[WiZ] The OAATPs will continue until morale improves

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[WiZ] The OAATPs will continue until morale improves

Postby WiZ » Tue May 12, 2020 12:42 am

A single man spends several hours a day working from home. Every evening, he goes and sleeps in a cheap motel or campground. Why?

BOATS. Caveat Earlispoilor. OAATP rules apply.
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Postby GalFisk » Tue May 12, 2020 5:46 am

WAG: is he a chemist or similar, seeking refuge from fumes, smells or other hazards?
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Postby gregoryuconn » Tue May 12, 2020 1:40 pm

Rules about working from home relevant? Is he prohibited from working from Home by company policy or law? Or required to have a commute of some sort? Perhaps to use a benefit? And by staying at a hotel or campground technically he’s not working from home?
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Postby WiZ » Wed May 13, 2020 3:53 am

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WAG: is he a chemist or similar, seeking refuge from fumes, smells or other hazards? no

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Rules about working from home relevant? no
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Postby GalFisk » Wed May 13, 2020 3:57 am

Is he getting around some rule or regulation?
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Postby LemonCurry » Wed May 13, 2020 6:30 am

Is the sleeping outside part of his job?
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Postby Earnest » Wed May 13, 2020 7:01 am

Wiz in OAATPs I guess is forbidden also to do something like "relevant: [a series of not necessarily connected facts/events]", right? While a list of questions related to the same subject like the one I am doing below is allowed, correct?

Is it because: he could not sleep in his house? His house was formally a motel? For his own security? Because he was followed by spies? Because he wanted to make a trap to someone (e.g. by leaving the PC at his house) or to an animal? Because he did not pay the last bill and run out of electric current? Because he has a financial gain in exploiting the minimal services of the motel (e.g. free wi-fi and charge for his phone and laptop)? Because something happens in the night in his house or in nearby? Because he fears something to happen? Because he knows the owner of the motel? Because, as a priest, he works in the "house of God" but cannot sleep there? Because someone else sleeps in his house? Because he could create an alibi? Others?
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Postby WiZ » Thu May 14, 2020 2:36 am

GalFisk

Is he getting around some rule or regulation? no

LemonCurry

Is the sleeping outside part of his job? no

Earnest

Wiz in OAATPs I guess is forbidden also to do something like "relevant: [a series of not necessarily connected facts/events]", right? right While a list of questions related to the same subject like the one I am doing below is allowed, correct?

I will say 'no' to this one, on the grounds that the question in the puzzle is why, and all the 'variables' you propose are predicated only by because. Given that because is the start of any and all answers to any and all why questions, you are, in effect, simply proposing a string of guesses.

So, I will answer the first one:


Is it because: he could not sleep in his house? no
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Postby GalFisk » Thu May 14, 2020 6:33 am

Does he do this because he: wants to? Has to? Is paid to? Is forced to?
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Postby WiZ » Thu May 14, 2020 8:30 am

Does he do this because he: wants to? yes Has to? Is paid to? no to both Is forced to? and also yes, funnily enough
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Postby GalFisk » Thu May 14, 2020 1:31 pm

Forced by: himself? Another person? Animal(s)? Circumstances? Something related to the work he does at home?
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Postby LemonCurry » Thu May 14, 2020 7:09 pm

Would it be impossible to sleep at home? Dangerous? Unpleasant? Embarrassing?
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Postby WiZ » Thu May 14, 2020 8:54 pm

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Forced by: himself? Another person? Animal(s)? Circumstances? this Something related to the work he does at home? no to rest

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Would it be impossible to sleep at home? no Dangerous? somewhat Unpleasant? yes Embarrassing? yes, but irrelevant
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Postby LemonCurry » Fri May 15, 2020 6:12 am

Is his home a house? Flat? Cabin? Caravan? Tent? Igloo?
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Postby Earnest » Fri May 15, 2020 7:43 am

Given that because is the start of any and all answers to any and all why questions, you are, in effect, simply proposing a string of guesses. --> I see. Sorry for that and thanks for the clarification

Circumstances = neighbors? broken windows? weather? natural event? sounds/noises? legal restrictions? laws? private property violation? absence of a bed? the riskiness of his work? the physical impossibility to sleep in the house? physical conditions? sleepwalking? sleepwalking in a 5th floor apartment?
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Postby GalFisk » Fri May 15, 2020 9:41 am

Unpleasant: noisy? Smelly? Too bright? Uncomfortable? Dusty? Dirty? Wet? Windy?
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Postby WiZ » Sat May 16, 2020 2:36 am

LemonCurry

Is his home a house? Flat? Cabin? Caravan? Tent? Igloo? no to all :)

Earnest

I see. Sorry for that and thanks for the clarification This sort of thing is helpful, actually; you never know how strict you need to make the rules until people start finding ways to get around them :)

Circumstances = neighbors? broken windows? weather? natural event? sounds/noises? legal restrictions? laws? private property violation? absence of a bed? yope to this the riskiness of his work? the physical impossibility to sleep in the house? physical conditions? sleepwalking? sleepwalking in a 5th floor apartment? no to rest

This is, admittedly, a bit difficult to answer due to 'circumstances' affecting both his decision and the context, and the two being dependent on completely different factors!

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Unpleasant: noisy? potentially Smelly? likely not Too bright? potentially Uncomfortable? this, most relevantly Dusty? Dirty? likely not to both Wet? Windy? potentially
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Postby GalFisk » Sat May 16, 2020 4:09 am

Absence of a comfortable bed? Comfortable bedroom?
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Postby LemonCurry » Sat May 16, 2020 6:07 am

Has he made his workplace his official home?
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Postby WiZ » Sun May 17, 2020 8:59 pm

GalFisk

Absence of a comfortable bed? Comfortable bedroom? yes to both

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Has he made his workplace his official home? no (at least, not in that causal order)
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Postby GalFisk » Mon May 18, 2020 4:39 am

Is his home in the process of being built?
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Postby WiZ » Mon May 18, 2020 10:14 pm

Is his home in the process of being built? no
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Postby GalFisk » Tue May 19, 2020 6:26 am

Renovated? Painted? Something similar?
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Postby Earnest » Tue May 19, 2020 8:10 am

Did he make his official home his workplace and now leaved in the garage with a not hygienic folding sofa as a bed? I don't know like couch surfing or something along these lines...
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Postby WiZ » Wed May 20, 2020 5:47 am

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Renovated? Painted? Something similar? no to all

Earnest

Did he make his official home his workplace and now leaved in the garage with a not hygienic folding sofa as a bed? I don't know like couch surfing or something along these lines... no
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Postby GalFisk » Wed May 20, 2020 8:40 am

Does the home have: no bedroom? Damaged bedroom? Uncomfortable bedroom?
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Postby WiZ » Wed May 20, 2020 8:43 am

Does the home have: no bedroom? It has nothing that would normally be considered or designated a bedroom Damaged bedroom? no Uncomfortable bedroom? no
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Postby GalFisk » Wed May 20, 2020 8:49 am

Is it an office? A store? A warehouse? A temporary building?
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Postby WiZ » Wed May 20, 2020 9:08 am

Is it an office? A store? A warehouse? A temporary building? no to all
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Postby LemonCurry » Wed May 20, 2020 10:59 am

Is his home a vehicle?
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Postby WiZ » Thu May 21, 2020 4:16 am

Is his home a vehicle? yes!
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Postby GalFisk » Thu May 21, 2020 5:17 am

Is he living in a car? Van? Truck? Bus? Excavator? Bulldozer?
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Postby WiZ » Thu May 21, 2020 7:37 am

Is he living in a car? yes Van? Truck? both of these are also possible Bus? Excavator? Bulldozer? no to both
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Postby Earnest » Thu May 21, 2020 10:28 am

Ok, since I have a criminal mind, I thought about another possible workaround on OAATP rules: what if I comment without asking if someone else ask a question? Like for instance "maybe someone else could ask whether he ..." ?

Assuming that he drives the car and he had not enough money to buy an house, does he use his car only as an house or as: a mean of transport? for his work (e.g. Uber or taxi driver; police officer; for advertising a shop through the car; Google Earth cars; pilot... )? for occupying parking lots? for following someone? for transporting something/someone? for not being noticed/seen? as part of a costume? for deliveries?
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Postby WiZ » Thu May 21, 2020 9:27 pm

Ok, since I have a criminal mind, I thought about another possible workaround on OAATP rules: what if I comment without asking if someone else ask a question? Like for instance "maybe someone else could ask whether he ..." ? I'll allow it, but it would be entirely up to the other forum user whether or not they actually went ahead and asked the question.

Assuming that he drives the car and he had not enough money to buy an house both correct, does he use his car only as an house no or as: a mean of transport? for his work (e.g. Uber yes, this or taxi driver; police officer; for advertising a shop through the car; Google Earth cars; pilot... )? for occupying parking lots? for following someone? for transporting something/someone? for not being noticed/seen? as part of a costume? for deliveries? and this - Uber Eats was the real-world scenario


***** SPOILER *****

The man is poor and lives in his car. He takes on delivery gig work during the day, and uses his earnings to find a comfortable place to sleep at night (with showers, washing machines, wifi access etc).


Congratulations to Earnest on the solution, and GalFisk on the lion's share of the legwork.
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