squealing? No.

You said that he couldn't stop the squealing whenever he wanted. Is this because he didn't realize where the squealing was coming from, and what caused it to stop? No, he knew. because he was not strong enough? Not this. because he was trapped/stuck somehow? No.

Had he removed his shoes and socks, would the pain have then been on his feet instead? No.

Re: [GalFisk] Pig

PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:56 pm
by biograd
Was he kicking the object? dragging it along the ground? pressing it like a pedal?

Speaking of the last option, did his moving the object with his feet control another object? another moving object? If so, was it the object being controlled that caused the pain?

Could he not stop the squealing at will because it would have caused something worse to happen to him? because he was forbidden to do so?

Re: [GalFisk] Pig

PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:12 pm
by GalFisk
Was he kicking the object? dragging it along the ground? pressing it like a pedal? No to all.

Speaking of the last option, did his moving the object with his feet control another object? No. another moving object? No (ish). If so, was it the object being controlled that caused the pain? No.

Could he not stop the squealing at will because it would have caused something worse to happen to him? No.because he was forbidden to do so? No.

Re: [GalFisk] Pig

PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:04 am
by Earnest
Is it the squaling of the feet with the floor?
When the squealing stops, does the man fall? Was he using a gym's tool? Does the man have the shoes untied? Is something "rolling" under his feet?

When the squealing stops, does the man need not to lose balance? To use another tool to stop? To perform some action in order to avoid an even higher physical pain than the one he suffers? Is the physical pain in a finger? Head?

Re: [GalFisk] Pig

PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:02 am
by GalFisk
Is it the squaling of the feet with the floor? Yesish.
When the squealing stops, does the man fall? No. Was he using a gym's tool? No. Does the man have the shoes untied? No. Is something "rolling" under his feet? No.

When the squealing stops, does the man need not to lose balance? Not any more or less than before.To use another tool to stop? No. To perform some action in order to avoid an even higher physical pain than the one he suffers? No. Is the physical pain in a finger? Yes. Head? No.

Re: [GalFisk] Pig

PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:02 pm
by invisiblemimsy
Was the object a machine of some kind? A pottery wheel? A sewing machine?

Re: [GalFisk] Pig

PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:39 pm
by Earnest
Wag --> Rapunzel relevant?

Re: [GalFisk] Pig

PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 3:15 pm
by GalFisk
Was the object a machine of some kind? A pottery wheel? A sewing machine? No to all.

Wag --> Rapunzel relevant? No.

Re: [GalFisk] Pig

PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 3:36 pm
by Earnest
Ok...finger of the hand I suppose, right? Only a finger? All hand? Palm? Relevant which specific finger? Skateboarding relevant? Any relevant sport? Weightlifting? ...did he use the feet as somehow a lever to help himself lifting sonething? Doing something?

Re: [GalFisk] Pig

PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 3:42 pm
by GalFisk
Ok...finger of the hand I suppose, right? Yes. Only a finger? Yes. All hand? No. Palm? No. Relevant which specific finger? Probably not.Skateboarding relevant? Any relevant sport? Weightlifting? No to all. ...did he use the feet as somehow a lever to help himself lifting sonething? Doing something? No to both.

Re: [GalFisk] Pig

PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 4:52 pm
by Earnest
Physical pain on the finger = the finger is pressed? He bites his finger? A sting on the finger? Relevant which part of the finger? The side of the finger? The end? Is the man working? Is he handling some tool? Vacuum cleaner relevant? Did he need to keep a button pressed with the finger?

Re: [GalFisk] Pig

PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 5:55 pm
by GalFisk
Physical pain on the finger = the finger is pressed? He bites his finger? A sting on the finger?No to all. Relevant which part of the finger? Yes. The side of the finger? The end? This, most likely. Is the man working? Yes. Is he handling some tool? Vacuum cleaner relevant? Did he need to keep a button pressed with the finger? No to all.

Re: [GalFisk] Pig

PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:10 am
by KingLouie
Static electricity relevant?

Re: [GalFisk] Pig

PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:14 am
by GalFisk
Static electricity relevant? Yes.

Re: [GalFisk] Pig

PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:39 am
by GalFisk
Hint: the static electricity causes the pain.

Re: [GalFisk] Pig

PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:28 am
by biograd
Does the rubbing of the feet cause the buildup of static electricity? Possibly something squeaky sticks to his feet by means of static electricity, and then he touches something causing the energy to discharge, which zaps the finger but gets whatever it is unstuck?

This puzzle makes me think of this. His feet don't squeal and his fingers don't get shocked (though another guy's finger does!), but it's sure funny anyway:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_cDB2pR6eY

Re: [GalFisk] Pig

PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 8:04 am
by GalFisk
Does the rubbing of the feet cause the buildup of static electricity? Yesish. Possibly something squeaky sticks to his feet by means of static electricity, No. and then he touches something causing the energy to discharge, Yes. which zaps the finger Yes. but gets whatever it is unstuck? No.

This puzzle makes me think of this. His feet don't squeal and his fingers don't get shocked (though another guy's finger does!), but it's sure funny anyway:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_cDB2pR6eY Funny!

Re: [GalFisk] Pig

PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 1:56 am
by Hobbsicle
So the squealing and the static electric shock are mutually exclusive?
So he wouldn't be able to touch something while it is squealing? Or wouldn't have the static buildup?

And I've gotten thoroughly muddled reading through the questions about the feet, so I'm going to do some rehashing here:
He is wearing shoes, as in normal, everyday shoes?
He is standing(ish)?
There is something below him that he is standing on? Or otherwise in contact with via feet? That is more than just ground? And that thing makes the squealing?
Is he moving relative to the ground?
Is he moving relative to the squealing thing?
The squealing is related to friction?
Between his feet and whatever his feet are touching?
Between whatever his feet are touching and the ground?

Re: [GalFisk] Pig

PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 3:33 am
by KayleeArafinwiel
Is an actual pig involved at all, or am I OTWT?
Touching a car door or other metal object while getting out of a car relevant?

Re: [GalFisk] Pig

PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 7:04 am
by GalFisk
So the squealing and the static electric shock are mutually exclusive? Yes.
So he wouldn't be able to touch something while it is squealing? Irr. Or wouldn't have the static buildup? Correct.

And I've gotten thoroughly muddled reading through the questions about the feet, so I'm going to do some rehashing here:
He is wearing shoes, as in normal, everyday shoes? Yes.
He is standing(ish)? Yes, see below.
There is something below him that he is standing on? Yes. Or otherwise in contact with via feet? Via shoes, to be precise. That is more than just ground? Yes. And that thing makes the squealing? That and the shoes combined, and something else.
Is he moving relative to the ground? Yes - walking.
Is he moving relative to the squealing thing? See above.
The squealing is related to friction? Yes.
Between his feet and whatever his feet are touching?
Between whatever his feet are touching and the ground? Between his shoes and what he is walking on, plus something else.


Is an actual pig involved at all, or am I OTWT? OTWT.
Touching a car door or other metal object while getting out of a car relevant? No.

Re: [GalFisk] Pig

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:54 pm
by irishelk
Is the other thing relevant to the static build-up: carpet? grass? other plant material? his socks? a blanket/bedding? is he walking on something unusual?

Would it help to figure out what he is doing generally? If so, is he at work? At home? in the gym? Relevantly around other people?

Is he intending to build up static?

Re: [GalFisk] Pig

PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:45 am
by GalFisk
Is the other thing relevant to the static build-up: carpet? grass? other plant material? his socks? a blanket/bedding? No to all. is he walking on something unusual? No, but knowing what he's walking on will help.

Would it help to figure out what he is doing generally? Yes. If so, is he at work? This. At home? in the gym? Relevantly around other people?

Is he intending to build up static? No, he'd like it to never happen.

Re: [GalFisk] Pig

PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2018 8:45 am
by GalFisk
Recap: a man is at work. When he walks on a surface, his shoes and something else produce a squealing sound against the surface.
Eventually the squealing sound stops, and the man then experiences static buildup and painful electric shocks.
It is not easy or convenient to make the squealing sound start and the static buildup stop.

To be determined: what surface is he walking on? It's not an unusual surface.
What, apart from the shoes and surface, makes the squealing sound?

Re: [GalFisk] Pig

PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:13 pm
by irishelk
Is the squealing produced by something else contacting the ground? A part of his clothing? Does he have a cane? Is it squeaky wheels? Of a walker? Or a wheelchair?

Is he on carpet? Linoleum? Rubber? Wood? Tile?

Re: [GalFisk] Pig

PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 5:40 pm
by wolfier
chairs relevant?

Re: [GalFisk] Pig

PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:16 pm
by GalFisk
Is the squealing produced by something else contacting the ground? Yesish, explore. A part of his clothing? No. Does he have a cane? Is it squeaky wheels? Of a walker? Or a wheelchair? No to all.

Is he on carpet? No. Linoleum? Linoleum or vinyl. Rubber? Wood? Tile? No to all.


chairs relevant? No.

Re: [GalFisk] Pig

PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:45 am
by wolfier
is the squealing produced by liquid between his shoes and the linoleum floor? if so, is the liquid introduced with the intention to delay the static buildup? when the liquid dries up or thins out, its protective effect wears off thus static builds up and shocks him?

Re: [GalFisk] Pig

PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 5:25 am
by GalFisk

SPOILER!
When I enter work in winter, my wet boot soles squeal as I walk across the vinyl floor.
When the squealing stops, my dry boot soles charge my body with static electricity.

Good solve. Thanks for playing!