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[Hobbsicle] Wonderwall

Postby Hobbsicle » Fri Jan 24, 2020 10:53 pm

Why did a crowd of people come from miles around to stare at an average, featureless wall?

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Re: [Hobbsicle] Wonderwall

Postby Earnest » Sat Jan 25, 2020 7:53 am

Is Israel relevant? Asia? China? USA? Europe? Is the wall recently build? Is it part of ruins? Ancient ruins? Ruins of a recent wall? Is war relevant? Bombs? Was the wall under construction? Did people expect to stare in front of a wall ? Did they know that it has been build? (e.g. migrants hoping to cross a boundary)

Do people gather together? Pray? Wait for something? Look for something? Search something? Do they have something in common? The job? Journalists? Photographers? Do they climb over the wall? Do they go up the wall (e.g. to better see something)? Do they escape? Do they expect something to happen? Do they go there every day? Once in a lifetime? Religion relevant? Culture?

come from miles --> do all people come from milestones stare at the wall? Had they come from nearby, would the puzzle still work? Is the wall in a desert? Is it part of a building? Is it higher than an average man? does it define a boundary? Is the wall made of stones? Can we assume so? Are there holes? If so are the holes used to share objects?

Are people interested in the wall? In a panorama? Sunrise? Others?
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Re: [Hobbsicle] Wonderwall

Postby GalFisk » Sat Jan 25, 2020 1:53 pm

Did they see the wall in average, featureless light? Was something projected on the wall?
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Re: [Hobbsicle] Wonderwall

Postby Hobbsicle » Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:42 pm

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Is Israel relevant? Asia? China? USA? Europe? It takes place in Europe, though you don’t necessarily need specifics to solve Is the wall recently build? No Is it part of ruins? No Ancient ruins? Ruins of a recent wall? Is war relevant? No Bombs? No Was the wall under construction? No Did people expect to stare in front of a wall ? Yes Did they know that it has been build? They knew it was there, yes (e.g. migrants hoping to cross a boundary)

Do people gather together? Technically yes, but not officially Pray? No Wait for something? No Look for something? No Search something? No Do they have something in common? Only that they are there for the same reason The job? Journalists? Photographers? No to all Do they climb over the wall? No Do they go up the wall (e.g. to better see something)? No Do they escape? I’m sure they leave again at some point, but not “escaping” Do they expect something to happen? No Do they go there every day? No or probably not Once in a lifetime? Maybe Religion relevant? No Culture? Yope

come from miles --> do all people come from milestones stare at the wall? Had they come from nearby, would the puzzle still work? Yes, they came from varying distances Is the wall in a desert? No Is it part of a building? Yes Is it higher than an average man? Yes does it define a boundary? Not more than most walls Is the wall made of stones? No Can we assume so? No Are there holes? Not relevantly If so are the holes used to share objects?

Are people interested in the wall? Yope In a panorama? No Sunrise? No Others? There is more involved

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Did they see the wall in average, featureless light? Yes Was something projected on the wall? No
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Re: [Hobbsicle] Wonderwall

Postby WiZ » Mon Jan 27, 2020 7:49 pm

Does anything happen to the wall while they are looking at it? Do they look at the wall to avoid looking at something else? Does the wall-looking form part of a greater activity?

Are they there largely as professionals? Tourists? Hobbyists? Devotees? People with a familial/friendly/local connection? Representatives of some sort? Are they somehow compelled to be there?

Is the nature of the building relevant? Is it a private house? Some sort of civic building?

Is the material of the wall relevant? Is it a glass wall? Do they see something relevant through it?
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Re: [Hobbsicle] Wonderwall

Postby Earnest » Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:30 pm

Is it part of a building? Yes --> are people interested in the building? do people want to hide? DO they enter inside the building? is the wall still present? Did it happen once? Berlin Wall relevant? Is it a border wall?

Tunnels relevant? earthquakes?

WAG: the wall was a border wall under construction. By placing themselves there people prevented workers to carry on its construction.
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Re: [Hobbsicle] Wonderwall

Postby Balin » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:50 pm

Berlin Wall at all relevant?
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Re: [Hobbsicle] Wonderwall

Postby Hobbsicle » Tue Jan 28, 2020 3:41 pm

WiZ

Does anything happen to the wall while they are looking at it? No Do they look at the wall to avoid looking at something else? No Does the wall-looking form part of a greater activity? Not really, no, though they may do other things

Are they there largely as professionals? Tourists? This Hobbyists? Devotees? People with a familial/friendly/local connection? Representatives of some sort? No or irrel to rest Are they somehow compelled to be there? No

Is the nature of the building relevant? Yes Is it a private house? No Some sort of civic building? Yes, I believe it is

Is the material of the wall relevant? Not really, assume plaster or something Is it a glass wall? No Do they see something relevant through it? No

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Is it part of a building? Yes --> are people interested in the building? Perhaps, but not necessarily do people want to hide? No DO they enter inside the building? Yes is the wall still present? Yes Did it happen once? Multiple times, but during a definite period Berlin Wall relevant? No Is it a border wall? No

Tunnels relevant? earthquakes? No to both

WAG: the wall was a border wall under construction. By placing themselves there people prevented workers to carry on its construction. Good thought, but no

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Berlin Wall at all relevant? No
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Re: [Hobbsicle] Wonderwall

Postby Balin » Wed Jan 29, 2020 1:56 am

Is the wall functioning when the people come to stare at it?
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Re: [Hobbsicle] Wonderwall

Postby Earnest » Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:58 am

Multiple times, but during a definite period --> Christmas? Easter? A religious celebration? Memorial Day? When there is low tide (e.g. the wall is part of a building which is submerged for the most part of the Year)? When a natural phenomenon happens? When an event/celebration/commemoration happens? Religion/culture relevant?


Shoha relevant? Concentration camps? Names of victims on the wall? Is the wall long? Large? High? Can it be easily overcome without a permission? Are there graffiti/some form of art on it? Do people simply wait their turn for something? Do people form a row? barbed wire relevant? Does the wall have a gate? Do people stare at the wall because they are required to do so? Because they are forced to do so? Because they want to do so? Because they read something? Do they look at the wall silent? Do they commemorate someone? Do they take pictures? Are they photographed? Memorial Wall? Death Wall? Do people belong to different nationality? Are people happy in front of the wall? Sad? Angry? Indifferent? Is a movie projected on the wall? Reflections on the wall?

Do they come to the wall by foot? Is the wall a sort of spot for pilgrims? a stage of a travel? Is it placed in a strategic place? Is the Wall the starting point of a tour? The ending point? Do they hear something coming from the other side of the wall?

Building = a memorial? A tombstone? a bank? An hotel? a museum? an historical building? a modern building? a stadium? a palace? a church? a restaurant?
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Re: [Hobbsicle] Wonderwall

Postby Hobbsicle » Wed Jan 29, 2020 6:42 pm

Balin

Is the wall functioning when the people come to stare at it? It is preventing passage from all but the least corporeal, and might be helping hold up a ceiling. So, I think so, yes.

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Multiple times, but during a definite period --> Christmas? Easter? A religious celebration? Memorial Day? When there is low tide (e.g. the wall is part of a building which is submerged for the most part of the Year)? When a natural phenomenon happens? When an event/celebration/commemoration happens? Religion/culture relevant? Sorry, my answer may have been misleading. It isn’t likely to happen anymore, but it happened more than once over a particular period of time, and not related to anything above

Shoha relevant? Concentration camps? Names of victims on the wall? No to these Is the wall long? Large? High? Not relevantly any of these Can it be easily overcome without a permission? Not sure what “overcome” might mean, but I think it might not be the kind of wall you’re thinking Are there graffiti/some form of art on it? No Do people simply wait their turn for something? No Do people form a row? No barbed wire relevant? No Does the wall have a gate? Possibly something like this, but not relevantly nearby Do people stare at the wall because they are required to do so? No Because they are forced to do so? No Because they want to do so? Yes Because they read something? No Do they look at the wall silent? Irrel, maybe Do they commemorate someone? No Do they take pictures? No Are they photographed? No Memorial Wall? Death Wall? No to both Do people belong to different nationality? Irrel Are people happy in front of the wall? Sad? Angry? Indifferent? Emotions might vary, but all of these might play slight roles. Doubtful those emotions are strong Is a movie projected on the wall? No Reflections on the wall? No

Do they come to the wall by foot? At least partially Is the wall a sort of spot for pilgrims? No a stage of a travel? No Is it placed in a strategic place? Only in that it is a part of something larger Is the Wall the starting point of a tour? The ending point? Neither, but touring is relevant Do they hear something coming from the other side of the wall? No

Building = a memorial? A tombstone? a bank? An hotel? a museum? This an historical building? a modern building? a stadium? a palace? a church? a restaurant?
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Re: [Hobbsicle] Wonderwall

Postby GalFisk » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:07 pm

History relevant? Are they reenacting something? Admiring something? Emulating someone? Is the wall part of an experience?
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Re: [Hobbsicle] Wonderwall

Postby Hobbsicle » Thu Jan 30, 2020 2:44 pm

History relevant? To a certain degree, yes Are they reenacting something? No Admiring something? Not really, though somewhat Emulating someone? No Is the wall part of an experience? Tough to answer, a little vague, I probably wouldn't put it that way, but I think it would technically be correct
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Re: [Hobbsicle] Wonderwall

Postby GalFisk » Thu Jan 30, 2020 5:05 pm

Historical person relevant? Historical event? Religion? If a person or event is relevant, did the wall in question exist when the event happened or the person was well known? Do people speak when watching the wall? Are they spoken to? Told about the wall? If anyone wanted to remove the wall, would there be protests, beyond those about how the building is affected by this?
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Re: [Hobbsicle] Wonderwall

Postby Earnest » Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:33 am

Does the wall reproduce something? Cover something? Is it part of the museum? Inside the museum? Part of a piece exposed in the museum? Or maybe a picture is hanged on the wall but occupied just a bit of it so that crowded people wait for their turn staring at the wall (e.g. Monna Lisa at Louvre)? Or maybe the wall itself is a piece of art? Or maybe it contains some information? a map? Or maybe and this is a sort of wag, they stand air the corner of the wall to ear the echo of people on the opposite corner
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Re: [Hobbsicle] Wonderwall

Postby Hobbsicle » Sat Feb 01, 2020 11:12 pm

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Historical person relevant? Only in a sense Historical event? Yes Religion? No If a person or event is relevant, did the wall in question exist when the event happened or the person was well known? During an event, and there are well-known people indirectly involved Do people speak when watching the wall? They might, not relevantly Are they spoken to? Same Told about the wall? Probably not, unless by someone they came with If anyone wanted to remove the wall, would there be protests, beyond those about how the building is affected by this? Not by many, I imagine

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Does the wall reproduce something? No Cover something? No Is it part of the museum? Yes Inside the museum? Yes Part of a piece exposed in the museum? No...ish Or maybe a picture is hanged on the wall but occupied just a bit of it so that crowded people wait for their turn staring at the wall (e.g. Monna Lisa at Louvre)? Not this, but your example is very relevant Or maybe the wall itself is a piece of art? No Or maybe it contains some information? a map? Or maybe and this is a sort of wag, they stand air the corner of the wall to ear the echo of people on the opposite corner No to rest
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Re: [Hobbsicle] Wonderwall

Postby trebor » Sat Feb 01, 2020 11:55 pm

Are they staring at where the Mona Lisa used to be, during one of the times it was stolen?

Are they staring at part of a wall that has significance and has been incorporated in the actual wall of the museum?
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Re: [Hobbsicle] Wonderwall

Postby Earnest » Sun Feb 02, 2020 10:12 am

I like trebor idea...but in case....

your example is very relevant --> are people interested in a piece of art? Or maybe they are passioned of something else? Is Mona Lisa relevant at all? Do they take pictures to the wall? Was the wall relevantly touched by someone? Was a picture/piece of art hanged on the wall? Is it still hanged on it? maybe the piece of art was an empty frame: people hence looking at it seemed to be staring in front of the wall...? Are mirrors relevant?

Are social media relevant? Maybe famous people made a picture in front of such a wall? Was it part of a bigger wall? Was the wall build up with the museum (i.e. it was as old as the museum)?
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Re: [Hobbsicle] Wonderwall

Postby Hobbsicle » Mon Feb 03, 2020 3:53 am

I'll cut to the chase with trebor's question:

Are they staring at where the Mona Lisa used to be, during one of the times it was stolen? Yes!

----------------------SPOILER-----------------------

When the Mona Lisa was stolen from the Louvre in Paris in 1911, it created a sensation, with stories of the theft and photos of the painting filling local and international newspapers. Then, for the first time, there were queues outside the Louvre, with crowds of curious onlookers coming just to gaze at the vacant wall where the painting had hung.


Good work all, and to trebor for the final piece.
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