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[WiZ] The Ghost of Birthday Presents (OAATP)

PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 8:46 pm
by WiZ
A man buys himself a gift to treat himself on his birthday. He then gets a surprise visit from his parents, who have bought him an identical gift. At first annoyed, he is later delighted. Why?

BOATS. Caveat Earlispoilor. OAATP rules apply.

Re: [WiZ] The Ghost of Birthday Presents (OAATP)

PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 6:53 am
by Earnest
Was the gift somthing that is commonly bought for birthdays/ whose value is proportional to the quantity directly or indirecrly? (E.g. cookies = directly because the more i have the more i can eat. Clothing indirectly because at first the more identical i have and no value is added, but then one realizes that he/she could dress the same the double of time washing half of times)

Re: [WiZ] The Ghost of Birthday Presents (OAATP)

PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:55 am
by invisiblemimsy
Can we assume the item/s in question are cats? :-D

Re: [WiZ] The Ghost of Birthday Presents (OAATP)

PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:01 pm
by WiZ
Earnest

Was the gift somthing that is commonly bought for birthdays yes/ whose value is proportional to the quantity directly or indirecrly? (E.g. cookies = directly because the more i have the more i can eat. Clothing indirectly because at first the more identical i have and no value is added, but then one realizes that he/she could dress the same the double of time washing half of times) almost invariably no

InvisibleMimsy

Can we assume the item/s in question are cats? no

Re: [WiZ] The Ghost of Birthday Presents (OAATP)

PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:58 pm
by invisiblemimsy
Is it something which transforms or improves the more you buy? E.g. lego

Re: [WiZ] The Ghost of Birthday Presents (OAATP)

PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:13 pm
by WiZ
Is it something which transforms or improves the more you buy? E.g. lego no

Re: [WiZ] The Ghost of Birthday Presents (OAATP)

PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 5:43 am
by trebor
Is the gift edible?

Re: [WiZ] The Ghost of Birthday Presents (OAATP)

PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:35 am
by GalFisk
Does he end up using both gifts the same way? Different ways? Only using one?

Re: [WiZ] The Ghost of Birthday Presents (OAATP)

PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 1:27 pm
by Earnest
Was he annoyed before having seen the gift of the parents? A moment after? Before having considered that he could have a benefit by having two identical gifts rather than just one?
Same q. for "delighted" rather than "annoyed".

Re: [WiZ] The Ghost of Birthday Presents (OAATP)

PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2019 8:05 pm
by Westing1992
Does he keep the two gifts in separate locations? Is it something he'd like to have in both places but is too bulky/awkward/at risk of being stolen to constantly have to move?

Re: [WiZ] The Ghost of Birthday Presents (OAATP)

PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:51 pm
by gregoryuconn
Did he sell one of the items? If so, was he originally planning on doing so when his parents gave him the gift? Or perhaps it suddenly increased on value for some reason after he received it?

Re: [WiZ] The Ghost of Birthday Presents (OAATP)

PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:11 pm
by WiZ
Trebor

Is the gift edible? no

GalFisk

Does he end up using both gifts the same way? yes Different ways? Only using one? no to both

Earnest

Was he annoyed before having seen the gift of the parents? no A moment after? yes Before having considered that he could have a benefit by having two identical gifts rather than just one? yope
Same q. for "delighted" rather than "annoyed". This is a second question

Westing

Does he keep the two gifts in separate locations? no Is it something he'd like to have in both places but is too bulky/awkward/at risk of being stolen to constantly have to move? n/a

GregoryUConn

Did he sell one of the items? no If so, was he originally planning on doing so when his parents gave him the gift? Or perhaps it suddenly increased on value for some reason after he received it? n/a

Re: [WiZ] The Ghost of Birthday Presents (OAATP)

PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 7:33 am
by Earnest
Is the gift: clothing? Book? Piece of furniture? Car? Travel? Relaxing activity? Ticket for an event (e.g. as a WAG I would say he ended up with two tickets for two people)? Related to technology?

Re: [WiZ] The Ghost of Birthday Presents (OAATP)

PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 11:28 am
by GalFisk
Does he end up using them: in the same place? At the same time? One in each hand?

Re: [WiZ] The Ghost of Birthday Presents (OAATP)

PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:20 pm
by WiZ
Earnest

Is the gift: clothing? Book? Piece of furniture? Car? Travel? Relaxing activity? no to these Ticket for an event (e.g. as a WAG I would say he ended up with two tickets for two people)? no but ORT Related to technology? only indirectly

GalFisk

Does he end up using them: in the same place? At the same time? yes to both One in each hand? irrelevant

Re: [WiZ] The Ghost of Birthday Presents (OAATP)

PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:56 am
by Earnest
Is it related to: sport? Pictures? Payments? Something that gives the right to do something? To do something in a certain amount of time per item (the gift) owned? Something that is more in quantity the more items are owned (e.g. discounts)? Buying stuffs? Taking part to an event?

Re: [WiZ] The Ghost of Birthday Presents (OAATP)

PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 4:01 pm
by GalFisk
Would using both at the same time be: useful? Efficient? Produtive? Dumb? Funny? Silly? Unusual? Practical? Impractical? Normal?

Re: [WiZ] The Ghost of Birthday Presents (OAATP)

PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 12:45 am
by WiZ
Earnest

Is it related to: sport? Pictures? no to both Payments? yes Something that gives the right to do something? yes, although this is vague To do something in a certain amount of time per item (the gift) owned? no Something that is more in quantity the more items are owned (e.g. discounts)? under most circumstances, no Buying stuffs? no Taking part to an event? noish

GalFisk

Would using both at the same time be: useful? Efficient? Produtive? Dumb? Funny? Silly? Unusual? Practical? Impractical? no to all, assuming a scenario in which one has two to use Normal? yes

Re: [WiZ] The Ghost of Birthday Presents (OAATP)

PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 5:36 am
by Earnest
Roundtrip tickets relevant (assuming the parents already knew what he bought in a first instance)? Scratch cards? Stamps? Duty stamps? Collections? Barcodes? Codes? Pin? Passwords? Pay the rest of something relevant? Something usually bought all together? In pairs?

Re: [WiZ] The Ghost of Birthday Presents (OAATP)

PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:57 pm
by trebor
Lottery/raffle tickets?

Re: [WiZ] The Ghost of Birthday Presents (OAATP)

PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:14 pm
by WiZ
Earnest

Roundtrip tickets relevant (assuming the parents already knew what he bought in a first instance)? no Scratch cards? No, but VERY ORT Stamps? Duty stamps? Collections? Barcodes? Codes? Pin? Passwords? Pay the rest of something relevant? no to these Something usually bought all together? In pairs? no to both

Trebor

Lottery yes/raffle tickets?

***** SPOILER *****

He had bought himself a Lotto ticket with his usual numbers. His parents had done the same. He initially thinks he has wasted his money, but then his numbers come up. There is only one other person with the same winning numbers, so he scoops 2/3 of the jackpot rather than 1/2.


Congratulations, Trebor, on the solution, and thank you everyone for playing!

Re: [WiZ] The Ghost of Birthday Presents (OAATP) [NUMBER'S U

PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:56 am
by invisiblemimsy
Ingenious!

Re: [WiZ] The Ghost of Birthday Presents (OAATP) [NUMBER'S U

PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 6:02 pm
by Earnest
Cool!