[WiZ] Been a while since the last demography puzzle

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[WiZ] Been a while since the last demography puzzle

Postby WiZ » Thu Apr 26, 2018 8:08 am

A demographer is enjoying a meal outside at a restaurant. He is watching local individuals walking up and down the street, going about their business. At a glance, he can tell not only the relationship status, but also the religion of many of them. How?
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Re: [WiZ] Been a while since the last demography puzzle

Postby GalFisk » Thu Apr 26, 2018 8:46 am

Can he tell the relationship status of people of a certain religion? Is clothing relevant? Jewelry? The company they keep? Their interactions with other people? Can he tell the religion of men? Women? The relationship status of men? Women? Can he tell if someone is: Virgin? Single but searching? Single and not searching? Taken? Engaged? Married? Divorced? Widowed? Having relationship trouble?
Can he tell if someone is: Christian? Muslim? Hindu? Buddhist? Shintoist? Atheist? Agnostic? Satanist? Catholic? Protestant? Shia? Sunni?
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Re: [WiZ] Been a while since the last demography puzzle

Postby Earnest » Thu Apr 26, 2018 12:46 pm

Are regression models relevant? Statistical models in general? Relevant where the restaurant was?...I mean...if he was in Vaticano city is not necessary to be a demographer for knowing the religion and relationship status of many of the passers...

Relevant how many people passed by? How many local individuals he saw? How many local individuals were from a certain religion? Have a certain status? (Status = married/unmarried?) Dummy variables involved?
Are individuals man and women? Just men? Just women? Same question eith "mainly". All children? Mainly children? Mixed?
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Re: [WiZ] Been a while since the last demography puzzle

Postby WiZ » Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:02 pm

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Can he tell the relationship status of people of a certain religion? not necessarily Is clothing relevant? Jewelry? The company they keep? Their interactions with other people? no to all Can he tell the religion of men? Women? both The relationship status of men? Women? both Can he tell if someone is: Virgin? no Single but searching? Single and not searching? Taken? yes; no or inconclusive to rest Engaged? Married? Divorced? Widowed? Having relationship trouble?
Can he tell if someone is: Christian? yes Muslim? Hindu? Buddhist? Shintoist? Atheist? Agnostic? Satanist? Catholic? yes Protestant? and yes for certain strains; no to rest Shia? Sunni?

Earnest

Are regression models relevant? Statistical models in general? no Relevant where the restaurant was? not in specific terms, as per your example ...I mean...if he was in Vaticano city is not necessary to be a demographer for knowing the religion and relationship status of many of the passers... This is true :)

Relevant how many people passed by? no How many local individuals he saw? no How many local individuals were from a certain religion? no Have a certain status? (Status = married/unmarried?) no Dummy variables involved? no
Are individuals man and women? yes Just men? Just women? Same question eith "mainly". The gender distribution is more or less even All children? no Mainly children? no Mixed? no, they are mostly adults
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Re: [WiZ] Been a while since the last demography puzzle

Postby JenBurdoo » Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:38 pm

Is ethnicity relevant? Any relevant traditions (engagement rings, etc)? Specific location? Time of year? Era? Age or generation? Is the relevant detail something only a demographer would look for? Details of clothing? Upper/lower class? Relevant industries or careers (some armies discourage soldiers of a certain rank from getting married, etc). Is it a Sunday, or another holy day?
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Re: [WiZ] Been a while since the last demography puzzle

Postby WiZ » Thu Apr 26, 2018 10:24 pm

Is ethnicity relevant? not to this puzzle Any relevant traditions (engagement rings, etc)? yes Specific location? no Time of year? yes Era? Yes, but only because few lateral puzzles can exist throughout the space-time continuum Age or generation? not really Is the relevant detail something only a demographer would look for? no :) Details of clothing? no Upper/lower class? no Relevant industries or careers (some armies discourage soldiers of a certain rank from getting married, etc). no Is it a Sunday no, or another holy day yes?
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Re: [WiZ] Been a while since the last demography puzzle

Postby invisiblemimsy » Thu Apr 26, 2018 10:27 pm

Churches relevant? Weddings? Registry office? Carrying something, eg. a bible? Wearing certain clothes, and/or not wearing other certain clothes? Is he basing his deductions on one particular thing, or a combination of things? Going into a pub, e.g. most Christians would go into a pub, whereas Muslims wouldn't? Going into a church, or other relevant building/s? Wearing a cross/crucifix? Is it Christmas, Easter, Lent, Harvest festival?
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Re: [WiZ] Been a while since the last demography puzzle

Postby WiZ » Thu Apr 26, 2018 10:40 pm

Churches relevant? Indirectly Weddings? Registry office? no to these Carrying something yes, in some cases, eg. a bible? but not this Wearing certain clothes, and/or not wearing other certain clothes? no Is he basing his deductions on one particular thing yes, or a combination of things? no Going into a pub, e.g. most Christians would go into a pub, whereas Muslims wouldn't? not this Going into a church, or other relevant building/s? no Wearing a cross/crucifix? no Is it Christmas, Easter, Lent this - but there is more, Harvest festival?
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Postby invisiblemimsy » Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:20 pm

Relevant it's the Abrahamic religions? Can he spot the Jewish people? The one particular thing: something they are carrying or not carrying? Does this happen in a particular country, town, specific location etc?
When you say, Lent 'this but there is something more' do you mean the event or time of year? That it is Lent but some other concurrent thing or event? Or it happens in Lent but also another time/s? Carrying something black or purple? A specific item? Leaves, crosses, Palm Sunday? A specific day in Lent?
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Re: [WiZ] Been a while since the last demography puzzle

Postby WiZ » Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:32 pm

Relevant it's the Abrahamic religions? yes Can he spot the Jewish people? No, unless they were otherwise conspicuous in their appearance The one particular thing: something they are carrying yes or not carrying? no Does this happen in a particular country, town, specific location etc? Not really relevant - assume a busy street in a city in a country that doesn't actively persecute people based on religion
When you say, Lent 'this but there is something more' do you mean the event or time of year? Both, in this instance That it is Lent but some other concurrent thing or event? Correct! Or it happens in Lent but also another time/s? no Carrying something black or purple? probably not, in both cases A specific item? no Leaves, crosses, Palm Sunday? No to these A specific day in Lent? Yes
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Re: [WiZ] Been a while since the last demography puzzle

Postby invisiblemimsy » Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:58 pm

Ash Wednesday, ash crosses? Shrove Tuesday? Food? Maundy Thursday?
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Re: [WiZ] Been a while since the last demography puzzle

Postby WiZ » Fri Apr 27, 2018 12:01 am

Ash Wednesday, ash crosses? Yes and yes. This answers the 'religion' half of the puzzle. What about the relationship status?
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Re: [WiZ] Been a while since the last demography puzzle

Postby invisiblemimsy » Fri Apr 27, 2018 12:11 am

Is the relationship status linked to the ash crosses, or is there an additional factor which he observes?
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Re: [WiZ] Been a while since the last demography puzzle

Postby WiZ » Fri Apr 27, 2018 12:22 am

Is the relationship status linked to the ash crosses no, or is there an additional factor which he observes? yes
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Re: [WiZ] Been a while since the last demography puzzle

Postby invisiblemimsy » Fri Apr 27, 2018 12:38 am

Is it something simple, such as walking together, linking arms/holding hands if they are a couple? Carrying each other's things? Having their children with them?
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Re: [WiZ] Been a while since the last demography puzzle

Postby WiZ » Fri Apr 27, 2018 12:40 am

Is it something simple, such as walking together, linking arms/holding hands if they are a couple? Carrying each other's things? Having their children with them? no to these - he can deduce this from observing individuals (not necessarily in concert)
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Re: [WiZ] Been a while since the last demography puzzle

Postby invisiblemimsy » Fri Apr 27, 2018 12:46 am

Can he tell who's taken even if the partner isn't there?
From the ash crosses? Their clothing? Their interaction? Their behaviour?
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Re: [WiZ] Been a while since the last demography puzzle

Postby WiZ » Fri Apr 27, 2018 12:51 am

Can he tell who's taken even if the partner isn't there? yes
From the ash crosses? Their clothing? Their interaction? Their behaviour? no to all
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Re: [WiZ] Been a while since the last demography puzzle

Postby Doriana » Fri Apr 27, 2018 6:39 am

Does Ash Wednesday coincide with Valentine's Day? Are the people who are taken carrying bouquets or chocolates?
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Re: [WiZ] Been a while since the last demography puzzle

Postby Earnest » Fri Apr 27, 2018 6:47 am

Were passers all of a given relationship status if they were alone? Weddings relevant? Traditions? Place where single and non single sit? Places where they go? So he could recognize that someone is marrried even if he/she passes alone on the street? Were women passing alone on the street all singles? Were single women and men supposed to do something? Same question for married couples?
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Re: [WiZ] Been a while since the last demography puzzle

Postby Enjay » Sun Apr 29, 2018 3:41 pm

Would he be able to make the deduction on relationship status any day of the year? Only on Ash Wednesday?

Does everyone passing have the same relationship status?

Is it relevant whether the people in relationships live with their partners? Whether they are married?

Do the single people have something about them (eg dirt on their clothes) that he thinks their partner would have pointed out to them if they had one?
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Re: [WiZ] Been a while since the last demography puzzle

Postby WiZ » Sun Apr 29, 2018 9:48 pm

Doriana

Does Ash Wednesday coincide with Valentine's Day? Are the people who are taken carrying bouquets or chocolates? Yes to all!

***** SPOILER *****

This year, Ash Wednesday fell on Valentine's day. The demographer noted many people with ass crosses on their forehead, suggesting they were some manner of mainline Christian (Ash Wed services in NZ are ecumenical - not sure how it works in other countries). He also noted many people carrying bouquets of flowers and chocolate boxes - suggesting they had a significant other.


Well done, Doriana, on putting the final piece in. Well done, InvisibleMimsy, on uncovering most of the information. Thank you everyone else for playing!
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