[Doriana] Where do they all come from?

[Doriana]

Many babies! And one more!

[GalFisk]

Babies: human? Animal? Dolls? Lovers? People being immature? Is one more also a baby? If so, the same kind as the many? Do the many babies belong to one person?

[Doriana]

Babies: human? This Animal? Dolls? Lovers? People being immature? Is one more also a baby? Yes If so, the same kind as the many? Insofar that they're all human, yes Do the many babies belong to one person? No

[GalFisk]

Is someone wondering where the many babies ome from? Where the one more does? Are the many babies at the same place? If so, at the same time? Is there an emergency? Are the babies with their parents? Is a meternity ward relevant? Childcare relevant?

[Doriana]

Is someone wondering where the many babies ome from? No Where the one more does? No Are the many babies at the same place? Some of them were If so, at the same time? No Is there an emergency? No Are the babies with their parents? At some point, they relevantly were Is a meternity ward relevant? Childcare relevant? No to rest

[GalFisk]

Are the many babies present at the time of the puzzle statement? Is the statement spoken? Thought? Written? Neither? Is "at the time of the puzzle statement" a valid thing to say? Are there photos of babies? Is the one more: late? Misplaced? Different? singled out? Last?

[Doriana]

Are the many babies present at the time of the puzzle statement? No, tiny ish Is the statement spoken? Thought? This Written? Neither? Is "at the time of the puzzle statement" a valid thing to say? Yes Are there photos of babies? No Is the one more: late? in a sense, yes Misplaced? Different? Also yes, in a sense singled out? Yope Last? Also yes, in a sense

[GalFisk]

Are the babies in a list? Are their names relevant? Geneaology relevant? The age before birth control?

[Doriana]

Are the babies in a list? Yesish Are their names relevant? Geneaology relevant? The age before birth control? No to rest

[GalFisk]

Yesish list: a book? A text? A spreadsheet? Relevant when they were born? Was the last baby separated from the others in time? Space? Font? Is the person thinking the puzzle statement watching something? Reading something? Doing research? Working? Having fun? Making something up?

[Doriana]

Yesish list: a book? A text? This(ish) A spreadsheet? Probably also this Relevant when they were born? Only in relation to each other Was the last baby separated from the others in time? Yes Space? Yes, but potential FA Font? FA Is the person thinking the puzzle statement watching something? Reading something? This Doing research? And this Working? And this, and that person is me Having fun? Making something up?

[GalFisk]

Were they born within the same: second? Minute? Hour? Day? Week? Month? Year? Decade? On the same date in different years? The same month in different years? The same weekday? Relevant how old they are now? Records relevant? Handwritten texts? Is information from different sources being assembled?

[markobr]

Genealogy relevant? Birth registers?

Does "one more" refer to one more baby being born? One more to be in a certain place? To have a certain feature? To be seen by a certain person? Otherwise noticed by a certain person? Share the fate of the other babies?

[Doriana]

Were they born within the same: second? Minute? Hour? Day? Week? Month? Year? This for the many babies Decade? And this for the one more On the same date in different years? The same month in different years? The same weekday? No to all Relevant how old they are now? Somewhat, they're ~3 years old now Records relevant? Handwritten texts? No Is information from different sources being assembled? Irrel

Genealogy relevant? Birth registers? No to both

Does "one more" refer to one more baby being born? Yes One more to be in a certain place? To have a certain feature? To be seen by a certain person? No to these Otherwise noticed by a certain person? Yope Share the fate of the other babies? No

RECAP before I go to bed and so that others can join more easily

I was reading a text at work. The text referred to many (human) babies, who were all born in the same year and who probably also all appear in a spreadsheet. There is one more relevant (human) baby that's different from the other babies and relevantly separated from the others in time.

[GalFisk]

Does the one more baby also appear in the spreadsheet? Was the one more baby born before the others? After? Was it mistakenly included in the data set? Deliberately included? Is it a sibling to any of the other babies? Relevant? Normal age interval between subsequent babies from the same mother relevant?

[Doriana]

Does the one more baby also appear in the spreadsheet? No Was the one more baby born before the others? After? This Was it mistakenly included in the data set? No Deliberately included? No Is it a sibling to any of the other babies? No Relevant? Not really Normal age interval between subsequent babies from the same mother relevant? No

[Earnest]

Can the separate baby be considered an outlier? Is there some symbolic representation of the babies relevantly? E.g. a scatter plot (and the separate baby was an outlier)? If so, relevant what was measured? Relevant what was on x and y axis?

Relevant the names of the babies? Did they relevantly have some condition? Is the age the relevant factor that distinguishes the "+1" baby from the others? If so, was he/she considered an exception?

To be sure, babies H and Mixed (female and male)? Can we assume equal number of females and males (e.g. randomized trial)? So the babies were all born in 2017 except for one who was born later right? Relevant when exactly? 2018?2019?2020? Was he born already? Relevant how many babies were in the spreadsheet? More than 10? Did they (all babies + 1) have something in common? One parent? Mother? Father? A disease? A medicine prescribed to them? They were the sons and daughters of a relevant group of people (e.g. the second generation after Chernobyl disaster who turned out to be healthy? the sons and daughters of people having a relevant disease/condition?)?

who probably also all appear in a spreadsheet --> relevant spreadsheet of: an hospital (the same?)? Of a research lab? Of registry office? orphanage? Police? University? Other?

Does the one more baby also appear in the spreadsheet? No --> does he/ she appear in another spreadsheet? Should he/she be included in the spreadsheet? Was he mistakenly not included?

[Doriana]

Can the separate baby be considered an outlier? Not in a statistical sense, and potential FA Is there some symbolic representation of the babies relevantly? E.g. a scatter plot (and the separate baby was an outlier)? No If so, relevant what was measured? Relevant what was on x and y axis?

Relevant the names of the babies? No Did they relevantly have some condition? No Is the age the relevant factor that distinguishes the "+1" baby from the others? Age is not the only factor that sets the extra baby apart If so, was he/she considered an exception? No

To be sure, babies H and Mixed (female and male)? Yes Can we assume equal number of females and males (e.g. randomized trial)? Yes, but irrel So the babies were all born in 2017 except for one who was born later right? Yes Relevant when exactly? 2018?2019?2020? Not really relevant, but 2019 Was he born already? Yes Relevant how many babies were in the spreadsheet? Not really More than 10? Hundreds of babies! Did they (all babies + 1) have something in common? The ones in the text/spreadsheet, yes, the extra one, no One parent? Mother? Father? A disease? A medicine prescribed to them? They were the sons and daughters of a relevant group of people (e.g. the second generation after Chernobyl disaster who turned out to be healthy? the sons and daughters of people having a relevant disease/condition?)? No to all

who probably also all appear in a spreadsheet --> relevant spreadsheet of: an hospital (the same?)? Of a research lab? This(ish) Of registry office? orphanage? Police? University? and this Other?

Does the one more baby also appear in the spreadsheet? No --> does he/ she appear in another spreadsheet? Should he/she be included in the spreadsheet? Was he mistakenly not included? No to all

[Earnest]

Maybe you missed these ones:

Does the one more baby also appear in the spreadsheet? No --> does he/ she appear in another spreadsheet? Should he/she be included in the spreadsheet? Was he mistakenly not included?

New questions:

was the spreadsheet where the hundreds of babies were, updated? If so, were the babies followed from their birth? guess that if they were in a Uni/lab spreadsheet, the researchers were interested on something about the babies right? Were the babies randomly selected? Were researchers interested in a relevant phase of their birth? Were the data about them collected: as soon as the babies were born? after a year or two from their birth? when something happened? spermatozoon relevant? assisted fertilization? IVF? Planned parenthood?

If the spreadsheet was updated: were new babies added? If so, in 2017? Later? Or the same babies were kept and new observations on them noted/updated in the spreadsheet?

Did they (all babies + 1) have something in common? The ones in the text/spreadsheet, yes, the extra one, no --> was the extra one someone you knew? Did they (all but the one) share the age and the fact of having been selected for an experiment? Is medicine/health care involved here? If not, did they share something relevantly having the same numerical value on the spreadsheet? Something measurable? (e.g. weight? the time at which they were born?) something concerning the way they born? Their parents? genetic? Technology? Exposure to something? The place of birth?

[Doriana]

Maybe you missed these ones: Edited the original reply, sorry!

Does the one more baby also appear in the spreadsheet? No --> does he/ she appear in another spreadsheet? Should he/she be included in the spreadsheet? Was he mistakenly not included? No to all

New questions:

was the spreadsheet where the hundreds of babies were, updated? Irrel If so, were the babies followed from their birth? No guess that if they were in a Uni/lab spreadsheet, the researchers were interested on something about the babies right? Yes Were the babies randomly selected? They were selected from a database based on certain criteria, no details relevant Were researchers interested in a relevant phase of their birth? No Were the data about them collected: as soon as the babies were born? after a year or two from their birth? When they were around a year old - not really relevant though when something happened? spermatozoon relevant? assisted fertilization? IVF? Planned parenthood? No to all

If the spreadsheet was updated: were new babies added? If so, in 2017? Later? Or the same babies were kept and new observations on them noted/updated in the spreadsheet? Irrel to all

Did they (all babies + 1) have something in common? The ones in the text/spreadsheet, yes, the extra one, no --> was the extra one someone you knew? Yes Did they (all but the one) share the age and the fact of having been selected for an experiment? Yes Is medicine/health care involved here? No If not, did they share something relevantly having the same numerical value on the spreadsheet? Something measurable? (e.g. weight? the time at which they were born?) something concerning the way they born? Their parents? genetic? Technology? Exposure to something? The place of birth? No/irrel to all, the only relevant characteristic that they share is their participation in the experiment

[Earnest]

the only relevant characteristic that they share is their participation in the experiment --> so eligibility criteria irrelevant right?

Would the one more be eligible for the experiment? Is the someone you know at work with you when you were reading about the babies? Did he cry? If he was not, did you think of him? Relevant the reason why?
Were the babies physically in a lab relevantly? Did researchers have troubles dealing with babies? (e.g. calming them down?...) Did you have troubles dealing with the baby you knew?

[Doriana]

the only relevant characteristic that they share is their participation in the experiment --> so eligibility criteria irrelevant right? Correct

Would the one more be eligible for the experiment? If the experiment was still running, yes Is the someone you know at work with you when you were reading about the babies? No Did he cry? n/a If he was not, did you think of him? Yes Relevant the reason why? Yes
Were the babies physically in a lab relevantly? At some point before the puzzle statement, yes Did researchers have troubles dealing with babies? (e.g. calming them down?...) Did you have troubles dealing with the baby you knew? No to these

[GalFisk]

Did the hundreds of babies remind you of a baby you know? Is there more to the connection than the fact that the extra baby would've been eligible, had the experiment still been running? Wa the experiment related to: medicine? Psychology? Parenting? Sociology? Childbirth? Nutrition? Behavior? Heredity? Genetics? Cognition? Were the babies at the lab at a certain time? Certain age?

[Doriana]

Did the hundreds of babies remind you of a baby you know? No Is there more to the connection than the fact that the extra baby would've been eligible, had the experiment still been running? Yes Wa the experiment related to: medicine? Psychology? This Parenting? Sociology? Childbirth? Nutrition? Behavior? Heredity? Genetics? Cognition? and this Were the babies at the lab at a certain time? Certain age? This, but irrel

[Earnest]

Maybe something related to a behavior that the baby you know have (and the other babies did not or viceversa)? Is told to have?

If so, related to: interaction with other babies? Interaction with toys? Interaction with food/relevant objects/animals/other human beings? first word? first walk? crawling relevant? crying? items related to babies relevant? pacifier? Preference of the baby?

Did you, alone, repeat the experiment with the baby you know (if so, did you obtain different results than the ones described in the paper?)? Would like to repeat it?

Was the part about the babies in the paper you we're reading just describing the experiment? Give a relevant attribute to the babies? Is there a relevant part that made you think about the baby you know?

[Doriana]

Maybe something related to a behavior that the baby you know have (and the other babies did not or viceversa)? Is told to have? No, OTWT

If so, related to: interaction with other babies? Interaction with toys? Interaction with food/relevant objects/animals/other human beings? first word? first walk? crawling relevant? crying? items related to babies relevant? pacifier? Preference of the baby? Irrel to all

Did you, alone, repeat the experiment with the baby you know (if so, did you obtain different results than the ones described in the paper?)? No Would like to repeat it? Irrel

Was the part about the babies in the paper you we're reading just describing the experiment? Give a relevant attribute to the babies? Irrel to these Is there a relevant part that made you think about the baby you know? Yes

[GalFisk]

Are the findings of the experiment relevant? If so, are those findings relevant to the baby you know? Were the babies a randomised sample? Babies with something relevant in common, except for age? Did the experiment try to affect them somehow? Only check how they were affected by something?

[Doriana]

Are the findings of the experiment relevant? No If so, are those findings relevant to the baby you know? Were the babies a randomised sample? Babies with something relevant in common, except for age? Did the experiment try to affect them somehow? Only check how they were affected by something? Irrel to all

[Earnest]

So a part that made you think about the baby you know: a part highlighted? A graph? A drawing? Maybe something that the baby you know painted on the working paper? A writing? A writing that differed from other written parts? Abstract relevant? Something that dirtied the paper? A spot?
A reference to a place? A reference to a name? To an address? A date? An event?

[Doriana]

So a part that made you think about the baby you know: a part highlighted? A graph? A drawing? Maybe something that the baby you know painted on the working paper? No to these A writing? Yes, it was a written part of the paper A writing that differed from other written parts? Yes, to some extent Abstract relevant? Something that dirtied the paper? A spot? No to these
A reference to a place? A reference to a name? Not "a reference to a name", but OTRT To an address? A date? An event?

[GalFisk]

An actual name? Does the list include names? Relevant? Dis you know anything about the kids in the list, except what was written there?

[Doriana]

An actual name? Yes Does the list include names? Relevant? Irrel Dis you know anything about the kids in the list, except what was written there? No

[GalFisk]

Did you see the name of the baby you know in the text? Somethign that reminded you of the name? Somethignt hat sounded like the name? Relevant which info was present in the text? If so: weight? Age? Date of birth? Test scores? Experiments done?

[Doriana]

Did you see the name of the baby you know in the text? No, but... Somethign that reminded you of the name? Yope Somethignt hat sounded like the name? No Relevant which info was present in the text? If so: weight? Age? Date of birth? Test scores? Experiments done? Irrel to all and OTWT

[GalFisk]

Does the baby you know have a name when you're reminded of it? Is it born? Is it male? Relevant?

[Doriana]

Does the baby you know have a name when you're reminded of it? Yes Is it born? Yes Is it male? No Relevant? No

[Earnest]

A reference to a place? A reference to a name? Not "a reference to a name", but OTRT --> a name? a surname? a last name? a nickname? a reference at all? a mistake in the writing?

Was the writing in quotes? in a different font? bold? Was it: a reference? a result of the study? a description? a reminder? a name? a signature of the authors? are punctuation marks relevant?

Is the link with the baby something about the baby herself directly? e.g. the name of the baby? the age? the name with which the parent call her? the way in which she call someone/something? or something dealing with her indirectly? e.g. something that happened when she was born? an event that reminds you about her? your relationship with her? the job of her parents?

[Doriana]

A reference to a place? A reference to a name? Not "a reference to a name", but OTRT --> a name? a surname? a last name? Two full names a nickname? a reference at all? a mistake in the writing?

Was the writing in quotes? No in a different font? bold? Irrel to these Was it: a reference? a result of the study? a description? a reminder? a name? Two names, see above a signature of the authors? are punctuation marks relevant? No to rest

Is the link with the baby something about the baby herself directly? Yes e.g. the name of the baby? Noish the age? the name with which the parent call her? the way in which she call someone/something? or something dealing with her indirectly? e.g. something that happened when she was born? an event that reminds you about her? No to these your relationship with her? Noish the job of her parents? This is relevant

[Earnest]

Two full names --> were the names in the paper (names of babies? relevant?) the same name as the parents of the baby you knew? names = a female name and a male name? or maybe the possible names that the would be baby would have had in case she was born as a male or a female?

Relevant to determine the two specific names?

the job of her parents? This is relevant --> health care? business? entertainment? research? uni? science? are the parents the authors of the paper?

[Doriana]

Two full names --> were the names in the paper (names of babies? relevant?) the same name as the parents of the baby you knew? names = a female name and a male name? or maybe the possible names that the would be baby would have had in case she was born as a male or a female?

Relevant to determine the two specific names?

the job of her parents? This is relevant --> health care? business? entertainment? research? uni? science? are the parents the authors of the paper? YES

********SPOILER********

A former colleague of mine and her boyfriend have been involved with a project called ManyBabies, the aim of which is to, well, run the same experiment with as many babies as possible across multiple labs and countries.

They also welcomed their first child half a year ago. So when I read an abstract authored by the two of them, I thought that they have added one more baby - their own daughter - to the hundreds of kids mentioned in the study.


Thanks for playing, everyone! As announced in the chat room, this will be my last puzzle for a while. I’ll be back as Dr Doriana, if all goes as planned

[Balin]

Best wishes with the Ph.D., Doriana! Hope to see you back with some letters after your name!

[Earnest]

Best of luck!!!