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[Doriana] Single Ladies

Postby Doriana » Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:28 pm

David (H/A/M) gives Kate (H/A/F) a gift that he thinks is free. However, it ends up costing him thousands of Euros.

Based on a true story.
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Re: [Doriana] Single Ladies

Postby LemonCurry » Wed Jan 30, 2019 3:22 pm

Did he have to pay the money to Kate? o the original owner of the gift? To someone else?

Did he have to pay a fine? damages? alimony?
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Re: [Doriana] Single Ladies

Postby Doriana » Wed Jan 30, 2019 3:32 pm

Did he have to pay the money to Kate? o the original owner of the gift? No to these To someone else? Yes

Did he have to pay a fine? damages? alimony? No to all
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Re: [Doriana] Single Ladies

Postby Earnest » Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:27 pm

Did he pay for it? If not, because he thought it was free? Was it in fact free? If not, relevant how he discovered it was not? Relevant what let him think it was (e.g. he thought to have won it at the lottery)? Is the gift an object? A precious object? A service? A travel? Food?

Could it have happened in US?
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Re: [Doriana] Single Ladies

Postby Westing1992 » Thu Jan 31, 2019 1:07 am

Did he have to pay taxes on it? Did it cause damage that he had to pay for? Did he have to pay to maintain it?
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Re: [Doriana] Single Ladies

Postby GalFisk » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:39 am

Does he pay it all at once? Does he pay to her? Crime relevant? Punishment? Is he foolish to think it's free?
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Re: [Doriana] Single Ladies

Postby Lynne » Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:14 pm

Hi Doriana!
Was it something like a subscription which was free for the first month, but led to hefty monthly costs which came out of his account?
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Re: [Doriana] Single Ladies

Postby Doriana » Thu Jan 31, 2019 11:11 pm

Earnest
Did he pay for it? For the gift itself? No If not, because he thought it was free? Yes Was it in fact free? Yes If not, relevant how he discovered it was not? n/a Relevant what let him think it was (e.g. he thought to have won it at the lottery)? Noish Is the gift an object? A precious object? No to these A service? This is closest, but not quite it A travel? Food? No to these

Could it have happened in US? Yes

Westing1992
Did he have to pay taxes on it? No Did it cause damage that he had to pay for? Yope for svv of "damage", but maybe OTRT Did he have to pay to maintain it? No

GalFisk
Does he pay it all at once? Yope Does he pay to her? No Crime relevant? No Punishment? Yope Is he foolish to think it's free? I would say no

Lynne
Hi Doriana! Hi Lynne!
Was it something like a subscription which was free for the first month, but led to hefty monthly costs which came out of his account? No
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Re: [Doriana] Single Ladies

Postby Earnest » Fri Feb 01, 2019 8:07 am

Rental of something relevant? Was the free "service" part of another service for which he paid (e.g. he went on a limo business and rent a limousine. Within the limo there was free champagne. He and his girlfriend (is this the relationship between the two?) dirtied the limo with the beverage and he was forced to pay the damages)? Internet relevant? Technology? Did he damage the free thing? Did the free thing belong to him from the moment he took it? Were there offers of the sort: pay one and buy two? Or maybe a part of the prodcut is free (e.g. in shampoos/oil/wine...)? Is the gift normally found for free? In shops? In nature? In hotels? In supermarket? Is it offered for free usually? Is embarassment relevant? Can the gift be considered "romantic"? Are any of these relevant: hotel? Restaurant? Venice? Romantic experience? Paris? Snow? Technology? Cars? Cinema? Jewelry? Clothing?

Was it written somewhere that it was for free? Relevant the relationship between David and Kate? Are they famous? Did he take the gift in front of her? Did he take the gift before and gave it to her later on? Was Kate aware that it was free? Relevant?
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Re: [Doriana] Single Ladies

Postby gregoryuconn » Fri Feb 01, 2019 8:24 pm

So the gift is sort of a service but not quite.... Did he perform some work for her? If so, did he perform the work poorly? And maybe cause damage? Like if he offered to clean her house for her but wound up damaging several items, which he then had to pay for?
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Re: [Doriana] Single Ladies

Postby Doriana » Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:32 pm

Rental of something relevant? No Was the free "service" part of another service for which he paid (e.g. he went on a limo business and rent a limousine. Within the limo there was free champagne. He and his girlfriend (is this the relationship between the two? They're engaged) dirtied the limo with the beverage and he was forced to pay the damages)? No Internet relevant? Technology? No to these Did he damage the free thing? No and FA - it was not a tangible thing Did the free thing belong to him from the moment he took it? Same FA Were there offers of the sort: pay one and buy two? Or maybe a part of the prodcut is free (e.g. in shampoos/oil/wine...)? No to these Is the gift normally found for free? It's usually free, but "found" is not quite the right word In shops? No In nature? Yope In hotels? In supermarket? No to these Is it offered for free usually? It's not usually "offered" Is embarassment relevant? No Can the gift be considered "romantic"? Yes Are any of these relevant: hotel? Restaurant? Venice? No to these Romantic experience? Noish Paris? Snow? Technology? Cars? Cinema? Jewelry? Clothing? No to these

Was it written somewhere that it was for free? No Relevant the relationship between David and Kate? Yes, they're engaged Are they famous? No Did he take the gift in front of her? No and possible FA Did he take the gift before and gave it to her later on? Same possible FA Was Kate aware that it was free? Yes Relevant? No


So the gift is sort of a service but not quite.... "Service" is still somewhat OTWT, just less so than the other guesses Did he perform some work for her? No If so, did he perform the work poorly? And maybe cause damage? Like if he offered to clean her house for her but wound up damaging several items, which he then had to pay for? N/a to rest
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Re: [Doriana] Single Ladies

Postby Earnest » Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:55 am

Is it a view? A Panorama? A sunset? An experience? A dance in a special place? A theater? Is music relevant? Budgee jumping? Sky diving?

Considering it as a place/experience: did he take a fine rushing to the place? Parking where he thought it was free (e.g. there were time slots for free parking but they stayed a lot more time in a certain romantic place so that he received a big fine)? Did he make something illegal/a damage in order to have a perfect view? Did they need to go up/climb something? Is burning relevant/camping? Natural places? Buildings? Fireworks? A special/dangerous place to see a natural phenomenon/ an artificial phenomenon? (E.g. they went up to a snowy mountain in order to see a panorama but involuntarily provoked an avalanche?)

Was the gift free because it is considered cultural heritage? Is it available to the public? Can anyone have his/her own of the gift or is it the same for everyone (e.g. a good given for free to anyone against a statue, a panorama)? Is what it costed him a lot a damage? If so, was the damage strictly made to the gift directly? To something else related to the way he got the gift? To the way they join the gift?
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Re: [Doriana] Single Ladies

Postby Doriana » Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:39 pm

Is it a view? A Panorama? A sunset? An experience? A dance in a special place? A theater? Is music relevant? Budgee jumping? Sky diving? No to all, OTWT

Considering it as a place/experience: did he take a fine rushing to the place? Parking where he thought it was free (e.g. there were time slots for free parking but they stayed a lot more time in a certain romantic place so that he received a big fine)? Did he make something illegal/a damage in order to have a perfect view? Did they need to go up/climb something? Is burning relevant/camping? Natural places? Buildings? Fireworks? A special/dangerous place to see a natural phenomenon/ an artificial phenomenon? (E.g. they went up to a snowy mountain in order to see a panorama but involuntarily provoked an avalanche?) It's neither a place nor an experience, so irrel/no to all

Was the gift free because it is considered cultural heritage? No Is it available to the public? Difficult to say, potential FA Can anyone have his/her own of the gift or is it the same for everyone (e.g. a good given for free to anyone against a statue, a panorama)? Anyone can have their own Is what it costed him a lot a damage? No, there was some damage done, but he eventually paid for the consequences of the damage If so, was the damage strictly made to the gift directly? No To something else related to the way he got the gift? Yope To the way they join the gift? What do you mean by 'join'?
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Re: [Doriana] Single Ladies

Postby GalFisk » Sat Feb 09, 2019 7:32 am

Nature relevant? Camping? Fishing? National parks? Animals relevant? Plants? Food? Vandalism?
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Re: [Doriana] Single Ladies

Postby Doriana » Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:52 pm

Nature relevant? Camping? Fishing? National parks? Animals relevant? Plants? Food? Vandalism? No to all, OTWT

HINT: It's relevant that they are engaged.
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Re: [Doriana] Single Ladies

Postby GalFisk » Thu Feb 14, 2019 3:33 pm

Rings relevant? Planning marriage? Did they get to use a service by pretending to planning marriage? By pretending to proposing marriage?
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Re: [Doriana] Single Ladies

Postby Doriana » Thu Feb 14, 2019 3:37 pm

Rings relevant? No Planning marriage? Yes Did they get to use a service by pretending to planning marriage? By pretending to proposing marriage? No to these
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Re: [Doriana] Single Ladies

Postby GalFisk » Thu Feb 14, 2019 3:48 pm

Is it a service for those planning marriage? Does using the service obligate a purchase? If so, a purchase of an item? Wedding dresses relevant? Wedding receptions? Cake? Food? Drink? Wedding rehersals?
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Re: [Doriana] Single Ladies

Postby Doriana » Thu Feb 14, 2019 6:43 pm

Is it a service for those planning marriage? No, and keep in mind that it's not really a service Does using the service obligate a purchase? No If so, a purchase of an item? No Wedding dresses relevant? Wedding receptions? Cake? Food? Drink? But paying for all of these is relevant, explore Wedding rehersals? No
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Re: [Doriana] Single Ladies

Postby GalFisk » Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:03 pm

Does he end up having to pay for a lot of wedding stuff? Relevant when they actually plan to get married? Or if they've made plans at all?
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Re: [Doriana] Single Ladies

Postby Doriana » Sun Feb 17, 2019 5:18 pm

Does he end up having to pay for a lot of wedding stuff? Yes Relevant when they actually plan to get married? No Or if they've made plans at all? Yope
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Re: [Doriana] Single Ladies

Postby Balin » Sun Feb 17, 2019 5:23 pm

Did David actually intend to become engaged to Kate? Did he ever intend to marry her? Did he think someone else would pay for the wedding?
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Re: [Doriana] Single Ladies

Postby Doriana » Sun Feb 17, 2019 5:41 pm

Did David actually intend to become engaged to Kate? Yes Did he ever intend to marry her? Yes Did he think someone else would pay for the wedding? Yes!
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Re: [Doriana] Single Ladies

Postby Balin » Sun Feb 17, 2019 8:01 pm

Did he think the wedding payer(s) would be: his parents? Hers?
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Re: [Doriana] Single Ladies

Postby Doriana » Sun Feb 17, 2019 8:04 pm

Did he think the wedding payer(s) would be: his parents? Hers? Both, but only his parents are relevant to the puzzle
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Re: [Doriana] Single Ladies

Postby Balin » Sun Feb 17, 2019 8:09 pm

Hmm...
Do his parents not pay for the wedding because they refuse to? Because they die?
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Re: [Doriana] Single Ladies

Postby Doriana » Sun Feb 17, 2019 8:12 pm

Hmm... This is a forum of seasoned enthousiasts (WiZ, 2019), so I'm sure you can solve this puzzle
Do his parents not pay for the wedding because they refuse to? This Because they die?
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Re: [Doriana] Single Ladies

Postby Doriana » Fri Feb 22, 2019 9:13 am

RECAP: David gives his fiancée Kate a gift that is neither a tangible object nor an experience, strictly speaking. As a consequence, his parents refuse to pay for his wedding and he ends up having to pay for it himself.
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Re: [Doriana] Single Ladies

Postby GalFisk » Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:46 am

Do they refuse because they are angry? Disappointed? Poor? If they refuse because of negative fellings, are those feelings towards: him? Her? The gift? Each other?
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Re: [Doriana] Single Ladies

Postby Doriana » Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:47 am

Do they refuse because they are angry? Yes Disappointed? Yes Poor? No If they refuse because of negative fellings, are those feelings towards: him? This Her? Maybe also this, but less relevant The gift? And this Each other?
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Re: [Doriana] Single Ladies

Postby GalFisk » Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:34 pm

Did they think he should not have given the gift? Shoud have given it to them instead? To them as well? Are their beliefs relevant? Do they think this gift is dumb? Cruel? Wasteful? In poor taste? Dangerous?
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Re: [Doriana] Single Ladies

Postby Doriana » Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:50 pm

Did they think he should not have given the gift? Correct Shoud have given it to them instead? To them as well? No to both, and HINT: This would not be possible Are their beliefs relevant? If you mean religious beliefs, no. Opinions/convictions, yes Do they think this gift is dumb? No Cruel? Noish Wasteful? No In poor taste? Noish Dangerous? No
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Re: [Doriana] Single Ladies

Postby GalFisk » Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:15 pm

Selfish? Inappropriate? Inconsiderate? Is it a tattoo? Other body modification? Is it his virginity?
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Re: [Doriana] Single Ladies

Postby Doriana » Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:26 pm

Selfish? Yesish Inappropriate? Noish Inconsiderate? Yes Is it a tattoo? Other body modification? Is it his virginity? No to all
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Re: [Doriana] Single Ladies

Postby LemonCurry » Tue Feb 26, 2019 5:45 am

Is he giving up his name?
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Re: [Doriana] Single Ladies

Postby Doriana » Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:04 am

Is he giving up his name? YES

******** SPOILER ********

David's Christmas gift to his fiancée Kate is the promise that he will take her name in marriage. When his rather conservative parents hear about this, they decide to withdraw their financial support for the wedding. David ends up having to pay for everything his parents would have paid for.


True story from a friend's ex-boyfriend.
Well done, Earnest, GalFisk and Balin for the groundwork and LemonCurry for the final solve!
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Re: [Doriana] Single Ladies (*MARRIED*)

Postby Earnest » Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:15 am

Cool puzzle!
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