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[JenBurdoo] Never Volunteer

PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 4:49 pm
by JenBurdoo
A man eagerly answers a question about his talent, but doesn't like the result. Explain.

Re: [JenBurdoo] Never Volunteer

PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 10:05 pm
by Solong
Is the 'talent' in the field of entertainment?
Is it an intellectual talent, e.g. maths or languages?
Is it primarily physical rather than mental? or vice versa?

Re: [JenBurdoo] Never Volunteer

PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 12:12 pm
by Doriana
Does this happen in a job interview?

Re: [JenBurdoo] Never Volunteer

PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 6:35 am
by JenBurdoo
Is the 'talent' in the field of entertainment? It can help in some disciplines, but is not, strictly speaking, required.
Is it an intellectual talent, e.g. maths or languages? Language is involved.
Is it primarily physical rather than mental? or vice versa? Both, really.

Does this happen in a job interview? Interesting! For sufficiently vague variables of "job interview," yes.

Re: [JenBurdoo] Never Volunteer

PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:56 am
by Doriana
Talking backwards relevant? Burping the alphabet? Rhyming? Rapping? Foreign languages?

Re: [JenBurdoo] Never Volunteer

PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:08 pm
by JenBurdoo
Talking backwards relevant? Burping the alphabet? Rhyming? Rapping? Foreign languages? None of these.

Re: [JenBurdoo] Never Volunteer

PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 7:52 pm
by trebor
Is the man an athlete? Would the "job interview" be considered more of a tryout? Or audition? Is he making a sales pitch? Is he applying for a volunteer position? Some other unpaid work?

Is language involved only insofar as he has to communicate with someone(s)?

Re: [JenBurdoo] Never Volunteer

PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:29 pm
by JenBurdoo
Hint/error: "Talent" should perhaps be read as "Skill."

Is the man an athlete? Irr. Would the "job interview" be considered more of a tryout? Or audition? Neither, really. Is he making a sales pitch? No. Is he applying for a volunteer position? Some other unpaid work? For SVV of "volunteer" and "unpaid."

Is language involved only insofar as he has to communicate with someone(s)? Yope.

Re: [JenBurdoo] Never Volunteer

PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 8:29 am
by GalFisk
Does he have less skill than he thought? More skill than appropriate for the job? The wrong skill?

Re: [JenBurdoo] Never Volunteer

PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 8:42 pm
by JenBurdoo
Does he have less skill than he thought? No. More skill than appropriate for the job? No. The wrong skill? Somewhere between "No" and "Can't Answer."

Re: [JenBurdoo] Never Volunteer

PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 9:44 pm
by Balin
Does he misunderstand the question?

Re: [JenBurdoo] Never Volunteer

PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 12:36 am
by JenBurdoo
Does he misunderstand the question? Hard to answer! There is something he doesn't realize when answering it.

Re: [JenBurdoo] Never Volunteer

PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 7:52 am
by GalFisk
Relevant that he answers eagerly? Is it skills in a language? Sign language relevant? Lip reading? Is it a trick question?

Re: [JenBurdoo] Never Volunteer

PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 4:18 pm
by JenBurdoo
Relevant that he answers eagerly? Mildly. Is it skills in a language? Relevant, but not the primary element. Sign language relevant? Lip reading? Neither. Is it a trick question? Yes.

Re: [JenBurdoo] Never Volunteer

PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 5:54 pm
by GalFisk
Skill in communication? Diplomacy? Stealth? Negotiation?

Re: [JenBurdoo] Never Volunteer

PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 6:16 pm
by JenBurdoo
Skill in communication? Also relevant. Diplomacy? Stealth? Negotiation? None of these.

Re: [JenBurdoo] Never Volunteer

PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 7:45 pm
by trebor
Is any crime involved here? Is the man being asked the question by another HAM? A HAF? A group of people? An anonymous person? Does he know the person(s) asking the question? Does whoever asked the question have the same skill he does? Is his location relevant?

Re: [JenBurdoo] Never Volunteer

PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:28 pm
by Balin
Are exact words relevant?
Are any previous or subsequent questions relevant? Any events prior to him being asked any questions?

Re: [JenBurdoo] Never Volunteer

PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:50 pm
by JenBurdoo
Is any crime involved here? No. Is the man being asked the question by another HAM? Assume this. A HAF? Possible. A group of people? An anonymous person? No. Does he know the person(s) asking the question? Irr. Does whoever asked the question have the same skill he does? Irr. Is his location relevant? A general class of location, yes.

Are exact words relevant? Yes.
Are any previous or subsequent questions relevant? A subsequent statement is. Any events prior to him being asked any questions? Irr.

Re: [JenBurdoo] Never Volunteer

PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:57 pm
by CoffeeBean
Is the question meant to trick the man?
Was the question asked only to him, or to a group?

Re: [JenBurdoo] Never Volunteer

PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 10:17 pm
by JenBurdoo
Is the question meant to trick the man? Yes.
Was the question asked only to him, or to a group? The latter.

Re: [JenBurdoo] Never Volunteer

PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 10:48 pm
by Balin
Was the man the first to answer in the group?
Did his answer lead to the man performing an unpleasant task?

Re: [JenBurdoo] Never Volunteer

PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 7:56 am
by GalFisk
Was the question asked in order to find someone guilty of something? On order to trick the whole group? In order to weed out unsuitable people? To find someone for a specific task?

Re: [JenBurdoo] Never Volunteer

PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 12:05 am
by JenBurdoo
Was the man the first to answer in the group? Irr.
Did his answer lead to the man performing an unpleasant task? Yes.

Was the question asked in order to find someone guilty of something? No. On order to trick the whole group? Not necessarily. In order to weed out unsuitable people? No. To find someone for a specific task? Yes.

Re: [JenBurdoo] Never Volunteer

PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 8:31 pm
by Balin
Was the task something that no one wanted to volunteer for? So the "skill" question was asked to get someone to volunteer?

Re: [JenBurdoo] Never Volunteer

PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 3:01 am
by JenBurdoo
Was the task something that no one wanted to volunteer for? So the "skill" question was asked to get someone to volunteer?

OTRT. The task was unexpected by the volunteers.

Re: [JenBurdoo] Never Volunteer

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 3:43 pm
by JenBurdoo
Hint: No one knew they were volunteering for an unpleasant task, and would have avoided it if they knew. They thought they were volunteering for a task they held skills in, and considered that pleasant.

Re: [JenBurdoo] Never Volunteer

PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:58 pm
by GalFisk
Were they actually volunteering for a task they held no skills in? For an unpleasant task where their skills for the pleasant task were useful? Was the unpleasant task: dangerous? Strenuous? Tedious? Dirty? Smelly? Boring? Lonely? Annoying? Repetitive? Pointless? Stupid? Too simple? Not fun? Not honorable? Below them? Not profitable?

Re: [JenBurdoo] Never Volunteer

PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:52 pm
by JenBurdoo
Were they actually volunteering for a task they held no skills in? No. For an unpleasant task where their skills for the pleasant task were useful? No. Was the unpleasant task: dangerous? Strenuous? Mildly. Tedious? Yes. Dirty? Smelly? Boring? Yes. Lonely? Annoying? Repetitive? Possibly. Pointless? Stupid? Too simple? Not fun? Correct. Not honorable? Below them? Not profitable? None of the others.

Re: [JenBurdoo] Never Volunteer

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 1:55 am
by trebor
Does the task have to do with filing things? Sorting? Is it something that would be frequently done in office buildings? Or in administrative work?

Is the man a teacher? Professor?

Re: [JenBurdoo] Never Volunteer

PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 8:43 pm
by JenBurdoo
Does the task have to do with filing things? Sorting? No to both. Is it something that would be frequently done in office buildings? Or in administrative work? Not necessarily frequently, but it could occur.

Is the man a teacher? Professor? Neither.

Re: [JenBurdoo] Never Volunteer

PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 6:08 am
by GalFisk
Is technology relevant? Is the task done indoors? Do the others relevantly get to do something better? Does the task involve other humans? Animals? Is it a thankless task?

Re: [JenBurdoo] Never Volunteer

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:23 pm
by JenBurdoo
Is technology relevant? Yes. Is the task done indoors? Irr, assume no. Do the others relevantly get to do something better? No. Does the task involve other humans? Animals? No to both. Is it a thankless task? Yes.

Hint: The skill he claims is typing.

Re: [JenBurdoo] Never Volunteer

PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:08 am
by gregoryuconn
Did he make a typo in his answer about how he was so good at typing? Several? Meaning he actually wasn't so good after all?

Re: [JenBurdoo] Never Volunteer

PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:08 am
by gregoryuconn
Did he make a typo in his answer about how he was so good at typing? Several? Meaning he actually wasn't so good after all?

Re: [JenBurdoo] Never Volunteer

PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:51 am
by JenBurdoo
Did he make a typo in his answer about how he was so good at typing? Several? Meaning he actually wasn't so good after all? No to all.

Re: [JenBurdoo] Never Volunteer

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:21 am
by GalFisk
Does he get to type? Press buttons? Use a computer? Typewriter? WAG: does he get to type the huge stacks of "all work and no play makes Jack a dull boy" prop papers for the The Shining movie?

Re: [JenBurdoo] Never Volunteer

PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:25 pm
by JenBurdoo
Does he get to type? Press buttons? Use a computer? Typewriter? WAG: does he get to type the huge stacks of "all work and no play makes Jack a dull boy" prop papers for the The Shining movie? None of these.

Re: [JenBurdoo] Never Volunteer

PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:36 pm
by GalFisk
Does he get to use his fingers? Speed relevant? Accuracy? Nimbleness? Familiarity with qwerty?

Re: [JenBurdoo] Never Volunteer

PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:19 pm
by JenBurdoo
Does he get to use his fingers? He does need them for the task. Speed relevant? Accuracy? Nimbleness? Familiarity with qwerty? No to the rest.

Re: [JenBurdoo] Never Volunteer

PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:26 pm
by GalFisk
Fingerprints relevant? Keyboards? Does he need to push on something with his fingers for the task?

Re: [JenBurdoo] Never Volunteer

PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:48 pm
by JenBurdoo
Fingerprints relevant? Keyboards? Does he need to push on something with his fingers for the task? No to all. I suspect an FA.

Re: [JenBurdoo] Never Volunteer

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:20 am
by Hobbsicle
Is he in the military?

Is he simply asked whether or not he can type? Or how fast he can type? Or how much he can or has typed? Is his actual typing skill at all relevant to the task he is going to perform? Is the manner in which he answers the question relevant? Is he asked in person? Does he answer verbally? Or is he typing the answer?

Re: [JenBurdoo] Never Volunteer

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:34 am
by JenBurdoo
Is he in the military? Yes.

Is he simply asked whether or not he can type? Or how fast he can type? Or how much he can or has typed? No to all. Is his actual typing skill at all relevant to the task he is going to perform? No. Is the manner in which he answers the question relevant? Mildly. Is he asked in person? Yes. Does he answer verbally? Assume yes. Or is he typing the answer? No.

Re: [JenBurdoo] Never Volunteer

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:36 pm
by GalFisk
Is the task related to typing at all? To using one's hands? Is he selected to the task because of his skill? Typewriters relevant? Is he tasked with maintaining something? Is the task a punishment? In saying that he is skilled at typing, does he reveal some information hed rather keep hidden?

Re: [JenBurdoo] Never Volunteer

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:11 pm
by JenBurdoo
Is the task related to typing at all? No. To using one's hands? Yes. Is he selected to the task because of his skill? No. Typewriters relevant? Yes. Is he tasked with maintaining something? No. Is the task a punishment? No, but could be considered so in a joking sense. In saying that he is skilled at typing, does he reveal some information hed rather keep hidden? No, but had he known what was coming, he'd have done better to stay quiet.

Re: [JenBurdoo] Never Volunteer

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:11 pm
by GalFisk
Does he have to lug typewriters around? Is heavy lifting involved?

Re: [JenBurdoo] Never Volunteer

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 3:07 pm
by JenBurdoo
Does he have to lug typewriters around? Is heavy lifting involved? Yes to both.

Spoiler:


Imagine a line of soldiers and a cigar-chomping sergeant, who hollers, "Who here can handle typewriters?"

When one private eagerly raises his hand, he is directed to a stack of boxed typewriters. "Carry those over to the commandant's office. On the double!"