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[CoffeeBean] At The Misfortune Of Others, No. 1

PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2019 7:22 pm
by CoffeeBean
When I was 16 years old, I went somewhere with a friend of mine. While we were there, we discovered that under certain conditions a person in that place could experience a most unfortunate situation. When we saw someone experience this, we found it quite funny, partly because a degree of bravery was required for the person to be in the position to experience the unfortunate situation. When I returned to that place a few years later, I noticed that something had been changed so that what once was a very unfortunate situation would now be, at most, a minor annoyance. And it wouldn't be nearly as funny. Can you guess what it is?

Re: [CoffeeBean] At The Misfortune Of Others, No. 1

PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2019 7:33 pm
by GalFisk
Would the new situation still require the same amount of bravery to get into? Are heights involved? Tight places? Darkness? Electricity? Was the unfortunate situation dangerous? Embarrassing? Did it require outside help to resolve? Were the conditions that could cause it out of the control of the victim? Were the conditions related to weather? If so: ice? Snow? Rain? Wind? Cold? Heat? Mud? Fog? Sleet? Lightning?

Re: [CoffeeBean] At The Misfortune Of Others, No. 1

PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2019 7:38 pm
by CoffeeBean
Would the new situation still require the same amount of bravery to get into? Yes, pretty much
Are heights involved? Yes Tight places? Yes-ish but a certain kind of them Darkness? Electricity? Not these
Was the unfortunate situation dangerous? To some degree Embarrassing? Very! Did it require outside help to resolve? Yes, almost always
Were the conditions that could cause it out of the control of the victim? No, certainly not (but you may want to explore this idea)
Were the conditions related to weather? No
If so: ice? Snow? Rain? Wind? Cold? Heat? Mud? Fog? Sleet? Lightning? Rain and wind could be potentially related

Re: [CoffeeBean] At The Misfortune Of Others, No. 1

PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2019 7:50 pm
by GalFisk
Climbing relevant? Trees? Rocks? Mountains? Buildings? Structures? Narrow ledges? Vehicles? Flooding? Toilets?
Did the change mean that a person could now get themselves out of the situation?
Could a child get into this situation? A teen? Adult? Old person? Could the victim cause the situation by: showing off? Being clumsy? Wearing the wrong thing? Being drunk?

Re: [CoffeeBean] At The Misfortune Of Others, No. 1

PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2019 8:09 pm
by CoffeeBean
Climbing relevant? Trees? Rocks? Mountains? Buildings? Structures? Narrow ledges? Vehicles? Flooding? Toilets? Structures and vehicles, but with a variation...
Did the change mean that a person could now get themselves out of the situation? Not always, but it did likely prevent something from happening
Could a child get into this situation? A teen? These more likely, but... Adult? ...it was an adult that we witnessed get into this situation.
Old person? Sure Could the victim cause the situation by: showing off? This doesn't really cause it, but it does make it funny Being clumsy? In a way, yes, but another term fits better Wearing the wrong thing? Definitely this Being drunk? Probably, but I don't think a drunk person would be in the place where this happened

Re: [CoffeeBean] At The Misfortune Of Others, No. 1

PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2019 8:11 pm
by CoffeeBean
Better answer...
showing off? At certain times this could surely lead to the situation before the change was made

Re: [CoffeeBean] At The Misfortune Of Others, No. 1

PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2019 9:07 pm
by GalFisk
Another term for clumsy: unlucky? Ill-prepared? Afraid of heights? Panicking? Stupid?
Wearing the wrong: footwear? Clothing? Safety or protective equipment? Could a person in the situation be called stuck? Trapped? Caught? Restrained? Cornered? Boxed in? Vehicle: aircraft? Cable car? Elevator? Rail vehicle? Road vehicle? Stunts relevant?

Re: [CoffeeBean] At The Misfortune Of Others, No. 1

PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2019 12:57 am
by CoffeeBean
Another term for clumsy: unlucky? Ill-prepared? This also worksAfraid of heights? Panicking? Stupid? In some cases
Wearing the wrong: footwear? Clothing? Yes, an item of clothingSafety or protective equipment? No

Could a person in the situation be called stuck? Trapped? Caught? Restrained? Cornered? Boxed in? None of these

Vehicle: aircraft? It resembles thisCable car? Elevator? Rail vehicle? Road vehicle? Stunts relevant? No to the rest

Re: [CoffeeBean] At The Misfortune Of Others, No. 1

PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2019 4:54 am
by GalFisk
Something resembling aircraft: something that flies? Glides? Gets lifted into the air? A toy? Playground equipment? An amusement ride? Something resembling an airplane? Helicopter? Balloon? Parachute? Rocket? Does the vehicle move? If so, under the power of: muscles? Electricity? Fuel? Rocket fuel? Gravity? Compressed air? Is the victim in/on the vehicle? Controlling the vehicle?

Re: [CoffeeBean] At The Misfortune Of Others, No. 1

PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2019 7:07 am
by Earnest
Are amousement parks relevant? Skirts? Gravity involved? Budgee jumping? Being caught up relevant? Sweating? Bath suits relevant? Sliding down? Diving from a certain height and lose the bath suit?
Skyscrapers relevant? Bridges? Glass? Airplanes? Elevators? Hats relevant? Iron? Jewels? Magnet and braces on teeth? Scarf? Mountains relevant?

Animals involved? (E.g. birds trying to catch toupee)

Could the situation be experienced by refusing of doing something? By simply finding in that place without doing anything rather than wearing the relevant clothing? Could the unforunate situation be defined as an expression of fear (e.g. urinate in the middle of a swimming pool)

Changes in fashion/style relevant? Was the unfortunate situation mostly experienced by men? Women? Both? Are pictures been taken in the place?

When I returned to that place a few years later, I noticed that something had been changed --> new safety items? New rules? Changings in the place? In the dress code required? Signs indicating the risk of experiencing the unfortunate situation? New technologies? No more pictures taken?

Re: [CoffeeBean] At The Misfortune Of Others, No. 1

PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2019 12:33 pm
by CoffeeBean
Something resembling aircraft: something that flies? The actual thing does, yes Glides? Gets lifted into the air? Both do this, yesA toy? Playground equipment? An amusement ride? This Something resembling an airplane? Helicopter? Balloon? Parachute? Rocket? A variation of this

Does the vehicle move? Yes If so, under the power of: muscles? Electricity? ThisFuel? Rocket fuel? Gravity? Partly thisCompressed air? Is the victim in/on the vehicle? In it Controlling the vehicle? No

Re: [CoffeeBean] At The Misfortune Of Others, No. 1

PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:40 am
by GalFisk
Does the vehicle move on a track? Rotate around a hub? Move up and down? Does it fit one person? Is there more than one of them? Can more than one person be in this situation at the same time? Does someone in the vehicle experience speed? Height? Rotation? Confinement? Darkness? Fun? Scariness?

Re: [CoffeeBean] At The Misfortune Of Others, No. 1

PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2019 2:54 pm
by CoffeeBean
Does the vehicle move on a track? Rotate around a hub? This Move up and down? Yes, but in a specific way Does it fit one person? No Is there more than one of them? No Can more than one person be in this situation at the same time? Yes, very likely
Does someone in the vehicle experience speed? Height? Rotation? Confinement? Darkness? Fun? Scariness? No to "darkness" but yes to all the rest

Re: [CoffeeBean] At The Misfortune Of Others, No. 1

PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:32 pm
by GalFisk
Does it swing? Jump? Undulate? Shake? Flip over? Loop? Shoot upwards? Fall down? Move unpredictably? In the unfortunate situation, would the ride be stuck? The rider be stuck?

Re: [CoffeeBean] At The Misfortune Of Others, No. 1

PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:24 pm
by CoffeeBean
Does it swing? Part of the time, yes Jump? Undulate? Shake? Not these
Flip over? Loop? Both of these, yes
Shoot upwards? Fall down? In a way
Move unpredictably? No, it is a very regular and predictable movement
In the unfortunate situation, would the ride be stuck? Not exactly but OTRT The rider be stuck? No

Re: [CoffeeBean] At The Misfortune Of Others, No. 1

PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 3:52 pm
by GalFisk
In the unfortunate situation, would the movement of the ride be affected? Would it stall on the highest point? Most upside down point? Are those points the same?

Re: [CoffeeBean] At The Misfortune Of Others, No. 1

PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:15 pm
by CoffeeBean
In the unfortunate situation, would the movement of the ride be affected? No
Would it stall on the highest point? Most upside down point? Are those points the same? Yes, and the ride does stall at this point. The misfortune occurs right around this point in time.

Re: [CoffeeBean] At The Misfortune Of Others, No. 1

PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:20 pm
by GalFisk
Is it supposed to stall at this point? Is someone not properly using the restraints then dropped on their head? Otherwise incapacitated?

Re: [CoffeeBean] At The Misfortune Of Others, No. 1

PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 2:15 pm
by CoffeeBean
Is it supposed to stall at this point? Yes
Is someone not properly using the restraints then dropped on their head? Otherwise incapacitated? No to these

Re: [CoffeeBean] At The Misfortune Of Others, No. 1

PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2019 6:02 am
by GalFisk
Is the predicament caused by being upside down? By not following instructions? Restraints relevant? Things falling? Losing stuff from pockets?

Re: [CoffeeBean] At The Misfortune Of Others, No. 1

PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2019 3:52 pm
by CoffeeBean
Is the predicament caused by being upside down?
Yes
By not following instructions? Partly
Restraints relevant? No
Things falling? YES Losing stuff from pockets? YES

Re: [CoffeeBean] At The Misfortune Of Others, No. 1

PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2019 4:16 pm
by GalFisk
Does the stuff lost end up in an inaccessible place? Was the issue fixed with a stuff catcher? New restraint that covered up one's pockets?

Re: [CoffeeBean] At The Misfortune Of Others, No. 1

PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 3:03 pm
by CoffeeBean
Does the stuff lost end up in an inaccessible place? Sometimes
Was the issue fixed with a stuff catcher? YES New restraint that covered up one's pockets? No

** SPOILER **

An amusement park near our town used to have a ride called the "Looping Starship", and it resembled NASA's space shuttle. The ride held approx. 60 people at a time, and it worked by swinging the ship back and forth, at one point holding it completely upside down before looping it a few times. When I rode it with my friend, we got a big laugh when the ship stopped at the upside down point and we saw someone's wallet fall through the air and money and other things it in scattered. Not funny to the person who lost it, I'm sure. When I went back to the park a few years later, there were warning signs about securing personal belongings, and a "stuff catcher" net had been added just above the seating area to catch any objects that might fall from pockets when the ride paused upside down.


Nice work by Galfisk to solve quickly