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[GalFisk] I'll be brief

PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:13 am
by GalFisk
If we were in the UK, you'd wear underpants.

Re: [GalFisk] I'll be brief

PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:09 pm
by hominid
"You"=impersonal you? Me, as the reader? Us, as the readers? A specific person who is a character in the puzzle? Multiple people, who are characters in the puzzle?

"We"=inclusive we? Exclusive we? Are you, GalFisk, included?

Is the "you" person actually not wearing underpants? Or are they wearing clothes over their underpants? If "we" were in the UK, would "you" be wearing other clothes? Or just underpants?

Re: [GalFisk] I'll be brief

PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:17 pm
by GalFisk
"You"=impersonal you? Me, as the reader? Us, as the readers? A specific person who is a character in the puzzle? Noish/yope, DOYD. Multiple people, who are characters in the puzzle? No to the rest.

"We"=inclusive we? Yes. Exclusive we? So no. Are you, GalFisk, included? Yes.

Is the "you" person actually not wearing underpants? Correct. Or are they wearing clothes over their underpants? No. If "we" were in the UK, would "you" be wearing other clothes? No. Or just underpants? No, but...

Re: [GalFisk] I'll be brief

PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:20 pm
by hominid
Is the "you" person naked? Is it possible to tell from looking at them that they're not wearing underpants?

"UK"=United Kingdom (just to be sure)?

Relevant what country they're in if they're not in the UK? Is a UK law relevant? UK history? UK geography? A cultural thing? A linguistic thing? Would it work in every part of the UK?

Re: [GalFisk] I'll be brief

PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:38 pm
by GalFisk
Is the "you" person naked? Yesish, FAIs it possible to tell from looking at them that they're not wearing underpants? Yes.

"UK"=United Kingdom (just to be sure)? Yes.

Relevant what country they're in if they're not in the UK? No. Is a UK law relevant? UK history? UK geography? A cultural thing? A linguistic thing? Cultural/linguistic I'd say. No to the others. Would it work in every part of the UK? I believe so.

Re: [GalFisk] I'll be brief

PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:43 pm
by hominid
Is "you" a person at all? Are they some other kind of animal? A domestic animal? Wild animal? Inanimate object? Adult? Male? Female?

Re: [GalFisk] I'll be brief

PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:45 pm
by GalFisk
Is "you" a person at all? No. Are they some other kind of animal? A domestic animal? This. Wild animal? Inanimate object? Adult? Male? Female? Adult Male, but irr.

Re: [GalFisk] I'll be brief

PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:05 pm
by Doriana
Domestic animal = pet? farm animal?

One specific animal? All animals of a certain kind, e.g. all dogs?

Re: [GalFisk] I'll be brief

PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 3:58 am
by GalFisk
Domestic animal = pet? This. farm animal?

One specific animal? Yes. All animals of a certain kind, e.g. all dogs?

Re: [GalFisk] I'll be brief

PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:41 am
by Earnest
pet? This. --> dog? cat? Bird? Horse? Others?
One specific animal? Yes --> did you refer to your own pet? Did someone refer to a specific pet? Or maybe to the statue of a pet? to a charachter of a story? a picture in a book? an image? a cartoon? a real pet?

Would underwear's be wore to cover the pet's nudities? To prevent the pet from doing their businesses in a specific place (e.g. in a building? inside house? elsewhere?)? Would the animal be forced to wear underpants? By his/her owner? During a specific event? Or is it a joke to say something like in UK everyone is so polite and formal that also pet would wear underpants? I don't know if it is quite bad word since I am not that expert in slang but...is "going commando" relevant here?

Is any pun involved? A pun with: knickers? pants? underclothes? undies? others?
Are kilts relevant at all?

Re: [GalFisk] I'll be brief

PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 8:58 am
by GalFisk
pet? This. --> dog? cat? Bird? Horse? Others? This.
One specific animal? Yes --> did you refer to your own pet? Assume yes (it's my stepdaughter's pet, but irr). Did someone refer to a specific pet? See prev. Or maybe to the statue of a pet? to a charachter of a story? a picture in a book? an image? a cartoon? No to all. a real pet? Yes.

Would underwear's be wore to cover the pet's nudities? To prevent the pet from doing their businesses in a specific place (e.g. in a building? inside house? elsewhere?)? Would the animal be forced to wear underpants? By his/her owner? During a specific event? No to all. Or is it a joke to say something like in UK everyone is so polite and formal that also pet would wear underpants? No, that's not it. I don't know if it is quite bad word since I am not that expert in slang but...is "going commando" relevant here? No.

Is any pun involved? I don't think it's a pun, but OTRT. A pun with: knickers? pants? underclothes? undies? others? This.
Are kilts relevant at all? No.

Re: [GalFisk] I'll be brief

PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 11:19 am
by Doriana
Is it a mammal? If so, bunny? mouse? rat? guinea pig? hamster? chinchilla?
Is it a reptile? If so, lizard? snake?
Is it a fish?
Something else? Spider? Tarantula? Scorpion?

Is the pet's name relevant?

Re: [GalFisk] I'll be brief

PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 11:21 am
by GalFisk
Is it a mammal? If so, bunny? mouse? rat? This - it's a pet rat. guinea pig? hamster? chinchilla?
Is it a reptile? If so, lizard? snake?
Is it a fish?
Something else? Spider? Tarantula? Scorpion?

Is the pet's name relevant? Yesish - a nickname.

Re: [GalFisk] I'll be brief

PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 11:32 am
by Doriana
Is the pet's nickname in any way related to underpants?

Re: [GalFisk] I'll be brief

PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 11:34 am
by GalFisk
Is the pet's nickname in any way related to underpants? It would be in the UK.

Re: [GalFisk] I'll be brief

PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 11:42 am
by Doriana
Relevant that underpants are often referred to as just pants in UK English? Is the rat's nickname Pants?

Re: [GalFisk] I'll be brief

PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 12:07 pm
by GalFisk
Relevant that underpants are often referred to as just pants in UK English? Is the rat's nickname Pants? No to both. OTRT.

Re: [GalFisk] I'll be brief

PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 12:07 pm
by Doriana
Another synonym for underpants relevant?

Re: [GalFisk] I'll be brief

PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 12:09 pm
by GalFisk
Another synonym for underpants relevant? Yes or yope, explore.

Re: [GalFisk] I'll be brief

PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 12:18 pm
by Doriana
A specific type of underpants relevant? Is the pet's nickname in a language other than English, but sounds like an English word for underpants?

Re: [GalFisk] I'll be brief

PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 12:20 pm
by GalFisk
A specific type of underpants relevant? Yes. Is the pet's nickname in a language other than English, Yes, but... but sounds like an English word for underpants? No, it'd need to be translated.

Re: [GalFisk] I'll be brief

PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 12:47 pm
by Doriana
Boxer shorts relevant? Boxer briefs? Briefs? Thongs? Long johns?

Re: [GalFisk] I'll be brief

PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 12:57 pm
by GalFisk
Boxer shorts relevant? Boxer briefs? Briefs? This. Thongs? Long johns?

Re: [GalFisk] I'll be brief

PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:58 pm
by Doriana
Relevant that "brief" means letter in some other European languages?

Re: [GalFisk] I'll be brief

PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:17 pm
by GalFisk
Relevant that "brief" means letter in some other European languages? No.
Hint: it may help to learn more about the rat.

Re: [GalFisk] I'll be brief

PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:19 pm
by Doriana
Fur color relevant? Fur markings? Age? Habits? Preferences? Disabilities?

Re: [GalFisk] I'll be brief

PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:29 pm
by GalFisk
Fur color relevant? Fur markings? This, no to the rest. Age? Habits? Preferences? Disabilities?

Re: [GalFisk] I'll be brief

PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:32 pm
by Doriana
Does the rat have fur markings that look like he's wearing briefs?

Re: [GalFisk] I'll be brief

PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:35 pm
by GalFisk
Does the rat have fur markings that look like he's wearing briefs? No, then he'd be wearing them in any language.

Re: [GalFisk] I'll be brief

PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:37 pm
by Doriana
Is the nickname based on the fur markings? Do the fur markings look like something that translates to both this thing and "briefs" in English?

Re: [GalFisk] I'll be brief

PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:42 pm
by GalFisk
Is the nickname based on the fur markings? Yes. Do the fur markings look like something that translates to both this thing and "briefs" in English? Not exactly, but explore. Also, English in general doesn't suffice.

Re: [GalFisk] I'll be brief

PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:45 pm
by Doriana
British English relevant in particular? Is a British English synonym for "briefs" relevant?

Re: [GalFisk] I'll be brief

PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:46 pm
by GalFisk
British English relevant in particular? Is a British English synonym for "briefs" relevant? Yes to both.

Re: [GalFisk] I'll be brief

PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:48 pm
by Doriana
Googlepedia allowed at this point?

Re: [GalFisk] I'll be brief

PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:51 pm
by GalFisk
Googlepedia allowed at this point? once you figure out the marking.

Re: [GalFisk] I'll be brief

PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:55 pm
by Doriana
Does the marking resemble an object? another animal? a geometric shape? a heart?

Re: [GalFisk] I'll be brief

PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:57 pm
by GalFisk
Does the marking resemble an object? another animal? a geometric shape? Niosh. a heart? No to the rest.

Re: [GalFisk] I'll be brief

PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 6:05 pm
by Doriana
Is the rat striped?

Does the marking resemble a symbol? a letter? a number?

Re: [GalFisk] I'll be brief

PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 6:06 pm
by GalFisk
Is the rat striped?

Does the marking resemble a symbol? a letter? This, no to the rest. a number?

Re: [GalFisk] I'll be brief

PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 6:11 pm
by Doriana
Is the letter a synonym for briefs in British English? Because of their shape (as in t-shirt)?

Re: [GalFisk] I'll be brief

PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 6:20 pm
by GalFisk
Is the letter a synonym for briefs in British English? Because of their shape (as in t-shirt)?

***SPOILER***
His actual name is "Tumvanten" (Thumb mitten). He has a marking in the shape of the letter Y on his stomach, so we call him "Y-mage" (Y-stomach). But if we were in the UK, he'd probably bee known as Y-front instead, which would in turn quickly mutate to Captain Underpants. Nice solve Doriana, and thanks for playing too, Hominid and Earnest.


From Wikipedia, about briefs:

In North America, "jockey shorts" or "jockeys" became an often used generic term for men's briefs. More recently, "tighty-whiteys" has become a commonly used slang term for such briefs.

In the UK, the term "jockeys" has not caught on and briefs are often referred to as "Y-fronts" or simply "pants". The term derives from the genericized trademark "Y-Front", property of Jockey International. It in turn derives from the inverted Y-shape formed by the seams at the front of the underpants.

In Australia, briefs are referred to as "jocks".

Re: [GalFisk] I'll be brief (I'll be SOLVED)

PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 6:25 pm
by Doriana
Good one! Hadn't heard of Y-fronts as a synonym for briefs before...

Re: [GalFisk] I'll be brief (I'll be SOLVED)

PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 6:28 pm
by GalFisk
Thanks. I heard about it in the (hilarious) book "Good Omens" by Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman.
I'll try to take a picture and post it when he's more docile. It's evening now, and the three nocturnal nutters are running and climbing around like caffeinated children - Tumvanten, Lucifer, and to some extent Yoda (the senior rat).

Re: [GalFisk] I'll be brief (I'll be SOLVED)

PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:56 am
by Earnest
Cool one!

Re: [GalFisk] I'll be brief (I'll be SOLVED)

PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:52 pm
by GalFisk
Here he is.
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