[klondike mary] Mt Mushmore

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[klondike mary] Mt Mushmore

Postby klondike mary » Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:56 pm

Let me state upfront, no one deserves to be judged for the 5 dumbest things he or she ever did or said.
That said, if there were a gigantic monument to monumentally dumb ideas, this gentleman would surely deserve a place there.
What was the nature of the idea?
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Postby AlbatrossLover » Fri Jul 10, 2020 4:11 pm

Gentleman = HAM?

Is this a famous person? Is the idea something a lot of people heard about?

Is the idea a proposed solution to a problem? A proposed law? Rule? A theory? Is it related to a specific field?

Did anyone other than him relevantly think it was a good idea?
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Postby trebor » Fri Jul 10, 2020 6:57 pm

Gutzon Borglum relevant?

Did the man ever act on his idea?
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Postby klondike mary » Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:45 am

Gentleman = HAM? Yes.

Is this a famous person?Yes! Is the idea something a lot of people heard about? Nooooo....

Is the idea a proposed solution to a problem? Yes. A proposed law? Yessish. Rule? A theory? Is it related to a specific field? Yopish.

Did anyone other than him relevantly think it was a good idea? Maybe a few, but not many.
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Postby klondike mary » Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:47 am

Gutzon Borglum relevant? Yes.

Did the man ever act on his idea? No, because.....
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Postby AlbatrossLover » Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:48 am

So Mt Rushmore is relevant? Does this happen before the monument is built? When it's being built? After?

Is the number 5 on the puzzle statement relevant? Does the proposal have to do with the number of presidents there? The specific presidents who are portrayed? Adding someone else to the sculpture?

Is the conflict with Native Americans about the place where the monument was built relevant?

(I'm not from the US and don't know like anything about the history of Mt Rushmore so sorry for the inevitable dumb questions.)
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Postby trebor » Sat Jul 11, 2020 6:48 pm

Hello, Albatrosslover. I don’t think we’ve met yet. I’m not from the US either, but there is a good chance I’m closer to it than you are. Welcome to the forum!

Is the Crazy Horse monument relevant? (I mean, the whole idea of blasting and destroying mountainsides and whatever to honour him and Teddy Roosevelt specifically seems pretty counter to what those two were about.)

Are any movies that use the monument relevant?

Does this have to do with what explosives were to be used? Or something else about clearing the rock?
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Postby klondike mary » Sat Jul 11, 2020 7:39 pm

So Mt Rushmore is relevant? Yope.Does this happen before the monument is built? When it's being built? After?[b]Before. It was begun c. 1927 and finished in 1941, to help you out a bit.[/b]Is the number 5 on the puzzle statement relevant? No. Does the proposal have to do with the number of presidents there? The specific presidents who are portrayed? Has to do with one of the presidents there. Adding someone else to the sculpture? No. Is the conflict with Native Americans about the place where the monument was built relevant? No.

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Postby klondike mary » Sat Jul 11, 2020 7:45 pm

Is the Crazy Horse monument relevant? No.I mean, the whole idea of blasting and destroying mountainsides and whatever to honour him and Teddy Roosevelt specifically seems pretty counter to what those two were about.) C.H. n.r., but you might follow up in the T.R.angle.
Are any movies that use the monument relevant? [b]No.[/b]Does this have to do with what explosives were to be used? Or something else about clearing the rock? No to both.
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Postby trebor » Sun Jul 12, 2020 7:08 pm

Roosevelt had quite a bit to do with the national parks system, didn't he? Anything to do with that? With a specific park? Was something else maybe going to be included with Teddy's bust?
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Postby klondike mary » Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:29 am

Roosevelt had quite a bit to do with the national parks system, didn't he? Anything to do with that? With a specific park? Was something else maybe going to be included with Teddy's bust?[b]No to all. However, Teddy's non-presidential activities are somewhat relevant.[/b]
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Postby GalFisk » Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:43 pm

Non-presidential: before presidency? After? During? Political activities? Business? Private life?
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Postby klondike mary » Mon Jul 13, 2020 5:58 pm

Non-presidential: before presidency? After? This During? Political activities? Business? Private life? Primarily this, though as an ex-president, he still had a good deal of political influence.
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Postby GalFisk » Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:08 am

Did Roosevelt relevantly: say something? Write something? His memoirs? Meet someone? Propose an action? Or law?
Would the dumb idea be part of Mt. Rushmore? If so, a visible part? Hidden? Something inside?
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Postby klondike mary » Tue Jul 14, 2020 4:01 pm

Did Roosevelt relevantly: say something? Write something? His memoirs? Meet someone? Propose an action?This, primarily. Or law?
Would the dumb idea be part of Mt. Rushmore?No. so, a visible part? Hidden? Something inside? So, no.
Probably his 'dumb idea' would have had no effect on whether TR was honored on Mt. Rushmore, even if enacted. (It wasn't)
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Postby JenBurdoo » Tue Jul 14, 2020 5:17 pm

Roosevelt's sporting activities (hunting, mainly) relevant? Policies towards Native Americans?
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Postby trebor » Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:40 pm

Just for clarification, was it Borglum who had the dumb idea here? Roosevelt?
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Postby klondike mary » Thu Jul 16, 2020 2:00 am

Roosevelt's sporting activities (hunting, mainly) This is relevant.relevant?Policies towards Native Americans?No.
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Postby klondike mary » Thu Jul 16, 2020 2:02 am

Just for clarification, was it Borglum who had the dumb idea here? Roosevelt?[b]Yes, T.R.[/b]
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Postby GalFisk » Thu Jul 16, 2020 2:34 am

Animals relevant? A specific species? Invasive species? Extinction? Weapons? Was the idea put into practice?
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Postby klondike mary » Thu Jul 16, 2020 2:09 pm

Animals relevant? A specific species? Yes and yes! Invasive species? Would have been.Extinction? Weapons? Was the idea put into practice?[ No to all.]
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Postby GalFisk » Thu Jul 16, 2020 4:05 pm

Birds? Mammals? Fish? Carnivores? Prey for hunters? Animals for food?
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Postby klondike mary » Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:34 pm

Birds? Mammals?This. Fish? Carnivores? Omnivore is probably best description. Not usually thought of as meat-eaters.Prey for hunters? Animals for food? Both are relevant.
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Postby GalFisk » Fri Jul 17, 2020 5:27 pm

Bears? Boars? Smaller than a breadbox?
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Postby trebor » Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:56 am

Does the dumb idea have to do with teddy bears?
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Postby klondike mary » Sat Jul 18, 2020 9:06 pm

Bears? Boars?no to both Smaller than a breadbox? Quite a bit larger.[/bDoes the dumb idea have to do with teddy bears?[b]No. Keep exploring.
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Postby trebor » Mon Jul 20, 2020 6:56 pm

Bison? Horse? Elephant? Giraffe? A member of the canine family? Feline? Bovine? Deer family? Is it an animal that’s native to the US? Canada? Mexico? South America? Europe? Africa? Asia? Oceania?

Did Roosevelt want to introduce it to the US? Was that the dumb idea?
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Postby klondike mary » Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:04 pm

Bison? Horse? Elephant? Giraffe? A member of the canine family? Feline? Bovine? Deer family? No to all. it an animal that’s native to the US? Canada? Mexico? South America? Europe? Africa? This, no to the others.Asia? Oceania?

Did Roosevelt want to introduce it to the US? Was that the dumb idea Yes. Actually, he had a logical reason for suggesting it, but still dumb.
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Postby GalFisk » Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:17 am

Does this animal hunt? Scavenge? Forage? Graze? Is it dangerous to humans? Livestock? Pets? Does it have claws? Is it known for intelligence? Strength? Speed? Agility? Stealth? Flocking?
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Postby trebor » Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:46 am

Are they rhinos? Hippos?

Was there a specific state? region of the country? he wanted to introduce the animal to?
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Postby klondike mary » Tue Jul 21, 2020 7:44 pm

Does this animal hunt? Scavenge? Forage? Graze?Mostly this.Is it dangerous to humans? Livestock? Pets? Could be.[b]Does it have claws? Is it known for intelligence? Strength? Speed? Agility? Stealth?[b]This, no or n.r. to everything else.Flocking?
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Postby klondike mary » Tue Jul 21, 2020 7:59 pm

Are they rhinos? Hippos? [b]This[/b]
Was there a specific state? region of the country? he wanted to introduce the animal to [b]Yes, the South.[/b

************SPOILER******************8
The backstory: Pellegra was endemic in the American South in the early years of the 20th century. It was theorized by many (including TR.,) that it was caused by poverty and poor diet, and they weren't wrong. Roosevelt proposed to introduce hippos into the bayous of Louisiana, so that the locals could hunt them and have a source of protein in their diet. With hindsight, we can see that this would case more problems than it would solve. Good Lord, nutria and alligators aren't enough?

It wasn't until the later teens that a Dr. Joseph Godlwater did some experiments with convicts (Caucasian cons only, as the rash showed up better on white skin) that it was discovered just what vitamins were lacking, niacin and tryptophan.

Congrats, Dr. Trebor!
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Postby trebor » Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:43 am

What an...unfortunate idea.
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