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by **CoffeeBean** » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:25 pm

A man became famous for doing a specific action less than 20 times in his whole life. Each of these times he was told to do it. He was asked periodically throughout his life to repeat the action but he refused. One of the last times he did it, he combined that action with another one that he had never been known to do before. Who was he?

This one may require some online help when we get very close to the end, but I suspect that among the participants someone will know who he is. This is a true story.

by **Doriana** » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:56 pm

Is the man still alive? If not, did he live in the [LTPF list of centuries]?

Was it always the same person who told him to perform the action? Was it a person in the first place? a group of people? Could he have performed the action without being told to do so?

Have other people performed the same action? If so, did they also become famous?

Did other people see the man perform the action? If so, live? a recording? Did people see the results of the man having performed the action?

Art relevant? Politics? Sports? Religion?

by **CoffeeBean** » Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:11 pm

Is the man still alive? If not, did he live in the [LTPF list of centuries]? He was born in the 20th century and passed away in 2014

Was it always the same person who told him to perform the action? No Was it a person in the first place? a group of people? Probably both, at certain times
Could he have performed the action without being told to do so? Yes

Have other people performed the same action? If so, did they also become famous? There have not been very many who have done the exact same thing. There is a very famous person who is alive now who has said that he had a very similar experience to the person who is the subject of this puzzle. The puzzle's title is a back-door hint based on this modern day person.

Did other people see the man perform the action? Yes If so, live? Some did, but...a recording? ...many, many more people saw it in this form. Did people see the results of the man having performed the action? Only a few people did

Art relevant? This one is closest Politics? Sports? Religion? None of these

by **hominid** » Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:29 pm

Is he a musician? actor? filmmaker?

by **AlbatrossLover** » Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:17 pm

Did the man have an unique condition that allowed him to do the actions? Physical characteristics relevant? Would it be possible for most people to learn to do what he did?

Did he perform the action at regular intervals? During specific events? Did he/other people know when he was going to do it days in advance? Weeks? Months? Years?

by **JenBurdoo** » Wed Jul 22, 2020 11:22 pm

Was he the first to do something? Did he do something in a specific place? While performing some other relevant action? Was it possible for him to do it when asked later in his life?

Was he in the military? Other government-related position?

by **GalFisk** » Wed Jul 22, 2020 11:34 pm

Magic tricks relevant? Stunts? Acrobacy? Math? Mentalism? Something done with the body? Mind? Props? Tools? Something supernatural?

by **Earnest** » Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:01 am

Is religion relevant?

by **Balin** » Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:03 pm

Did he set a world record?

by **CoffeeBean** » Thu Jul 23, 2020 3:58 pm

Is he a musician? actor? filmmaker? He is an actor
Did the man have an unique condition Yes, he did that allowed him to do the actions? His condition was not directly related to the action he performed, but is indirectly connected
Physical characteristics relevant? Only indirectly Would it be possible for most people to learn to do what he did? Yes, certainly

Did he perform the action at regular intervals? No During specific events? Yes Did he/other people know when he was going to do it days in advance? Weeks? Months? Years? The exact time frame is not that important to know. Safe to assume that he and several other people planned for him to do this action in the time frame of hours to days ahead of time

Was he the first to do something? He was not the first to do this type of thing, but the specific thing he did was unique
Did he do something in a specific place? No, in many places While performing some other relevant action? Yes, there was always other relevant action when he did the specific thing Was it possible for him to do it when asked later in his life? No

Was he in the military? Other government-related position? No to both

Magic tricks relevant? Stunts? This - ish Acrobacy? Math? Mentalism? Something done with the body? Yes, and with... Mind? Props? ...this. Tools? No Something supernatural? No

Is religion relevant? No

Did he set a world record? No

by **Doriana** » Thu Jul 23, 2020 4:15 pm

Was he a movie actor? TV actor? stage actor?

Did he perform the action while acting? Can the action be seen in the movies / TV series he was in? Were the people who asked him to perform the action directors?

by **CoffeeBean** » Thu Jul 23, 2020 4:22 pm

Was he a movie actor? TV actor? stage actor? Movie and TV

Did he perform the action while acting? Yes Can the action be seen in the movies / TV series he was in? In the movies he was in, yes Were the people who asked him to perform the action directors? Most of the time early in his career, yes

by **GalFisk** » Thu Jul 23, 2020 6:31 pm

Was doing the thing dangerous? Difficult? Sword swaallowing? Fire eating/breathing?

by **CoffeeBean** » Thu Jul 23, 2020 6:54 pm

Was doing the thing dangerous? Difficult? <-- This
Sword swallowing? Fire eating/breathing? No to these

by **GalFisk** » Thu Jul 23, 2020 7:06 pm

Did it require strength? Dexterity? Coordination? Speed? Balance? Fine motor control? Daring? Wits? Training? Trick shooting relevant? Juggling?

by **CoffeeBean** » Thu Jul 23, 2020 7:08 pm

Did it require strength? Dexterity? Partly this Coordination? Speed? Balance? Fine motor control? Daring? Partly this Wits? Training?
Trick shooting relevant? Juggling? No to these

by **GalFisk** » Thu Jul 23, 2020 7:11 pm

Does it involve heights? Is one prop needed? Two? Three? More? If more than one, are the props identical? Is the prop handheld? Is there any danger at all involved? Is this something one can try and fail?

by **CoffeeBean** » Thu Jul 23, 2020 7:15 pm

Does it involve heights? No Is one prop needed? Two? Three? More? Just one
If more than one, are the props identical?
Is the prop handheld? No Is there any danger at all involved? Not "danger" but OTRT Is this something one can try and fail? Not exactly "fail", but one could try this and opt not to do it. The more current example of this helps understand why this is the case.

by **GalFisk** » Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:09 pm

Is the prop a piece of clothing? Is it bigger than a breadbox? Is it an everyday item? An item designed specifically for this purpose? Will doing this thing change the prop? Consume it? Destroy it? Is this thing done using one hand? Both? Other limbs? Other parts of the body? Is the prop a liquid?

by **CoffeeBean** » Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:15 pm

Is the prop a piece of clothing? No Is it bigger than a breadbox? No
Is it an everyday item? No An item designed specifically for this purpose? Yes
Will doing this thing change the prop? Consume it? Destroy it? No to all
Is this thing done using one hand? Both? Other limbs? Other parts of the body? This
Is the prop a liquid? No

by **GalFisk** » Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:22 pm

His head? Torso? Back? Butt? Neck? Voice? Breath? Senses? Teeth? Does it make a sound? Is the prop an instrument? If so, is he playing it in an unusual way?

by **CoffeeBean** » Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:27 pm

His head? Torso? Back? Butt? Funny, but no Neck? Voice? Breath? Senses? Teeth? This, the prop is related to his teeth
Does it make a sound? No Is the prop an instrument? If so, is he playing it in an unusual way? No to both

by **AlbatrossLover** » Fri Jul 24, 2020 1:45 am

Is the prop dentures? A gold tooth? Some sort of mouth protection? (Fake) food?

by **GalFisk** » Fri Jul 24, 2020 11:15 am

Does he bite the prop? Chew it? Eat it? Taste it? Blow through it? Breathe through it? Is he supporting a great weight with his teeth? Pulling something?

by **Earnest** » Fri Jul 24, 2020 1:26 pm

Boxing relevant? Guinness world record involved? Astronauts? Evil Knievel?
Smiling relevant?

This, the prop is related to his teeth --> to protect the teeth? To mask them? To hide them? To make them look: terrifying? (e.g. vampire) toothless? dirty? made of a certain material?

If the prop is to protect the teeth: is it to protect him after a fall? After being hit? To fortify the teeth? to protect the teeth from high temperatures? Animals? to prevent that he bites himself after a knockback?

by **CoffeeBean** » Fri Jul 24, 2020 2:24 pm

Is the prop dentures? Not in the usual sense but OTRT A gold tooth? Some sort of mouth protection? (Fake) food? No to these

Does he bite the prop? Chew it? Eat it? Taste it? Blow through it? Breathe through it? Is he supporting a great weight with his teeth? Pulling something?
No to all

Boxing relevant? Guinness world record involved? Astronauts? Evil Knievel? No to these
Smiling relevant? YES!

This, the prop is related to his teeth --> to protect the teeth? To mask them? To hide them? Yes, and...To make them look: terrifying? ...THIS (e.g. vampire) No but explore toothless? No, much the opposite dirty? No made of a certain material? Partly, yes

If the prop is to protect the teeth: is it to protect him after a fall? After being hit? To fortify the teeth? to protect the teeth from high temperatures? Animals? to prevent that he bites himself after a knockback? None of these

by **Doriana** » Fri Jul 24, 2020 2:27 pm

Does the prop make it look as if he has more teeth than usual? bigger teeth? differently shaped teeth? teeth made of an unusual material?

by **CoffeeBean** » Fri Jul 24, 2020 2:44 pm

Does the prop make it look as if he has more teeth than usual? No, really the opposite bigger teeth? In a way, yes differently shaped teeth? For sure, yes! teeth made of an unusual material? Yes, this too

by **Doriana** » Fri Jul 24, 2020 3:22 pm

Hmm, when asked if the prop makes him look toothless, you said "No, much the opposite", but you said the same when I asked if it makes it look as if he has more teeth than usual... I'm confused. Could you clarify?

An unusual material: gold? steel? titanium? another metal? carbon fibre? wood? stone? glass? something organic?

Did the man have a normal, ordinary set of teeth without the prop? Or was there something unusual about his teeth to begin with?

When he used the prop in movies, did he always play the same character? Does the character relevantly do something with the teeth? If so, bite someone? something? rip something apart with his teeth?
Is the character a hero? a villain?

by **CoffeeBean** » Fri Jul 24, 2020 3:33 pm

Hmm, when asked if the prop makes him look toothless, you said "No, much the opposite", but you said the same when I asked if it makes it look as if he has more teeth than usual... I'm confused. Could you clarify? Sure - the prop makes the actor appear to have fewer teeth than an average person, possibly debatable if he has any "normal" teeth. But while it makes him appear to have no or few "normal" teeth, it makes him appear to obviously have very large teeth of some kind (see below)

An unusual material: gold? steel? titanium? another metal? Some kind of metal, yes carbon fibre? wood? stone? glass? something organic?

Did the man have a normal, ordinary set of teeth without the prop? Yes Or was there something unusual about his teeth to begin with? Not relevant

When he used the prop in movies, did he always play the same character? Yes (same with the modern day person who experienced the same issue) Does the character relevantly do something with the teeth? YES...If so, bite someone? something? rip something apart with his teeth? ...he does all of these things.
Is the character a hero? He's this, but only for a brief moment a villain? He is this in almost every appearance except for his final one where he combined his usual action with one that he hadn't been known to do before

by **GalFisk** » Fri Jul 24, 2020 3:53 pm

Do they make him look like a pirate? Old man? Animal? Cartoon character? The Mask? Is he still alive?

by **CoffeeBean** » Fri Jul 24, 2020 4:00 pm

Do they make him look like a pirate? Not the man who is the subject of the puzzle, but the modern person who experienced a similar situation is famous for portraying a pirate Old man? Animal? Cartoon character? The Mask? No to these
Is he still alive? No

by **Vagary** » Fri Jul 24, 2020 6:03 pm

So, I'm fairly certain you're talking about Richard Kiel, who played James Bond's villain Jaws.
Was he asked by people over the years to bite random objects?

by **CoffeeBean** » Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:14 pm

So, I'm fairly certain you're talking about Richard Kiel, who played James Bond's villain Jaws. Correct
Was he asked by people over the years to bite random objects? No, it's something simpler than this

by **CoffeeBean** » Tue Jul 28, 2020 8:46 pm

HINT: Neither Kiel or the modern person who had the same issue wanted to do what many people asked them to do when they were not in the midst of making a movie

by **AlbatrossLover** » Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:00 pm

Are people simply asking them to wear the fake teeth when they're not making movies?

by **CoffeeBean** » Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:23 pm

Are people simply asking them to wear the fake teeth when they're not making movies? This and do one other simple thing...

by **Doriana** » Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:53 pm

Do the people ask to take pictures of him? with him? with the fake teeth in?

by **CoffeeBean** » Wed Jul 29, 2020 3:05 pm

Do the people ask to take pictures of him? with him? with the fake teeth in? Yes to all of this, and people ask if the actors will do one simple thing for the photo...

by **Doriana** » Wed Jul 29, 2020 3:25 pm

Smile? Open their mouth?

by **CoffeeBean** » Wed Jul 29, 2020 3:40 pm

Smile? Open their mouth? Yes to both

** SPOILER **

Richard Kiel, famous for playing Jaws in two James Bond films, was known in the movies for having large metal teeth. he only had one spoken line in all of his appearances on screen in the Bond movies. When he appeared in public, at shows, etc. people wanted a photo of him wearing the metal teeth. Kiel said that the mouthpiece was so painful to wear that he only kept it in when required to film a scene, he didn't want to wear them unless he had to for the movies.

A more current example of this is Johnny Depp. The fake teeth pieces that he wore while playing Jack Sparrow were so uncomfortable that he wouldn't wear them unless it was required while making a movie.

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