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[Jumpingjack] Mustn't! Be late! For a very important date!

Postby jumpingjacks » Thu Aug 16, 2018 2:31 pm

Florence sets up a meeting with Susie.
"Hmm, she takes her job seriously. I'd better not be late," Susie thinks.
Nothing unexpected happens to Susie to delay her, yet she misses the meeting. What happened?


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I hereby declare this puzzle solved!
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Postby Earnest » Thu Aug 16, 2018 4:28 pm

Was Florence aware of Susie missing the appointment? Did Susie decide not to go? Did she meet Florence later on? Before?
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Postby jumpingjacks » Thu Aug 16, 2018 5:07 pm

Was Florence aware of Susie missing the appointment? Yes, but only because Susie missed it. She had no prior knowledge, if that's what you meant. Did Susie decide not to go? No Did she meet Florence later on? Before? They reschedule after the missed meeting.
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Postby GalFisk » Thu Aug 16, 2018 5:16 pm

Does Susie make a mistake when the meeting is set up? Does she make a mistake because she is thinking about the importance of being on time? Electronics relevant? Is the date and time written down somewhere? Is an alarm set? Does Susie relevantly go to meetings often? Did she break from a routine used when scheduling other meetings?
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Postby jumpingjacks » Thu Aug 16, 2018 5:21 pm

Does Susie make a mistake when the meeting is set up? Yes Does she make a mistake because she is thinking about the importance of being on time? No Electronics relevant? No Is the date and time written down somewhere? No Is an alarm set? No, irrel Does Susie relevantly go to meetings often? Irrel Did she break from a routine used when scheduling other meetings? Irrel
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Re: [Jumpingjack] Mustn't! Be late! For a very important dat

Postby wolfier » Thu Aug 16, 2018 6:09 pm

Is the answer similar to the one to this puzzle? viewtopic.php?f=6&t=12111
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Postby Enjay » Thu Aug 16, 2018 6:44 pm

Did Susie think the meeting was at a different time to when it was? On a different day? In a different place?
Does she confuse am and pm? 24 hour clock relevant?

Is it relevant why she thinks Florence takes her job seriously? Does she think Florence has scheduled the meeting for an unusual working time, so must be very dedicated?

Is it relevant what the meeting was about?
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Postby jumpingjacks » Thu Aug 16, 2018 7:55 pm

Is the answer similar to the one to this puzzle? viewtopic.php?f=6&t=12111 Hmm, a similar mistake is involved

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Did Susie think the meeting was at a different time to when it was? Yes On a different day? No In a different place? No
Does she confuse am and pm? No 24 hour clock relevant? No

Is it relevant why she thinks Florence takes her job seriously? Yes Does she think Florence has scheduled the meeting for an unusual working time, so must be very dedicated? No

Is it relevant what the meeting was about? A little, it would help
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Postby Earnest » Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:26 am

It is somerhing like a pun involved? I think wolfier referred to a previous puzzle if someone making late at work right? It is somwthibg similar?
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Postby jumpingjacks » Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:26 am

It is something like a pun involved? Not exactly a pun, but could maybe be seen that way I think wolfier referred to a previous puzzle if someone making late at work right? It is something similar? A similar mistake is involved
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Postby Earnest » Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:34 am

So we can say that Susie voluntarily missed the appointment and that the mistake was in "how they took agreement" on place and time of the meeting?
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Postby jumpingjacks » Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:18 am

So we can say that Susie voluntarily missed the appointment No and that the mistake was in "how they took agreement" on place and time of the meeting? Yes, a mistake was made. She didn't mean to miss the meeting.
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Postby Enjay » Fri Aug 17, 2018 3:01 pm

Does Susie think Florence takes her job seriously because she is scheduling the meeting at all? Because of when the meeting is scheduled for (or when Susie thinks it is scheduled for?) How long it is scheduled to be? Where it is? What it is about?
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Postby jumpingjacks » Fri Aug 17, 2018 4:39 pm

Does Susie think Florence takes her job seriously because she is scheduling the meeting at all? No Because of when the meeting is scheduled for (or when Susie thinks it is scheduled for?) Noish How long it is scheduled to be? Where it is? What it is about? No to rest
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Postby Balin » Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:22 pm

Did she make a mistake solely on the time the meeting was supposed to start? Are time zones involved?
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Postby jumpingjacks » Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:37 pm

Did she make a mistake solely on the time the meeting was supposed to start? Yes Are time zones involved? No
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Postby Westing1992 » Sat Aug 18, 2018 11:37 pm

Was the meeting for an unusually specific time, ex. 3:27? Did Susie believe it to be that specific?
Was the meeting time in reference to when another event happens, ex. when a business opens?
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Postby jumpingjacks » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:53 am

Was the meeting for an unusually specific time, ex. 3:27? No Did Susie believe it to be that specific? No..ish
Was the meeting time in reference to when another event happens, ex. when a business opens? No
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Postby Earnest » Sun Aug 19, 2018 7:53 am

Means of transport relevant? Relevant where Susie signed up the date and the time of the meeting? In a phone (e.g. google calendar)? In a diary? She did not write it down at all? In a calendar? Relevant the day of the meeting? The time? Can we invoke the list of times and days of the year? Are clocks relevant? Time tables?

Was the time/date of the meeting modified? If so did Susie update it? Relevant how Susie update it? A.m. vs p.m. relevant? (E.g. Susie was European and Florence specified to meet at eight but did not say a.m. or p.m.) Misleading names of place where they would have meet relevant?
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Postby jumpingjacks » Sun Aug 19, 2018 12:25 pm

Means of transport relevant? No Relevant where Susie signed up the date and the time of the meeting? In a phone (e.g. google calendar)? In a diary? She did not write it down at all? In a calendar? All irrel Relevant the day of the meeting? No The time? Yope/yesish Can we invoke the list of times Not at the moment, for a reason =) and days Irrel of the year? Are clocks relevant? Time tables? No to both

Was the time/date of the meeting modified? No If so did Susie update it? Relevant how Susie update it? A.m. vs p.m. relevant? No to all (E.g. Susie was European and Florence specified to meet at eight but did not say a.m. or p.m.) No, but this angle is worth exploring Misleading names of place where they would have met relevant? No
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Postby Earnest » Sun Aug 19, 2018 1:16 pm

So were Susie and Florence from the same country? Did they use the same metrics to specify time? Can we assume they both spoke english one to the other? They came from the same country?

Did Florence mean to meet Susie in the morning? Afternoon? Evening? Night? Did Susie mistake the time for morning? Evening? Night? Afternoon? At noon? Did Susie miss the day if the meeting? The time of the meeting (e.g. she arrived X hours later? X minutes later? X seconds later? If so is X relevant? 2 hours? 3 hours? More than 5 hours?)? Did they plan also the time of the meeting ending? (E.g. they plan to meet for about one hours? 30 min?...) Relevant?
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Postby jumpingjacks » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:41 pm

So were Susie and Florence from the same country? No! Did they use the same metrics to specify time? Yes, but... Can we assume they both spoke english one to the other? Yes They came from the same country? No

Did Florence mean to meet Susie in the morning? Afternoon? This Evening? Night? Did Susie mistake the time for morning? Evening? Night? Afternoon? The time she mistook it for was also in the afternoon At noon? Did Susie miss the day of the meeting? No The time of the meeting Yes (e.g. she arrived X hours later? X minutes later? X seconds later? No to these If so is X relevant? Yes, in a way 2 hours? close 3 hours? More than 5 hours? )? Did they plan also the time of the meeting ending? (E.g. they plan to meet for about one hours? 30 min?...) Relevant? No
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Postby Enjay » Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:47 pm

Was English Susie's native language? Florence's?

Was there a relevant difference in specifying time between the two's countries?

Did Susie arrive early? Late?

Is it relevant how exactly Florence phrased the time of the meeting? Was the meeting scheduled to be on the hour? Half hour? Quarter hour? Relevant?

I remember in German, saying for example "half two" means 1:30, whereas in English it means 2:30 - anything like this relevant?
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Postby Earnest » Sun Aug 19, 2018 6:15 pm

Relevant what F's job is? Did she work with foreigners? E.g. tourist guide... did S work with/for F? Was S F's client? Is it all relevant?

Can we assume they said "Let's meet at time X"? Or they used a vague expression like basing for instance on the bell sound of the church/other things? Or "let's meet soon after lunch"? Was a specific hour told?
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Postby jumpingjacks » Sun Aug 19, 2018 7:19 pm

Was English Susie's native language? Florence's? Yes to both, but...

Was there a relevant difference in specifying time between the two's countries? Yes

Did Susie arrive early? This Late?

Is it relevant how exactly Florence phrased the time of the meeting? Yes! Was the meeting scheduled to be on the hour? Half hour? This! Quarter hour? Relevant? Very!

I remember in German, saying for example "half two" means 1:30, whereas in English it means 2:30 - anything like this relevant? Very!!!! Not this exactly, but Florence says "half four" to mean 4.30. What time does Susie arrive?

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Relevant what F's job is? Yes Did she work with foreigners? No...ish E.g. tourist guide... No did S work with/for F? No Was S F's client? No Is it all relevant? Yes

Can we assume they said "Let's meet at time X"? Yes Or they used a vague expression like basing for instance on the bell sound of the church/other things? No Or "let's meet soon after lunch"? No Was a specific hour told? Yes
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Postby Earnest » Sun Aug 19, 2018 7:36 pm

Did Susie arrive at 2 p.m.?
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Postby Enjay » Sun Aug 19, 2018 8:48 pm

Following Earnest's question, does Florence teach maths or work with numbers somehow? Does Susie think she takes her job seriously because she thinks she is giving the time as a maths problem? Does she think Florence is giving the time in code? Giving Susie a test to work out?
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Postby jumpingjacks » Wed Aug 22, 2018 2:57 am

Did Susie arrive at 2 p.m.? Yes!!!

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Following Earnest's question, does Florence teach maths Yes!! or work with numbers somehow? Does Susie think she takes her job seriously because she thinks she is giving the time as a maths problem? Yes!!! Does she think Florence is giving the time in code? Giving Susie a test to work out?

*********************** SPOILER*************************

Florence is a Maths teacher in the UK, and Susie is a new foreign exchange student. When setting up a meeting to discuss some course work, Florence sets the meeting time at "half four". Susie, who is unfamiliar with this term, assumes that Florence just really loves Maths and wants to meet at "half of four"... and arrives punctually at 2pm.

Thank you all for playing, and well done Enjay and Earnest!
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Postby Earnest » Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:21 am

Thanks! Nice puzzle!
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