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[gregoryuconn] Hate Mail From Cheerleaders

Postby gregoryuconn » Wed Feb 06, 2019 1:23 am

Although Michelle is a perfectly ordinary woman who has lived a perfectly ordinary life, she gets hundreds of pieces of hate mail every day. Why?

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Re: [gregoryuconn] Hate Mail From Cheerleaders

Postby GalFisk » Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:46 am

Are they meant for her? Do the people who send it hate her? Is the hate misdirected?
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Re: [gregoryuconn] Hate Mail From Cheerleaders

Postby Doriana » Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:35 pm

Does she share a name with someone who is hated? an address?

Cheerleaders relevant at all? Does she actually get hate mail from cheerleaders?
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Re: [gregoryuconn] Hate Mail From Cheerleaders

Postby CoffeeBean » Wed Feb 06, 2019 3:51 pm

Is Michelle human? Female? Adult?
Has she done something at some point in her life to make her famous or well-known?
Is she associated with someone famous?
Is the motivation for the hate mail all the same/written for the same reason?
Has she done something directly that caused people to dislike her? Indirectly?
Is she continuing to do something that is causing people to dislike her?
Are the letters that she gets motivated by hate? Jealousy? Envy? Anger? Frustration?
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Re: [gregoryuconn] Hate Mail From Cheerleaders

Postby gregoryuconn » Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:25 am

Are they meant for her? NO! Do the people who send it hate her? No. Is the hate misdirected? It's intended for the person the letters were intended for.

Does she share a name with someone who is hated? No. an address? YOPE!

Cheerleaders relevant at all? Does she actually get hate mail from cheerleaders? No to both, it's a reference to the title of a book.

Is Michelle human? Female? Adult? TYes to all.
Has she done something at some point in her life to make her famous or well-known? No.
Is she associated with someone famous? No.
Is the motivation for the hate mail all the same/written for the same reason? Most of it would be for similar reasons, but probably not all of it and not exactly the same..
Has she done something directly that caused people to dislike her? No. Indirectly? No.
Is she continuing to do something that is causing people to dislike her? No.
Are the letters that she gets motivated by hate? Some of them. Jealousy? Maybe a few of these but not many. Envy? Again, maybe a few but not many. Anger? A lot of these. Frustration? A lot of these too.
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Re: [gregoryuconn] Hate Mail From Cheerleaders

Postby trebor » Fri Feb 08, 2019 2:26 am

Is the hate mail intended for a person? Business? Organisation? Did the intended recipient used to have the address she now has? Do they have a similar address? Is there something remarkable about Michelle’s address? The intended recipient’s address? Is it relevant how the senders would’ve come across the IR? Does the IR promote a cause these people are against?
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Re: [gregoryuconn] Hate Mail From Cheerleaders

Postby hoodie » Fri Feb 08, 2019 4:29 am

Did someone write/post/publish something that instructed people to write to a particular address to express complaints about something?
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Re: [gregoryuconn] Hate Mail From Cheerleaders

Postby LemonCurry » Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:46 am

Is all the hate mail intended for the same person? If yes, is it a real existing person?

Is the mail sent by E-mail? By letter? Does this happen in modern times?

Is Michelle somehow collecting the hate mail? Is she doing research or investigation with the hate mail? Is she surprised when she starts getting all the hate mail, or has she expected it?
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Re: [gregoryuconn] Hate Mail From Cheerleaders

Postby gregoryuconn » Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:09 pm

Is the hate mail intended for a person? For Yes Business? Actually, it wouldn’t surprise me if some of it was, though this wouldn’t hav happened until recently. Organisation? For svv of organization Did the intended recipient used to have the address she now has? No Do they have a similar address? Yes! Is there something remarkable about Michelle’s address? The intended recipient’s address? Depends on what you consider remarkable. There’s certainly something relevant about them beyond being similar. Is it relevant how the senders would’ve come across the IR? Yesish, possible FA. Does the IR promote a cause these people are against? That’s one way to put it.

Did someone write/post/publish something that instructed people to write to a particular address to express complaints about something? Probably, but not relevantly.

Is all the hate mail intended for the same person? If yes, is it a real existing person? Mostly the same, existing person, living but apparently some others as well, including dead and even fictional ones.

Is the mail sent by E-mail? By letter? This Does this happen in modern times? Yes

Is Michelle somehow collecting the hate mail? Is she doing research or investigation with the hate mail? No to all. Is she surprised when she starts getting all the hate mail, or has she expected it? Irrelevant
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Re: [gregoryuconn] Hate Mail From Cheerleaders

Postby GalFisk » Sat Feb 09, 2019 7:17 am

Does the mail go to her because the sender made a mistake? The postal service made a mistake? She made a mistake? The intended recipient did something relevant? If so, mistakenly? Deliberately?
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Re: [gregoryuconn] Hate Mail From Cheerleaders

Postby trebor » Sat Feb 09, 2019 7:22 pm

Is it relevant what the people are angry/hateful about? Reproductive rights relevant? LGBTQ issues? Immigration? Is the IR also named Michelle? Does Michelle share a last name with the IR? I know there are multiple recipients; I'm thinking of the main one to which you've referred, but what about for the others?

Is there something about Michelle's address? the IR's address? that would make most people go, "Oh, that's different/nifty/odd" if they were to read it? Is it in a form other than the standard for whatever country it's being sent to? Does Michelle live on a roadway that hasn't a common designation such as "Street" or "Avenue", but rather something that stands out as unusual? What about the IR? Do either of them use a PO Box?
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Re: [gregoryuconn] Hate Mail From Cheerleaders

Postby gregoryuconn » Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:19 am

Does the mail go to her because the sender made a mistake? Possibly The postal service made a mistake? Sometimes this too. She made a mistake? No. The intended recipient did something relevant? Only the actions that merited the hate mail. If so, mistakenly? Deliberately? Presumably deliberately, but that's irrelevant.

Is it relevant what the people are angry/hateful about? The exact complaint isn't relevant, but the general information may help you find relevant details. Reproductive rights relevant? Probably for some of the letters. LGBTQ issues? Same. Immigration? Same. Is the IR also named Michelle? Actually, it's possible that one of the people the letters were sent to is named Michelle, but this isn't relevant at all - I picked the name at random. Does Michelle share a last name with the IR? No or irrelevant. I know there are multiple recipients; I'm thinking of the main one to which you've referred, but what about for the others? Most individual letters are addressed to one person (as opposed to multiple recipients on the same letter) but more than one IR is getting letters (so one letter might be going to Person A and one letter might be going to Person B, but generally there would be no letters addressed to both Person A and Person B. And see my answers above as well.) However, most of them are for one particular person, the others get a small percentage of the mail.

Is there something about Michelle's address? the IR's address? that would make most people go, "Oh, that's different/nifty/odd" if they were to read it? Depends on what you consider "different." It isn't that unusual but some people may not be familiar with it. Regardless, both addresses have the same trait. Is it in a form other than the standard for whatever country it's being sent to? There is some relevant part of the format that is used in a number of places within that country, but nowhere near everywhere. Does Michelle live on a roadway that hasn't a common designation such as "Street" or "Avenue", but rather something that stands out as unusual? What about the IR? Noish or yope for both of them. Do either of them use a PO Box? No.
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Re: [gregoryuconn] Hate Mail From Cheerleaders

Postby GalFisk » Mon Feb 11, 2019 4:59 am

Does she understand why the mail ends up at her place? Relevant what she does with it? Does she mistakenly get other mail too?
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Re: [gregoryuconn] Hate Mail From Cheerleaders

Postby LemonCurry » Mon Feb 11, 2019 5:59 am

Does her address serve as a code for „recipient unknown“ or something?
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Re: [gregoryuconn] Hate Mail From Cheerleaders

Postby gregoryuconn » Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:30 am

Does she understand why the mail ends up at her place? She at least understands the basics. She may not understand the inner workings of the post office, but that's not really relevant. Relevant what she does with it? No. Does she mistakenly get other mail too? Yes.

Does her address serve as a code for „recipient unknown“ or something? No.

Also, I may have misunderstood trebor's question above. For clarification, the "other" Michelle is not the main IR, but may be one of the others. However, the name Michelle is a purely arbitrary pseudonym and I didn't choose it with the other Michelle in mind.
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Re: [gregoryuconn] Hate Mail From Cheerleaders

Postby GalFisk » Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:51 pm

Do the intended recipients live in the same area as her? Are the misrouted letters addressed incorrectly? Is there something missing? Do they have insufficient postage? Michelle only gets this mail because of the address to her place, correct?
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Re: [gregoryuconn] Hate Mail From Cheerleaders

Postby gregoryuconn » Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:44 pm

Do the intended recipients live in the same area as her? Yes Are the misrouted letters addressed incorrectly? Some of them. Is there something missing? Sometimes. Do they have insufficient postage? No Michelle only gets this mail because of the address to her place, correct? Yesish
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Re: [gregoryuconn] Hate Mail From Cheerleaders

Postby LemonCurry » Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:29 pm

Are postcodes relevant?
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Re: [gregoryuconn] Hate Mail From Cheerleaders

Postby Balin » Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:39 am

I've sent a PM.
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Re: [gregoryuconn] Hate Mail From Cheerleaders

Postby gregoryuconn » Sat Feb 16, 2019 2:59 pm

Are postcodes relevant? No

I've sent a PM. Good guess, but nope.
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Re: [gregoryuconn] Hate Mail From Cheerleaders

Postby GalFisk » Sun Feb 17, 2019 6:49 am

Does the address relevantly contain: a name? Po box? Street name? House number? Name of a business? A government entity? A department within a business or entity? The name of a town or city? A zip code? Does the address relevantly lack [above list]?
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Re: [gregoryuconn] Hate Mail From Cheerleaders

Postby trebor » Sun Feb 17, 2019 6:30 pm

Is it relevant what country Michelle lives in?
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Re: [gregoryuconn] Hate Mail From Cheerleaders

Postby gregoryuconn » Sun Feb 17, 2019 8:09 pm

Does the address relevantly contain: a name? Like a person's name? No. (Other than the recipient's) Po box? No. Street name? Yes. House number? Yes. Name of a business? No. A government entity? Yope or Yes A department within a business or entity? No. The name of a town or city? The city is relevant. A zip code? But the zip code isn't. Does the address relevantly lack [above list]? No

Is it relevant what country Michelle lives in? Yes (United States)
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Re: [gregoryuconn] Hate Mail From Cheerleaders

Postby trebor » Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:07 am

Is it a city with a metro population of 1 million? NYC? LA? Is it on the East Coast? West Coast? In the midwest? The South? In Alaska? Hawaii?
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Re: [gregoryuconn] Hate Mail From Cheerleaders

Postby gregoryuconn » Mon Feb 18, 2019 4:03 pm

Is it a city with a metro population of 1 million? The metro area has more than 1 million people. The cit proper does not. NYC? LA? Neither of these. Is it on the East Coast? Yes. West Coast? In the midwest? The South? Depends on what you consider the south, but I'd say no. Definite no to rest. In Alaska? Hawaii?
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Re: [gregoryuconn] Hate Mail From Cheerleaders

Postby LemonCurry » Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:44 am

Is there another town or city of the same name? another street of the same name?
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Re: [gregoryuconn] Hate Mail From Cheerleaders

Postby Doriana » Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:50 am

Is the city Washington DC? Are Washington DC addresses relevantly different from the rest of the US?
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Re: [gregoryuconn] Hate Mail From Cheerleaders

Postby gregoryuconn » Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:50 pm

Is there another town or city of the same name? No another street of the same name? Yope!
Is the city Washington DC? Yes! Are Washington DC addresses relevantly different from the rest of the US? There are some other cities with addresses with the relevant characteristic, but it's by no means universal or even close to it.
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Re: [gregoryuconn] Hate Mail From Cheerleaders

Postby GalFisk » Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:05 pm

Is the state of Washington relevant? Does she live in Washington DC? The state of Washington? Another place named Washington?
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Re: [gregoryuconn] Hate Mail From Cheerleaders

Postby LemonCurry » Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:35 pm

Do the addresses in Washington, D.C. consist of some sort of coordinates rather than Street Name and house number? Are they easily mixed up?
Does Michelle live at an address you can get when you get the White House's address wrong?
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Re: [gregoryuconn] Hate Mail From Cheerleaders

Postby gregoryuconn » Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:15 pm

Is the state of Washington relevant? No. Does she live in Washington DC? Yes The state of Washington? Another place named Washington?So no to these.

Do the addresses in Washington, D.C. consist of some sort of coordinates rather than Street Name and house number? Yes. Are they easily mixed up? Yes!.
Does Michelle live at an address you can get when you get the White House's address wrong? YES! And so we're not just playing DC geography trivia, that's really close enough for a


****SPOILER****

The White House is, of course, located at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW in Washington, DC. However, Pennsylvania Avenue also runs through the southeast quadrant, and people often leave the NW off the address, which can cause mail to be redirected to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue SE, where it winds up in the property management office at a 77-unit apartment building. The property manager says they get a lot of mail, both hate and non-hate, mainly addressed to the current President but also addressed to members of the First Family, former Presidents, and even prank mail addressed to dead ones like James Monroe.

See https://www.denverpost.com/2016/07/15/w ... avenue-se/ for more info
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Re: [gregoryuconn] Hate Mail From Cheerleaders *DELIVERED*

Postby trebor » Wed Feb 20, 2019 6:36 pm

Clever! I was looking for something much more complicated than that.
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