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[WiZ] Uncomplimentary

Postby WiZ » Tue Apr 02, 2019 11:30 pm

A waiter brings a complimentary drink to a table. He has chosen an appropriate drink, but he immediately regrets his action. Why?

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Re: [WiZ] Uncomplimentary

Postby irishelk » Wed Apr 03, 2019 1:38 pm

Has anyone at the table asked for a drink? If so, this one? Does he bring it as an apology? As a gesture of appreciation? In celebration? To flirt?

Does he regret it because he realizes it will make someone angry? Upset? Confused? Did he make a mistaken assumption? Is he revealing something that someone at the table doesn't know? Does he personally know anyone at the table?

Has he brought an alcoholic beverage? A relevantly expensive one? One for a child?
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Re: [WiZ] Uncomplimentary

Postby GalFisk » Wed Apr 03, 2019 3:42 pm

Is it an alcoholic drink? Does he regret his action because an accident happens? A mistake? A social blunder? Something unforeseen?
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Re: [WiZ] Uncomplimentary

Postby WiZ » Wed Apr 03, 2019 7:24 pm

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Has anyone at the table asked for a drink? no If so, this one? n/a Does he bring it as an apology? As a gesture of appreciation? In celebration? this; no to rest To flirt?

Does he regret it because he realizes it will make someone angry? Upset? this; no to rest Confused? Did he make a mistaken assumption? yes Is he revealing something that someone at the table doesn't know? no Does he personally know anyone at the table? no

Has he brought an alcoholic beverage? Yes, but not strictly relevant A relevantly expensive one? no One for a child? no

GalFisk

Is it an alcoholic drink? yes, but irrelevant Does he regret his action because an accident happens? no A mistake? yes A social blunder? yes, more accurately Something unforeseen? no
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Re: [WiZ] Uncomplimentary

Postby Balin » Wed Apr 03, 2019 9:03 pm

Does he mistake a woman crying about a breakup as a woman crying about an engagement?
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Re: [WiZ] Uncomplimentary

Postby WiZ » Wed Apr 03, 2019 9:32 pm

Does he mistake a woman crying about a breakup as a woman crying about an engagement? no
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Re: [WiZ] Uncomplimentary

Postby LemonCurry » Thu Apr 04, 2019 5:59 am

Do we need to know more about the patron? The drink? Do other patrons get the same drink? Is something other than the patron and drink relevant? Relevant what else the patron has consumed?
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Re: [WiZ] Uncomplimentary

Postby invisiblemimsy » Sun Apr 07, 2019 10:43 am

Is the drink a flaming brandy? He regrets it because the recipient burns his mouth? Is the occasion relevant?
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Re: [WiZ] Uncomplimentary

Postby WiZ » Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:02 pm

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Do we need to know more about the patron? yes The drink? no Do other patrons get the same drink? irrel Is something other than the patron and drink relevant? yes Relevant what else the patron has consumed? no

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Is the drink a flaming brandy? no/irrel He regrets it because the recipient burns his mouth? no Is the occasion relevant? very
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Re: [WiZ] Uncomplimentary

Postby LemonCurry » Mon Apr 08, 2019 4:49 am

Would a different drink be more appropriate? No complimentary drink at all? Would the drink be fine if it weren‘t free? Money relevant? Could one interpret the free drink as a bribery attempt?
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Re: [WiZ] Uncomplimentary

Postby GalFisk » Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:43 am

Patron: H? A? M? Young? Old? Middle-aged? Relevant? Occasion: happy? Sad? Formal?
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Re: [WiZ] Uncomplimentary

Postby WiZ » Tue Apr 09, 2019 4:23 am

LemonCurry

Would a different drink be more appropriate? no No complimentary drink at all? yes Would the drink be fine if it weren‘t free? no Money relevant? no Could one interpret the free drink as a bribery attempt? no
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Patron: H? A? yes to both M? irrel Young? yes Old? no Middle-aged? potentially Relevant? yes Occasion: happy? yope Sad? yes Formal? noish
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Re: [WiZ] Uncomplimentary

Postby GalFisk » Tue Apr 09, 2019 4:52 am

Yopehappy: honoring someone? Remembering someone? Trying to cheer up someone? Forgetting something for a while?
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Re: [WiZ] Uncomplimentary

Postby LemonCurry » Tue Apr 09, 2019 7:17 am

Would the patron rather leave as soon as possible than having the drink?
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Postby WiZ » Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:14 am

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Yopehappy: honoring someone? Remembering someone? Yes to both, but there's more Trying to cheer up someone? Forgetting something for a while? no to both

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Would the patron rather leave as soon as possible than having the drink? no
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Re: [WiZ] Uncomplimentary

Postby LemonCurry » Wed Apr 10, 2019 6:20 am

Was the patron sad, but other people were happy? WAG: there were free drinks to celebrate the local team winning the championship, but our hero was a supporter of the rivals?
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Postby GalFisk » Wed Apr 10, 2019 7:52 am

Is a conflict relevant? A contest? Winners and losers? Different sides? Peace or reconciliation?
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Re: [WiZ] Uncomplimentary

Postby WiZ » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:44 am

LemonCurry

Was the patron sad, but other people were happy? No, the patron(s) would have all had mixed emotions WAG: there were free drinks to celebrate the local team winning the championship, but our hero was a supporter of the rivals? I like it, but incorrect

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Is a conflict relevant? A contest? Winners and losers? Different sides? no to these Peace or reconciliation? noish to yope
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Re: [WiZ] Uncomplimentary

Postby GalFisk » Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:07 am

Death relevant? Loss? A disaster? A commemoration?
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Re: [WiZ] Uncomplimentary

Postby irishelk » Sun Apr 14, 2019 1:42 pm

Do the mixed emotions have to do with drinks in any way? With money? Maybe an issue involving clean drinking water? Any political issue? Any medical issue?

Is a relevant event occurring at the restaurant? Are the guests at the table just coming from a relevant event? If so, a funeral? Any other commemoration of a dead person? Does the person receiving the drink have a dead loved one? If so, a parent?

Does the waiter think the guest is thirsty? Does he think the guest will be toasting? Does he think having a drink, or this particular drink, would be meaningful for the occasion?
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Re: [WiZ] Uncomplimentary

Postby peter365 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:13 pm

Any relevant language misunderstanding ? Is a specific word/expression used when toasting relevant? like Slainte , Mazel Tov, Cheers, Bottoms Up?

Did the waiter spot that the patron didn't have a drink in front of them?

Does the patron have a medical or physical issue?
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Re: [WiZ] Uncomplimentary

Postby gregoryuconn » Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:33 am

Was it a Celebration of Someone's Life? A combination celebration/funeral reception? A canceled wedding? Because the bride or groom got cold feet? Or cheated on their partner? Or some other scandalous revalation? Did someone die at an unrelated celebration? Was it a funeral reception for someone they all hated but at the same time he's dead so it's kind of awkward to celebrate that? Was it a funeral reception for someone who was executed?
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Re: [WiZ] Uncomplimentary

Postby WiZ » Thu Apr 18, 2019 4:15 am

GalFisk

Death relevant? yes Loss? yes A disaster? no A commemoration? yes

IrishElk

Do the mixed emotions have to do with drinks in any way? With money? Maybe an issue involving clean drinking water? Any political issue? Any medical issue? no to all

Is a relevant event occurring at the restaurant? Are the guests at the table just coming from a relevant event? If so, a funeral? no to all (thinking of 'event' in a formal sense) Any other commemoration of a dead person? yes Does the person receiving the drink have a dead loved one? yes If so, a parent? yes

Does the waiter think the guest is thirsty? Define 'the guest' Does he think the guest will be toasting? no Does he think having a drink, or this particular drink this, would be meaningful for the occasion? yes

Peter

Any relevant language misunderstanding ? Yesish Is a specific word/expression used when toasting relevant? no like Slainte , Mazel Tov, Cheers, Bottoms Up? no to these

Did the waiter spot that the patron didn't have a drink in front of them? irrelevant

Does the patron have a medical or physical issue? no

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Was it a Celebration of Someone's Life? yes A combination celebration/funeral reception? no A canceled wedding? no Because the bride or groom got cold feet? Or cheated on their partner? Or some other scandalous revalation? n/a to all Did someone die at an unrelated celebration? no Was it a funeral reception for someone they all hated but at the same time he's dead so it's kind of awkward to celebrate that? no Was it a funeral reception for someone who was executed? no
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Re: [WiZ] Uncomplimentary

Postby GalFisk » Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:53 am

Relevant what the loved one died from? Where they died? When? Was the loved one a mom? Dad? Relevant?
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Re: [WiZ] Uncomplimentary

Postby irishelk » Thu Apr 18, 2019 2:10 pm

Does the waiter think he is bringing a drink for the dead parent? Not realizing they are dead? Is there a seat reserved for the dead person? Does the child of the deceased (or someone else?) say something that clues the waiter in to the dead person's favorite beverage, without making it clear that person is dead? Or does someone say something to indicate the dead person is thirsty?
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Postby peter365 » Wed Apr 24, 2019 3:10 pm

Is the waiter working as a waiter at the time he does this? Is the person given the drink about to make a speech?

Is there a single relevant dead person? or many? How they died relevant?

Is this something that happens on the anniversary of something or in the immediate aftermath? Wars or conflict relevant?

Relevant what the drink was being served in? type of glass etc.?
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Re: [WiZ] Uncomplimentary

Postby WiZ » Fri Apr 26, 2019 4:30 am

GalFisk

Relevant what the loved one died from? Where they died? When? no to all Was the loved one a mom? Dad? Dad Relevant? I wouldn't get hung up on this detail

IrishElk

Does the waiter think he is bringing a drink for the dead parent? Not realizing they are dead? Yes to both. Why? Is there a seat reserved for the dead person? no Does the child of the deceased (or someone else?) say something that clues the waiter in to the dead person's favorite beverage no, without making it clear that person is dead? But this is the waiter's relevant misunderstanding Or does someone say something to indicate the dead person is thirsty? no

Peter

Is the waiter working as a waiter at the time he does this? yes Is the person given the drink about to make a speech? no

Is there a single relevant dead person? yes or many? no How they died relevant? no

Is this something that happens on the anniversary of something yes or in the immediate aftermath? no Wars or conflict relevant? no

Relevant what the drink was being served in? type of glass etc.? no
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Re: [WiZ] Uncomplimentary

Postby irishelk » Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:24 pm

Is a religious tradition relevant? Or other cultural practice? If so, that the waiter is misinterpreting?

Does the waiter think that one of the people at the table is the dead dad?

Does he think it's the deceased's birthday? IS it the deceased's birthday? And the waiter has never heard of celebrating that after the person passes?
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Postby WiZ » Tue Apr 30, 2019 4:34 am

s a religious tradition relevant? Or other cultural practice? If so, that the waiter is misinterpreting? no to all

Does the waiter think that one of the people at the table is the dead dad? yes, or rather, that the dead dad is at the table

Does he think it's the deceased's birthday? yes IS it the deceased's birthday? yes! And the waiter has never heard of celebrating that after the person passes? not necessarily
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Re: [WiZ] Uncomplimentary

Postby GalFisk » Mon May 06, 2019 10:24 am

Do they toast the deceased? Speak about him? Speak "to" him? Pretend he's there? Save a space for him? Order anything for him? Have gifts for him?
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Postby WiZ » Tue May 07, 2019 4:46 am

Do they toast the deceased? no Speak about him? yes Speak "to" him? no Pretend he's there? no Save a space for him? no Order anything for him? no Have gifts for him? no
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Re: [WiZ] Uncomplimentary

Postby GalFisk » Tue May 07, 2019 9:04 am

Do they say anything specific that gives the waiter the impression that the deceased is present? Or on his way?
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Re: [WiZ] Uncomplimentary

Postby irishelk » Wed May 08, 2019 11:08 am

Did they maybe observe that the deceased does not have a drink?
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Re: [WiZ] Uncomplimentary

Postby WiZ » Thu May 09, 2019 4:05 am

GalFisk

Do they say anything specific that gives the waiter the impression that the deceased is present? yes Or on his way? no

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Did they maybe observe that the deceased does not have a drink? no
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Re: [WiZ] Uncomplimentary

Postby GalFisk » Mon May 13, 2019 1:19 pm

Did they say the name of the deceased? Their relation? Were they all his children? Relevant?
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Postby WiZ » Wed May 15, 2019 4:56 am

Did they say the name of the deceased? Their relation? this Were they all his children? Relevant? irrelevant
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Postby peter365 » Wed May 15, 2019 7:48 am

Did someone say that the deceased was with them menaing in spirit but the waiter took that to mean they were actually present?
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Re: [WiZ] Uncomplimentary

Postby WiZ » Thu May 16, 2019 3:45 am

Did someone say that the deceased was with them menaing in spirit but the waiter took that to mean they were actually present? This is very much the idea, although not the wording. It is relevant that it is the deceased's birthday.
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Re: [WiZ] Uncomplimentary

Postby GalFisk » Thu May 16, 2019 9:59 am

Birthday traditions relevant? If so: celebrating? Gift-giving? Singing?
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Re: [WiZ] Uncomplimentary

Postby peter365 » Thu May 16, 2019 2:37 pm

Darn was logging on to ask if they sang happy birthday to the deceased and I see that Galfisk has beaten me to it.
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Re: [WiZ] Uncomplimentary

Postby WiZ » Fri May 17, 2019 12:31 am

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Birthday traditions relevant? yes If so: celebrating? yes Gift-giving? Singing? no to both

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Darn was logging on to ask if they sang happy birthday to the deceased and I see that Galfisk has beaten me to it. Fortunately, you're still in the game.
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Re: [WiZ] Uncomplimentary

Postby GalFisk » Fri May 17, 2019 8:16 am

Any other traditions relevant besides celebrating?
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Re: [WiZ] Uncomplimentary

Postby irishelk » Wed May 22, 2019 12:37 pm

Do they make comments about the deceased being one year older? Hitting a big "milestone" like 60 or 70? Anything else about his age?

When they say the thing that the waiter misunderstands, are they talking about the deceased's birth? His death? The children's relationships with him? Another birthday that he had while alive? Do they say anything related to drinks or drinking? Anything related to the restaurant? To the waiter?
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Re: [WiZ] Uncomplimentary

Postby WiZ » Sun May 26, 2019 10:27 pm

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Any other traditions relevant besides celebrating? no

IrishElk

Do they make comments about the deceased being one year older? Not in these words, no Hitting a big "milestone" like 60 or 70? no Anything else about his age? nothing about age specifically

When they say the thing that the waiter misunderstands, are they talking about the deceased's birth? yes (or anniversary thereof) His death? The children's relationships with him? Another birthday that he had while alive? no to these Do they say anything related to drinks or drinking? yes Anything related to the restaurant? no To the waiter? there is a relevant bit of dialogue with the waiter
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Re: [WiZ] Uncomplimentary

Postby WiZ » Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:27 pm

Hint: Think about how the dialogue between the waiter and the deceased's son might have unfolded.
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Re: [WiZ] Uncomplimentary

Postby GalFisk » Tue Jun 04, 2019 7:04 am

Does the son say they're here to celebrate the father? That it's the birthday of the father?
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Re: [WiZ] Uncomplimentary

Postby WiZ » Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:19 pm

Does the son say they're here to celebrate the father? That it's the birthday of the father? This!

***** SPOILER *****

The waiter approached a group at a table and asked why they were there. One member said 'To celebrate Dad's birthday'. The waiter asked what Dad's favourite drink was. The son answered, and the waiter prepared the drink on the house.

When the waiter returned, he was met with awkward silence. 'Dad died last year' the son said.

The waiter later mused that this was the sort of thing the son might have told him up front.


Congratulations, GalFisk, on the solution, and thank you everyone for playing!
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